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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: CarbonGTD on 03 April 2018, 13:47

Title: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: CarbonGTD on 03 April 2018, 13:47
If you were to need to top up the engine oil level in your new Mk 7.5 GTI 230 and the two options on the shelf were 1) Castrol Edge III 5W 30 or 2) shiny new Mobil 1 0w 20 which would you go for?
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: pendulum1997 on 03 April 2018, 14:15
Is it not 5w30 or 5w40 that are the recommended oils? I've never seen anyone use 0w20.
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: SRGTD on 03 April 2018, 15:58
From VW’s website;

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/recommended-oil
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: CarbonGTD on 03 April 2018, 19:07
Yes - many thanks for the link SRG - I had been there - but it seems to say 'it depends'.  It says the new 0w 20 oil 'can only be used for specified engines' and then........doesn't specify which engines! It does say its for 'the new power units launched in 2016 and 2017' - so does that include the Mk 7.5 GTI 230..?

I'm none the wiser!
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: wantmygti on 03 April 2018, 19:45
Have you tried your owners manual??
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: SRGTD on 03 April 2018, 20:58
Have you tried your owners manual??

And if it’s not in the manual, suggest you speak to your dealer.

Poor communication on VW’s part not to state which the ‘specific engines’ are that can use the 0w-20 oil, although it does state in the item at the link I posted earlier;‘LongLife IV is not backwards compatible and should only be used in the engines for which it is recommended – Please check your vehicle handbook or contact or local Retailer for assistance’.

This suggests it should be in your owners manual.
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: DanDuda48 on 04 April 2018, 04:20
The oil standard VW 508.00 / 509.00 describes new smooth-running oils with specification SAE 0W-20. These oils are not backwards compatible, so they must not be used in older, unapproved engines! This oil can be used only in 2018 model year GTI, GTI PP petrol engines, but not “R” engines!
Some model year 2017 cars had partly false information in the manual (saying that it is compatible), so VW started to mark engines that cannot tolerate this oil since then with an appropriate sticker in the engine compartment.
In case of doubt, ask the dealer/workshop!
VW 504.00 / 507.00 is safe in any case for 2017 & 2018 model year cars.
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: andyb_123 on 04 April 2018, 06:52
From VW’s website;

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/recommended-oil

From that page: "If you wait till the warning light shows to top your oil, it's often too late"

Maybe they should make the oil light come on earlier so it isn't too late?
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: cossiegaz82 on 04 April 2018, 07:34
From VW’s website;

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/recommended-oil

From that page: "If you wait till the warning light shows to top your oil, it's often too late"

Maybe they should make the oil light come on earlier so it isn't too late?

It doesn't say which oil light. If it's the orange oil light then that is the oil level warning so should give plenty of opportunity to top up. If it's red, then yes, it's probably now dead! Lol!

The amount of people I go out to that have though the red light means it needs topping up is crazy! They just keep driving until it seizes despite it making horrid noises beforehand!

Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: a9wyn on 04 April 2018, 08:28
When I purchased my  MK7 Gti P/P there was a complimentary bottle of Mobil 1 oil in the side pouch in the boot. Just had the first (lubrication) service carried out, and left in the boot, in addition to the Mobil 1 oil was a bottle of Castrol Edge in a 'presentation' leather? case. So which one, if necessary, do you use? I assume, although I haven't checked, they both meet VW's spec. But I don't like mixing brands.
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: andyb_123 on 04 April 2018, 08:34
The amount of people I go out to that have though the red light means it needs topping up is crazy! They just keep driving until it seizes despite it making horrid noises beforehand!

 :grin:

Also, now you mention the two lights, we used to fill up after the info panel said to do so, so not really a 'light' but just a warning message. For clarity we are not so cruel to our car that we'd drive it till it seizes up totally!

Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: SRGTD on 04 April 2018, 08:57
The amount of people I go out to that have though the red light means it needs topping up is crazy! They just keep driving until it seizes despite it making horrid noises beforehand!

 :grin:

Also, now you mention the two lights, we used to fill up after the info panel said to do so, so not really a 'light' but just a warning message. For clarity we are not so cruel to our car that we'd drive it till it seizes up totally!

Do people really wait for a warning light or message to be displayed before checking / topping up the oil level? Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I manually check my oil level (and coolant level) every month and also check the tyre pressures at the same time. Better to be proactive, rather than reactive IMO.
Title: Re: Engine oil top up (Mk 7.5 GTI 230 manual)
Post by: cossiegaz82 on 04 April 2018, 11:31
The amount of people I go out to that have though the red light means it needs topping up is crazy! They just keep driving until it seizes despite it making horrid noises beforehand!

 :grin:

Also, now you mention the two lights, we used to fill up after the info panel said to do so, so not really a 'light' but just a warning message. For clarity we are not so cruel to our car that we'd drive it till it seizes up totally!

Do people really wait for a warning light or message to be displayed before checking / topping up the oil level? Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I manually check my oil level (and coolant level) every month and also check the tyre pressures at the same time. Better to be proactive, rather than reactive IMO.

No, most folk don't wait for a message to come up on the dash, they see the message, ignore it, the car breaks down (usually in a catastrophic fashion), they call us out, I turn up and they moan about how crap and unreliable the car as how it's going to cost a fortune to repair! Lol! Prevention is far better than a cure as they say!

Like the lady I went to the other day. Mercedes which failed to start after running out of Adblue. Got a warning that it wouldn't start after so many miles, ample warning to get it topped up but no, drove it until it ran out and wouldn't restart. Her excuse? 'I thought it was joking!!' Words unusually eluded me on that occasion!!  :rolleyes: