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Title: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: cosmicremedy on 23 November 2017, 10:39
Hi,

I need to update the maps on my car, but after going to the web site it is only showing upto 2016 on the Golf GTI and Golf 7 drop down menu's.  Has anyone else updated there maps recently.

This is the site i have gone to, directed from the VW web site -

http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Europe&NewLocaleID=en_GB&NewDomainName=Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light

For info my brother has an Octavia vRS and he's just put the latest maps on about a week ago.

Thanks.

Martin
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 23 November 2017, 17:57
Latest maps are still May but a newer update is due soon. Just wait for the new one coming.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: itavaltalainen on 23 November 2017, 19:47
They are out already.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 November 2017, 06:41
November's maps?? Where?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: itavaltalainen on 24 November 2017, 09:00
I can post a direct download link, what nav and gen do you have?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: cosmicremedy on 24 November 2017, 11:56
I can post a direct download link, what nav and gen do you have?

I have the standard nav on my mk7.5 GTI.

Thanks,

Martin
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 November 2017, 13:12
Nav Pro Mk 7 GTi gen 2. May is the latest I can find anywhere so would be interesting to see where you've got more up to date from.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: itavaltalainen on 24 November 2017, 14:31
There is a thread with direct links on a German forum I’m a member off.
Will post link when i get back home.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: rwleigh on 24 November 2017, 14:46
Updating mine now...

(https://s7.postimg.org/l85t1paqz/nav-update.jpg)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 November 2017, 07:59
Updating to what?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: rwleigh on 25 November 2017, 09:20
Updating to what?

This...
(https://s25.postimg.org/5twfk7dsv/nav-update4.jpg)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 November 2017, 09:49
Is that the May map update?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: rwleigh on 25 November 2017, 10:10
Is that the May map update?

I doubt it as I already had that back in May and the DiscoverCare software told me there was an update which I did yesterday.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 November 2017, 10:37
I can't get the discover care program to work.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: cosmicremedy on 25 November 2017, 10:38
There was an update to the Skoda maps a couple of weeks ago, which my brother did on his Octavia.  I couldn't find the one on the VW site though.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: rwleigh on 25 November 2017, 11:11
There was an update to the Skoda maps a couple of weeks ago, which my brother did on his Octavia.  I couldn't find the one on the VW site though.

Just install this and follow the instructions...
http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/discovercare.html (http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/discovercare.html)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Eccie on 26 November 2017, 16:22
There was an update to the Skoda maps a couple of weeks ago, which my brother did on his Octavia.  I couldn't find the one on the VW site though.

Just install this and follow the instructions...
http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/discovercare.html (http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/discovercare.html)

Just looked at that link and it says download a map without detours - would that suggest it won’t reroute you if say a road was blocked or major traffic issues?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: itavaltalainen on 26 November 2017, 16:49
DiscoverCare gets updates later than 'manual download servers.

Direct download links to latest maps:

All Mk 7 pro / 7.5 pro: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P166_N60S5MIBH3_EU_NT.7z
Only Mk 7 mib 2 / 7.5 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/0915_MP171-1284.xEUR1.7z
Only Mk7 mib1 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P72_N60S3MIBS2_EU_NT.7z


 




Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: jv on 26 November 2017, 17:17
There was an update to the Skoda maps a couple of weeks ago, which my brother did on his Octavia.  I couldn't find the one on the VW site though.

Just install this and follow the instructions...
http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/discovercare.html (http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/discovercare.html)

Just looked at that link and it says download a map without detours - would that suggest it won’t reroute you if say a road was blocked or major traffic issues?

Haha  :grin: Marketing use of English  :grin:

It could say "Get a new map without delays" and you could think "wow, this navigation map won't contain delays, amazing!"
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 November 2017, 18:04
DiscoverCare gets updates later than 'manual download servers.

Direct download links to latest maps:

All Mk 7 pro / 7.5 pro: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P166_N60S5MIBH3_EU_NT.7z
Only Mk 7 mib 2 / 7.5 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/0915_MP171-1284.xEUR1.7z
Only Mk7 mib1 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P72_N60S3MIBS2_EU_NT.7z
Where are these maps from? Official or unofficial?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: itavaltalainen on 26 November 2017, 19:15
All official links, been up for a good few weeks already.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 November 2017, 22:24
👍👍
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: sadsac on 05 December 2017, 11:39
DiscoverCare gets updates later than 'manual download servers.

Direct download links to latest maps:

All Mk 7 pro / 7.5 pro: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P166_N60S5MIBH3_EU_NT.7z
Only Mk 7 mib 2 / 7.5 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/0915_MP171-1284.xEUR1.7z
Only Mk7 mib1 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P72_N60S3MIBS2_EU_NT.7z

Thanks for the links but has anyone successfully used the Mk 7 pro archive above? I've downloaded twice but both times P166_N60S5MIBH3_EU_NT.md5 won't extract with 7zip so there seems to be an issue with it. I've updated twice before with no problems. It's a pain given the download is 25GB!

My past source below is still showing no update since May:

http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/-/-/-/View-Promo?&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light&Page=VW_Europe_Golf7Landing

Cheers
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: sadsac on 05 December 2017, 19:47
Successfully updated my MIB2 Discover Pro to Nov 2017 via this link: http://vw.download.navigation.com/automotive/VW/MIB2/MIB_High2_Single_File_EU/P166_N60S5MIBH3_EU_NT.7z
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mkviken on 14 December 2017, 16:34
DiscoverCare gets updates later than 'manual download servers.

Direct download links to latest maps:

All Mk 7 pro / 7.5 pro: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P166_N60S5MIBH3_EU_NT.7z
Only Mk 7 mib 2 / 7.5 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/0915_MP171-1284.xEUR1.7z
Only Mk7 mib1 std: http://vw-mapscdn.tdd.adacorcdn.com/P72_N60S3MIBS2_EU_NT.7z

is the mk7 mib2 definitely the latest 2017 november map?

i already have may 2017 - don't want to download 12gb if its the one i already have


thanks
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mkviken on 14 December 2017, 16:37
http://webspecial.volkswagen.de/maps/int/en/index.html

this one says it was only released 12/12/17
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 14 December 2017, 19:06
Any luck in updating using the car-net app in the car? Just wondering how good it is at updates
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mkviken on 16 December 2017, 21:40
i just updated my SD card from the update from here (12/12/17)
http://webspecial.volkswagen.de/maps/int/en/index.html


when i put my SD card in to the computer and open the discover care app it says there is an update available - is this right?

how do i check what the latest map is?

thanks
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 17 December 2017, 10:04
Any luck in updating using the car-net app in the car? Just wondering how good it is at updates

I've managed to update a single country map using it but it was painfully slow. I did it sat on the drive rather than using mobile data.

Shame really as I thought this might be the best way of doing it
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 17 December 2017, 16:29
Is the standard Discover Navigation in 7.5’s gen 2 in the map updates?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 17 December 2017, 16:32
http://webspecial.volkswagen.de/maps/int/en/index.html

this one says it was only released 12/12/17

I just tried to update my maps using the app and it said it was already up to date... interesting, I picked up my car after the 12th December
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mkviken on 17 December 2017, 17:23
I think the app is not up to date

I got my update from the German site and uploaded it to the car and it says it is 2018 map where before it was 17/18
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Daz Auto on 17 December 2017, 19:27
http://webspecial.volkswagen.de/maps/int/en/index.html

this one says it was only released 12/12/17

I just tried to update my maps using the app and it said it was already up to date... interesting, I picked up my car after the 12th December
Same here. Download and ran the DiscoverCare app on my PC from the above link. Unlocked and inserted my VW SD Card.

It says I have the latest version, but the latest version is only 5 days old. :huh:

I think I might run the update anyway after SWMBO has finished watching Holby on iplayer :rolleyes:

It's a big update. Going to take a while with my connection. :undecided:

Also tried the radio station logos download. It still doesn't have some of the Absolute or Magic station logos.

Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Catnapper on 17 December 2017, 20:06
Just tried twice to update but keep getting an error on extracted file download or installation.
Going to try to restore to original. Fingers crossed that works
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Daz Auto on 17 December 2017, 20:10
Just tried twice to update but keep getting an error on extracted file download or installation.
Going to try to restore to original. Fingers crossed that works
Thanks for warning. Think I'll leave it for now.

Update on update - because of our internet connection and the file size it said it would take almost 6 hours. :shocked: If I do this I want to know a) that it works b) it makes a difference.   :huh: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Catnapper on 17 December 2017, 20:31
Just tried twice to update but keep getting an error on extracted file download or installation.
Going to try to restore to original. Fingers crossed that works

Copy and paste back up file worked, just going to try and download the file independently & install.
Tomorrow  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 17 December 2017, 22:51
I think the app is not up to date

I got my update from the German site and uploaded it to the car and it says it is 2018 map where before it was 17/18

Just done the same and it worked without a hitch; took a lot of time transferring the files though.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Daz Auto on 18 December 2017, 13:17
Got it to work eventually :nerd:

So I went to this site - http://webspecial.volkswagen.de/maps/int/en/index.html (http://webspecial.volkswagen.de/maps/int/en/index.html)

(This didn't work for my Discover Media VW SD Card -

I downloaded the DiscoverCare program. This program said that the there were no updates available.

I went to the next page, did the backup, then the download which took hours, then the install which failed near the end. :rolleyes:)

This did work for my Discover Media VW SD Card -

I downloaded the European Countries, Bundle 1, 17/12/12 update.

Then I dowloaded the 7.zip program near the bottom of the updates page and installed it.

I copied all the data off my VW SD Card into a folder on my computer. So the card was empty.

Then I clicked on the update file with my right button and used 7.zip to extract the 'MAPS' to my SD Card.

Remember to lock the SD Card again.

Now the Navigation info says 2018. :cool:



Note: as with any update you do so at your own risk!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Catnapper on 18 December 2017, 16:48
Downloaded and unzipped last night :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Just need to copy onto my sd card. Here goes!!!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 23 December 2017, 19:55
Anyone managed to get this to work on a Nav Pro? I've downloaded the file twice and twice when it's unzipped it's shown errors. Never had any issues previously when updating any Nav unit but this is total 💩
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 23 December 2017, 22:10
Nope, I can't make it download intact either.

Had 4 goes now.

Probably better to look for the one they do in pieces...
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: maxie on 24 December 2017, 10:32
Nope, I can't make it download intact either.

Had 4 goes now.

Probably better to look for the one they do in pieces...

i used DiscoverCare to download it then it put it straight onto my non vw sd card, i haven't tried it in the car yet but so far so good :)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 December 2017, 12:19
Is that for pro version or just discover media??
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: maxie on 24 December 2017, 12:28
Is that for pro version or just discover media??

i think it's for the pro, hope so anyways :)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/nv60cj.jpg)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 December 2017, 13:56
I can't even get discover care to work!!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: kalimon on 24 December 2017, 14:08
I'm attempting to do mine now.
It's a painfully slow process with no guarantee it will actually work! :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: kalimon on 24 December 2017, 22:17
It literally took all day but it’s worked and is now showing version 2017/18
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 December 2017, 07:41
The new pro update is 166 and should say 2018.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: kalimon on 25 December 2017, 10:55
The new pro update is 166 and should say 2018.
Mine's not the Pro so hopefully it's the right update :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 December 2017, 11:13
Would have thought it would say 2018 but if it's updated and working then  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: kalimon on 25 December 2017, 11:50
It was such a faff that I will probably never ever update it again :grin:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: maxie on 26 December 2017, 18:34
mine took 45mins to update, but its done :)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 December 2017, 20:40
Direct download posted previously doesn't work for pro versions. Download from new Here website doesn't work either. Giving up now trying to update my nav pro as can't be a4sed with the carry on.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: maxie on 27 December 2017, 21:35
Direct download posted previously doesn't work for pro versions. Download from new Here website doesn't work either. Giving up now trying to update my nav pro as can't be a4sed with the carry on.

i have the pro version(without the knobs) and it worked on mine.. so i'm not sure whats what :)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 December 2017, 22:26
File downloads but won't extract. Keeps saying file is corrupt. Mines on a pre FL GTi so has buttons but file is the same on both.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: kalimon on 28 December 2017, 07:16
I downloaded it directly to the Vw sd card.
It took forever but worked fine.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: maxie on 28 December 2017, 10:34
I downloaded it directly to the Vw sd card.
It took forever but worked fine.
File downloads but won't extract. Keeps saying file is corrupt. Mines on a pre FL GTi so has buttons but file is the same on both.

i did it the same way straight to the sd card, mine wasn't a vw one but all worked fine.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 December 2017, 11:37
If you've got a VW SD card then you don't have a Nav Pro you have discover media, they are different systems.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: kalimon on 28 December 2017, 13:53
If you've got a VW SD card then you don't have a Nav Pro you have discover media, they are different systems.
I mentioned a few posts ago that I didn't have the Nav Pro.
I thought we were talking about updating maps in general. If not, my mistake (as usual) :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: maxie on 28 December 2017, 14:02
i like everything about my 7.5 apart from when the door geets opened and the dash gets wet when cars wet, and that my vw says i can't remap the stearing even though others have told me it can be done...
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 December 2017, 14:44
If you've got a VW SD card then you don't have a Nav Pro you have discover media, they are different systems.
I mentioned a few posts ago that I didn't have the Nav Pro.
I thought we were talking about updating maps in general. If not, my mistake (as usual) :embarrassed:
No probs, was just with me saying that the pro download wasn't working that's all.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: maxie on 28 December 2017, 18:29
I downloaded it directly to the Vw sd card.
It took forever but worked fine.
File downloads but won't extract. Keeps saying file is corrupt. Mines on a pre FL GTi so has buttons but file is the same on both.

i did it the same way straight to the sd card, mine wasn't a vw one but all worked fine.
mines the pro though i think..
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2cfazk2.jpg)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 10 January 2018, 11:19
Thought I might upgrade my maps since I haven't done so since I bought the car in Sept 2016, two questions:

1) Is it not possible to use a 32gb or bigger usb flash drive instead of an SD? The car has a usb port so I'd imagine it should be a usable source for upgrades. I have downloaded the maps in my workstation which lacks any SD card adapter so it's a bit of a pain moving the maps to a laptop only to have access to an SD port.

2) Strangely enough, out of the 25 or so gb of the entire download, the MIB2 folder is just 4.27gb. Can I just copy that to my SD together with the .md5 file and attempt an upgrade that way? Can't understand why the MIB1 data would be 5 times larger unless there's been some error during unzipping...

PS. Mine is a MK7 Discover Pro but I believe the answers to those questions are the same for the 7.5

Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 10 January 2018, 11:33
You can't use a USB key, it has to be a SD card - it will only look for updates in the SD slots.

Yes, you can strip the MIB2 folder out, but keep the file in the root directory (if you look there are 2 folders and a file, the file is the bit you need to keep)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 10 January 2018, 12:29
You can't use a USB key, it has to be a SD card - it will only look for updates in the SD slots.

Yes, you can strip the MIB2 folder out, but keep the file in the root directory (if you look there are 2 folders and a file, the file is the bit you need to keep)

Ok, so MIB2 folder and .md5 file copied in an SD, that's less than 5GB, shouldn't take that long.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 10 January 2018, 13:05
Good luck!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 10 January 2018, 13:27
You can't use a USB key, it has to be a SD card - it will only look for updates in the SD slots.

Yes, you can strip the MIB2 folder out, but keep the file in the root directory (if you look there are 2 folders and a file, the file is the bit you need to keep)

Ok, so MIB2 folder and .md5 file copied in an SD, that's less than 5GB, shouldn't take that long.

I would be interested to see if this works; I have copied the full file once manually and I don't fancy doing it again in the near future.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 January 2018, 13:33
I very much doubt it will work properly. You need everything that's downloaded to be on the SD card not just parts of it. The map data is the same for mib1 and mib2 so if you don't have the mib1 folder you'll probably not be updating the maps. Interesting to see what happens though.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 10 January 2018, 14:01
I very much doubt it will work properly. You need everything that's downloaded to be on the SD card not just parts of it. The map data is the same for mib1 and mib2 so if you don't have the mib1 folder you'll probably not be updating the maps. Interesting to see what happens though.

What you say kind of makes sense in the way that the file sizes (if actually independable between MIB1 and 2) don't add up. How can MIB1 be 19GB and MIB2 only 4.5??

Fredgroves seems to believe it will work though so I'll give it a try. I doubt you can brick a Discover unit with an incomplete SD card (hopefully)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 10 January 2018, 14:04
Lets put it this way, when I removed the MIB2 from it when I had a MIB1 NavPro on my last car.... it worked just fine.

I wonder if the size difference is simply that the MIB2 system supports compressed maps? There is quite a difference between MIB2 and MIB1 in many respects... more than meets the eye, which is why you could never update a MIB1 device to support App Connect etc.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 10 January 2018, 14:05
Can you only select the UK map to copy over? I do not need the other Europe maps, so that could reduce the size dramatically!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 10 January 2018, 14:26
Lets put it this way, when I removed the MIB2 from it when I had a MIB1 NavPro on my last car.... it worked just fine.

I wonder if the size difference is simply that the MIB2 system supports compressed maps? There is quite a difference between MIB2 and MIB1 in many respects... more than meets the eye, which is why you could never update a MIB1 device to support App Connect etc.

But that sounds a bit different no? MIB1 surely doesn't need MIB2 data as it's not forwards compatible. MIB2 though could potentially use some MIB1 data on top of its own MIB2-specific data. In that case only copying the MIB2 folder would not work. But I'd expect to just come across a failure.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 10 January 2018, 14:39
Can you only select the UK map to copy over? I do not need the other Europe maps, so that could reduce the size dramatically!

I think you'd have to manually edit the manifest file to remove the others, otherwise it would try to find them and fail...
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 10 January 2018, 19:27
So... just the MIB2 folder and .md5 file failed to be recognized as a valid source for upgrading. I guess all units need MIB1 data as well so I'll be adding that to the SD tomorrow and re-try. Sounded too good to be true...
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 10 January 2018, 19:28
Hmm that's odd
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 10 January 2018, 19:51
Hmm that's odd

I'll report if just copying the MIB1 folder extra did it or there was another issue.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 January 2018, 06:50
Both 1 and 2s use the same map data but it just displays it better on the mib2. I would guess the mib2 file contents contains only data that the 2 can use and removing it for a 1 would work like Fred did. Unfortunately for a mib2 pro unit we need the full download.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 12 January 2018, 10:43
You can't use a USB key, it has to be a SD card - it will only look for updates in the SD slots.

Yes, you can strip the MIB2 folder out, but keep the file in the root directory (if you look there are 2 folders and a file, the file is the bit you need to keep)

Turns out you can actually use a USB key just fine. The soft button is labelled "Update USB/SD" and so I tried with a USB flash this morning and it starts updating normally. (Strangely, on my first attempt with an SD yesterday it seemed to work fine, then when it reached 100% an error popped up: "Error: Restart the software update"  :huh:  Let's see if I succeed with the USB this time.

Also, as said before you can't strip any folder for MIB2 units or it fails, it needs all the contents of the zip file.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 12 January 2018, 10:53
I guess its changed a bit since MIB1.

I've not actually managed to get my MIB2 NavPro to update since I've had this Mk7.5...

Kinda given up as I rarely use the VW nav itself now.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 12 January 2018, 11:02
I guess its changed a bit since MIB1.

I've not actually managed to get my MIB2 NavPro to update since I've had this Mk7.5...

Kinda given up as I rarely use the VW nav itself now.

Adding speed cam POIs and using car net to update traffic has reinvigorated the VW sat nav for me
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: CocoPops on 12 January 2018, 13:29
Ok, 8 pages....
Do I need to update my 7.5 collected today? Maps show 2017/2018.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 12 January 2018, 13:33
Ok, 8 pages....
Do I need to update my 7.5 collected today? Maps show 2017/2018.

Yes you do... the new map is 2018 only
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 12 January 2018, 13:37
Ok, 8 pages....
Do I need to update my 7.5 collected today? Maps show 2017/2018.

About time as well, congrats. You get those red footwell LEDs in yet?  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: CocoPops on 12 January 2018, 13:59
No! They bloody sent BLUE ones!  :rolleyes: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 12 January 2018, 14:03
No! They bloody sent BLUE ones!  :rolleyes: :grin:

Did you try them out anyway? I want to know if they plug and play without issue and see how bright they are!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 12 January 2018, 17:32
Ok so even with the USB card I got the same error after hitting 100% completion, "error, restart software update" but I guess it might be some sort of bug (the showing up of the error) as the maps now show (I think) the latest version:

V03959800QS0166 ECE 2018

and below each country map, it shows 2018.

Nav works as usual so can't be bothered more...
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Daz Auto on 12 January 2018, 17:47
I suspect doing this update broke my internet. It's not been the same since.  :angry: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Beezer on 13 January 2018, 11:57
Just on updating my SD card now. Using the direct download file posted earlier in this thread.

My existing card had a maps folder and a .txt file. I’ve copied both of these to my Mac as a backup then deleted them off the card.

I’ve extracted the 7zip and there is a maps folder and a .md5 file which I’m copying to the SD card.

Is that all I need to do? Any reason why the old version had a .txt file and then new one has a .md5 file?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: itavaltalainen on 13 January 2018, 13:21
It's just a checksum file.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Beezer on 13 January 2018, 20:08
I don’t know what a checksum is lol but I copied it to the card anyway!

Everything seems to have worked and my version info now says 0915 ECE1 2018.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Talk-torque on 14 January 2018, 19:18
Did mine this afternoon with no problems, other than it took about 3 hours in all. Works OK. Updated camera POI's from Pocket GPS at the same time and also added 3 albums to my music SD card. All set!

Have to say, I've never noticed anything change for a nav data update, but I live in hope!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 15 January 2018, 09:01
Have to say, I've never noticed anything change for a nav data update, but I live in hope!

You've got maps for the entirety of Europe pretty much... every road. I'm sure somewhere in there you will find changes, but probably no surprises on your daily commute that you've not noticed ;-)
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mustard on 15 January 2018, 13:48
The latest version has the Bexhill/Hastings Relief Road, opened in 2015, but missing from previous versions
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: scanesare on 15 January 2018, 20:56
Any recommendations for camera POIs that work with Discover Pro? Never looked into this thing but I guess if it's there why not add it to the system.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 15 January 2018, 21:18
Pocketgps is the best source but you need a subscription
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mustard on 16 January 2018, 09:42
I have the Thinkware dashcam, which comes with a camera database, which is updated regularly.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 16 January 2018, 09:59
Pocketgps is the best source but you need a subscription

How up to date are they about the cameras? A friend has on his but it still shows cameras in the West Midlands.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 16 January 2018, 10:08
I have the Thinkware dashcam, which comes with a camera database, which is updated regularly.

Same here, but I find seeing the cameras on my satnav map beforehand more useful. Also, the one thing I find problematic with the Thinkware dashcam is that you have to wait till the GPS is connected if it has been turned off for a period of time.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 16 January 2018, 10:10
Pocketgps is the best source but you need a subscription

How up to date are they about the cameras? A friend has on his but it still shows cameras in the West Midlands.

The maps are pretty much updated every couple of weeks. I can't remember driving past a camera that hasn't appeared on my satnav using the database, so I am very happy and more then willing to pay £20 per year!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 16 January 2018, 10:12
Pocketgps is the best source but you need a subscription

How up to date are they about the cameras? A friend has on his but it still shows cameras in the West Midlands.

The maps are pretty much updated every couple of weeks. I can't remember driving past a camera that hasn't appeared on my satnav using the database, so I am very happy and more then willing to pay £20 per year!

IWAGTI was meaning the other way around - when a camera gets removed, is it removed from the DB? Being alerted to long gone static cameras can be very annoying.

In Waze only super users can mark a camera as not there, I guess pocketGPS is the same...
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 16 January 2018, 10:37
Pocketgps is the best source but you need a subscription

How up to date are they about the cameras? A friend has on his but it still shows cameras in the West Midlands.

The maps are pretty much updated every couple of weeks. I can't remember driving past a camera that hasn't appeared on my satnav using the database, so I am very happy and more then willing to pay £20 per year!

IWAGTI was meaning the other way around - when a camera gets removed, is it removed from the DB? Being alerted to long gone static cameras can be very annoying.

In Waze only super users can mark a camera as not there, I guess pocketGPS is the same...

Yeah I know what you mean. The gatso ones seem fine but the mobile ones are annoying as they are rarely there!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: hog_hedge on 16 January 2018, 10:44
When you have the pocketgps cameras loaded is it possible for the inbuilt satnav to notify you when you’re near?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: seanng on 16 January 2018, 10:49
When you have the pocketgps cameras loaded is it possible for the inbuilt satnav to notify you when you’re near?

You add them to the satnav as POIs using a sd card (info in link below) and you get alerts. An alternative is to add as POIs using car net but you don't get alerts.

http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/22851-sat-nav-speed-camera-alerts/?page=7
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 16 January 2018, 10:56
When you have the pocketgps cameras loaded is it possible for the inbuilt satnav to notify you when you’re near?

Yes but only on MIB2 from what I remember...
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: Talk-torque on 16 January 2018, 12:12
When you have the pocketgps cameras loaded is it possible for the inbuilt satnav to notify you when you’re near?

Yes but only on MIB2 from what I remember...

The problem is that "near" is pretty close, say 30 metres ish, so not useful for avoiding detection! Also, the warning sound is not customisable, not very urgent and it's volume is dependant on your current navigation announcement volume. I have the screen set to the fixed "300 yards" scale so that I have a decent forward coverage and will, hopefully, notice any unfamiliar camera symbols. Not ideal, but better than nothing!
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: fredgroves on 16 January 2018, 12:22
Better to use Waze over AndroidAuto :D

No fiddly camera updates, no pathetic VW nav "bong" and you can set it so it only alerts if you are speeding AND about to meet a camera. No alerts for law abiding drivers :D
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 16 January 2018, 16:46
Pocketgps is the best source but you need a subscription

How up to date are they about the cameras? A friend has on his but it still shows cameras in the West Midlands.

The maps are pretty much updated every couple of weeks. I can't remember driving past a camera that hasn't appeared on my satnav using the database, so I am very happy and more then willing to pay £20 per year!

IWAGTI was meaning the other way around - when a camera gets removed, is it removed from the DB? Being alerted to long gone static cameras can be very annoying.

In Waze only super users can mark a camera as not there, I guess pocketGPS is the same...

Yeah that is what I meant. Does it show cameras that are there but not switched on? In the WM they didn't remove most of the cameras even though none of them are switched on.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: CocoPops on 17 January 2018, 11:45
Right,
I must be an idiot, because I cannot get the update to work.

I've used the Discovercare to build my SD card.
I've inserted it into slot 2 (Slot1 has original VW card).
Tried update and get an error saying no data found.

I've also switched cards around, VW card is then detected in slot 2 but still no update found.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 17 January 2018, 11:47
Right,
I must be an idiot, because I cannot get the update to work.

I've used the Discovercare to build my SD card.
I've inserted it into slot 2 (Slot1 has original VW card).
Tried update and get an error saying no data found.

I've also switched cards around, VW card is then detected in slot 2 but still no update found.

Are you not supposed to used the VW card?
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: hog_hedge on 17 January 2018, 14:10
Right,
I must be an idiot, because I cannot get the update to work.

I've used the Discovercare to build my SD card.
I've inserted it into slot 2 (Slot1 has original VW card).
Tried update and get an error saying no data found.

I've also switched cards around, VW card is then detected in slot 2 but still no update found.

I put the original VW card into my Mac, wiped it and put the updated files straight onto it. That worked a treat.
Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: CocoPops on 17 January 2018, 15:37
Bit concerned about wiping original card and then getting screwed.
I've now tried downloading the files and unzipping using 7zip... no difference.

On my Unit it shows the following under System Info:
Device part number: 3Q00335874C
Hardware: H41
Software: 0468
Navigation Database:
3G0919866BC
0820
ECE1 2017/18

Title: Re: GTI 7.5 Map Update....
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 January 2018, 15:57
Unless you've got Nav pro then you must use the supplied VW card. You say wiping it but what you actually need to do is copy the contents to your computer so if anything does go wrong you can copy original back to the card.