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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mcmaddy on 23 May 2017, 21:47
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Anyone used Gulf fuel and can report what it's like. Going to Skye in a couple of weeks and only fuel station is a gulf one at Broadford.
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What a random question, what makes you think it'll be vastly different from any other fuel?
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What a random question, what makes you think it'll be vastly different from any other fuel?
Because there can be a huge difference in the quality of fuel. I've noticed it in the diesel I use.
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How vast is Skye? Unless you intend to do an Isle of Man tt circuit type race that is : :grin:Fill up before the ferry.
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Not using the ferry, driving all the way up. Amazing how you ask a question on here now and all you get is smart a4se comments. Not from everyone I might add! The reason for the question is I've only used Shell and Esso fuel so far in my car and was just wondering if anyone had used Gulf filling stations.
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Sorry to hijack the thread but what fuels do you think are the better quality?
Ive had a company car for the last 6 years and a fuel card; we were only allowed to put the cheap stuff in.
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What a random question, what makes you think it'll be vastly different from any other fuel?
Because there can be a huge difference in the quality of fuel. I've noticed it in the diesel I use.
*roll eyes*
That old chestnut, I guess supermarket fuel is the devil fuel for engines isn't it.
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It all comes out of the same oil tanker :laugh:
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It all comes out of the same oil tanker :laugh:
With different additives added by the tanker driver when pumping it into the tanks at the station.
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What a random question, what makes you think it'll be vastly different from any other fuel?
Because there can be a huge difference in the quality of fuel. I've noticed it in the diesel I use.
*roll eyes*
That old chestnut, I guess supermarket fuel is the devil fuel for engines isn't it.
It is up to you to think what you want, as it is for me. Are you saying that the people that do notice a difference are wrong or they're stupid because they don't think the same as you.
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I've personally never had an issue with any fuel in any garage, nor have I ever noticed any performance or mpg differences and I'm not fussed at all as to what brand I'd use - I use whatever happens to be nearest when the fuel light comes on. I would obviously be wary of using an unknown / no-brand garage, but so long as it's a big filling station with all the branding... then... I fill away.
Beyond that is overthinking it IMO, but I know this is a strangely divisive subject, so each to their own.
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It is only Skye just fill up before you cross the free bridge if you are that worried and nip back to the mainland if you run low. The fuel will be fine, there is no vast difference in any UK fuels as they all come from the same refinery. Some nice roads on Skye to enjoy as well.
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I've personally never had an issue with any fuel in any garage, nor have I ever noticed any performance or mpg differences and I'm not fussed at all as to what brand I'd use - I use whatever happens to be nearest when the fuel light comes on. I would obviously be wary of using an unknown / no-brand garage, but so long as it's a big filling station with all the branding... then... I fill away.
Beyond that is overthinking it IMO, but I know this is a strangely divisive subject, so each to their own.
When I fitted the dtuk I could make the car go into limp mode when I had the box on +3 on any of the 3 programs and the car would shudder if under heavy load, say 4th gear doing 40 mph and as the torque would start to build it would start to shudder.
Running the car on Shell V power diesel over the last few thousand miles with the dtuk box set on program 3+3 and its been fine after the first tank of it. It took a good tank and a half to get there though.
I know the likes of 5 Gear done a test but they only used a gallon of the stuff. It is tha same with the wife's car using V power petrol.
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The nearest shell or esso station to Skye is fort William which is a bit far to go. I don't have an issue with using other fuels but I won't use asda or morrisons just as I didn't when I had the gtd. It was just a question as to had anyone used Gulf fuel.
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It all comes out of the same oil tanker :laugh:
Except it doesn't. Remember a couple of years back when supermarket fuel from Tesco and Morrisons was poisoning lambda sensors because of the silicone content in the fuel and/or tankers?
Funnily enough BP/Shell/Esso and other premium fuel suppliers were not affected.
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The nearest shell or esso station to Skye is fort William which is a bit far to go. I don't have an issue with using other fuels but I won't use asda or morrisons just as I didn't when I had the gtd. It was just a question as to had anyone used Gulf fuel.
mcmaddy you were being optimistic to expect an actual useful response when you wrote the word 'fuel' in the thread title, lol. You know its like a red rag to a bull on forums. :wink:
Guess there may be only one way to find out what the Gulf fuel is like, but I'm sure the car will cope with it and hope you have a very enjoyable trip and drive to Skye.
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The nearest shell or esso station to Skye is fort William which is a bit far to go. I don't have an issue with using other fuels but I won't use asda or morrisons just as I didn't when I had the gtd. It was just a question as to had anyone used Gulf fuel.
mcmaddy you were being optimistic to expect an actual useful response when you wrote the word 'fuel' in the thread title, lol. You know its like a red rag to a bull on forums. :wink:
Guess there may be only one way to find out what the Gulf fuel is like, but I'm sure the car will cope with it and hope you have a very enjoyable trip and drive to Skye.
Good god Rebecca, stop being so pleasant and rational :kiss:
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The nearest shell or esso station to Skye is fort William which is a bit far to go. I don't have an issue with using other fuels but I won't use asda or morrisons just as I didn't when I had the gtd. It was just a question as to had anyone used Gulf fuel.
mcmaddy you were being optimistic to expect an actual useful response when you wrote the word 'fuel' in the thread title, lol. You know its like a red rag to a bull on forums. :wink:
Guess there may be only one way to find out what the Gulf fuel is like, but I'm sure the car will cope with it and hope you have a very enjoyable trip and drive to Skye.
Good god Rebecca, stop being so pleasant and rational :kiss:
I'm sorry. Blame the sunshine, it does things to me. I'll go away sit in a darkened room and come back irrational and unpleasant. Did I hear you whisper the word "normal" kalimon? :laugh:
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I'm in no doubts it'll be fine. Just don't want to run out while out and about haha. Bit far to push :grin:
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What a random question, what makes you think it'll be vastly different from any other fuel?
Because there can be a huge difference in the quality of fuel. I've noticed it in the diesel I use.
*roll eyes*
That old chestnut, I guess supermarket fuel is the devil fuel for engines isn't it.
It is up to you to think what you want, as it is for me. Are you saying that the people that do notice a difference are wrong or they're stupid because they don't think the same as you.
It's been proven many times that normal fuel between brands is irrelevant. Yes there has been some issues with some fuel from supermarkets but that doesn't mean every litre is inferior. It was a one off.
However when we come to super fuels that's a difference matter and there is proof of differences.
My point to the OP was - don't worry your car won't blow up.
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If you are worried about the quality of the Gulf fuel then you could fill up in Fort William as I'm sure there is a BP as you leave the town with their fuel. it's no more then 100 miles if I remember to Skye so depending on your driving style, you should have some left. Then top up at the Gulf PS on Skye. at least that way you will be mixing the different fuels which if there is a difference then it's surely got to be better than a whole tank of the rubbish stuff?
I know that doesn't answer your question but may help.
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Will do that and hope the wife doesn't want to drive all over :whistle:
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Will do that and hope the wife doesn't want to drive all over :whistle:
Yeah Skye is reasonably big so you could use a full tank on there
I'm taking my clubsport up on Wednesday so that's my plan so I'll report back if I discover any other petrol stations.
Ps, consider taking the ferry back from Armadale and stop at the Silver Sands at Morar. Beautiful beach
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The last time I was up that way, there was a Gleaner in Kyle of Lochalsh and in Portree. Think gleaner is connected to Shell as they rebranded a lot of rural Shell petrol stations to Gleaner.
On the supermarket fuel argument, I worked on forecourts for a few years and speaking to the pump engineers they never filled up at a supermarket, they said, the pumps are always gummed up from pumping the petrol, what does that do to the car. They used the big brands because the pumps where always cleaner. Guess this is all the additives they add above the standard fuel standard. only my tuppence worth :whistle:
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That's interesting regarding Gleaner, cheers.
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Isn't diesel the fuel of the devil and probably whichever station you pump in it from I doubt there will be any difference? I could understand concerns if it was hypercar but not for one fill of the dreaded black stuff.
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Isn't diesel the fuel of the devil and probably whichever station you pump in it from I doubt there will be any difference? I could understand concerns if it was hypercar but not for one fill of the dreaded black stuff.
There IS a difference
On forecourt fuel all of my cars have run smoother and returned better MPG
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Keh? Define forecourt fuel.
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Isn't diesel the fuel of the devil and probably whichever station you pump in it from I doubt there will be any difference? I could understand concerns if it was hypercar but not for one fill of the dreaded black stuff.
There IS a difference
On forecourt fuel all of my cars have run smoother and returned better MPG
As opposed to Gulf, that unheard of fuel that has never been associated with any sort of racing...?!
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Keh? Define forecourt fuel.
NOT from a supermarket, so basically the major brands.
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Keh? Define forecourt fuel.
NOT from a supermarket, so basically the major brands.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=forecourt&oq=forecourt&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i59j0l3.2114j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=forecourt&oq=forecourt&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i59j0l3.2114j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
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Keh? Define forecourt fuel.
NOT from a supermarket, so basically the major brands.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=forecourt&oq=forecourt&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i59j0l3.2114j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=forecourt&oq=forecourt&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i59j0l3.2114j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Wow. Good for you
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What is happening with forums at the moment? They're struggling against the tide of Facebook bullsh!t but seemingly every last detail has to be picked apart by pedants. WTF is the point of posting a dictionary definition of a word in this country?
We have so many regional dialects and words that differ you could get properly arsey all the time but let's be right, for the most part we understand each other regardless of regional dialect and variation and to pick at it is to just be a knob for the sake of it.
<sigh>
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Strange that as the post you refer to gave me a really good laugh! And the response, top stuff!
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What is happening with forums at the moment? They're struggling against the tide of Facebook bullsh!t but seemingly every last detail has to be picked apart by pedants. WTF is the point of posting a dictionary definition of a word in this country?
We have so many regional dialects and words that differ you could get properly arsey all the time but let's be right, for the most part we understand each other regardless of regional dialect and variation and to pick at it is to just be a knob for the sake of it.
<sigh>
Unfortunately, some people are just arsey. Online personas only serves to amplify a personality.
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What is happening with forums at the moment? They're struggling against the tide of Facebook bullsh!t but seemingly every last detail has to be picked apart by pedants. WTF is the point of posting a dictionary definition of a word in this country?
We have so many regional dialects and words that differ you could get properly arsey all the time but let's be right, for the most part we understand each other regardless of regional dialect and variation and to pick at it is to just be a knob for the sake of it.
<sigh>
Made me laugh and I know it's directed at me.
Perhaps it's rather frustrating when people make up terms that isn't obvious as to what it is i.e. 'forecourt fuel' meaning branded fuels, that's so unclear, it has nothing to do with regional dialects. It's not even an abbreviation of a word to create a new one with another or such like, it's just using a noun incorrectly. If I was talking to him I'd have said the same very thing - what are you on about and why do you call it that.
I assume you all instantly knew what he was on about when using that term then huh.
The joys of a forum.
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What is happening with forums at the moment? They're struggling against the tide of Facebook bullsh!t but seemingly every last detail has to be picked apart by pedants. WTF is the point of posting a dictionary definition of a word in this country?
We have so many regional dialects and words that differ you could get properly arsey all the time but let's be right, for the most part we understand each other regardless of regional dialect and variation and to pick at it is to just be a knob for the sake of it.
<sigh>
In the week and a bit that we have had here in the UK is there not more important things to get point out/get worked up by than the meaning/phrase of a word?
Maybe thinking all people in society can get on is a bit too much but surely it's not too much to ask that us here can, is it?
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The only 'major' difference i've ever noticed was years ago when i drove to Scotland to drop my neice in a 1.6 astra, filled up with BP before we left, drove 320 miles on that tank with no problems then filled up at the local Texaco, it was what my grandad would call kangaroo juice!! Car ran awful for a week afterwards!! Never had anything similar since but have never used Texaco since either!
@the OP, never used Gulf in my life but very unlikely it'll be any worse than any other.
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Companies like BP, Esso and the so called premium retailers pay car manufacturers to recommend higher priced fuels on their cars. That tells you all you need to know about the supermarket vs premium fuel argument. All fuel is made to a minimum standard, premium fuels have additives which claim to improve performance, reduce wear etc but its all subjective.
Personally I use supermarket with an occasional premium as a treat, seems like a happy medium...
As for your trip up to Skye, a single tank of what you perceive as cheap fuel isn't going to matter a jot, even if you believe the hype.
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Companies like BP, Esso and the so called premium retailers pay car manufacturers to recommend higher priced fuels on their cars. That tells you all you need to know about the supermarket vs premium fuel argument. All fuel is made to a minimum standard, premium fuels have additives which claim to improve performance, reduce wear etc but its all subjective.
Personally I use supermarket with an occasional premium as a treat, seems like a happy medium...
As for your trip up to Skye, a single tank of what you perceive as cheap fuel isn't going to matter a jot, even if you believe the hype.
It must be all in my head in that case :rolleyes:
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Have been to Skye on my bike and obviously have no choice but to fuel up when you can. Can only speak for the petrol but didn't seem to have a negative effect on the performance 😊. It would be a shame to go there in a performance Golf and not make use of the fantastic roads.
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Having returned today then I can report that there still is a BP as you leave Fort William as well as an Esso on the other side of the road before it (which was very cheap at £1.14 for normal unleaded today). There is also a Jet at Inverinate and then it was just the Gulf and Gleaner PS mentioned at the various locations above.
if it helps, I topped up the tank at the BP and still had over 3/4 left when I got to Portree. I did hit Eco Mode though. As much has been said, the roads are great but currently packed with tourists, campers & caravans at the moment so unable to enjoy unless on a bike.
So Fort William to Portree and back home on 1 tank with an average mpg in the CS of 41.9 on the computer.
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And a nice photo the CS on Skye albeit a little dirty :smiley: :smiley:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w116/MattRS_photo/IMAG0191_1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/MattRS_photo/media/IMAG0191_1.jpg.html)
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Excellent mpg's. I'll report back what I get from mine next week when I return.
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And a nice photo the CS on Skye albeit a little dirty :smiley: :smiley:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w116/MattRS_photo/IMAG0191_1.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/MattRS_photo/media/IMAG0191_1.jpg.html)
I'm not envious at all :rolleyes:
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Just back from trip to Skye and can report 44mpg on the way up and 42mpg on the way back. Wasn't hanging around coming back either with lots of caravans and camper vans on the road. Almost didn't have a car at all when an idiot biker decided to not bother slowing for a bend and ended up going straight off the road and into a ditch! Also have to say that I love the gti especially on the roads to and from Skye. Never felt wanting over taking and passed things with ease even when I forgot to change down a cog 🙊
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Just back from trip to Skye and can report 44mpg on the way up and 42mpg on the way back. Wasn't hanging around coming back either with lots of caravans and camper vans on the road. Almost didn't have a car at all when an idiot biker decided to not bother slowing for a bend and ended up going straight off the road and into a ditch! Also have to say that I love the gti especially on the roads to and from Skye. Never felt wanting over taking and passed things with ease even when I forgot to change down a cog 🙊
Nice, 44mpg.. That's pretty good, looking forward to getting my GTI.. My C Class only been managing 25-30!
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That's a PP gti too 😁
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Just back from trip to Skye and can report 44mpg on the way up and 42mpg on the way back. Wasn't hanging around coming back either with lots of caravans and camper vans on the road. Almost didn't have a car at all when an idiot biker decided to not bother slowing for a bend and ended up going straight off the road and into a ditch! Also have to say that I love the gti especially on the roads to and from Skye. Never felt wanting over taking and passed things with ease even when I forgot to change down a cog 🙊
Nice, that's quite good mpg. I'm going to take a nice week long(not during school holidays) drive up there when I get my sisters clubsport next year. I haven't been on any nice driving roads when I've been up there over the last few years.
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Just back from trip to Skye and can report 44mpg on the way up and 42mpg on the way back. Wasn't hanging around coming back either with lots of caravans and camper vans on the road. Almost didn't have a car at all when an idiot biker decided to not bother slowing for a bend and ended up going straight off the road and into a ditch! Also have to say that I love the gti especially on the roads to and from Skye. Never felt wanting over taking and passed things with ease even when I forgot to change down a cog 🙊
Glad you're enjoying it, that's pretty much the economy I get on a long drive too, very impressive given the amount of fun you can have at the same time!
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Hope you enjoyed the trip and the petrol stations all worked out right for you in the end. thats impressive MPG, Just hope I repeat mine or better it at the end of the month when I take the CS road th NC500 with it full of camping gear
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Really enjoyed the trip and enjoying the driving also helps :smiley: