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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: whogives on 16 October 2020, 15:27
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Hi, I'm hoping someone here will be able to point me in the right direction. I have a 2017 GTI Mk7.5 (ACC radar Behind front badge) I've upgraded my intercooler, put the car back together now getting this message. I've spoken to VW something to do with alignment want £300. Has anyone else had this issue or know of a garage (West Midlands) who could look at this.
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Unsure in terms of re-calibrating if that's definitely required but Midland VW in Cannock would be my preferred place to take it.
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Apparently if the front bumper has been removed the ACC radar needs "re-calibrating".
I was going to have the scuffs on the underside of the bumper lip sorted out until I found this out and just thought sod it I'm not paying that.
Seeing as you have got that message it looks like a trip to get it sorted and wallet emptying one too unless there is a workaround.
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Front bumper removing? I get that on the mk7 but on a mk7.5?
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Front bumper removing? I get that on the mk7 but on a mk7.5?
Exactly - I thought the whole reason for putting the sensor behind the badge was that it stayed attached to front cross-member which was independent of front bumper.
On the old set-up, I had a malfunctioning unit and it was a £650 job to realign if not under warranty. You had to do full wheel alignment first at a £400 cost and then £250 for the sensor itself, afterwards.
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Yup I was told by 2 VW body shops that it would need re-calibrating if the front bumper was removed.
It could still be a bs money grab but both were adamant even though my local independent body shop reckoned it mostly likely would be ok as it is only attached to the front cross member but couldn't be 100% certain.
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What a load of tosh. When I hit the pheasant in my previous car it totally demolished the hanging bracket the radar sensor sat on. Got it all repaired which meant a new front cross member and then dealer just re attached the sensor. It never needed recalibrated and even when the sensor was slightly lose in its holder all the dealer did was put a bit of felt behind and then clipped it back in. Worked perfectly and at no point was recalibrated.
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That's why I said it could be a bs money grab but I wasn't prepared to take the risk just for a few scrapes on the underside on the bumper.
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If the car detects a change it'll throw the fault code.
Had that on my 66 GTD.
If you're lucky and get a sensor in close enough to original position it may be OK and not throw a FC.
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I had this same message around a year ago on my mk7 even though I hadn’t removed anything.
I read the controller with VCDS,the fault read,power supply intermittent or words to that effect.
I cleared the fault and it’s never returned.
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I cleared the fault and it’s never returned.
This like most errors is worth just trying first. Always a good chance it’s just thrown it at a particular test point and may be ok.
If it does return then you know it’s a definite issue.
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Disconnect the battery for 10-15 minutes, reconnect and the dash will light up with warning lights for a short time. Ignore these and go for a five mile plus drive. Then park up and turn off for another 10-15, on restart the ACC and collision protection should be the only errors you see, go for another five mile drive and it should clear.
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I had this same message around a year ago on my mk7 even though I hadn’t removed anything.
I read the controller with VCDS,the fault read,power supply intermittent or words to that effect.
I cleared the fault and it’s never returned.
Thanks for the quick replies :) I've also seen on the net that VCDS is worth trying. I'm just trying to find a garage (Independent) who has it.
If I'm correct in thinking on the MK7 the radar was in the bottom grille, so wasn't effected when removing the bumper.
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Disconnect the battery for 10-15 minutes, reconnect and the dash will light up with warning lights for a short time. Ignore these and go for a five mile plus drive. Then park up and turn off for another 10-15, on restart the ACC and collision protection should be the only errors you see, go for another five mile drive and it should clear.
Well I'll try anything, thanks for the input :)
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If your anywhere near Airdrie I’ll do it foc.
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If your anywhere near Airdrie I’ll do it foc.
Unfortunately not ... I'm a Birmingham boy (For my sin's) But just like to point out I'm not in the lock Down area :sick: :sick: ...LOL
But Thanks :smiley:
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Not sure whether Carista or OBD2 could clear this fault, but may be worth a lower cost try, if you can’t get help with VCDS. If either of those fails to clear the fault, you could still do quite a few useful mods!
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Not sure whether Carista or OBD2 could clear this fault, but may be worth a lower cost try, if you can’t get help with VCDS. If either of those fails to clear the fault, you could still do quite a few useful mods!
Yer I've got OBD11, but not able to clear fault. I've also got my first MOT due next month, so not sure if it will fail, due to the faults on the dash ??
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Yer I've got OBD11, but not able to clear fault. I've also got my first MOT due next month, so not sure if it will fail, due to the faults on the dash ??
Unfortunately dash warning lights are an MOT failure now.
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What a load of tosh. When I hit the pheasant in my previous car it totally demolished the hanging bracket the radar sensor sat on. Got it all repaired which meant a new front cross member and then dealer just re attached the sensor. It never needed recalibrated and even when the sensor was slightly lose in its holder all the dealer did was put a bit of felt behind and then clipped it back in. Worked perfectly and at no point was recalibrated.
I similarly hit some wildlife (muntjac deer) and VW replaced the lower grill and ACC bracket and I also had to pay £300 for the sensor to be recalibrated.
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Yer I've got OBD11, but not able to clear fault. I've also got my first MOT due next month, so not sure if it will fail, due to the faults on the dash ??
Unfortunately dash warning lights are an MOT failure now.
Yer thought as much, I'll need to get it booked in with VW :( I wouldn't mind if I used it but never on a motorway..lol
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Why not try a decent bodyshop, they may be cheaper than VW.
My car is at an independent bodyshop at the moment (after a bump) and they can do all the sensor re-alignments and calibrations as part of their repairs.
Just an idea?
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Why not try a decent bodyshop, they may be cheaper than VW.
My car is at an independent bodyshop at the moment (after a bump) and they can do all the sensor re-alignments and calibrations as part of their repairs.
Just an idea?
Too be honest, that's a really good idea. I'm off work this week so I've got some time to look.
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Right, So a quick update for you guys. I have two local dealerships TRUST GROUP. I rang both as mentioned b4 to get an idea on price for re calibration. Both said 220.00 plus vat. Booked in with Stourbridge branch, dropped my car of night b4 (Tuesday) to be done today (Wednesday). At the service desk get told by the procedure (How long it takes 2.5 hours) to do it with the equipment. Quote (This will cost at total of 440.00, which includes 60.00 for diagnostic report).
I said NO i was told over the phone by YOU and YOUR other branch £220.00. (Spoke to Service manager he agreed to match there price) so £250.00 all in
I had a video (heath check) from the technician at the dealers this morning at 8.22am saying been put in front of machine to realign ALL DONE ... They start work at 8.00am. The video shows the car in front of the equipment BUT the equipment has covers over it, The technician saying is all been realigned.
I went down to collect and guess what YES I get a bill for 250.00. I asked them to justify the price and explain how the technician had got the car in removed the grill. connected the system (mirrors, laser) and adjusted the Radar then put it all back together in 20 mins. As they had told me it took 2.5 hours. ..... Turns out there technician started the job at 6.30am .................LOL
I Really don't know how these guys sleep at night
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Sounds more like they have set zero in software after seeing the sensor isn't visibly out of whack... I've got a load of old rope here if anyone wants to give me some cash for it...
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Stourbridge Volkswagen is one to avoid.They tried to sell me a clutch for over a grand when there was nothing wrong with mine, a simple adjustment to gear linkage resolved the issue.
Far too many similar stories from there.
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Stourbridge Volkswagen is one to avoid.They tried to sell me a clutch for over a grand when there was nothing wrong with mine, a simple adjustment to gear linkage resolved the issue.
Far too many similar stories from there.
Yep..... My own fault, My wife had issues with these when she bought her Polo from them.
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Right, So a quick update for you guys. I have two local dealerships TRUST GROUP. I rang both as mentioned b4 to get an idea on price for re calibration. Both said 220.00 plus vat. Booked in with Stourbridge branch, dropped my car of night b4 (Tuesday) to be done today (Wednesday). At the service desk get told by the procedure (How long it takes 2.5 hours) to do it with the equipment. Quote (This will cost at total of 440.00, which includes 60.00 for diagnostic report).
I said NO i was told over the phone by YOU and YOUR other branch £220.00. (Spoke to Service manager he agreed to match there price) so £250.00 all in
I had a video (heath check) from the technician at the dealers this morning at 8.22am saying been put in front of machine to realign ALL DONE ... They start work at 8.00am. The video shows the car in front of the equipment BUT the equipment has covers over it, The technician saying is all been realigned.
I went down to collect and guess what YES I get a bill for 250.00. I asked them to justify the price and explain how the technician had got the car in removed the grill. connected the system (mirrors, laser) and adjusted the Radar then put it all back together in 20 mins. As they had told me it took 2.5 hours. ..... Turns out there technician started the job at 6.30am .................LOL
I Really don't know how these guys sleep at night
This is why they tell you to disconnect your dashcam before you put your car in...Was the technician dressed like Hamburglar from McDonald's?
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Right, So a quick update for you guys. I have two local dealerships TRUST GROUP. I rang both as mentioned b4 to get an idea on price for re calibration. Both said 220.00 plus vat. Booked in with Stourbridge branch, dropped my car of night b4 (Tuesday) to be done today (Wednesday). At the service desk get told by the procedure (How long it takes 2.5 hours) to do it with the equipment. Quote (This will cost at total of 440.00, which includes 60.00 for diagnostic report).
I said NO i was told over the phone by YOU and YOUR other branch £220.00. (Spoke to Service manager he agreed to match there price) so £250.00 all in
I had a video (heath check) from the technician at the dealers this morning at 8.22am saying been put in front of machine to realign ALL DONE ... They start work at 8.00am. The video shows the car in front of the equipment BUT the equipment has covers over it, The technician saying is all been realigned.
I went down to collect and guess what YES I get a bill for 250.00. I asked them to justify the price and explain how the technician had got the car in removed the grill. connected the system (mirrors, laser) and adjusted the Radar then put it all back together in 20 mins. As they had told me it took 2.5 hours. ..... Turns out there technician started the job at 6.30am .................LOL
I Really don't know how these guys sleep at night
This is why they tell you to disconnect your dashcam before you put your car in...Was the technician dressed like Hamburglar from McDonald's?
hiding behind gdpr legislation which is total nonsense. Claims your dashcam will see other people's reg plates while in the workshop :grin: When I challenged Pulman on it I said I can see other people's reg plates right now in the car park so what's the difference, no answer. If a garage has nothing to hide then they shouldn't be asking for dashcams to be turned off.
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Right, So a quick update for you guys. I have two local dealerships TRUST GROUP. I rang both as mentioned b4 to get an idea on price for re calibration. Both said 220.00 plus vat. Booked in with Stourbridge branch, dropped my car of night b4 (Tuesday) to be done today (Wednesday). At the service desk get told by the procedure (How long it takes 2.5 hours) to do it with the equipment. Quote (This will cost at total of 440.00, which includes 60.00 for diagnostic report).
I said NO i was told over the phone by YOU and YOUR other branch £220.00. (Spoke to Service manager he agreed to match there price) so £250.00 all in
I had a video (heath check) from the technician at the dealers this morning at 8.22am saying been put in front of machine to realign ALL DONE ... They start work at 8.00am. The video shows the car in front of the equipment BUT the equipment has covers over it, The technician saying is all been realigned.
I went down to collect and guess what YES I get a bill for 250.00. I asked them to justify the price and explain how the technician had got the car in removed the grill. connected the system (mirrors, laser) and adjusted the Radar then put it all back together in 20 mins. As they had told me it took 2.5 hours. ..... Turns out there technician started the job at 6.30am .................LOL
I Really don't know how these guys sleep at night
This is why they tell you to disconnect your dashcam before you put your car in...Was the technician dressed like Hamburglar from McDonald's?
hiding behind gdpr legislation which is total nonsense. Claims your dashcam will see other people's reg plates while in the workshop :grin: When I challenged Pulman on it I said I can see other people's reg plates right now in the car park so what's the difference, no answer. If a garage has nothing to hide then they shouldn't be asking for dashcams to be turned off.
Holy sh!t, YES never crossed my mind gonna dig it out see if theirs anything on there ...lol
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Right, So a quick update for you guys. I have two local dealerships TRUST GROUP. I rang both as mentioned b4 to get an idea on price for re calibration. Both said 220.00 plus vat. Booked in with Stourbridge branch, dropped my car of night b4 (Tuesday) to be done today (Wednesday). At the service desk get told by the procedure (How long it takes 2.5 hours) to do it with the equipment. Quote (This will cost at total of 440.00, which includes 60.00 for diagnostic report).
I said NO i was told over the phone by YOU and YOUR other branch £220.00. (Spoke to Service manager he agreed to match there price) so £250.00 all in
I had a video (heath check) from the technician at the dealers this morning at 8.22am saying been put in front of machine to realign ALL DONE ... They start work at 8.00am. The video shows the car in front of the equipment BUT the equipment has covers over it, The technician saying is all been realigned.
I went down to collect and guess what YES I get a bill for 250.00. I asked them to justify the price and explain how the technician had got the car in removed the grill. connected the system (mirrors, laser) and adjusted the Radar then put it all back together in 20 mins. As they had told me it took 2.5 hours. ..... Turns out there technician started the job at 6.30am .................LOL
I Really don't know how these guys sleep at night
This is why they tell you to disconnect your dashcam before you put your car in...Was the technician dressed like Hamburglar from McDonald's?
I've just checked both my dashcams (Front & Back)... never be to save ....LOL . Unfortunately for them they left them on...WHOOPS !!! The car was taken in to the workshop at 430pm the night i droppped it off..... In the workshop for 23 mins....comes back on when they take it out of the workshop at 7.55am the next morning. Ready for me to pick up :wink: :wink: So much for starting the work at 6.30am
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Mental. And to think they tried to charge 440.