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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: dubber36 on 03 April 2018, 14:39
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I detest our 1.6TDI Match with a passion. It's just so dull, I won't drive it. My wife is happy enough with it, but in an 'it'll do' kind of way. I get my pleasure from my Amarok and on rare occasions my Mk2 GTI, but wondered if I'd get enthused a little more about a sportier Golf. I like the look of the GTE and am not too fussed about outright performance and handling dymanics, so if might fit the bill as something a little different. Or would it just be another small car that's just like every other?
Any thoughts anyone?
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We have had 2 GTEs in my company. They are great for company users as Company car tax is mega low. However they really aren’t that sporty, handling is more standard Golf than GTD or GTI standard and when running on the petrol engine they are just like any other Golf.
All in all the GTE is great as I say for a cheap company car but for private use it’s hard to see the benefit as the battery is run out after 20 miles.
And one of ours is currently with VW head office due to a recurring fault where it doesn’t start. Been off the road over 6 weeks of this year already. Local dealers have no one trained to work on the high voltage system so it’s been transported back to Milton Keynes to get fixed.
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So in conclusion, buy a GTD, GTI or R as they are a lot more special but still not outstanding if that is what you desire.
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We had one here at my work.
Feedback was that the fully electric range wasn't even suitable for short range commuting (~20 miles), the charging takes forever. On petrol only its a gasping little petrol engine trying to push a battery heavy mid sized car. On leccy+petrol mode, its a bit better but it handles more like an entry level golf than a GTI. If you really want it to suck, try charging the battery from the petrol engine while driving... sub 20mpg and zero engine power.
The only plus side is that if its a company car, the tax rates are low.
If you want to play that game, get one of the Merc hybrids - you can have a proper 200+ bhp petrol engine with the electrical stuff only there to fool the taxman.
Hybrids are a blind alley in automotive tech and I'd be surprised to see them have any residual value in 5 years.
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Got to agree with Fred. I reckon selling a GTE in a few years will be hard work. All that technology ready to go wrong and batteries threatening to expire will put off most buyers. And the current issues with our car would be mega expensive if the car was out of warranty.
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Needs another 50 horses and a far better range, will probably get that in the 'shape' of the Mark 8. Current and delayed facelift GTE seems totally pointless with such a dreadful range. Bloody expensive shopping trolley. Better options out there IMO.
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This GTE seems like a bit of false marketing if it doesn't handle or drive like the rest of the GT range
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This GTE seems like a bit of false marketing if it doesn't handle or drive like the rest of the GT range
you do know there’s a gt all on its own, as in not gti/gtd, just a gt and the gte may be a spin off off that, but then I prefer a gt tdi to a gtd
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From what I read electric mk8 Golf is going to be a real alternative to petrol and will make diesel redundant . Suggested range will be 250 miles plus so for most that will be a charge a week .
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Utterly pointless car.
Just a political Golf model for company car drivers.
It looks pretty but has no other redeeming features compared to much better models (that cost less) in the range.
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From what I read electric mk8 Golf is going to be a real alternative to petrol and will make diesel redundant . Suggested range will be 250 miles plus so for most that will be a charge a week .
That might be useful... the range certainly would be... but pure electric needs:
a) a fast charging system - sub 30 mins
b) A large network of publicly accessible charging points
And point A is easier to achieve than point B.
Until someone standardises the charging system and government deploys the charging network, it will still be a toy for short range jollies.
Besides which, its not even going to impact the actual main polluters!
Real change is expensive.
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All good points there and all taken on board. Perhaps there is no Golf that will spark any enthusiasm for me anymore. I might go and see what Volvo have to offer.
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From what I read electric mk8 Golf is going to be a real alternative to petrol and will make diesel redundant . Suggested range will be 250 miles plus so for most that will be a charge a week .
That might be useful... the range certainly would be... but pure electric needs:
a) a fast charging system - sub 30 mins
b) A large network of publicly accessible charging points
And point A is easier to achieve than point B.
Until someone standardises the charging system and government deploys the charging network, it will still be a toy for short range jollies.
Besides which, its not even going to impact the actual main polluters!
Real change is expensive.
they can't even get fast internet to ppl, so i wouldn't think they'll be sorting a charging network anytime soon :(
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All good points there and all taken on board. Perhaps there is no Golf that will spark any enthusiasm for me anymore. I might go and see what Volvo have to offer.
You'd only regret that.
I ended up feeling the same about Golfs, around 30 years of them on and off made me very blasé about it all and I ended up selling my R before I spent any more money on a car I no longer used.
Big mistake!
I tried a GTD too (only because of the massive discounts available on the last of line mk7's). A good car in its own right and very quick with a DTUK box, but just lacked something.
Then I got a Clubsport 'just for the hell of it' and I haven't looked back.
I still miss my R for the fantastic all rounder that it was but there is still one Golf that sparks a bit of enthusiasm in me.
If the Clubsport is the last Golf I ever own I'll be happy with that. I've spent my whole adult life with a Golf of some sort never far away from me and became very non plussed about it all. The Clubsport put that spark back.
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I think if you want something fun you've got to look away from family hatchbacks and into something less practical... GT86 would be my first port of call or if you have some serious dollar, wait for the new Supra. Maybe that Fiat sportscar might be worth a punt too.
Unfortunately my Golf is a do it all workhorse. I need practical first and as much fun as I can get second and lastly not breaking the bank in purchase or running costs. I think thats why the performance Golfs always have won so heavily, because they are 90% of all of those things.
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I looked hard at GTE (and other similar cars such as A3 E-Tron, BMW i3 and Hyundai Ioniq) but rejected them all as compromised in terms of weight and complexity. I think the future for this type of car is limited and will be a difficult sell in coming years.
I have ordered an electric car, but it replaces my other car and I will be keeping the GTi as I don’t believe the electric charging infrastructure will be useful for many years...if ever.
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I did look very briefly at the GTE prior to ordering my GTD, but decided the 20 mile electric range was utterly pointless for my commute. Shame, as there were some quite tempting lease deals around before they temporarily closed the order books.
Thinking back though, reckon a 1.5TSi Evo in R Line trim would have been a better bet than the GTE for my commute if it weren't for the stingy standard equipment.
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I think if you want something fun you've got to look away from family hatchbacks and into something less practical... GT86 would be my first port of call or if you have some serious dollar, wait for the new Supra. Maybe that Fiat sportscar might be worth a punt too.
Unfortunately my Golf is a do it all workhorse. I need practical first and as much fun as I can get second and lastly not breaking the bank in purchase or running costs. I think thats why the performance Golfs always have won so heavily, because they are 90% of all of those things.
It's the car my wife uses mostly, so needs to be practical for lugging kids about. I think I'm just bored with Golfs having had one in one form or another, if you count a Mk1 Leon Cupra, since 1999.
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I considered a GTE and a GTD before settling on my GTI. I thought with my short commute and regular recharging I could travel almost entirely electric but having worked out the costs (not necessarily accurately) I didn't think it would actually work out all that cheap. Added to that the likely poor economy of dragging all the dead weight on a long drive of which we do many being at home holidaymakers, I dismissed it as being arse biscuits and only good for those business users who could cash in on the tax benefits. Next the GTD, I was sold on the economy and the extremely low ved but my short commute didn't seem to fit well with the dpf. So glad I went for the GTI, absolutely spot-on for me :smiley:
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I detest our 1.6TDI Match with a passion. It's just so dull, I won't drive it. My wife is happy enough with it, but in an 'it'll do' kind of way. I get my pleasure from my Amarok and on rare occasions my Mk2 GTI, but wondered if I'd get enthused a little more about a sportier Golf. I like the look of the GTE and am not too fussed about outright performance and handling dymanics, so if might fit the bill as something a little different. Or would it just be another small car that's just like every other?
Any thoughts anyone?
Totally academic as VW are not currently taking orders for the GTE. The order book closed in December with waiting time at least 9 months! It is not even on the Configurator.
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I detest our 1.6TDI Match with a passion. It's just so dull, I won't drive it. My wife is happy enough with it, but in an 'it'll do' kind of way. I get my pleasure from my Amarok and on rare occasions my Mk2 GTI, but wondered if I'd get enthused a little more about a sportier Golf. I like the look of the GTE and am not too fussed about outright performance and handling dymanics, so if might fit the bill as something a little different. Or would it just be another small car that's just like every other?
Any thoughts anyone?
Totally academic as VW are not currently taking orders for the GTE. The order book closed in December with waiting time at least 9 months! It is not even on the Configurator.
Maybe not academic, if the OP was thinking of buying an existing nearly new GTE.
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I don't buy new anymore. I haven't done for the last 10 years.
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A mate of mine bought the Gte back in 2015 he loves it especially eo and from work everyday and his weekly run to his caravan at Cleethorpes.
I drove it before I got my Gti because I knew that's what I wanted bt tbh o was impressed with how quick it was even with the extra weight put it in Gte mode and floor it you get thrown back and the kick down is good too.
Don't get me wrong if your wanting performance then a Gti or R but the Gte ticks alot of box's
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Just received an email saying that the Golf GTE re-opens for ordering on Thursday 10th October.
Bit late in the day with the Mk8 on the horizon, but you never know. Thought i'd share as info might be of interest to someone.
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How really damned weird.
I would have expected Mk7.5 orders to have closed by now... unless you order now and get the Mk8 which we have already seen in GTE guise.
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I read this article:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/how-much-ev-charging-and-running-cost/
I'd think twice about the GTE based on that - in fact unless I was trying to dodge BIK I'd avoid hybrids full stop.
I was also struck by the cost of the public charging points vs domestic electricity rates. I'd always assumed it was likely to have some profit involved but that's a lot of profit...
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https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/de/pressemitteilungen/exklusive-kleinserie-aus-wolfsburg-plug-in-hybrid-golf-gte-edition-ab-sofort-erhaeltlich-5427
German article. Helps if you have auto-translate. :nerd:
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https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/de/pressemitteilungen/exklusive-kleinserie-aus-wolfsburg-plug-in-hybrid-golf-gte-edition-ab-sofort-erhaeltlich-5427
German article. Helps if you have auto-translate. :nerd:
Actually looks good. But available in Germany only so not much use for us!
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Had my Polo GTI+ in for warranty work to get rid of a creaky rattle (new bump stops and top mount bearings on front suspension) and I saw a brand new e-Golf in the showroom. Oddly though, it had the old style ACC sensor in the front lower grille and an old front badge (not smooth) - any idea why?
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I thought the e golf was long gone? Id3 is the plug in electric thing now...
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e-Golf still going strong....at least until they've cleared the parts bin. Lots of cheap lease offers in recent weeks. :smiley:
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Had my Polo GTI+ in for warranty work to get rid of a creaky rattle (new bump stops and top mount bearings on front suspension) and I saw a brand new e-Golf in the showroom. Oddly though, it had the old style ACC sensor in the front lower grille and an old front badge (not smooth) - any idea why?
The Charging port is behind the badge on the e-Golf and GTE, so they can’t put the 7.5 ACC badge on it.
The 7.5 GTE also only has the 6speed DSG.
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Had my Polo GTI+ in for warranty work to get rid of a creaky rattle (new bump stops and top mount bearings on front suspension) and I saw a brand new e-Golf in the showroom. Oddly though, it had the old style ACC sensor in the front lower grille and an old front badge (not smooth) - any idea why?
The Charging port is behind the badge on the e-Golf and GTE, so they can’t put the 7.5 ACC badge on it.
The 7.5 GTE also only has the 6speed DSG.
Only the GTE has a charging port behind the badge. On the e-Golf it's behind the fuel filler door as there is no fuel tank. No idea why the e-Golf has the old style ACC sensor. :huh:
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Had my Polo GTI+ in for warranty work to get rid of a creaky rattle (new bump stops and top mount bearings on front suspension) and I saw a brand new e-Golf in the showroom. Oddly though, it had the old style ACC sensor in the front lower grille and an old front badge (not smooth) - any idea why?
The Charging port is behind the badge on the e-Golf and GTE, so they can’t put the 7.5 ACC badge on it.
The 7.5 GTE also only has the 6speed DSG.
Only the GTE has a charging port behind the badge. On the e-Golf it's behind the fuel filler door as there is no fuel tank. No idea why the e-Golf has the old style ACC sensor. :huh:
E golf assembled at a site (not Wolfsburg) where some VAG variants still use the old style sensor? I'm sure there are a few SEAT vehicles still using the old style sensor.