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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: andyb_123 on 27 March 2018, 15:16
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Just put the DSG lever into drive. It'll start the engine if need be!
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Do you not still have to turn the key though?
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Do you not still have to turn the key though?
not if you have a button, the key is in your pocket/purse/Center console
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Not quite sure what you are trying to say but, as said, you need the ignition on. To achieve that, you need to press the button without your foot on the brake. Even then, if you pull the dsg lever back, the engine will not start. Just to close the loop completely, the dsg lever will not move from park without the ignition on.
Is this a windup, or is it you who have been woundup? 😃
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Just a guess, but I'd say he's referring to the point where stop start has kicked in.
Could be wrong though, it's been known.
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Not a wind up. Ok I missed a couple of details :laugh:
So yes, if you stick the ignition is on (not sure what that means these days - but in the position where the entertainment and dials come on), and yes if you stick your foot on the brake first, then you don't need to turn the key to start the engine.
It's a small thing really, but it's one less thing to do when you want to head off, as you have to stick it in gear anyway.
What does the start button do except replace the "turn the key to start the engine" thing? If that's all it does, then what's the point of it in a DSG, as you don't need to turn the key to start the engine.
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My 2016 GTI with DSG does not do this.
Anyway, I still don't get how or why you are saying that the starter button is superfluous. You have to push it to turn on the ignition, or start the engine - period.
Somehow, I still think you're winding me/us up! What car have you got that does this?
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My 2016 GTI with DSG does not do this.
Anyway, I still don't get how or why you are saying that the starter button is superfluous. You have to push it to turn on the ignition, or start the engine - period.
Somehow, I still think you're winding me/us up! What car have you got that does this?
Ours is a 7.5 GTi PP from last year with the 7 speed box.
What I'm saying is that our car does this:
Key in ignition, turned to "on" (so dials are working) -> Foot on brake -> Move DSG to D or R -> Engine turns on without turning key.
Maybe someone else can try it from the same age of car?
It might need the stop/start enabled (I thought that's on by default when you first start) and maybe our car had been left in "eco" mode - not sure if it does it in other driving modes.
But it's real.
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Not a keyless car then.
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That's what I was assuming. I think what the OP meant was if you were considering a car with DSG transmission and wanted Keyless to get you a starter button, he's saying you can start a non-keyless car without having to turn the key in the ignition past the ignition point. So long as the transmission is in Drive, apparently the engine will start without having to turn the key further ?
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Not a keyless car then.
No. But I think there's an option to have a start button in the cabin. I'm saying that if you have DSG, there's no point to having this button, as the car stops the engine by itself anyway, and turns the engine on when you move it into gear. Maybe that's true of manuals too? Not sure.
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No it's not true and you can't start the car no matter if it's keyless or with key by just putting it into gear. If yours does this then it probably shouldn't.
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I was going to say that it makes absolutely no sense for a car to start if put in gear with the DSG.
Also why anybody would think this is a good idea is beyond me! :shocked:
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No it's not true and you can't start the car no matter if it's keyless or with key by just putting it into gear. If yours does this then it probably shouldn't.
Agree, thought it was a WUM. How dangerous would that be?? There has to be a physical intent to start the car in P whatever key/push button.
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Looking at OP other posts it sounds like it's the start stop function he's talking about.
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:huh:
Even if this is true (and I wouldn't know as I'm keyless) you've still gotta put the key in and turn it half way which is more hassle than pressing a button and I don't have to worry where my keys are. Plus you have the added benefit of just tapping the handle and walking away.
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:huh:
Even if this is true (and I wouldn't know as I'm keyless) you've still gotta put the key in and turn it half way which is more hassle than pressing a button and I don't have to worry where my keys are. Plus you have the added benefit of just tapping the handle and walking away.
Does the push start button not need you to put the key in? I thought it was something you could order even without keyless. If so, then it's a moot point anyway.
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Nope key in pocket, grab the door handle and it unlocks, put foot on brake, get in press the button and it starts, press button it stops, get out and touch the outside of the handle it will lock, key in pocket all the time
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Just confirmed that you can't order a push button start on its own without keyless - comes with keyless only. So My valuable advice is no use at all. Sorry!
No it's not true and you can't start the car no matter if it's keyless or with key by just putting it into gear. If yours does this then it probably shouldn't.
Why shouldn't it? What harm can it do? The car won't move as you had to put your foot on the brake to move it into gear.
The car starts itself without even moving any lever if the car stopped the engine in traffic and the car in front moves off - in both that instance and the thing I'm talking about, you've got your foot on the brake anyway, so you're not going anywhere.
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You've got the entire thread completely wrong. The whole point of keyless entry is to have the key in your pocket as vwjap has said. You're going on about the car starting when you put it in gear which it won't do unless you've actually turned it on in the first place. Once you're away and driving and under start stop conditions then yes the engine will stop and then restart when you touch the accelerator. You don't have keyless so you need to put your key in the ignition to turn your car on unless I've missed something!
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I was never talking about keyless. I was under the (now wrong) impression that you could order a push button start as an option - separate from keyless. I thought all it did was a gimmicky alternative to twisting the key to turn the engine.
Anyway - wish I hadn't started this now :-)
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😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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Fair play, we’ve all got the wrong end of the stick at some point. Life rolls on...
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I was never talking about keyless. I was under the (now wrong) impression that you could order a push button start as an option - separate from keyless. I thought all it did was a gimmicky alternative to twisting the key to turn the engine.
Anyway - wish I hadn't started this now :-)
No worries, if you don't ask you never know :smiley:
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I was never talking about keyless. I was under the (now wrong) impression that you could order a push button start as an option - separate from keyless.
I think thats an Audi thing. My upcoming A4 needs keyfob button press to open the doors but once inside you just use the start button to start the engine(no ignition keyhole). Is not something VW offer on the Golf.
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After a quick read through this I feel like I'm on drugs.
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After a quick read through this I feel like I'm on drugs.
At least it had some use in the end :grin: