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Title: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 22 June 2020, 12:49
Hi everyone, hope all is well/safe, have done some searches already but couldnt find exact answer or pics. Finally going to get some new alloys, but unsure on set up to get.

Currently got the Brescia 19's - 7.5J on the car - 225/35

New alloys i see come in 19 - 8.5J ET43 or 8J ET44  - not sure which to go?

i know it's probably minimal, i've used will they fit site also, but prefer to speak to actual people who maybe had these set up's before? the car is not lowered....yet, i will be putting on KW V3's once wheels are on.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Exonian on 23 June 2020, 12:25
I briefly had 8x19 ET44 BBS alloys on my GTI back in 2013/14.
See pic for how they sat in the arches.
I’ve run a few different offsets and sizes since.
If you’re going to lower it much then I’d stick with the safer 8” ET44 option personally.
The 8.5’s will be marginal on the front for road use at standard height but they sure will fill the arches!

Is there any way you can order two pairs if they’re the same design?
The more aggressive ones will fit the rear just fine and the 8” ET44 would have sufficient front clearance.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fgf9Krf/8-E3-B5-F66-D817-45-A0-89-FE-5-B9-E7-A1-A1-D5-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLW5Zdwm)
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 23 June 2020, 15:53
I briefly had 8x19 ET44 BBS alloys on my GTI back in 2013/14.
See pic for how they sat in the arches.
I’ve run a few different offsets and sizes since.
If you’re going to lower it much then I’d stick with the safer 8” ET44 option personally.
The 8.5’s will be marginal on the front for road use at standard height but they sure will fill the arches!

Is there any way you can order two pairs if they’re the same design?
The more aggressive ones will fit the rear just fine and the 8” ET44 would have sufficient front clearance.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fgf9Krf/8-E3-B5-F66-D817-45-A0-89-FE-5-B9-E7-A1-A1-D5-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLW5Zdwm)

Hi, yeah i think i'm going to go with the 8X19, been thinking i have more room to play with spacers if required, if i went the wider ones then realised stick out too much then i'm stuck with them.  I've found only one company that offers the BBS wheels i want in the 8X5J and are a BBS dealer, said it's one off special order so no returns - Apparently BBS Germany does not even have the 8X5J in stock anymore so must of stopped making them.

I also thought, with the 8J i can stick with same tyre size as my current Brescia alloys also.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Exonian on 23 June 2020, 16:49
What style of wheel are you going for?

I’d guessed it was BBS as they seem the only ones that make 8x18 ET44 for VW group stuff (usually with the correct centre bore too).
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 23 June 2020, 17:13
What style of wheel are you going for?

I’d guessed it was BBS as they seem the only ones that make 8x18 ET44 for VW group stuff (usually with the correct centre bore too).

BBS CI-R i'm going to put on
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Exonian on 23 June 2020, 17:43
Nice :afro:
I do like those
Good choice  :smiley:
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Exonian on 23 June 2020, 17:45
Oh, go 235/35-19 not 225’s on an 8” wide wheel
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 23 June 2020, 18:04
Oh, go 235/35-19 not 225’s on an 8” wide wheel

oh, i was going to 225's? i'd of thought 235's look quite chunky
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Gnasher on 23 June 2020, 18:18
Here's mine on a set of 19" BBS SR (19x8.5 ET46) these are fitted with 235/35 R19 Goodyear Eagle F1's…

Apologies for the link but I need to look up posting photos again, not done it in a while lol - also, don't know the in's and out's of using other people's pictures by that site, as they're mine, but not really bothered...

https://autotk.com/tuning/volkswagen/gti/16088/ (https://autotk.com/tuning/volkswagen/gti/16088/)

Personally I think the tyres look just right - I agree that 225/35 might look too stretched on a 8.5" rim, although you'll gain a little clearance.

For reference, I have Eibach sportline springs fitted and have had to do the fender screw mod. It's not rubbed once since I did it though.

Oh, and if the CI-R has the same mounting system as the SR, then BBS will warn you against using any type of spacer with them. The spigot ring is metal with a circlip holding it in, which means it's spaced back from the mounting face by enough to make some spacers lose the centering ability on the hub.

Also, - edit no. 2 - the 8.5" wheels are ET45 according to the BBS website, should fit fine with 235 tyres.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 23 June 2020, 18:46
Here's mine on a set of 19" BBS SR (19x8.5 ET46) these are fitted with 235/35 R19 Goodyear Eagle F1's…

Apologies for the link but I need to look up posting photos again, not done it in a while lol - also, don't know the in's and out's of using other people's pictures by that site, as they're mine, but not really bothered...

https://autotk.com/tuning/volkswagen/gti/16088/ (https://autotk.com/tuning/volkswagen/gti/16088/)

Personally I think the tyres look just right - I agree that 225/35 might look too stretched on a 8.5" rim, although you'll gain a little clearance.

For reference, I have Eibach sportline springs fitted and have had to do the fender screw mod. It's not rubbed once since I did it though.

Oh, and if the CI-R has the same mounting system as the SR, then BBS will warn you against using any type of spacer with them. The spigot ring is metal with a circlip holding it in, which means it's spaced back from the mounting face by enough to make some spacers lose the centering ability on the hub.

Also, - edit no. 2 - the 8.5" wheels are ET45 according to the BBS website, should fit fine with 235 tyres.

yeah i would go 235's on an 8.5J, but 225 on an 8J. 

didn't know about this info ref spacers??? so can't have them no? i know a certain car had the CI-R's on 8.5 ET45 and ran 12.5mm spacers on each corner.

Now i'm unsure lol
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 23 June 2020, 18:47
I'm also going to go with the goodyear eagles for a change, heard good things about them
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Gnasher on 23 June 2020, 18:57
I can only go on what was on the instructions in bug letters when I got mine which said not to use spacers, the CI-R may be different though. That said, if you've got the 8.5" ET45 there's no way you'd need spacers anyway (in my opinion).
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 23 June 2020, 19:58
I can only go on what was on the instructions in bug letters when I got mine which said not to use spacers, the CI-R may be different though. That said, if you've got the 8.5" ET45 there's no way you'd need spacers anyway (in my opinion).

yeah my dad says this, i'm now thinking to just go with the 8.5 ET43 to make up encase of the spacers thing. I am trying to search for any info ref this but can't seem to find anything.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: N14ll on 24 June 2020, 20:18
Hi everyone, hope all is well/safe, have done some searches already but couldnt find exact answer or pics. Finally going to get some new alloys, but unsure on set up to get.

Currently got the Brescia 19's - 7.5J on the car - 225/35

New alloys i see come in 19 - 8.5J ET43 or 8J ET44  - not sure which to go?

i know it's probably minimal, i've used will they fit site also, but prefer to speak to actual people who maybe had these set up's before? the car is not lowered....yet, i will be putting on KW V3's once wheels are on.
In the same boat as you & close to pulling the trigger on 19x8, 5x112 et44 bbs ci-r in bronze... Also considering using the current 223/35/19 p zero that came on my Brescia's as they've only covered 1500kms.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 24 June 2020, 22:48
Hi everyone, hope all is well/safe, have done some searches already but couldnt find exact answer or pics. Finally going to get some new alloys, but unsure on set up to get.

Currently got the Brescia 19's - 7.5J on the car - 225/35

New alloys i see come in 19 - 8.5J ET43 or 8J ET44  - not sure which to go?

i know it's probably minimal, i've used will they fit site also, but prefer to speak to actual people who maybe had these set up's before? the car is not lowered....yet, i will be putting on KW V3's once wheels are on.
In the same boat as you & close to pulling the trigger on 19x8, 5x112 et44 bbs ci-r in bronze... Also considering using the current 223/35/19 p zero that came on my Brescia's as they've only covered 1500kms.

still not made a decision, hope to tomorrow. been outside measuring etc. my dad thinks either will be fine, but def wont need spacers on the 8.5J, will do one last sure measure up in morning and go from there. Ideally i didnt want to go down the spacer route but.....urgh my brain is fried now by all the millimetres lol
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Gnasher on 25 June 2020, 15:12
Just done a bit of digging on the BBS website...

The 2 different sizes are either 19x8(ET44) or 19x8.5(ET45) - don't know where you're getting ET43 from, but the sizes and offsets I've got are straight from the BBS website. That said, what's 2mm between friends! https://bbs.com/pdfs/gutachten/Anwendungslisten/Anw_CIR.pdf (https://bbs.com/pdfs/gutachten/Anwendungslisten/Anw_CIR.pdf)

From looking on  the "will they fit" website, the 8.5" wheels will poke 7.3mm more than the 8" wheels. My fronts (8.5" wide, ET46) are perfectly flush, so 1mm difference will make next to no difference on looks. https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=225&aspect=35&diameter=19&wheelwidth=8&offset=44&width2=235&aspect2=35&wheel_size=19&wheel_width=8-5&offset2=45 (https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=225&aspect=35&diameter=19&wheelwidth=8&offset=44&width2=235&aspect2=35&wheel_size=19&wheel_width=8-5&offset2=45) - you'd be able to compare your standard wheels to both sizes on this website too if that helps.

If it were me, I'd go for the 8.5" width with 235 tyres. I've had literally no issues with mine apart from having to do the fender screw mod, which takes about half an hour (I'm lowered too on Eibach sportlines).

I've had so many people mention how good the fitment is on mine. If you're anywhere near Lincoln, you're more than welcome to come have a look at mine to asses the fitment for yourself if you're still on the fence about it.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 25 June 2020, 16:00
Just done a bit of digging on the BBS website...

The 2 different sizes are either 19x8(ET44) or 19x8.5(ET45) - don't know where you're getting ET43 from, but the sizes and offsets I've got are straight from the BBS website. That said, what's 2mm between friends! https://bbs.com/pdfs/gutachten/Anwendungslisten/Anw_CIR.pdf (https://bbs.com/pdfs/gutachten/Anwendungslisten/Anw_CIR.pdf)

From looking on  the "will they fit" website, the 8.5" wheels will poke 7.3mm more than the 8" wheels. My fronts (8.5" wide, ET46) are perfectly flush, so 1mm difference will make next to no difference on looks. https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=225&aspect=35&diameter=19&wheelwidth=8&offset=44&width2=235&aspect2=35&wheel_size=19&wheel_width=8-5&offset2=45 (https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=225&aspect=35&diameter=19&wheelwidth=8&offset=44&width2=235&aspect2=35&wheel_size=19&wheel_width=8-5&offset2=45) - you'd be able to compare your standard wheels to both sizes on this website too if that helps.

If it were me, I'd go for the 8.5" width with 235 tyres. I've had literally no issues with mine apart from having to do the fender screw mod, which takes about half an hour (I'm lowered too on Eibach sportlines).

I've had so many people mention how good the fitment is on mine. If you're anywhere near Lincoln, you're more than welcome to come have a look at mine to asses the fitment for yourself if you're still on the fence about it.

thanks for info and offer, i'm based herts/north london, but i am usually up in newark/grantham (pre lockdown).  I had my car out today in main road, ruler / tape measures out, back and forth, think gonna settle for the 8J's ET44 - now and go 235/35 with PS4's - think this will be best and i know for certain i'll look good still.

haha it's mad tho, coz others will go, you're all talking just milimetrers, crazy tho how 1-2 make such a difference lol

the ET43 was coming up as selection on BBS Dealer rimstyle's website, just did a search google and also comes up with that offset - but now seems to advertiser different PCD

thanks everyone tho for assistance / info / help - sorry if been a nightmare. pics will be put up when all done
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 13 July 2020, 16:35
So finally got my alloys fitted saturday, i ended up going with the 8J ET44, they look stunning - photo's do not do it justice, had quite a nice response from the staff/customers when i was there. Hopefully now get the coilovers on, i feel just needs some spacers on the rear, 11mm each side, that's it as fronts seem perfect. thanks for your help

(https://i.ibb.co/6rWfXQc/107909705-3107369102646168-3405529551456657205-o.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/N7w9FNC/107833945-3107369099312835-398236713306827748-o.jpg)
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Ceefeesh on 13 July 2020, 17:25
Those look smart! Sorry I got a bit lost amongst the posts. Am I correct that they are 19 x 8? Shod with PS4 40 x 235? They are nice rims. What colour is your car?  👍
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: r600_clubsport on 13 July 2020, 17:34
Those look smart! Sorry I got a bit lost amongst the posts. Am I correct that they are 19 x 8? Shod with PS4 40 x 235? They are nice rims. What colour is your car?  👍

Hi, car is Carbon Steel Grey, wheels are 19X8J - ET44. PS4's tyres, 235/35/19. 
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Pretzel on 13 July 2020, 18:12
There is a set of the BBS wheels available in the for sale section at the moment. I had forgotten how good they look.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: N14ll on 13 July 2020, 21:42
So finally got my alloys fitted saturday, i ended up going with the 8J ET44, they look stunning - photo's do not do it justice, had quite a nice response from the staff/customers when i was there. Hopefully now get the coilovers on, i feel just needs some spacers on the rear, 11mm each side, that's it as fronts seem perfect. thanks for your help

(https://i.ibb.co/6rWfXQc/107909705-3107369102646168-3405529551456657205-o.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/N7w9FNC/107833945-3107369099312835-398236713306827748-o.jpg)

Those look fantastic, really compliments your car😎👌
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: Ceefeesh on 13 July 2020, 22:25

Hi, car is Carbon Steel Grey, wheels are 19X8J - ET44. PS4's tyres, 235/35/19.

Thanks for the reply. Obviously 19 x 35 or 18 x 40 I wasn’t sure which. Very classy.
Title: Re: alloy wheel help
Post by: rajb on 14 July 2020, 16:35
Stunning looking with the Carbon paint and CI-R's.