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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GolfTi on 04 April 2017, 20:24
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Is anyone running a bluefin on their mk7 GTI?
According to their website it is available for the GTI up to 3/2015 models, mine is a 2013.
I had one on my mk6 and loved it. :cool:
I remember the mk7 couldn't be mapped using the bluefin when it first came out but it seems as though it now can be.
Anyone actually using one at the moment?
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Very weird, I came here to ask this exact question for my 2013 GTI PP after looking at these last night! :smiley:
The gains from the Bluefin look quite modest and well within the tolerances of the engine, based on Revo/APR maps that are getting about 300 bhp.
The power curve from the Superchips map (Bluefin) is very similar to stock, just with obviously more output.
Lots of people using the JB4/DTUK boxes which are equal on price, produce 300 bhp and are adjustable - you've just gotta spend a bit more time fitting them.
I'm on the fence!
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I went for it, should be with me tomorrow.
Will let you how I get on after a 300 mile roundtrip to St Athan this Sunday :cool:
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I went for it, should be with me tomorrow.
Will let you how I get on after a 300 mile roundtrip to St Athan this Sunday :cool:
Interested to hear how you get on, i'm keen to get a bit more poke from the car but keep reading horror stories to clutch slip due to the extra torque :undecided:
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i have allways rated superchips bluefin ,i have one fitted to my transit van and its been on there 10 years with no problems and it flys for a van :smiley:
they used to chip the police volvo that show what sort of company they are :cool:
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i have allways rated superchips bluefin ,i have one fitted to my transit van and its been on there 10 years with no problems and it flys for a van :smiley:
they used to chip the police volvo that show what sort of company they are :cool:
Makes sense actually, a friend of mine bought a ex-traffic Octavia VRS from a Police auction and that was remapped to 280 bhp, which is the same as the Superchips takes my GTI to.
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I went for it, should be with me tomorrow.
Will let you how I get on after a 300 mile roundtrip to St Athan this Sunday :cool:
Interested to hear how you get on, i'm keen to get a bit more poke from the car but keep reading horror stories to clutch slip due to the extra torque :undecided:
Depends how demanding you are of the car I guess. I'm quite a lazy driver 95% (DSG on mine) of the time but thought the car lacked a little grunt when I did demand some of the power.
Having said that, I came to the GTI from a GSXR 600 so I think my perception of speed is a little altered. :wink:
Will let you know how it goes. For what it's worth, just seen there's a chap selling a bluefin handset on here - already reset too and for half the price of what I just paid!
Edit: Revo/APR take these engines to well over 300 bhp and 500Nm of torque from a Stage 1 tune on 95 Ron. Superchips is less than that.
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Let us know how you get on, ease of use and feel of the car, especially 3 - 4 - 5th.
I was impressed with my last one on the mk6, I even used to revert to stock every now and again just to remind me of the difference...
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Let us know how you get on, ease of use and feel of the car, especially 3 - 4 - 5th.
I was impressed with my last one on the mk6, I even used to revert to stock every now and again just to remind me of the difference...
Noticable improvement whilst in D (I have DSG), engine feels more comfortable when cruising along and wanting to shift up to 4th and 5th.
Seems to have ironed out the delay from the throttle, previously it felt like there was a deadzone where nothing happened. Response is certainly better now.
Can really hear the stock DV blowing off when you come off the throttle whilst on boost. I have removed the soundproofing from the bonnet so could hear it before but I think it sounds louder, maybe I was paying more attention to it on my test flight just now.
The pull in 3-4-5 is vastly improved, didn't get up to 6 whilst in using paddle shifts, kept running out of road. I try and be kind to the clutch/box whilst in 1-2 so didn't give it much more than 30% throttle in either of those gears.
DSG farts seemed to have disappeared, maybe because I was shifting later than 5k which seems to be the sweet spot I've found. Will see tomorrow.
Inital impressions are very positive, such a clean and easy performance mod. Well worth the £415 in my opinion.
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thanks for the update keep us posted Gloria i might invest in one myself :cool:
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Checked my insurance today and I got several quotes cheaper than I'm paying now with bluefin remap included.
So what's the worst that can happen?
Clutch issues?
Wheel bearings?
Anything else that might go pop?
Did 20k+ in the mk6 without issues so might just go for it.
Warranty not a problem for me now, extended warranty runs out in July.
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The other obvious one is the wife - she blew a fuse when I had the mk 6 done - HOW much are you paying??
(I haven't mentioned it this time, I'm getting older and might forget..)
I think the kids needed new shoes at the time but I suppose it increased their resilience to blisters and bullying.
They love me still - somehow.
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Checked my insurance today and I got several quotes cheaper than I'm paying now with bluefin remap included.
So what's the worst that can happen?
Clutch issues?
Wheel bearings?
Anything else that might go pop?
Did 20k+ in the mk6 without issues so might just go for it.
Warranty not a problem for me now, extended warranty runs out in July.
The worst that can happen is the car gets hit by a meteorite.
So long as you don't hammer it from low revs in high gears the clutch shouldn't get too upset, nor the wheel bearings.
If you managed 20k with a Bluefin mk6 then the mk7 should fare no worse and you'll be able to afford shoes out of the insurance savings...
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Did 360 miles yesterday through towns, A, B and some of the M4 and it was brilliant on all of them. It has transformed the car and even my MPG has gone up, despite some very spirited driving through Somerset, Wilts and Hants countryside on the way to and from St Athan in South Wales yesterday.
Didn't experience any clutch slip but as I said before, I'm not launching the car in 1st. Even in 2nd I'm still not using more than 50% of the throttle and that's because you don't need to.
I imagine traction will be a bit more interesting as the road temps drop but what FWD or RWD performance car isn't going to be?!
The diverter valve is chirping like mad now when pressing on and the induction sound is very addictive, coupled with the existing Pipercross panel filter I have and removal of the plastic weather filter in the bottom of the airbox. Might look to replace the DV for the GFB DV+ for peace of mind, but I know the stock DV is used on the R with a bigger turbo.
The delivery is smooth and there's no dead zone in the initial stage of pressing the throttle pedal or any flat spots in the rev range.
Impressed. Well done Superchips.
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Oops.
Another moment of weakness - Bluefin ordered.
Must remember to tell the wife.......
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Must remember to tell the wife.......it cost £19.99
:smiley:
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Can i just ask why people have gone with bluefin and not say dtuk? Or others 😉
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Ease of use, moderate and smooth increase in power and torque. The ECU map is changed with no additional hardware apart from the bluefin hand unit. Perfect for me - on and off in a few minutes.
3 yrs on my mk6 and loved it.
Diesel Tuning UK does not seem right for a GTI.
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Will it show up on the flash count of the ecu come service time?
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Very impressed with the bluefin.
Easy to install and very noticeable power increase, it has really transformed the car making it a much more satisfying drive.
Light throttle only in 1st or 2nd , 3rd - 6th - brilliant, it just pulls and pulls.
Insurance was surprising - only a tiny increase :huh:
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Can i just ask why people have gone with bluefin and not say dtuk? Or others 😉
Again, just for the ease of use - it's just plug and play. Also, the fact that the power curve on the new software is the same as stock, so the characteristics of the engine feels the same but with the additional power - if that makes sense?
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Are the bluefin guys riding manual cars?
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I ordered mine last week so will hopefully be here tomorrow. Mine is a manual so I will be able to feed back how it is. I'm guessing you are asking because of the manual clutch issues! Are they really that bad? Who knows. I think the bluefin is one of the more reserved remaps out there so will see
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I ordered mine last week so will hopefully be here tomorrow. Mine is a manual so I will be able to feed back how it is. I'm guessing you are asking because of the manual clutch issues! Are they really that bad? Who knows. I think the bluefin is one of the more reserved remaps out there so will see
I have DSG. I was wondering how that behaves with the Bluefin. On my ED30 I had the dsg map to go with Revo Stg1 so the gear changes were'nt all over the place.
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I'm not sure about that mate, hopefully someone with Dsg can answer that for you! There doesn't seem to be many posts on here talking about remaps
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There was an article in last month's VW Driver magazine, unfortunately they tested the DSG software update before the engine remap. but may be worth a read.
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I ordered mine last week so will hopefully be here tomorrow. Mine is a manual so I will be able to feed back how it is. I'm guessing you are asking because of the manual clutch issues! Are they really that bad? Who knows. I think the bluefin is one of the more reserved remaps out there so will see
Looking forward to hearing what you think. I also have a manual.
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Is this Bluefin coming out at £419?
I thought they were considerably less on previous GTi vaiants?
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I paid £422 delivered from demon tweeks
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I ordered mine last week so will hopefully be here tomorrow. Mine is a manual so I will be able to feed back how it is. I'm guessing you are asking because of the manual clutch issues! Are they really that bad? Who knows. I think the bluefin is one of the more reserved remaps out there so will see
I have DSG. I was wondering how that behaves with the Bluefin. On my ED30 I had the dsg map to go with Revo Stg1 so the gear changes were'nt all over the place.
No problems whatsoever with my DSG.
The only thing I've noticed is the little bit of acceleration the car does for a split second when you're shifting up gears is more pronounced.
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Anybody know why Bluefin for the MK7 GTI 220ps isn't listed from 04/2015 onwards and only between 04/2013-03/2015?
Both engine types are the same CHHB.
Did something change to the ECU which prevents Bluefin operating via the OBD?
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Anybody know why Bluefin for the MK7 GTI 220ps isn't listed from 04/2015 onwards and only between 04/2013-03/2015?
Both engine types are the same CHHB.
Did something change to the ECU which prevents Bluefin operating via the OBD?
Highly doubt it but give them a call, 01280 816781
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Somewhere around March 2015 VW changed the encryption on the ECU's and Superchips Bluefin won't work on those ECUs.
I spoke to Superchips about it when I had my R first of all. Mine was registered early May 2015 so would have been built around the time the ECU changes came into being. They said my car would be 50/50 whether it was locked out or not so I went for a JB1 instead.
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Somewhere around March 2015 VW changed the encryption on the ECU's and Superchips Bluefin won't work on those ECUs.
I spoke to Superchips about it when I had my R first of all. Mine was registered early May 2015 so would have been built around the time the ECU changes came into being. They said my car would be 50/50 whether it was locked out or not so I went for a JB1 instead.
Thanks, you're right. I spoke with them yesterday and they have yet to overcome access issues to the ECU using Bluefin. Thats a shame as it looked like a nice and simple solution to adding/removing maps.
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I have a late 2016 car (Picked up end September) & asked bluefin for a quote to supply, sadly they said not at he minute but are working on it :)
"Dear Kelvyn,
Thank you for your enquiry.
VAG changed the OBD security in March 2015, and we have not been able to offer bluefin for later cars.
However, we have been making good progress, and bluefin for your car should be available soon.
Please keep an eye on our website and social media for news.
Kind regards,
Dominic"
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I'm still on the fence which remap to go for but quite like the sound of the Bluefin. Maybe not as aggressive as some but will probably cause less wear and tear over the years.
I take it you can flash back to original map if required as well?
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Just installed stage one blue fin to my 2014 GTI PP . Found it very good but its not my first blue fin , had 2012 R mapped to stage two with blue fin .
Anyway I had engine management light on ( full miltek fitted just before the blue fin )
So now I've up it to the stage two today ! Not driven much yet but what I've seen seems encouraging and probably not pushing to the limit like some maps can !
I would have been happy with stage one but due to the cat light I've went to two and don't regret it
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I'm still on the fence which remap to go for but quite like the sound of the Bluefin. Maybe not as aggressive as some but will probably cause less wear and tear over the years.
I take it you can flash back to original map if required as well?
Sorry it's a late reply, probably found your answer by now but yes you can flash back to stock map.
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Is anyone running a bluefin on their mk7 GTI?
According to their website it is available for the GTI up to 3/2015 models, mine is a 2013.
I had one on my mk6 and loved it. :cool:
I remember the mk7 couldn't be mapped using the bluefin when it first came out but it seems as though it now can be.
Anyone actually using one at the moment?
Is this an alternative to the Bluefin without getting a proper stage 1 remap?
https://tdi-tuning.com/car/volkswagen/golf/20-tsi-227-bhp-230-ps-169-kw-300-nm-221-lbft/crtd4-multi-channel-petrol-tuning-box-chip
They have told me (and confirmed on the website) that this will increase power from 227bhp to 279 and torque up to 369nm. Which would be a decent increase for £380. And it can be easily removed if required and remapped if you change cars.
Thoughts?
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Is anyone running a bluefin on their mk7 GTI?
According to their website it is available for the GTI up to 3/2015 models, mine is a 2013.
I had one on my mk6 and loved it. :cool:
I remember the mk7 couldn't be mapped using the bluefin when it first came out but it seems as though it now can be.
Anyone actually using one at the moment?
Is this an alternative to the Bluefin without getting a proper stage 1 remap?
https://tdi-tuning.com/car/volkswagen/golf/20-tsi-227-bhp-230-ps-169-kw-300-nm-221-lbft/crtd4-multi-channel-petrol-tuning-box-chip
They have told me (and confirmed on the website) that this will increase power from 227bhp to 279 and torque up to 369nm. Which would be a decent increase for £380. And it can be easily removed if required and remapped if you change cars.
Thoughts?
Quite a small gain on torque in comparison to the Superchips map I have, see here: https://tinyurl.com/yda4wz4e
I paid £415 for the handset and the process took about 30 mins to install, all whilst sitting comfortably in the drivers seat with my laptop and the handset.
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Is anyone running a bluefin on their mk7 GTI?
According to their website it is available for the GTI up to 3/2015 models, mine is a 2013.
I had one on my mk6 and loved it. :cool:
I remember the mk7 couldn't be mapped using the bluefin when it first came out but it seems as though it now can be.
Anyone actually using one at the moment?
Is this an alternative to the Bluefin without getting a proper stage 1 remap?
https://tdi-tuning.com/car/volkswagen/golf/20-tsi-227-bhp-230-ps-169-kw-300-nm-221-lbft/crtd4-multi-channel-petrol-tuning-box-chip
They have told me (and confirmed on the website) that this will increase power from 227bhp to 279 and torque up to 369nm. Which would be a decent increase for £380. And it can be easily removed if required and remapped if you change cars.
Thoughts?
Quite a small gain on torque in comparison to the Superchips map I have, see here: https://tinyurl.com/yda4wz4e
I paid £415 for the handset and the process took about 30 mins to install, all whilst sitting comfortably in the drivers seat with my laptop and the handset.
Yes, they do that for the newer Golf as that seems a better system. For some reason as well, despite having same bhp figure, the GTI 7.5 is well down on torque over the mk7 GTI PP? This tuning box only adding 50nm of torque as starts with 300, not the 350 of the earlier Golf PP.
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How are you 6MT guys fairing? Any clutch problems?
Looks like a good option as similar gains to APR low output.