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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mon2s on 02 May 2017, 17:59

Title: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: mon2s on 02 May 2017, 17:59
Anyone received their Mk7.5 with the Discover Nav Pro option yet?

I have Nav Pro on my Mk7 and it seemed natural to spec it on my Mk7.5 original order which is now cancelled due to foglightgate.   

Now I am re-ordering, I'm tempted to stick with the standard unit given some of the reviews of the Pro in terms of gesture control not being very good and the lack of the useful buttons down the sides.  It seems it might be better to forgo the larger screen in order to retain the buttons and volume knob etc.  Any thoughts or reviews?
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 02 May 2017, 18:39
I haven't got mine yet but one thing I do know is that with basic nav you can't have the map on the unit and displayed on the virtual dash... I perceived that as a shortfall.

Will see if I am right :-)
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: Don76 on 03 May 2017, 16:40
With the std nav, what happens on main screen when the nav map is displayed on the AID? I know for sure with the std nav unit you can still show maps on the AID.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 03 May 2017, 16:59
Its one or the other with standard NAV.... blank Nav screen when its on AID.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: hog_hedge on 03 May 2017, 17:04
I haven't got mine yet but one thing I do know is that with basic nav you can't have the map on the unit and displayed on the virtual dash... I perceived that as a shortfall.

Will see if I am right :-)

It means you can have sat nav on your AID and then media/car play/radio/car info on your main screen. Do you really need two displays showing the same info?
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 03 May 2017, 18:37
Depends if it's the same info...
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 03 May 2017, 18:54
Depends if it's the same info...

The car can't be in two places at once so it would have to have the same info.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 03 May 2017, 19:47
There are several different types of nav information that are all differently useful, maybe having more visibility would be useful, but we shall see :-)
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: TonyJ on 03 May 2017, 20:33
With the std nav, what happens on main screen when the nav map is displayed on the AID? I know for sure with the std nav unit you can still show maps on the AID.

When you are in Navigation mode and show the map on the Active Info Display, you cannot show the same map on the main screen. However, you can show another view on the main screen (eg. radio, CD etc. ) if you want to (and keep the map on the AID).
Unless you are actually following a route (ie getting route guidance), then yes, the main screen is blank if you press NAV.

However (and this is a pretty good function), if you are actually following a route, and the map is displayed on the AID, the main screen shows a list of the next 3 turns you need to take, and the mileage to them. This milage counts down as you approach them.

So yes, not having the map duplicated may seem an issue, but you can always display something else on the main, and, if actually following route guidance, you get additional directional information on the main screen.

Note that if you are showing the map on the main screen, one of the button options is to toggle between AID and main screen.

Hope this makes sense......

Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 03 May 2017, 21:29
Interesting. Thanks for sharing that.

That's the trouble with ordering early, you really haven't got a solid idea of what things do.

I'd like to hear anyone talk about the 7.5 navpro experience too... Surely someone must have one? Although I noted it's one of the least common options in my poll...
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 May 2017, 21:51
The pro Nav used to make sense in the early Mk7 days if you wanted to splash out. The MIB1 composition media /  discover Nav was a bit rubbish. Tiny low res screen. Slow. Ugly. Lost in the dash. The pro Nav was a big leap up in specs.

The mib2 generation brought big improvements to the Discover Nav - much closer to the spec of the Pro, barring the screen size.

With the facelift, I think the pro nav would be very hard to justify. The Discover is now same screen size (8.5) as the old Pro and it has physical volume / zoom buttons that the pro loses.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: mon2s on 04 May 2017, 07:00
The pro Nav used to make sense in the early Mk7 days if you wanted to splash out. The MIB1 composition media /  discover Nav was a bit rubbish. Tiny low res screen. Slow. Ugly. Lost in the dash. The pro Nav was a big leap up in specs.

The mib2 generation brought big improvements to the Discover Nav - much closer to the spec of the Pro, barring the screen size.

With the facelift, I think the pro nav would be very hard to justify. The Discover is now same screen size (8.5) as the old Pro and it has physical volume / zoom buttons that the pro loses.

Thanks - this was my thoughts too and given the 'holy trinity of gimmickery' type comments of some reviews I have now decided to save £1325 and stick with the standard Discover with the bonus of retaining a proper volume knob and menu selector buttons.  I find it quite frustrating/dangerous using the touch screen on my Mk7 Pro unit so want to avoid full touch screen too.

As long as there is no impact on sound quality - my current Pro is combined with Dynaudio which I will certainly be opting for again - well worth the money IMO
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 04 May 2017, 09:49
One thing I don't think ever changed between CM/Nav/NavPro was the audio quality.... that was changed with adding dynaudio.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: p3asa on 04 May 2017, 09:53
Has the resolution caught up with each other?

Bigger screen with lower resolution isn't going to look good next to one with a higher res. Although you would never know if you haven't seen the Pro Nav.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 May 2017, 10:13
Has the resolution caught up with each other?

Bigger screen with lower resolution isn't going to look good next to one with a higher res. Although you would never know if you haven't seen the Pro Nav.

I imagine the resolution is the same. The MIB2 Disco Nav resolution is the same as the MIB2 pro nav.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 04 May 2017, 10:24
New Navpro is 9.2 inches, a different aspect ratio to the old one and 1280x640 resolution as opposed to 8 inch 800x600 previously.

Maybe..just maybe the actual touch screen will be more responsive.... but we shall see!
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: Sootchucker on 04 May 2017, 11:18
I agree on paper the new Nav Pro is a better spec, but every MK7.5 I've seen in dealers with it fitted was absolutely covered in fingerprints - I thought my Nav Pro (MIB2) was bad, but they look horrendous to keep clean ?

Probably something to do with it having no buttons so everything has to be done with a touch on the screen. At least with the earlier units, you could change volume, change source etc. without having to actually touch it.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 04 May 2017, 11:39
Maybe voice control works properly, easily and without hiccups on the Mib3? Might stop sticky fingers :)
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: dervy on 04 May 2017, 12:29
My mk7.5 Golf R arrived last week and it has the new nav pro fitted. I must be honest and say that I wouldn't have specced it myself, but my faithful dealer found a car with everything else I wanted (except dynaudio) and got it to me in two weeks! There is no doubt that it looks pretty cool and the resolution is much better than the discover nav on my Mk7 GTD. When the system is switched off it clearly shows up fingerprints, but these are not really visible when it is in operation. Even as a technophobe, I find the system pretty easy to understand and operate. Having said that, using the touchscreen when in motion is not easy and the gesture control seems to work when it wants to. In conclusion, it looks great, but £1350!!!! I'd think twice. Hope this helps
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 04 May 2017, 12:50
Interesting.

Have you tried the new voice control? Try saying "hello Volkswagen" :D
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: dervy on 04 May 2017, 12:59
I think that is an extra in addition to £1350!
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 04 May 2017, 16:13
No... its built in...its only optional on basic nav.
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: dervy on 04 May 2017, 21:26
That's what you get when you haven't specced something. I will be trying it out as soon as I get a screw removed from my 400 mile tyre!
Title: Re: Mk7.5 Discover Nav Pro
Post by: fredgroves on 04 May 2017, 22:37
If the "hello" doesn't work, push the voice command button on the steering wheel