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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jeni_R_ on 04 June 2018, 10:57
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SO there is coding to deactivate the torque restriction on the car
Has anyone done this (non track drivers) and can tell me the purpose of it ? perhaps i am being naive but would removing this or putting it from Strong to Normal going to affect the lag you get in 1st and 2nd - i have a pedalbox on anyway, but when the pedalbox is off (service etc) the car in 1/2nd is always very short and i wondered if this is why ?
Jen
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First and second being short is more gearing than anything else on the GTD.
I know you asked about this when you first got your GTD...
The Mini that you came from has a very different gear ratio to a Golf.
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First and second being short is more gearing than anything else on the GTD.
I know you asked about this when you first got your GTD...
The Mini that you came from has a very different gear ratio to a Golf.
So really it is not a tweek i need to be doing ?
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Jen,
The gears in the car (1st and 2nd you mention) are what they are. That combined with the final drive ratio gives your gearing (mph/1000 revs). That doesn't change one bit with a pedal box. All the pedal box is doing is translating the movement of your foot on the accelerator differently to stock. It doesn't change the gearing at all.
On a diesel, due to the fact that they run very high compression ratios (amongst other reasons), most of the time they red line at between 4.5-5.5k revs. A petrol can go as high as 8k revs as it runs lower compression rates (and many other factors related to diesel vs petrol fuels). It's one of the reasons why my last 3 diesel VW's (one Scirocco and 2 MK7 GTD's) all had DSG boxes rather than manual. Because you run out of revs so quickly in 1st and 2nd gear, and when trying to make a quick getaway, rather than snatching for the next gear so quickly as the rev counter enters the red zone, the DSG just takes care of it, and allows you to make rapid progress without really noticing the limited rev range on the diesel engines.
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Jen,
The gears in the car (1st and 2nd you mention) are what they are. That combined with the final drive ratio gives your gearing (mph/1000 revs). That doesn't change one bit with a pedal box. All the pedal box is doing is translating the movement of your foot on the accelerator differently to stock. It doesn't change the gearing at all.
On a diesel, due to the fact that they run very high compression ratios (amongst other reasons), most of the time they red line at between 4.5-5.5k revs. A petrol can go as high as 8k revs as it runs lower compression rates (and many other factors related to diesel vs petrol fuels). It's one of the reasons why my last 3 diesel VW's (one Scirocco and 2 MK7 GTD's) all had DSG boxes rather than manual. Because you run out of revs so quickly in 1st and 2nd gear, and when trying to make a quick getaway, rather than snatching for the next gear so quickly as the rev counter enters the red zone, the DSG just takes care of it, and allows you to make rapid progress without really noticing the limited rev range on the diesel engines.
Perfectly put :smiley:
I don’t know but deactivating the torque restriction would surely lead to massive wheelspin in low gears or just make the traction control work twice as hard for the same progress as normal?
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Does the GTD have torque restrictions in the bottom two gears?
Mine always felt like it did but I passed it off as the low mileage and whatever VW do to the ECU to make the cars feel a bit sluggish when new.
The bottom two gears do feel way too low.
I felt the same with the R.
I’ve driven a few commercial vehicles with torque restrictors in the lower gears.
It’s a shame the GTD does feel hampered in the bottom gears as I’ve driven a few T5’s with broadly similar engines and they flew off the line when unloaded.
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Does the GTD have torque restrictions in the bottom two gears?
Mine always felt like it did but I passed it off as the low mileage and whatever VW do to the ECU to make the cars feel a bit sluggish when new.
The bottom two gears do feel way too low.
I felt the same with the R.
I’ve driven a few commercial vehicles with torque restrictors in the lower gears.
It’s a shame the GTD does feel hampered in the bottom gears as I’ve driven a few T5’s with broadly similar engines and they flew off the line when unloaded.
Well mines is set to strong ive now got it st normal but as yet havent removed my pedalbox so not sure if any difference will check 2moro
On another note my helix sub came today so busy weekend ahead!
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Are you fitting the Helix yourself Jeni?
Good luck...
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Are you fitting the Helix yourself Jeni?
Good luck...
Yes ....why?
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https://youtu.be/6dKJtnaV9CU
Sooner you than me! Check the tools you need... For £450 a dealer will supply and fit...
Have you got the magic programming dongle to set it up for a Golf?
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https://youtu.be/6dKJtnaV9CU
Sooner you than me! Check the tools you need... For £450 a dealer will supply and fit...
Have you got the magic programming dongle to set it up for a Golf?
Only need 3 tools, trim removal, pin renoval, din keys and its been programmed in germsny to my car all else fails a guy in Greenock has the dongle plus thr fitting skills shoukd i need them although im pretty sure i should manage...clever lassie me all in £325 saved myself a few bob which will go towards the app connect i mailed u about earlier 😉
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For the sake of £125 I’d rather not lose the best part of a day and guarantee a perfect install but good luck!
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And how do you know Jeni won't do a perfect install? Do you seriously think a dealer will do a perfect install?
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And how do you know Jeni won't do a perfect install? Do you seriously think a dealer will do a perfect install?
All of the inevitable broken bits of plastic trim, the subsequent refit job and the skin on my knuckles.... even a tight Yorkshire born and bred person like me would sooner pay someone to assume that risk.
TBH Jeni I am more interested in knowing if you can still have the spare wheel in your GTD with it fitted and what you think it sounds like when its done. I assume that once its fitted and (if possible) the spare wheel is also there that you can't use the lower boot level without removing it? Removing it should be easy though, unplug and just lift it out but I wonder if everything audio then still works ok?
All of these questions are why I didn't yet decide to get one - don't get me wrong, I love the idea - I love a bit of loud music!
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And how do you know Jeni won't do a perfect install? Do you seriously think a dealer will do a perfect install?
Thank you McMaddy, i was a bit miffed at the remark but held my tongue...............i realise i am a girl however i am fairly meticulous when i am doing stuff especially to my car i am also very technically skilled when it comes to electronic devices so i am fairly confident in doing this and why would i pay someone to perhaps bust my clips and damage my LED light at least doing myself i know nothing will get damaged and covered up !
Jen :)
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I wasn't saying it because you are a girl Jeni! I was saying it because I thought it was a job I'd f*** up!
I wanted to make sure that you weren't fooled by the term "plug and play" - like I was initially. "plug and play" in my book is that the cable is there under the carpet and I plug the thing in it. That's "plug and play".... this is definitely not. This is "fit an amp and sub woofer" just like you'd fit an amp and subwoofer to any car (I helped my son fit one to his Nova years ago, but it wasn't a brand new car by a long way and it didn't matter if we f'ed it up... and we certainly did and it took us a whole day of cursing).
So good luck.... and let us know how it goes.
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And how do you know Jeni won't do a perfect install? Do you seriously think a dealer will do a perfect install?
All of the inevitable broken bits of plastic trim, the subsequent refit job and the skin on my knuckles.... even a tight Yorkshire born and bred person like me would sooner pay someone to assume that risk.
TBH Jeni I am more interested in knowing if you can still have the spare wheel in your GTD with it fitted and what you think it sounds like when its done. I assume that once its fitted and (if possible) the spare wheel is also there that you can't use the lower boot level without removing it? Removing it should be easy though, unplug and just lift it out but I wonder if everything audio then still works ok?
All of these questions are why I didn't yet decide to get one - don't get me wrong, I love the idea - I love a bit of loud music!
My understanding is the only MK7 you cant install with the spare in is the R, the GTD/GTi you purchase a longer screw pin so both can sit together, however i came from a mini and had no spare wheel only several cans of Holtts Tyre Weld, if i have to remove the spare i will it makes no difference to me whatsoever i didnt have one in my car for the last 4 years BUT i believe they can be in there together happily :)
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My only word of caution with regard to not having a spare is that some recovery companies get shirty if you have a puncture (that you can't repair with the foam thing) and will charge you for recovery...
I know some cars don't have spares (my previous Mondeo didn't because I had huge drug dealer wheels on it) but it didn't matter because it was a company vehicle and any problems were paid for by the company...
Just be aware and check your breakdown cover...
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My only word of caution with regard to not having a spare is that some recovery companies get shirty if you have a puncture (that you can't repair with the foam thing) and will charge you for recovery...
I know some cars don't have spares (my previous Mondeo didn't because I had huge drug dealer wheels on it) but it didn't matter because it was a company vehicle and any problems were paid for by the company...
Just be aware and check your breakdown cover...
my previous Mondeo didn't because I had huge drug dealer wheels on it) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This made me chuckle - i have now decided you are not as old as i assumed !
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My only word of caution with regard to not having a spare is that some recovery companies get shirty if you have a puncture (that you can't repair with the foam thing) and will charge you for recovery...
This is covered by my green flag anyway :grin:
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Fred it wasn't you that the post was for. It was the other rather rude response about doing "a perfect install".
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For the sake of £125 I’d rather not lose the best part of a day and guarantee a perfect install but good luck!
And its probably a MAX 2 hour install time, the equivalent of doing the housework or a 10mile run.......i know what i would prefer to be doing :wink:
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My only word of caution with regard to not having a spare is that some recovery companies get shirty if you have a puncture (that you can't repair with the foam thing) and will charge you for recovery...
I know some cars don't have spares (my previous Mondeo didn't because I had huge drug dealer wheels on it) but it didn't matter because it was a company vehicle and any problems were paid for by the company...
Just be aware and check your breakdown cover...
my previous Mondeo didn't because I had huge drug dealer wheels on it) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This made me chuckle - i have now decided you are not as old as i assumed !
That was my son's name for them and it kind of stuck!
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And how do you know Jeni won't do a perfect install? Do you seriously think a dealer will do a perfect install?
You’ve gone from 0-100mph in 2 seconds again :grin:
It was just my opinion buddy and what I would do in the situation, never mentioned the ability of a stranger on the internet because it would be rude to comment on something I don’t know about. I know and trust my dealer, if you don’t trust yours then I’d suggest moving to another.
Jen, no offence intended. I have a track record of snapping clips so it was just what I would do in the situation. Like it said in my post, I genuinely wish you good luck and hope it goes well.
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And how do you know Jeni won't do a perfect install? Do you seriously think a dealer will do a perfect install?
You’ve gone from 0-100mph in 2 seconds again :grin:
It was just my opinion buddy and what I would do in the situation, never mentioned the ability of a stranger on the internet because it would be rude to comment on something I don’t know about. I know and trust my dealer, if you don’t trust yours then I’d suggest moving to another.
Jen, no offence intended. I have a track record of snapping clips so it was just what I would do in the situation. Like it said in my post, I genuinely wish you good luck and hope it goes well.
None taken dude :wink:
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For the sake of £125 I’d rather not lose the best part of a day and guarantee a perfect install but good luck!
And its probably a MAX 2 hour install time, the equivalent of doing the housework or a 10mile run.......i know what i would prefer to be doing :wink:
I’d rather go for a 2 hour run :grin:
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To be honest the modern latest clips seem to last a bit longer than before especially if you use a trim removal tool.
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For the sake of £125 I’d rather not lose the best part of a day and guarantee a perfect install but good luck!
And its probably a MAX 2 hour install time, the equivalent of doing the housework or a 10mile run.......i know what i would prefer to be doing :wink:
I’d rather go for a 2 hour run :grin:
If im lucky al manage both :wink:
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I'm sure it'll all go perfectly :wink:
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I'm sure it'll all go perfectly :wink:
Total instal timenof 1hour 45mins no broken clips no led issues and all sounds fkn fabulous app connect installed AND my rear squeek issue resolved....happy days
Any of u lads want ur sub installed with no broken clips and a perfect job start to finish give me a shout 😉
(https://s33.postimg.cc/m4qoi2iy3/20180609_165644.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m4qoi2iy3/)
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I'm sure it'll all go perfectly :wink:
Total instal timenof 1hour 45mins no broken clips no led issues and all sounds fkn fabulous app connect installed AND my rear squeek issue resolved....happy days
Any of u lads want ur sub installed with no broken clips and a perfect job start to finish give me a shout 😉
(https://s33.postimg.cc/m4qoi2iy3/20180609_165644.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m4qoi2iy3/)
Bravo Jeni :smiley:
Has the app connect lived up to expectations?
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I'm sure it'll all go perfectly :wink:
Total instal timenof 1hour 45mins no broken clips no led issues and all sounds fkn fabulous app connect installed AND my rear squeek issue resolved....happy days
Any of u lads want ur sub installed with no broken clips and a perfect job start to finish give me a shout 😉
(https://s33.postimg.cc/m4qoi2iy3/20180609_165644.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m4qoi2iy3/)
Bravo Jeni :smiley:
Has the app connect lived up to expectations?
Not quite i expected it to mirror my fone with android auto and mirror link neither do but it does play my whats app messages and spotify so that works however it foes not make the voice cont on my wheel work
Overall im pleased eill have a better fiddle with the aa 2moro im off to have my 2nd can of magners and a hot bath !
😉
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I'm sure it'll all go perfectly :wink:
Total instal timenof 1hour 45mins no broken clips no led issues and all sounds fkn fabulous app connect installed AND my rear squeek issue resolved....happy days
Any of u lads want ur sub installed with no broken clips and a perfect job start to finish give me a shout 😉
(https://s33.postimg.cc/m4qoi2iy3/20180609_165644.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m4qoi2iy3/)
Good work Jeni, enjoy that bass!
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s however it foes not make the voice cont on my wheel work
Once you have got AA running.... do a LONG press of the voice command button on the wheel...
A short one is to activate the VW voice system (which you don't have) but a long one should trigger AA...
PS well done with the fit. Are you free next weekend to sort mine out? :D
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s however it foes not make the voice cont on my wheel work
Once you have got AA running.... do a LONG press of the voice command button on the wheel...
A short one is to activate the VW voice system (which you don't have) but a long one should trigger AA...
PS well done with the fit. Are you free next weekend to sort mine out? :D
Will try this today i dont want to have to touch the mic on the hu display sort of defeats the purpose and saying ok google doesnt always trigger a response 🤔
Amdd i would love to fred however this weekend i have Tough Mudder then my ftont speakers to upgrade on Sunday 😁 next time ur up in Scotland give me a shout a case of Cidrè will cover ur instal cost 😉 on another note i called to get an instal cost from 2 ice places one was £287+vat the othrr didnt know how to instal 😳 moral of this story dont bother changing or DIY
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s however it foes not make the voice cont on my wheel work
Once you have got AA running.... do a LONG press of the voice command button on the wheel...
A short one is to activate the VW voice system (which you don't have) but a long one should trigger AA...
PS well done with the fit. Are you free next weekend to sort mine out? :D
Hey Fred
That worked a treat on thr steering wheel today thanks for that
Can i ask, on aa how do you access other apps ? Ive downloaded youtubeauto and have set it up as per guidance however when i connect to the car there is no option to select other apps note that i am tryingbto get this to work for kids not me !
Any ideas when i click the wee button to the right all i get is 'return to volkswagen'🙄
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What sort of app is it? Audio or Nav?
If you have extra audio or navigation apps loaded on your phone you'll see a downward pointing arrow next to the icons at the bottom of the AA screen. Hold down (nav or audio) icons and up will pop a list of the things you can choose from.
I have TuneIn internet radio, BBC Radio IPlayer and Wayz installed and that's how you swap between them.
A bit not obvious!
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Ahhh I have just realised what you are talking about...
Youtubeauto got renamed "Carstream"
Here is the author's development page:
https://github.com/thekirankumar/carstream-android-auto
Last comment "Apr 2018 : Google has blocked all custom apps on Android Auto, hence this app won't work anymore."
Sorry, it won't work.
(Previously it needed all sort of things doing to make it work, because it wasn't a Google Play published application, because Google didn't like it for a number of reasons!)
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Ahhh I have just realised what you are talking about...
Youtubeauto got renamed "Carstream"
Here is the author's development page:
https://github.com/thekirankumar/carstream-android-auto
Last comment "Apr 2018 : Google has blocked all custom apps on Android Auto, hence this app won't work anymore."
Sorry, it won't work.
(Previously it needed all sort of things doing to make it work, because it wasn't a Google Play published application, because Google didn't like it for a number of reasons!)
Thats the one - yeah i read that earlier i am going to try Mirrorlink see if that allows it as youtube can be played through the rockscout app i believe