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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: kane1210 on 14 April 2017, 21:08
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Yo! Thinking of switching from gtd to the 7.5 gti
What sort of real world mpg we hitting in these? Mk7 GTI guys I'm mainly asking!
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Ben
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Good choice. Long term average for me is 37 mpg. I can get 44 on 30 mile run with no traffic jams and not being tailgated by BMWs.
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Just over 36mpg over the last 3yrs 9 mnths.
45+ is easy on a long cruise. 20- when having too much fun.
All without diseasal guilt though...
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I've never seen over 40, but I am averaging over 35, over 10K of mixed miles.
Also having a lot more enjoyment, all the time, than I did with my GTD. The performance diesel is an awesome piece of engineering, but has no soul.
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Same here averaged around 39.7 on runs with abit of fun inbetween that being said with usual work run that did to around 30 due to only bein around 9 mile round trip.
Being realistic people don't usually go for a performance car and query the fuel return to me it's all about an iconic car and of course th grin factor :whistle: :whistle:
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Had 45mpg going from Midlands up to the Highlands on Normal mode including rush hour through Glasgow. Best long term was just over 40mpg.
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I get about 36mpg long term with mostly A roads and motorway driving. On a long motorway cruise I can get 40+.
Short trips around town will see mpg in the mid to high 20s. This is on a pre-facelift Golf.
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I have a short commute of just over 5 miles, in the winter it often drops to around 28mpg, in the summer 33+. On long motoway journeys usually 40-42. If I'm a bit more careful 45 is easily achievable. I have managed 50 on a couple of occasions on a longer commute of 18 miles, almost all motorway when it has been very busy and having to do around 50 mph. Really boring though!
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Day to day true 35 to 37mpg. If you can be bothered to drive at a true 70 ,on motorway ,then 40 plus possible. Saw 44mpg when in holiday traffic doing a steady 50 to 60mph.
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I'm getting an average of 32 in my dsg pp gti. The auto box seems to eat more fuel than a manual.
I do about 18k a year but I still can't bring myself to buy a diesel. The golf is a lot more efficient than my supercharged range rover sport or impreza ever were though.
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Autos are always a bit thirstier no matter what VW say.
Also higher octane fuel can help for the GTI and R.
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I've never seen over 40, but I am averaging over 35, over 10K of mixed miles.
Autos are always a bit thirstier no matter what VW say.
Also higher octane fuel can help for the GTI and R.
Well my GTI is DSG, I run it on Shell V Power Nitro Plus and averaged 39.6 mpg over 303 miles from Yeovil to Scarborough, yesterday. 50/50 motorway and A/B roads, travelling as fast as seemed "sensible" and sometimes a bit more! I know I could have averaged over 40, being a bit more "sensible", but that's not why I bought the car.
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Autos are always a bit thirstier no matter what VW say.
I think the problem with a DSG gear box is that it is just so easy and enjoyable to accelerate hard. Driven with a lighter right foot and they should be just as economical. Especially the new 7 speed with the tall 7th gear.
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Wow! That's some pretty amazing numbers! Had my mk7 gtd for 4 years now and havnt been able to fault it! But petrol turbo is calling my name!! So see you soon guys!
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I'm having similar thoughts - I've got my GTD for another 18 months of so and have averaged 45mpg over the last 58k....but more power keeps calling me.
I had a GTi with DSG as a loaner and didn't think the car was well suited to the 'box, it always seemed to select the wrong gear for me. Odd.
The DSG box learns how you drive and you have to learn how to drive it! Takes a bit of getting used to, but, with the DSG in "D" you can make it do more or less what you want it to, just with the throttle. If all else fails, use the paddles!
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Manual GTI with just under 10k miles, run on V Power since tank 1. Long term average is c36mpg, but I quite regularly see 40mpg without trying too hard.
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Should have got a GTI..........Should have got a GTI...... :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
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Should have got a GTI..........Should have got a GTI...... :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Something to look forward too for the next change then :smiley:
Very pleased with mine on all counts, I can perfectly understand why people buy GTDs, even considered one myself, but the GTI just ticks so many boxes including the economy.
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Its £50 a month difference between 20k miles in a manual GTI vs a manual GTD using this:
http://www.nextgreencar.com/tools/fuel-cost-calculator/
~3p a mile more.
Personally, I'd sooner not find the £50 a month because I'm not driving for pleasure, but... anyway, I thought I'd add this perspective
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Its £50 a month difference between 20k miles in a manual GTI vs a manual GTD using this:
http://www.nextgreencar.com/tools/fuel-cost-calculator/
~3p a mile more.
Personally, I'd sooner not find the £50 a month because I'm not driving for pleasure, but... anyway, I thought I'd add this perspective
Using that calculator I am only saving £1320 in the GTD over a GTi and an R would be costing £1360 more than a GTi a year.
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Yeah thats roughly the difference between the three.
If I dangled £1300 quid in front of you in pound notes, would you think "a bit more zoomy car is what I want"?
Over 3 years that £3.9k of net pay, what 6.5k of gross salary? thats how 3p a mile snowballs into quite a big packet.
As a place to be while travelling, any of the performance golfs are lovely. Maybe sometimes its best to bury the need for performance and be sensible.
I dunno, I'm a tight Yorkshireman and worst still, my Yorkshire wife has handbag based desires on my earnings!
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Yeah thats roughly the difference between the three.
If I dangled £1300 quid in front of you in pound notes, would you think "a bit more zoomy car is what I want"?
Over 3 years that £3.9k of net pay, what 6.5k of gross salary? thats how 3p a mile snowballs into quite a big packet.
As a place to be while travelling, any of the performance golfs are lovely. Maybe sometimes its best to bury the need for performance and be sensible.
I dunno, I'm a tight Yorkshireman and worst still, my Yorkshire wife has handbag based desires on my earnings!
No I don't think would but as it happens my mileage is going down to around 10k a year :smiley:
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30+mpg :sad:...40mpg :angry:...I'm obviously doing something very wrong...averaging 30 on a good day, admittedly that is a shortish 7 mile commute, 5 mile on motorway with little traffic. Think I'd better put some V Power in next fill and try a bit harder.
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30+mpg :sad:...40mpg :angry:...I'm obviously doing something very wrong...averaging 30 on a good day, admittedly that is a shortish 7 mile commute, 5 mile on motorway with little traffic. Think I'd better put some V Power in next fill and try a bit harder.
Hi Pixwix :smiley: I recall we had an exchange a few months back about this, still no improvement? From your description above, getting to 40 seems unlikely as the run is too short and a good proportion of it is with a cold engine. I'd expect around 33-36 from mine but can't be sure as clearly haven't tried your route. How fast are you going, honestly now.... Better economy is going to be under 70 and best 60 and under. Does your car use any oil? Despite being sceptical, I filled up with Tesco Momentum and it does seem to have made a difference, economy is very good and it seems to run a bit better. It could be all in my head though :rolleyes: but I think for £2.50 extra a tank, it's probably worth it.
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Using that calculator I am only saving £1320 in the GTD over a GTi and an R would be costing £1360 more than a GTi a year.
Sorry, I don't follow that. How is the GTI £1320 more? Are you saying that the Golf R is £2680 more than a GTD? Are you filling that GTD with green diesel :wink:
My mileage has dropped a lot also. The GTD is barely warmed up on my journey in and out of town. I still expect the GTI to be more expensive to run. The difference should be less than £1 a day for me and it should be worth it.
Fair enough that adds up, but there are other things I would rather cut back on.
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Using that calculator I am only saving £1320 in the GTD over a GTi and an R would be costing £1360 more than a GTi a year.
Sorry, I don't follow that. How is the GTI £1320 more? Are you saying that the Golf R is £2680 more than a GTD? Are you filling that GTD with green diesel :wink:
My mileage has dropped a lot also. The GTD is barely warmed up on my journey in and out of town. I still expect the GTI to be more expensive to run. The difference should be less than £1 a day for me and it should be worth it.
Fair enough that adds up, but there are other things I would rather cut back on.
What part of it don't you understand? What is green diesel or do you mean red diesel?
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Sorry, I don't follow that. How is the GTI £1320 more? Are you saying that the Golf R is £2680 more than a GTD?
Go and use the website... you put in two cars to compare, how many miles a year you do and it gives you options for "real world" or "manufacturer" consumption figures.
I don't know how many miles our friend inputted, but it must be more than 20k pa, because at 20k it was about £600 pa for GTD vs GTI and yes, double that for GTD vs R.
Actually, I guess it must have been something like 45k pa he input!
Thats a hell of a lot of miles! Are you an uber driver? lol
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What part of it don't you understand? What is green diesel or do you mean red diesel?
Fred has hit the nail on the head. I didn't realise that you did so many miles. Between the time you spend in your car and the time you spend on this forum - how do you get any work done :tongue:
You said recently that you were Irish. And you don't get the green diesel reference :huh:
Just so you know, agricultural diesel in Ireland is green. Though I'm guessing you already know that.
Reference, Ireland = green dye - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dyes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dyes)
From that link - this bit is interesting - "On 18 November 2014, a new measure to combat fuel laundering should result in the illegal trade being "virtually eliminated" in the United Kingdom, according to the HM Revenue and Customs. A new dye will be introduced in April 2015 in the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland."
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Sorry, I don't follow that. How is the GTI £1320 more? Are you saying that the Golf R is £2680 more than a GTD?
Go and use the website... you put in two cars to compare, how many miles a year you do and it gives you options for "real world" or "manufacturer" consumption figures.
I don't know how many miles our friend inputted, but it must be more than 20k pa, because at 20k it was about £600 pa for GTD vs GTI and yes, double that for GTD vs R.
Actually, I guess it must have been something like 45k pa he input!
Thats a hell of a lot of miles! Are you an uber driver? lol
I put in 60,000 miles a year because that was the mileage I was doing when I ordered the car. I have somewhere around 7k on it already. However my annual mileage is going down to around 10k later in the year but I didnt know that when I ordered the car.
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Same as me then. My mileage was going to be around 20-25k a year but then due to a position change at work (promotion), it's dropped massively to around 9-10k per year. If I'd have known that at the time of ordering last year, I would have most certainly been driving a GTI and not my GTD right now, and to hell with the added fuel costs for such a small mileage.
Ah well, such is life. It's not like the GTD imposes massive penalties on me over a GTI (just a little bit slower, a little more noisy and not "quite" as sharp), but overall it's still a cracking car, and for me is averaging approx. 45mpg and that's just to and from work (around 8-9 miles each way), with nearly 60mpg on a run. I know the GTI would be about 10-15mpg down but that's still not bad for a 220-230ps hot hatch !
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What part of it don't you understand? What is green diesel or do you mean red diesel?
Fred has hit the nail on the head. I didn't realise that you did so many miles. Between the time you spend in your car and the time you spend on this forum - how do you get any work done :tongue:
You said recently that you were Irish. And you don't get the green diesel reference :huh:
Just so you know, agricultural diesel in Ireland is green. Though I'm guessing you already know that.
Reference, Ireland = green dye - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dyes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dyes)
From that link - this bit is interesting - "On 18 November 2014, a new measure to combat fuel laundering should result in the illegal trade being "virtually eliminated" in the United Kingdom, according to the HM Revenue and Customs. A new dye will be introduced in April 2015 in the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland."
I've lived in the UK for years now but I grew up on a farm in Ireland and the diesel we used was red and if it is green now I didn't know that it was changed.
As for being on here and doing a lot of driving, have you never used the internet and drove at the same time :whistle:
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I've lived in the UK for years now but I grew up on a farm in Ireland and the diesel we used was red and if it is green now I didn't know that it was changed.
As for being on here and doing a lot of driving, have you never used the internet and drove at the same time :whistle:
lol... no never :shocked: :smiley:
Hundreds of drivers convicted for illegal use of green diesel - http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/hundreds-of-drivers-convicted-for-illegal-use-of-green-diesel-35309043.html (http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/hundreds-of-drivers-convicted-for-illegal-use-of-green-diesel-35309043.html)
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30+mpg :sad:...40mpg :angry:...I'm obviously doing something very wrong...averaging 30 on a good day, admittedly that is a shortish 7 mile commute, 5 mile on motorway with little traffic. Think I'd better put some V Power in next fill and try a bit harder.
Hi Pixwix :smiley: I recall we had an exchange a few months back about this, still no improvement? From your description above, getting to 40 seems unlikely as the run is too short and a good proportion of it is with a cold engine. I'd expect around 33-36 from mine but can't be sure as clearly haven't tried your route. How fast are you going, honestly now.... Better economy is going to be under 70 and best 60 and under. Does your car use any oil? Despite being sceptical, I filled up with Tesco Momentum and it does seem to have made a difference, economy is very good and it seems to run a bit better. It could be all in my head though :rolleyes: but I think for £2.50 extra a tank, it's probably worth it.
It has improved since I changed my 2 front tyres due to the slow puncture so my tyre pressure was low...in fact I looked down today and it was 31.9, felt a,bit of a fraud with my post. I probably am doing 70 on the motorway stretch, oh and maybe the extra 10 percent, oh and add the extra 2 as well :whistle: Doing a motorway trip to the airport in a few days so going to raise my bar and hope for 35.
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I've had mine since December last year (2nd owner) and I reset the long term average mpg once I took delivery.
My 9 mile A and B road commute, coupled with only using V Power means I average 30mpg. That has gone up by 2mpg since adding a Superchips map via Bluefin handset 3 weeks ago. Mine is DSG too.
At a steady 70 mph cruise it will easily settle in the mid-high 40's.
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30+mpg :sad:...40mpg :angry:...I'm obviously doing something very wrong...averaging 30 on a good day, admittedly that is a shortish 7 mile commute, 5 mile on motorway with little traffic. Think I'd better put some V Power in next fill and try a bit harder.
Hi Pixwix :smiley: I recall we had an exchange a few months back about this, still no improvement? From your description above, getting to 40 seems unlikely as the run is too short and a good proportion of it is with a cold engine. I'd expect around 33-36 from mine but can't be sure as clearly haven't tried your route. How fast are you going, honestly now.... Better economy is going to be under 70 and best 60 and under. Does your car use any oil? Despite being sceptical, I filled up with Tesco Momentum and it does seem to have made a difference, economy is very good and it seems to run a bit better. It could be all in my head though :rolleyes: but I think for £2.50 extra a tank, it's probably worth it.
It has improved since I changed my 2 front tyres due to the slow puncture so my tyre pressure was low...in fact I looked down today and it was 31.9, felt a,bit of a fraud with my post. I probably am doing 70 on the motorway stretch, oh and maybe the extra 10 percent, oh and add the extra 2 as well :whistle: Doing a motorway trip to the airport in a few days so going to raise my bar and hope for 35.
So 80ish and only 7 miles? I think we have the answer then :grin: AND low tyre pressures!! So, either you slow down and improve the economy or, you accept 30ish is normal under the circumstances and carry on enjoying driving your car - I think the second is the best option :whistle: :smiley:
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The fuel economy depends how you drive the car and the driving environment... around town I can get around 25mpg constantly screwing in sport mode or if I drive normal in eco mode 32mpg.. most of my driving depends on my mood and now with the new speeding regulations so strict 30mpg around town will be possible.. A lot of people seem to think GTI uses a lot of fuel. After around 10k mileage it does massively improve.. I've been on motorway cruises where I can get 44mpg minimum at 75-80 and my mum gets the same in a 1.0litre ecoboost fiesta! I have seen up to 66mpg on the motorway cruising at 75mph (have to admit it was downhill ish) but even up hill motorway cruising 70mph I can get around 50/55mpg.. got to London and back on 1 full tank few months ago doing 70-90mph so very impressive!
I am new to this site, if anyone knows how to post pictures let me know I have some evidence to back up my conclusions 👌🏻
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now with the new speeding regulations so strict 30mpg around town will be possible..
Just as a side note, the new fine structures are for use in cases taken to magistrates. If it's a penalty notice being applied automatically by roadside/scamera then you'll still get the old fine.
It'd be an administrative nightmare to understand everyones individual wages for every single fine.
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Not sure about all that buddy.. I'm too young to get any kind of points 😂 I'm only 21 getting a GTI was costly enough although my insurance wasn't too bad. 1700 2 years NCB policy holder so I'm trying to make it 3 years NCB and no points