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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: scanesare on 07 January 2018, 11:07
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Lately with the extra cold here (nothing too extreme, night temp between -3 and 0 deg C) whenever I set off in the morning I hear a rather noticeable bang/clunk when the brakes first disengage from their parking position. Car is always left at P and with Auto Hold and Handbrake On, DSG6.
I had a DSG7 car before that also used to park in similarly cold (in fact colder) temps during the night and I never got to hear any sound like that. Is it just a feature of these cars? If it's normal, surely others that park their cars in outside places or garages must have heard it as well. Is there maybe something I can do to avoid it like not engaging the handbrake but just leave it in P? (I could do that as there is no inclination in my garage). Does it even hurt the brakes at all?
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Mine does it every now & again, mostly if I’ve washed it the day before or it’s been raining, it’s just the brakes pads releasing from the discs I think
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Yep, same here as above. Usually after it’s been parked up all night or a few hours after a wash or it’s rained. Soon dissipates.
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Apologies for the thread hijack but is there any way of parking a DSG without the auto handbrake engaging?
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Apologies for the thread hijack but is there any way of parking a DSG without the auto handbrake engaging?
I would think it's the same as a manual. Stop the car and turn it off and then turn the ignition on(don't start it) foot on brake and pull the handbrake to disengage it then turn car off again.
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The noise is just it breaking free. Hot discs and calipers and water and it's instant oxidisation binding them together. Look at the discs, covered in rust... (gone after a few dabs of the brakes though once moving)
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That's right, I've noticed it after washes as well. Maybe applying the brakes hard just before parking helps reduce this? Just wondered how it's different to my DSG7 car that by the way had a traditional handbrake, not an electronic one.
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Apologies for the thread hijack but is there any way of parking a DSG without the auto handbrake engaging?
Not that I know of. You have to put the gearbox into P on a DSG, before you can switch the ignition off, and that engages the brake. It won’t allow the ignition to be shut off without it being in P and therefore brake being activated.
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Apologies for the thread hijack but is there any way of parking a DSG without the auto handbrake engaging?
Not that I know of. You have to put the gearbox into P on a DSG, before you can switch the ignition off, and that engages the brake. It won’t allow the ignition to be shut off without it being in P and therefore brake being activated.
Mine never engages? I never leave the parking brake on in the garage especially if it’s after a wash for the above reason. It will engage if I open the door before turning off the engine but otherwise it doesn’t.
Could this be because I have auto hold off?
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Apologies for the thread hijack but is there any way of parking a DSG without the auto handbrake engaging?
Not that I know of. You have to put the gearbox into P on a DSG, before you can switch the ignition off, and that engages the brake. It won’t allow the ignition to be shut off without it being in P and therefore brake being activated.
Mine never engages? I never leave the parking brake on in the garage especially if it’s after a wash for the above reason. It will engage if I open the door before turning off the engine but otherwise it doesn’t.
Really? Mine engages when ignition goes off I’m sure and get the red symbol on the dis and orange light on the button. I’ve not once had to manually put the electronic handbrake on since owning the car. Will double check next time but away from car atm though.
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Apologies for the thread hijack but is there any way of parking a DSG without the auto handbrake engaging?
Not that I know of. You have to put the gearbox into P on a DSG, before you can switch the ignition off, and that engages the brake. It won’t allow the ignition to be shut off without it being in P and therefore brake being activated.
That's only the case if you use Auto Hold as far as I am aware. If Auto Hold is not active (via the button), the Parking Brake won't be applied automatically.
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Apologies for the thread hijack but is there any way of parking a DSG without the auto handbrake engaging?
Not that I know of. You have to put the gearbox into P on a DSG, before you can switch the ignition off, and that engages the brake. It won’t allow the ignition to be shut off without it being in P and therefore brake being activated.
That's only the case if you use Auto Hold as far as I am aware. If Auto Hold is not active (via the button), the Parking Brake won't be applied automatically.
Yes that’s it, as I permanently have autohold on. Not touched the parking brake since I got the car. The two work superbly together imo.
Apologies for causing confusion.
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It will engage only if AutoHold is on (both on manual and DSG).
If that's off you can turn ignition off all you want and it won't come on automatically.
Personally I let it clunk, not really doing it serious damage (I've covered 160k miles in mk7s). Wouldn't want to miss the comfort of AH and EPB.
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Parking brake is separate to the dsg Park position. When I park my car in the garage, I do so with Autohold turned off, as it’s easier to make small movements just using the foot brake and no throttle. When I have positioned the car, I put dsg into Park and turn the engine off. The car is now held by the gearbox with the parking brake off.
I have had the parking brake jam on if I’ve left it engaged after washing the car.
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I was going to say same - I never use Auto Hold and just use the electronic parking brake like a mini manual handbrake.
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How has it jammed on?
DSG on P position puts gearbox in neutral and engages a locking pin - which can actually break, so on any auto I'd always use parking brake.
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How has it jammed on?
DSG on P position puts gearbox in neutral and engages a locking pin - which can actually break, so on any auto I'd always use parking brake.
The situation I am talking about is parked on the level, in the garage, so no risk of breaking anything. I have had the parking brake jam on, due to corrosion on the discs, when I left the car in the garage, after washing it, with the parking brake on. To disengage the parking brake I had to use quite a lot of throttle which, in the close confines of a garage, was a bit scary! I don't risk it any more. The parking brake seems to take a little more force to disengage in reverse than forwards.
On the wider question of the parking brake making a noise when disengaging, I have had 2 Mk7's, a MY14 GTD manual and my current MY16 GTI DSG. The character of the 2, in respect of the operation of Autohold, is very different. My GTD wasn't always totally jerk free on Autohold release, whereas the GTI is very smooth at all times. I'm guessing this could be down to fine adjustment on assembly or the brake characteristics due to material or bedding in. This difference does seem to be a feature of Mk7's, from comments on here.
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Without Autohold on I never had the EPB seize up (and the rears on my first mk7 were shocking - on my current one I had them replaced under warranty after a lot of moaning and when BCM died VW threw rear brakes in too to keep me calm), as in that I would have had to hit throttle to brake them free.
Maybe VW have changed the AH set up? I re-coded my ABS so it opens the brakes 'early', i.e. less throttle and this is a little smoother.
But I never had luxury of a garage so don't need to manoeuvre in close quarters (and I'd always reverse park it anyway).