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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: scanesare on 25 October 2016, 09:33
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Discover Navigation works very well but naturally sucks at POI's (as most car navigation systems). More often than not, I have to find the address of the place I'm headed from my smartphone and provide that address to the Navigation to start my journey. (I don't use Gmaps via Android Auto due to a number of inconveniences such as the lack of MFD integration or the fact you can't switch to other screens without losing all navigation info).
So, I was wondering how could the system be enriched with much more POI's than it has as stock. Is this even possible to do via some one-off update or the only way is to have the car permanently connected on-line?
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Well, you can bulk load POI's from CarNet online (assuming you had a MIB2) or from a SD car (if you have MIB1).
PocketGPS have all sorts of POI lists available (as do many other places).
I guess the big question is what do you actually want to be able to find?
You could spend a lot of time mucking around with this, creating a massive cumbersome list of POI's and still find the thing that you wanted wasn't there.
Isn't it easier to use a phone to find a postcode and just chuck that in?
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Hopefully the facelift will address this.
My last Audi was miles ahead of the Golf. You could go online and search for wherever you wanted and then had an option to navigate there.
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Like many things computer wise, VW (and other car manufacturers) seem pathetically slow at the uptake whilst still charging the earth for their lame crapware they load their cars with.
They really need to get some proper computer skills.
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Err. current MIB II can search on line for POI's - obviously you need to have your phone tethered first.
• Data is permanently updated via online search (Google®)
http://volkswagen-carnet.com/gb/en/start/app-overview/guide-inform/mod_poisearch.html?carModel=49cb9993-6bc1-4b3a-828a-c8326f933445#tab/open/d476bee1-a375-4e9f-8ee4-21fe4e3bd237
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As Sootchucker wrote, it is possible to directly access/search for online POI's and that would be one way solve it. Online connectivity for the MIB2 is there and works pretty well for those who don't mind having the car fully on-line all the time. I don't quite get the negativity.
The question is how/whether it is possible to do this without constant 4G and wi-fi tethering for which (both) I have a great dislike and limit their use to the absolute minimum, ie. not driving around with either of them enabled.
So, I'm guessing it has to be either a one-off online, mass POI update (if that's an option) or a manual POI update via the SD card (even from external sources if compatible). Anyone aware of any of that being possible or other non-permanently-online work-around?
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I had poi's on my nav pro and now have them on the mib2 in the Tiguan. I'll be using the same file on the new Golf when it comes, just uploaded onto the unit. Is that what you mean?
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I had poi's on my nav pro and now have them on the mib2 in the Tiguan. I'll be using the same file on the new Golf when it comes, just uploaded onto the unit. Is that what you mean?
Yes, what you describe sounds like what I'm after: much more extra POI's than what comes with stock maps. So where do I get these file(s) and how do I upload it onto the unit? Links are welcome.
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Depends what poi's you want. The nav system will only allow 10 poi's at any one time so you'd need to choose which ones you wanted.
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It should allow more than 10! People use the POI's with speed camera databases and sadly there are definitely more than 10 of them!
Maybe 10 user defined categories...
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So how does it work? Where do I get and how do I install the extra POI's? Links?
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http://en.poipoint.eu/jak-wgrac-poi?GPS=VW
That's the old way, there is a new way I think for MIB2 using CarNet - maybe someone else can help...
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You don't have to use car net to upload poi's and while there may be more than 10 the unit will only allow you to select 10 icons.
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Just to clarify, using the method Chris (McMaddy) mentions above (the same method I do), you can certainly load more than 10 individual POI categories on the system at the same time (I have around 25 on my Nav Pro), however (and this is the key point), the system will only allow you to show 10 out of however many you have loaded on screen at the same time.
So to show another category not already displayed, you need to untick one of 10 that are currently displaying to make room for it. TBH, I think it's a good idea otherwise the screen would be covered in POI's (especially when zoomed out a little) and you wouldn't be able to see anything really.
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Ahhh yes, POI's displayed on the map... not POI's you can search and navigate to!
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Thanks guys, the: "Go to Navigation settings and find the Update/Import POI option" which I deducted after all the comments is what answers my question. I had a quick look at it an hour ago and indeed there's an option to update POI's via an SD card so first part is done.
Second thing is to find the POI's I'm actually interested in. Ideally I'd like to be able to find any small shop's/company's address (big ones are already included as stock) much as I can do via Google Search. I know this is impossible but at least to get close to that. I guess some searching on POI suppliers will help but if anyone has good suggestions on sources of such POI's they are welcome :tongue:
I also saw the 10 category limitation. My question is if I search for a POI, belonging in a category that is currently un-checked will it show up in the results or not? If it does it's ok, I don't want to see everything on the map at all times but if not I guess I'd have to make sure which 10 categories are active every time depending on the POI I'm searching?
PS. Fredgroves posted at the same time as me and I guess that answers my last question. If it is in the system it will show up in search results regardless of whether its category is checked for showing or not, right?
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Yeah the search will work :)
Ahhhh so you want to load a list of non-mainstream businesses for the UK in? Eeeek that sort of data isn't readily available - if it was it would be advertisers gold dust.
I don't think you could even hoover google maps for it using one of the Google API's.
I thought you might have wanted more museums or Nandos or something easy :)
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Yeah the search will work :)
Ahhhh so you want to load a list of non-mainstream businesses for the UK in? Eeeek that sort of data isn't readily available - if it was it would be advertisers gold dust.
I don't think you could even hoover google maps for it using one of the Google API's.
I thought you might have wanted more museums or Nandos or something easy :)
Well, almost as you say. So I was looking for a big furniture store the other day (no, not IKEA) which is in my town but only the stores of Stockholm (of the same company) were in the system and that would be a very long drive... So in principle not every small enterprise, back road garage but rather a comprehensive list of types of places that are already in the stock POI list, but expanded to the entire Sweden, as opposed to just Stockholm (mainly).
PS. Congratulations, I believe that was your 1000th post? :smiley:
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Would you not be best going online if that is what you want to search for?
That would be in the 100,000 surely. Plus businesses change all the time.
EDIT: Didn't see your post above until I'd posted. Obviously if its just Ikea it will only be a few. You'd probably be quicker putting them in your favourites. :laugh: