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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: deltarikk on 27 February 2018, 20:42
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Hi all, I'm looking to possibly stick a set of Santiagos on my CS ED40 but am lacking some knowledge (in many things in life :laugh: ) in the alloy wheel sizes/offsets department!!
I think my 19" Prets are an 8" width but have got this info from the VW promo stuff for the CS which referred to one wheel option being the Prets with the semi slick Michelins CS2's 235/35/19 which is what I have. Am I right in thinking that I could fit a set of 19 x 7.5 with same size tyre but the critical info that I need is the ET measurement so that they clear the calipers ok?
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There’s a good website willtheyfit.com which lets our compare sizes and offsets
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Prets are 19x8.0 ET50. Santiagos are 19x7.5 ET51 which is exactly the same as the Brescia wheel, a factory option on the Clubsport so they should clear the calipers fine.
The only question here is the 235 tire width on a 7.5 wheel, generally 235 is the max recommended width on a 7.5 wheel, and it will probably give slightly less "direct" feeling and maybe minor "baloon look" but it's still on the allowable side.
PS. Are you selling your Pretorias? I am about to order a new summer wheel set and Prets were always high up my list but could not find a reasonably priced set in glossy black. If yours are drop me a PM.
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Santiagos have a 225 width tyre on them from the factory.
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Santiagos have a 225 width tyre on them from the factory.
Agreed I have 19" santis with 225 width P zeros :whistle:
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There’s a good website willtheyfit.com which lets our compare sizes and offsets
Thanks for that mk, will have a look
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Prets are 19x8.0 ET50. Santiagos are 19x7.5 ET51 which is exactly the same as the Brescia wheel, a factory option on the Clubsport so they should clear the calipers fine.
The only question here is the 235 tire width on a 7.5 wheel, generally 235 is the max recommended width on a 7.5 wheel, and it will probably give slightly less "direct" feeling and maybe minor "baloon look" but it's still on the allowable side.
PS. Are you selling your Pretorias? I am about to order a new summer wheel set and Prets were always high up my list but could not find a reasonably priced set in glossy black. If yours are drop me a PM.
Cheers for that mate, very helpful :wink:....I was planning on keeping the prets which are the black ones but similar to yourself I'm contemplating having a second set to alternate summer/winter. I had a set of winter contact 850 Conti's fitted and have to say they're bloody amazing!! :shocked: really surprised at how good they are, never had winter tyres before but I'm now a convert!
I'll give it a bit more thought about Santiago/Brescia options, I quite like both and wanted to stick to gen VW option
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@ mc & gt thanks for confirming guys :wink:
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Prets are 19x8.0 ET50. Santiagos are 19x7.5 ET51 which is exactly the same as the Brescia wheel, a factory option on the Clubsport so they should clear the calipers fine.
The only question here is the 235 tire width on a 7.5 wheel, generally 235 is the max recommended width on a 7.5 wheel, and it will probably give slightly less "direct" feeling and maybe minor "baloon look" but it's still on the allowable side.
PS. Are you selling your Pretorias? I am about to order a new summer wheel set and Prets were always high up my list but could not find a reasonably priced set in glossy black. If yours are drop me a PM.
Cheers for that mate, very helpful :wink:....I was planning on keeping the prets which are the black ones but similar to yourself I'm contemplating having a second set to alternate summer/winter. I had a set of winter contact 850 Conti's fitted and have to say they're bloody amazing!! :shocked: really surprised at how good they are, never had winter tyres before but I'm now a convert!
I'll give it a bit more thought about Santiago/Brescia options, I quite like both and wanted to stick to gen VW option
Makes sense. But imho Prets should be your nice summer set! Also no reason really to run 19's for winter but you say you got the tires already so...
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Brescias seem a bit of a bargain new: https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/golf-vii-7-wheels.htm
Half the price of Santiagos and being original to the CS will look right.
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Prets are 19x8.0 ET50. Santiagos are 19x7.5 ET51 which is exactly the same as the Brescia wheel, a factory option on the Clubsport so they should clear the calipers fine.
The only question here is the 235 tire width on a 7.5 wheel, generally 235 is the max recommended width on a 7.5 wheel, and it will probably give slightly less "direct" feeling and maybe minor "baloon look" but it's still on the allowable side.
PS. Are you selling your Pretorias? I am about to order a new summer wheel set and Prets were always high up my list but could not find a reasonably priced set in glossy black. If yours are drop me a PM.
Cheers for that mate, very helpful :wink:....I was planning on keeping the prets which are the black ones but similar to yourself I'm contemplating having a second set to alternate summer/winter. I had a set of winter contact 850 Conti's fitted and have to say they're bloody amazing!! :shocked: really surprised at how good they are, never had winter tyres before but I'm now a convert!
I'll give it a bit more thought about Santiago/Brescia options, I quite like both and wanted to stick to gen VW option
Makes sense. But imho Prets should be your nice summer set! Also no reason really to run 19's for winter but you say you got the tires already so...
Fair point, the black Prets do very much suit the car providing a good contrast with the red calipers ......there is an external influencing factor possibly affecting my cunning plan.......she's at work at the moment! :laugh:
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Brescias seem a bit of a bargain new: https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/golf-vii-7-wheels.htm
Half the price of Santiagos and being original to the CS will look right.
Thanks watts, thats a really good price!....the Santiagos I was looking at are a full reconditioned set, which judging by pics look top quality, these Brescias are not much more and I do like the angle design on the spokes, might drop them email, cheers :wink:
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Brescias seem a bit of a bargain new: https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/golf-vii-7-wheels.htm
Half the price of Santiagos and being original to the CS will look right.
Thanks watts, thats a really good price!....the Santiagos I was looking at are a full reconditioned set, which judging by pics look top quality, these Brescias are not much more and I do like the angle design on the spokes, might drop them email, cheers :wink:
If I were you I'd go for the Brescias.
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Brescias seem a bit of a bargain new: https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/golf-vii-7-wheels.htm
Half the price of Santiagos and being original to the CS will look right.
Thanks watts, thats a really good price!....the Santiagos I was looking at are a full reconditioned set, which judging by pics look top quality, these Brescias are not much more and I do like the angle design on the spokes, might drop them email, cheers :wink:
If I were you I'd go for the Brescias.
Ditto
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I like those Brescias. I'm thinking of 18" Cadiz as a winter set on my gti pp.
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Another vote for Brescias.
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Thanks for feedback guys, I think the Brescias are the right one's, I've dropped an email to Kunzmann from link kindly posted earlier......only other decision is the tyres, seems to be 225 is the correct width for the 7.5 wheel, maybe look to move on the Michelins CS2's ....the likelihood of me hitting a track is remote although the likelihood of me getting hit by the wife if I ever did is quite high.. :tongue:
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Thanks for feedback guys, I think the Brescias are the right one's, I've dropped an email to Kunzmann from link kindly posted earlier......only other decision is the tyres, seems to be 225 is the correct width for the 7.5 wheel, maybe look to move on the Michelins CS2's ....the likelihood of me hitting a track is remote although the likelihood of me getting hit by the wife if I ever did is quite high.. :tongue:
I'd go for PS4S if you're not going on track.
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Thanks for feedback guys, I think the Brescias are the right one's, I've dropped an email to Kunzmann from link kindly posted earlier......only other decision is the tyres, seems to be 225 is the correct width for the 7.5 wheel, maybe look to move on the Michelins CS2's ....the likelihood of me hitting a track is remote although the likelihood of me getting hit by the wife if I ever did is quite high.. :tongue:
I'd go for PS4S if you're not going on track.
I've just recently changed to PS4S's (225/35/19) on my Brescia's and they do have much more grip in wet or dry conditions than the P-Zero's they replaced. Sh1te in this snow though but I knew that before I bought them...
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Funnily enough I was looking on Blackcircles site yesterday and the PS4S gets great reviews, thanks for advice both....I dont mind paying more for quality rubber
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Prets are 19x8.0 ET50. Santiagos are 19x7.5 ET51 which is exactly the same as the Brescia wheel, a factory option on the Clubsport so they should clear the calipers fine.
The only question here is the 235 tire width on a 7.5 wheel, generally 235 is the max recommended width on a 7.5 wheel, and it will probably give slightly less "direct" feeling and maybe minor "baloon look" but it's still on the allowable side.
PS. Are you selling your Pretorias? I am about to order a new summer wheel set and Prets were always high up my list but could not find a reasonably priced set in glossy black. If yours are drop me a PM.
Cheers for that mate, very helpful :wink:....I was planning on keeping the prets which are the black ones but similar to yourself I'm contemplating having a second set to alternate summer/winter. I had a set of winter contact 850 Conti's fitted and have to say they're bloody amazing!! :shocked: really surprised at how good they are, never had winter tyres before but I'm now a convert!
I'll give it a bit more thought about Santiago/Brescia options, I quite like both and wanted to stick to gen VW option
Makes sense. But imho Prets should be your nice summer set! Also no reason really to run 19's for winter but you say you got the tires already so...
If I was the OP and I was going to use the Prets as the summer set. I wouldn’t be thinking of getting a set of diamond cut Santiagos or Brescias for winter use. Powder coated finish is better and more durable for winter use than a diamond cut finish. In fact, I’ve seen some aftermarket alloy wheel retailers’ websites state diamond cut alloys aren’t suitable for winter use.
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If I'd planned my options a little more then I could well have got a different set for the winter and kept the Prets just for summer but now having the winter tyres on in same size as the original Michelin semi slicks I'm happy to keep them as is.
The more I've looked at the Brescia's the more I like them and quite like the idea of having a different look for summer months....obviously our summers can be rather wet and have decided to go for a tyre with a bit more tread to deal with this but also be good enough in the dry to have some fun......when I'm on my own :whistle:
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If I was the OP and I was going to use the Prets as the summer set. I wouldn’t be thinking of getting a set of diamond cut Santiagos or Brescias for winter use. Powder coated finish is better and more durable for winter use than a diamond cut finish. In fact, I’ve seen some aftermarket alloy wheel retailers’ websites state diamond cut alloys aren’t suitable for winter use.
Spot on.
Most marques now sell their cars with polished alloys which is understandable from a retailing point of view in Europe where they either don't need to grit roads very often in warmer climes or legally have to fit winter wheels and tyres for a good proportion of the year.
Polished alloys have been all the rage since the mk5 Golf GTI kicked off the trend with the Monza II wheels and their popularity seems to be ubiquitous now with most marques and wheel producers as the polished alloy looks fantastic when hit by sunlight or street lights/showroom lights. The coloured contrast painted sections add to the style of the wheel too.
But these are really summer only wheels.
Any of the big wheel retailers will sell polished alloys as summer only use, their winter ranges consist of powder coat finishes for durability.
A second hand set of powder coated Santiagos could be an option but personally I'd go aftermarket 19" wheels for winter use unless I could pick up a second hand set of Pretorias.
I'd even consider Pretoria replicas for winter only use as they surely can't be any more prone to buckles than the factory ones which aren't that great on our pothole scarred roads. At least the reps will be cheap to replace when the inevitable happens.