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Title: Run in period
Post by: trueblue_ips on 21 June 2019, 19:34
Hi, just waiting for delivery of my leased R now which should be next week. Getting excited.
What is the minimum safe run in period or miles for the car?
Someone told me you must drive the first 1000 miles driving like Miss Daisy. Really?
It's not my car long term but don't want to trash it for the next owner or have it blow up on me.
When can I try my first launch in the car?

Thanks
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: BobbyT on 21 June 2019, 19:54
I didn't take mine past 4k revs for the first 300 miles, varied the revs and no full throttle, after that I started to go up to 5k and by 500 miles I was starting to spank it's arse.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Finglonga on 21 June 2019, 21:42
Engine tolerances are so good nowadays running in is a thing of the past, just don't labour the engine for the first few hundred miles and make sure it is warm before anything else.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: wantmygti on 21 June 2019, 21:54
You said leased car right??
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: sjw on 21 June 2019, 22:21
You said leased car right??

Fastest cars in the world, lease cars....
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: trueblue_ips on 21 June 2019, 23:06
Cheers, so I guess there's no official run in period then that VW insist on which would otherwise void the warranty?
Good news :smiley:
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Yusee on 21 June 2019, 23:34
The warranty will never be an issue as they’ll have no way of knowing whether you followed recommendations or not.
Modern engines may have high tolerance, but car makers still recommend a running in period which , for the golf gti/r is 1500km.
Vary the engine speed, no more than 2/3 top engine speed, no full throttle, then increase gradually.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: sjw on 21 June 2019, 23:35
Cheers, so I guess there's no official run in period then that VW insist on which would otherwise void the warranty?
Good news :smiley:

The general consensus is not to push the revs too high for the first 1000 miles or so. VW wouldn't void your warranty if you did anything like that, but it is supposedly better for the engine long term if you don't. I got mine with 6000 miles on the clock so god knows what it had already been through
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: trueblue_ips on 22 June 2019, 04:52
Really? It's going to take me 3 months to do 1000 miles.  :sad: I've only got a 2 year lease.
Maybe I'm overthinking this. I could just do 300 miles of driving, not going anywhere particular, to get used to the car and gradually increase revs and speed over that time.
I just wondered whether the owners manual insisted on a run in period. Also, I was told the car tracks how you drive for VW to review in case of issues? E.g it definitely tracks each use of launch control.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Yusee on 22 June 2019, 08:04
If you aren’t concerned about long term reliability and efficiency then drive it how you like. Don’t worry about it.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: SRGTD on 22 June 2019, 08:50
Just drive it normally / sensibly. As has been said, always ensure the oil is up to optimum temperature before any spirited driving, vary your speed, engine revs and avoid labouring or over-revving the engine.

Bear in mind that with a new car, the tyre treads might still have some of the lubricant on them that is used in the factory to release the tyres from the vulcanising moulds when they’re manufactured. Therefore, it might take a few miles driving for this lubricant to wear off. Until then, tyre grip might not be at its most effective, so it makes sense to avoid hard braking / cornering during the first few miles of driving - unless necessary in an emergency avoidance situation. Similarly with brakes, avoid hard braking that could (in rare circumstances) result in the brakes overheating. Gentle frequent braking during the first, say, couple of hundred miles should ensure good contact between the pad and disc surfaces, which should help optimise braking performance and efficiency in the longer term.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Watts on 23 June 2019, 19:01
I got my car as an ex-demo/manager's company car with 1500 miles on it. I strongly suspect the sales staff were not especially careful with it judging by the test drive I was given but it has been near 100% reliable (only fault has been a wheel bearing which was due to a pot hole) and in four years has only ever neaded a couple of small oil top ups between services. So I really wouldn't worry about it, there's nothing much you can do to it that will be an issue in the 2 or 3 years you'll have it for.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: sjw on 24 June 2019, 09:33
I got my car as an ex-demo/manager's company car with 1500 miles on it. I strongly suspect the sales staff were not especially careful with it judging by the test drive I was given but it has been near 100% reliable (only fault has been a wheel bearing which was due to a pot hole) and in four years has only ever neaded a couple of small oil top ups between services. So I really wouldn't worry about it, there's nothing much you can do to it that will be an issue in the 2 or 3 years you'll have it for.

That's what mine was, although it had 6000 miles on the clock. At 14000 now, no issues that I'm aware of - service on friday!
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: dubber36 on 24 June 2019, 12:47
I just wondered whether the owners manual insisted on a run in period. Also, I was told the car tracks how you drive for VW to review in case of issues? E.g it definitely tracks each use of launch control.

Launch control is the most pointless feature the DSG box offers. By the time S/M has been engaged, ESP has been turned off and feet repositioned on the pedals, the person that has just floored it in D is already doing over 60mph and disappearing off down the road.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 24 June 2019, 12:52
I just wondered whether the owners manual insisted on a run in period. Also, I was told the car tracks how you drive for VW to review in case of issues? E.g it definitely tracks each use of launch control.

Launch control is the most pointless feature the DSG box offers. By the time S/M has been engaged, ESP has been turned off and feet repositioned on the pedals, the person that has just floored it in D is already doing over 60mph and disappearing off down the road.

And actually for a lot of cars, in reality, it can often be as quick to just floor it anyway as demonstrated in lots of various drag races on Youtube by people like Carwow.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: sjw on 24 June 2019, 16:22
I just wondered whether the owners manual insisted on a run in period. Also, I was told the car tracks how you drive for VW to review in case of issues? E.g it definitely tracks each use of launch control.

Launch control is the most pointless feature the DSG box offers. By the time S/M has been engaged, ESP has been turned off and feet repositioned on the pedals, the person that has just floored it in D is already doing over 60mph and disappearing off down the road.

Don't be ridiculous now. You obviously set that stuff up before the light goes green...
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: boardlord on 24 June 2019, 23:22
Mine had 9 miles on it when I picked it up, I had a 1/4 mile drive to the dual carriage way slip road took it steady for that 1/4 mile never went other 2500 revs and never laboured the gearbox, hit the slip road and have never looked back  :smiley:

However If I was keeping the car longer than the warranty period then it would have had a progressive run in up until 1000 miles just for piece of mind
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Crockers on 25 June 2019, 09:26
Mine had 9 miles on it when I picked it up, I had a 1/4 mile drive to the dual carriage way slip road took it steady for that 1/4 mile never went other 2500 revs and never laboured the gearbox, hit the slip road and have never looked back  :smiley:

However If I was keeping the car longer than the warranty period then it would have had a progressive run in up until 1000 miles just for piece of mind


What he said...👍👍
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: ar899 on 25 June 2019, 10:42
boardlord - so, in effect, if not keeping the car beyond it's warranty period, just thrash it and pass onto some poor unsuspecting bu**er who buys it then?
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 25 June 2019, 14:43
boardlord - so, in effect, if not keeping the car beyond it's warranty period, just thrash it and pass onto some poor unsuspecting bu**er who buys it then?

He's only being honest!

If you buy a used car, how do you know how it's been driven? You don't. You can get a gut feel by the overall condition but you don't know if the previous owner warmed it up every drive or thrashed it from cold. Absolutely impossible apart from in one situation. You buy it off someone you actually know.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: boardlord on 25 June 2019, 15:27
boardlord - so, in effect, if not keeping the car beyond it's warranty period, just thrash it and pass onto some poor unsuspecting bu**er who buys it then?

Anyone buying a second hand hot hatch that think's its been loving cared for all its life is just kidding themselves  :undecided:
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: trueblue_ips on 25 June 2019, 18:53
boardlord - so, in effect, if not keeping the car beyond it's warranty period, just thrash it and pass onto some poor unsuspecting bu**er who buys it then?

He's only being honest!

If you buy a used car, how do you know how it's been driven? You don't. You can get a gut feel by the overall condition but you don't know if the previous owner warmed it up every drive or thrashed it from cold. Absolutely impossible apart from in one situation. You buy it off someone you actually know.

I think this is right. Guy at work told me I could thrash it mercilessly as it's just a lease. I told him I didn't think that was fair on the next owner.
I will take sensible precautions like making sure it's fully up to temp and gradually increasing the revs for the first couple of hundred miles but not going to worry now beyond that. I won't be driving that quick that often anyway.
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Yusee on 25 June 2019, 19:30
What about the chap in the pub- What did he say?
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: trueblue_ips on 25 June 2019, 20:30
What about the chap in the pub- What did he say?
He said just nail it from the get go  :whistle:
Title: Re: Run in period
Post by: Yusee on 25 June 2019, 21:30
Haha. Nice one!
It’s an interesting question- whether modern cars need running in or not.
If you’re interested, this is a good video-

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oklqJnm7_TY