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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: dfm on 25 January 2021, 19:24

Title: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: dfm on 25 January 2021, 19:24
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As per the title. Car has winter pack. Thanks
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: fredgroves on 25 January 2021, 19:54
Doesn't have the washers, suggests not.

Is it a UK car? In Ireland on a mk7 they didn't have xenon. Some Irish cars have been brought into Britain for resale.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: dfm on 25 January 2021, 19:59
Thanks Fred. It's an approved used from a dealer in England.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: Guzzle on 25 January 2021, 20:04
It does have the washers if you look closely.  :nerd:

I think they probably are bi-xenon, as far as I know the imported GTi's I've seen that don't have bi-xenons don't have the red stripe through. Bit like this

(https://i.postimg.cc/brTYP1fv/OJX2i0Q.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: fredgroves on 25 January 2021, 20:10
The only real certain way to tell is if you can see the build sticker in the boot and decode the build codes.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: wantmygti on 25 January 2021, 20:24
It does have the washers if you look closely.  :nerd:

I think they probably are bi-xenon, as far as I know the imported GTi's I've seen that don't have bi-xenons don't have the red stripe through. Bit like this

(https://i.postimg.cc/brTYP1fv/OJX2i0Q.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I’ll bow to your greater wisdom but they look like halogens to me and I can’t see any washers!
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: Watts on 25 January 2021, 21:10
There were some imported from Malta that didn't have zenons.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: Fabio Bignose on 25 January 2021, 21:52
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As per the title. Car has winter pack. Thanks

Yes, they are bi xenon
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: Rudedog on 25 January 2021, 21:58
Looks a bit odd... where is the indicator strip?

I can't see the washers.. they should be a rectangle just below the lights, are we saying that that large circle is the washer?
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: SRGTD on 25 January 2021, 22:29
Looks a bit odd... where is the indicator strip?

I can't see the washers.. they should be a rectangle just below the lights, are we saying that that large circle is the washer?

The circular cover is the towing hook cover.

The car in the picture that was posted by the OP in the first post for whatever reason isn’t showing now. That picture showed the front end of a mk7 Golf GTI with xenon headlamps with the ‘U’ shaped DRL’s, continuation of the red grille stripe into the headlamp units and the headlamp washer cover below the headlamps. The headlamps on that car were like this one;
(https://i.postimg.cc/cJH61FFm/A3-F5-FD78-5-F97-4205-A512-4-F2-D03694-D07.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The picture posted by @Guzzle in reply #3 in this discussion thread is a non UK spec mk7 GTI with halogen headlamps, no headlamp washers, and no red stripe through the headlamp unit.

Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: Carbon VW on 25 January 2021, 22:39
Doesn't have the washers, suggests not.

Is it a UK car? In Ireland on a mk7 they didn't have xenon. Some Irish cars have been brought into Britain for resale.
Not entirely true. They weren’t standard spec in Ireland but were an option, most owners here specced  them as I did.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: dfm on 25 January 2021, 22:54
Thank's everyone - very helpful. Better photo here which shows the rectangles below the headlights. It doesn't state bi xenons on the VW advert so I'm think they may have missed it based on what you guys are saying.

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Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: fredgroves on 25 January 2021, 22:54
Yes, sorry I meant as standard.

Motorpoint imported a shed load of the Irish base spec ones into England though and flogged them off cheap.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: fredgroves on 25 January 2021, 22:55
Yes that newer photo you can see the washers clearly.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: Sootchucker on 26 January 2021, 08:44
The headlights in that photo are 100% Halogen, not Bi-Xenon. Heres some images from the VW self training manual on the MK7.

Easy way to tell is that Bi-Xenons are not legally allowed to be installed into an open reflector, they must always be contained inside a lens that can accurately focus the beam to avoid blinding. I also believe, that if the car was ordered with winter pack, then even Halogen lights had headlight washers (mandatory on Bi-Xenon). I also understand the UK was one of the very few countries where the importer (VW UK in this case), never offered the option of lesser lights on the performance models, and all UK sourced cars were always Bi-Xenon, but other countries (Ireland, Cyprus etc. that also used RHD), were always a pricey option.


HALOGEN
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50877155652_a5aea6b059.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kvQHQQ)


BI-XENON
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50877155677_394ea749ce.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kvQHRg)
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: dfm on 26 January 2021, 08:49
Thanks for the information. Might have to compromise on the headlights then  :cry:
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: Sootchucker on 26 January 2021, 08:51
Ah not so fast... having re-read the thread, the car I was talking about was the white one on Page 1 - the only image that' showing. I never saw your original image, so if it's like the one at the bottom of page 1 posted by SRGTD, then yes, those are Bi-Xenon as you can see from the above graphics.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: golfdave on 26 January 2021, 08:57
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As per the title. Car has winter pack. Thanks

Standard spec GTI UK xenon headlights with single LED "U" DRLs, with the washer covers visible on the bumper.....halogens NEVER get the LED "U" DRLs....thats the giveaway.
Title: Re: Are these lights bi xenon?
Post by: dfm on 26 January 2021, 12:43
Cheers. Not sure why the images I've posted are playing up. They are hosted on my Google photos.