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Title: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 17 December 2017, 17:14
I have come to the decision that i have to change my Clubsport for something else.... Im a little gutted but circumstances have changed here and the car just is not practical anymore.
Basically i now have to transport some relatives and I'm finding it very very awkward to get them in and out of the CS, the seats are a nightmare, also the wife just will not drive the car after almost having a smash in it...
So this week i will be looking to trade my CS in for a standard Golf... sad times but things change i suppose..
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: GTDING on 17 December 2017, 17:31
GTI or GTD? :smiley:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 17 December 2017, 17:34
Neither lol .... Ive had both in the past, see what I'm offered for the Clubsport by the dealer and what they have, most likely be a Standard Golf , deffo 5 door!! with standard seats....
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Watts on 17 December 2017, 17:37
I'll do a straight swap for mine... :whistle:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: golfdave on 17 December 2017, 17:42
Neither lol .... Ive had both in the past, see what I'm offered for the Clubsport by the dealer and what they have, most likely be a Standard Golf , deffo 5 door!! with standard seats....

The sports seats in my Golf are ok for my 80yr old mum to use as I drive her around as & when needed.

Way more comfort than CS or CCS....

Petrol engine max of 1.5lt 150PS & 250Nm....GT spec with multilink rear & leave in sport mode & only use shell vpower..

That's as close as you will get to a "quick" non GTI....

everything else is slower or heavier (diesel)
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Eccie on 17 December 2017, 17:44
Oh dear Sounds like white flag time - Golf SV  :laugh:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: GTDING on 17 December 2017, 17:51
Neither lol .... Ive had both in the past, see what I'm offered for the Clubsport by the dealer and what they have, most likely be a Standard Golf , deffo 5 door!! with standard seats....

Tiguan? Might be worth a look, if more space and comfort is required. Lots of room there and close to Golf on safety. Not got 'post collision' though, only pre-crash. All Mk 7 Golf's have both and Golf does a tad better in the NCAP tests. Bit like driving a high up Golf and really comfortable seats! You get Golf like interior and same quality of materials/build. New one for 2018 gets the Golf 7.5's bigger Infotainment screen too..
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: golfdave on 17 December 2017, 17:52
Oh dear Sounds like white flag time - Golf SV  :laugh:

Almost bought one when they first came out....

the estate had more length for skis & they don't hit my elbow...infact they don't come further than the back of my seat....SV on the other hand they were in way when changing gear....but that car is 9inches shorter than the estate which is about 1ft longer than hatch.

SV in GT spec is ok on lower suspenson so less body roll, BUT not a "golf" so parts are more unique as uses octavia length +50mm in wheelbase....insurance is higher & spec for spec it costs way more than the Golf hatch or estate....

SV is more slide across & sit up & beg & not drop down into...still good but not a drivers car compared to basic golf or estate..

Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 17 December 2017, 17:56
I'll check out the Golf 7.5 gt , I'm sure theres one of those on offer for me .
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 17 December 2017, 18:47
Don't suppose you would be interested in a spotless GTD  :smiley:

I had my sister's Clubsport lined up for March April time by she is now talking about how much she loves it :angry: and that she might keep it when her new car turns up. Obviously my car would have a fair few beer tokens in the glove box

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Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: CHB100 on 17 December 2017, 19:08
I'll check out the Golf 7.5 gt , I'm sure theres one of those on offer for me .

Seriously, my wife has a Mk7 GTI 5 Door, Leather seats and often takes our elderly 92 year old female neighbour in it without any problem, in fact she used to transport her 100+ year old husband also, and believe me they are not exactly sprightly!!
Another trick we were told at a hospital was to put a supermarket bag flat on the seat so they can swivel themselves out. It worked for our mother-in-law after she had a hip replacement.
I honestly don't think you need anything other than a 5 door GTI!! with DCC for comfort maybe.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Booth11 on 17 December 2017, 19:14
I have my parents (both in their 80s) in my 5 door R quite often, and they are fine with it - find it very easy to get in and out of and very comfortable, and I don’t even put the DCC (19s) on comfort (yes, I’m mean like that, lol). 
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 17 December 2017, 19:15
Yea i will have to see what they offer, i'll take a few options out for a spin... not sure on the mpg on the gti these days, i know my club sport is costing me £25 every time i need to go to the clinic. plus having to squeeze my nan past the recaros is not fun.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: JoeGTI on 17 December 2017, 19:28
Is the CS a 3 door?
The 3 doors and those bucket seats are your problem. Just not a combination to have if you require any level of practicality.
A 5 door GTI would suit you just fine. It’s not like the “GT” model is any more practical.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 17 December 2017, 19:36
Yea 3 door with the reccaro seats, the only drawback between gt and gti would be mpg's
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Daz Auto on 17 December 2017, 19:40
My Granny used to like my Dad's Disco because it had handles to hold onto when she was getting in and out.

We recently had an Audi Q2 for a week. Because it's an compact SUV, you don't have to lower yourself down as you get into it. Just plant your bottom on the seat and rotate in. The father-in-law liked it as he had a hip done. Though I'm not sure there is as much room in the back as the Golf. I sat in a Tiguan and it seems much bigger.

Have you considered a T-Roc?
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: golfdave on 17 December 2017, 20:03
Yea 3 door with the reccaro seats, the only drawback between gt and gti would be mpg's
So the second person on this forum who bought the Recaros & realised they were not practical....


I could see that from a mile away FFS... :smug:


& the MPG is NOT the only difference between the GT & GTI..........1.5lt 150PS is maximum petrol size you get in GT spec.....

Remind me what's a GTI engine size & capacity...????..... :whistle:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: scanesare on 17 December 2017, 21:37
Yea 3 door with the reccaro seats, the only drawback between gt and gti would be mpg's
So the second person on this forum who bought the Recaros & realised they were not practical....


I could see that from a mile away FFS... :smug:

You mean you could see from a mile away through your crystal sphere that showed he's going to need to regularly transport people in the near future?   :grin:

Seriously, the OP clearly stated he's gutted and that only wants to change the car due to unforeseen circumstances, not because he found the seats are uncomfortable or anything like that so your assumption that a "second person in the forum found them not practical" is flawed and in fact  I don't even get what you're trying to prove. The CS buckets are one of the most comfortable bucket seats out there currently. And I don't mean for race drivers but everyday people like us that find for example the Ford RS buckets tiresome. If you like/want a bucket seat, the CS Recaros are a dream. Amazingly comfortable on long journeys, yet very supportive and looking the business. Exact same design as Audi RS4 B7 Recaros which are also highly sought after but may I say, with an even tastier styling that matches the GTI pattern excellent, compared to plain black leather on the Audi.

His biggest problem is the 3-door version. CS rear seats are no less comfortable than any other Golf so unless he has to carry someone with feet difficulties at the front seat all the time he would have been ok with a 5 door I reckon. I lived with a 3-door car for 2 years without even having children at the time and I can't say I'm not feeling him.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: CHB100 on 17 December 2017, 23:05
Oh! I thought the priority was a more practical car for your current situation, not MPG?
A 5door GTI will be better MPG than your current 3door recaro CS.
Or maybe another make entirely would suit all the criteria.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: CHB100 on 17 December 2017, 23:07
I have my parents (both in their 80s) in my 5 door R quite often, and they are fine with it - find it very easy to get in and out of and very comfortable, and I don’t even put the DCC (19s) on comfort (yes, I’m mean like that, lol).

They’re probably too nice or scared to complain  :wink:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Booth11 on 17 December 2017, 23:10
I have my parents (both in their 80s) in my 5 door R quite often, and they are fine with it - find it very easy to get in and out of and very comfortable, and I don’t even put the DCC (19s) on comfort (yes, I’m mean like that, lol).

They’re probably too nice or scared to complain  :wink:

It’s the latter.  :grin:  And they still like a thrill.  When I go to visit them (in West Yorkshire) they love nothing more than a hair-raising drive over Snake Pass in the R.  :cool:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Arnold_Lane on 18 December 2017, 07:07
I have my parents (both in their 80s) in my 5 door R quite often, and they are fine with it - find it very easy to get in and out of and very comfortable, and I don’t even put the DCC (19s) on comfort (yes, I’m mean like that, lol).

They’re probably too nice or scared to complain  :wink:

It’s the latter.  :grin:  And they still like a thrill.  When I go to visit them (in West Yorkshire) they love nothing more than a hair-raising drive over Snake Pass in the R.  :cool:

That should probably speed up your inheritance!!
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Booth11 on 18 December 2017, 08:10
I have my parents (both in their 80s) in my 5 door R quite often, and they are fine with it - find it very easy to get in and out of and very comfortable, and I don’t even put the DCC (19s) on comfort (yes, I’m mean like that, lol).

They’re probably too nice or scared to complain  :wink:

It’s the latter.  :grin:  And they still like a thrill.  When I go to visit them (in West Yorkshire) they love nothing more than a hair-raising drive over Snake Pass in the R.  :cool:

That should probably speed up your inheritance!!

 :shocked:  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: dubber36 on 18 December 2017, 10:23
Just get an Amarok. Seriously, it's the most practical MPV/SUV/DoeverythingV you could ever want. It's bloody good fun too. It's big, but it's easy peasy to park due to excellent visibility, big mirrors, sensors and a camera. It's not fast, but it doesn't need to be. Your driving mindset changes when you are in such a vehicle.

My parents are both in their 80's and get in and out with less trouble than they do in the Golf, and love the views from the elevated seating position.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: CHB100 on 18 December 2017, 12:32
Just get an Amarok. Seriously, it's the most practical MPV/SUV/DoeverythingV you could ever want. It's bloody good fun too. It's big, but it's easy peasy to park due to excellent visibility, big mirrors, sensors and a camera. It's not fast, but it doesn't need to be. Your driving mindset changes when you are in such a vehicle.

My parents are both in their 80's and get in and out with less trouble than they do in the Golf, and love the views from the elevated seating position.

Or both maybe, then you have to be very rich I guess. So only for the 'select' few with money trees :laugh:
The names are changed to protect the innocent.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: kalimon on 18 December 2017, 12:40
Just get an Amarok. Seriously, it's the most practical MPV/SUV/DoeverythingV you could ever want. It's bloody good fun too. It's big, but it's easy peasy to park due to excellent visibility, big mirrors, sensors and a camera. It's not fast, but it doesn't need to be. Your driving mindset changes when you are in such a vehicle.

My parents are both in their 80's and get in and out with less trouble than they do in the Golf, and love the views from the elevated seating position.
I'd love an Amarok but they are mighty expensive :shocked:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Booth11 on 18 December 2017, 13:26
Just get an Amarok. Seriously, it's the most practical MPV/SUV/DoeverythingV you could ever want. It's bloody good fun too. It's big, but it's easy peasy to park due to excellent visibility, big mirrors, sensors and a camera. It's not fast, but it doesn't need to be. Your driving mindset changes when you are in such a vehicle.

My parents are both in their 80's and get in and out with less trouble than they do in the Golf, and love the views from the elevated seating position.

It's not an obvious choice, but you're not wrong Simon. They probably get overlooked due to their utility nature.  I haven't forgotten you calling me a redneck when we got ours.  :tongue:  Seems like you are a fully paid up member yourself now and recruiting.  :grin:

They are unbelievably easy to get into. 
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: dubber36 on 18 December 2017, 13:45
They are expensive if you buy them new, which is why I didn't. There are often very reasonably lease dealers from the likes of Vanarama if you keep your eyes open.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: fredgroves on 18 December 2017, 13:55
Are they easy to get into really?

At work we have a Warrior pickup we use for various big maintenance jobs and I actually struggle to get into it easily. Its just a bit too high! My elderly parents definitely wouldn't get into that any easier than they do with my GTD (which btw they also struggle with, trying to get over the seat bolsters! I have to pull them out!)
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Booth11 on 18 December 2017, 17:59
Are they easy to get into really?

At work we have a Warrior pickup we use for various big maintenance jobs and I actually struggle to get into it easily. Its just a bit too high! My elderly parents definitely wouldn't get into that any easier than they do with my GTD (which btw they also struggle with, trying to get over the seat bolsters! I have to pull them out!)

Yes, the Amarok is surprisingly easy to get into. Just a step up onto the footbar, and then slide onto the seat. It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is.  The front seats have grab handles. 

My other half runs a Warrior as another of his company fleet (driven by one of his employees) and the Amarok is a different beast altogether. On another level.  At one point he was considering the Warrior so drove it for a week and disliked it intensely.  He then test drive an Amarok and loved it so bought a year old one.  Best vehicle he’s ever had.  It gets used for everything.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: TurboTrev on 18 December 2017, 18:26
My suggestion would be a 5 door Golf MK7 facelift R-Line TSI 150ps ACT.  Wife has the non facelift version and it's an excellent car.  Nice sporty spec, surprisingly nippy and and great MPG.
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 19 December 2017, 14:15
Ive got a 5 Door new Golf GT tsi to try out for the day, just had a nice 40 mile drive home in it and first thing is the seats are a lot more comfortable, obviously the car is not as quick as the CS, but it should be cheaper to run and keep insurance etc?
Will see what the wife thinks later..
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: golfdave on 19 December 2017, 17:28
Ive got a 5 Door new Golf GT tsi to try out for the day, just had a nice 40 mile drive home in it and first thing is the seats are a lot more comfortable, obviously the car is not as quick as the CS, but it should be cheaper to run and keep insurance etc?
Will see what the wife thinks later..

What I suggested earlier....& run on shell vpower only....as the two variable camshafts can make real use of it !!

Also run in "sport" mode all the time or use individual & set the steering & throttle to sport..


& insurance & running cost are way cheaper then CS....& I get 43mph (calibrated) & have the estate version with the older 140PS 1.4lt....but I know it makes circa 155PS as others with same engine & petrol have dyno'd 155PS
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 19 December 2017, 20:12
forgot to add i was also offered a GTE while i was there, very interesting....
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: scanesare on 19 December 2017, 21:06
When you say you found the seats more comfortable do you mean the actual sitting or the getting in/out part? If you mean the latter I can understand it as all buckets obviously need to have higher bolsters, and you need to go over them when you're entering/exiting, which for someone with agility issues is for sure not ideal. But if you mean the former I'd be surprised, my father with lower back issues travelled with me on a 2hr trip as a front passenger in the CS and after setting the seat right for him, he had a really easy time in the car. He even suggested driving it so I could rest for a while  :tongue:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: Aidey on 19 December 2017, 21:34
getting in and out, and its not me its the change in family circumstances im having to take on thats causing the issues lol , blew my top tonight and told them all that im keeping my car and they can use the gt for themselves  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Time to Change
Post by: scanesare on 19 December 2017, 21:59
getting in and out, and its not me its the change in family circumstances im having to take on thats causing the issues lol

Good, that's what I was expecting to hear regarding the comfort point( and I knew it wasn't you), I have been amazed by how comfortable the seats are on long journeys. In and out can sometimes be a b**** If I enter in a hurry and hit the bolsters with my thigh, although I forget everything once I've sat on (correction: hugged by) them.


blew my top tonight and told them all that im keeping my car and they can use the gt for themselves  :evil: :evil:

I was reaching a critical point last year when we had to carry the toddler seat in and out all the time and was thinking enough with the worrying of damaging the seats etc, just switch to a Cupra estate and be done with it. But then I thought, it's the car that has given me the most pleasure and the one that feels closer to a sports car than anything I've ever had or probably ever going to have so unless there is really no other choice, changing would be a terrible mistake. In fact I put it up for sale to see if I'd get any buyers and it felt sh*te just posting the ad online. I had two serious buyers waiting for me to set an appointment to come and see the car, then I thought forget all that, it's a 5-door Golf and it's perfect for our family size and needs, I won't change it just for the sake of fearing of scratching the seats, it is able to be used and enjoyed daily with maybe some extra care. I'm now talking with shops for applying PPF or similar on the back of the Recaros before we turn the child seat forward some time next year. Having never been an estate guy anyway I retrospectively can say that it feels great I sticked with it.