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Title: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 23 October 2016, 20:21
Looks like Volkswagen could be teeing up a super hot Tiguan using the R engine and brakes etc. Interesting departure should VW expand the .:R brand.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/492401/2017-volkswagen-tiguan-r-potentially-spied-outside-the-nurburgring/
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Exonian on 24 October 2016, 09:02
Hmmm, a three tonne four wheeled garden shed with a 300bhp petrol engine.
Aside from the OAP "you don't have to bend down to get in" brigade I really struggle to see why these 'cars' are so popular.
What do they offer that a Golf doesn't, assuming you don't live in a muddy quagmire? And if you did then surely you'd buy something that was more appropriate to that type of living.

Heavy,
Crap on fuel.
No aerodynamics.
Ridiculously expensive tyres.
Not that much room inside considering it's probably bigger than a T6.

Ahh, yes, fashion.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: fredgroves on 24 October 2016, 09:40
Glad to see its not just me Exonian!
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 24 October 2016, 09:45
Ha ha! I'm not saying I'd like a Tiguan R. Just thought you chaps might find it interesting. Interesting from the point of view that VW may be about to expand the 'R' brand.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: GTD1414 on 24 October 2016, 11:03
Could possibly be something similar to the SQ5 but that a diesel..
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: dubber36 on 24 October 2016, 12:11
A 240PS diesel would have made more sense.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Booth11 on 24 October 2016, 12:24
Looks like Volkswagen could be teeing up a super hot Tiguan using the R engine and brakes etc. Interesting departure should VW expand the .:R brand.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/492401/2017-volkswagen-tiguan-r-potentially-spied-outside-the-nurburgring/

Dear God, no.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Booth11 on 24 October 2016, 12:24
Hmmm, a three tonne four wheeled garden shed with a 300bhp petrol engine.
Aside from the OAP "you don't have to bend down to get in" brigade I really struggle to see why these 'cars' are so popular.
What do they offer that a Golf doesn't, assuming you don't live in a muddy quagmire? And if you did then surely you'd buy something that was more appropriate to that type of living.

Heavy,
Crap on fuel.
No aerodynamics.
Ridiculously expensive tyres.
Not that much room inside considering it's probably bigger than a T6.

Ahh, yes, fashion.  :whistle:
Glad to see its not just me Exonian!

+1
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: wesbar on 24 October 2016, 12:25
agreed. they'd sell a lot more of those.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: jv on 24 October 2016, 12:36
A 240PS diesel would have made more sense.

There is one of those:

With more power on tap than even the current iteration of the iconic Golf GTI, Volkswagen is making its most potent Tiguan yet available for order in the UK this October.  The new 240 PS bi-turbo diesel, designated BiTDI, also offers an increase of fully 30 PS over the previous most powerful Tiguan, the 2.0 TSI seen in the preceding generation of the car.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 October 2016, 13:48
It's no different to a range rover, merc g wagon etc. Vw seem to be selling quite a few new tiguans and the R is probably the next step.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Exonian on 24 October 2016, 13:49
Ha ha! I'm not saying I'd like a Tiguan R. Just thought you chaps might find it interesting. Interesting from the point of view that VW may be about to expand the 'R' brand.
Interesting it is and well done for posting it up for discussion/dissection, it's just the wrong engine in our opinions. As Dubber said, you'd expect it to have the 240 Diesel which was confirmed by jv that it does but is more of an R-Line than an R.

VW used to have the R36 Passat which was a beast and more in keeping with the R image (4WD, hefty and lots of brute force from the engine) but the Tig R is maybe a step too far! Then again it's a niche car which may well sell in certain markets. I can see the 240 Diesel being quite popular, even I would approve of that.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Exonian on 24 October 2016, 13:49
A 240PS diesel would have made more sense.

There is one of those:

With more power on tap than even the current iteration of the iconic Golf GTI, Volkswagen is making its most potent Tiguan yet available for order in the UK this October.  The new 240 PS bi-turbo diesel, designated BiTDI, also offers an increase of fully 30 PS over the previous most powerful Tiguan, the 2.0 TSI seen in the preceding generation of the car.

Pics?  :grin:
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: dubber36 on 24 October 2016, 13:59

Pics?  :grin:

The 240 TDI is on the configurator. An R line 240 starts at £38,640.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Exonian on 24 October 2016, 14:02

Pics?  :grin:

The 240 TDI is on the configurator. An R line 240 starts at £38,640.  :shocked:
It was just a joke, jv often posts up press releases & it's my public duty to remind him to post up pics as well as text...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 October 2016, 15:39
Regardless of which Tiguan you spec it's a very expensive car and the biturbo diesel and petrol R are now in range rover and Audi sq territory.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 24 October 2016, 16:22
Regardless of which Tiguan you spec it's a very expensive car and the biturbo diesel and petrol R are now in range rover and Audi sq territory.

Indeed. But what discount could be achieved on this top-of-the-range Tiguan? 10-13% max? Even if that were possible it would still be bl**dy expensive!
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: fredgroves on 24 October 2016, 16:26
My thoughts on seeing one are that you basically get a golf'ish size interior with an exterior the size of a proper 4x4.

There are several of this sort of nasty thing out there, people buy them because they think that they are getting something bigger than a medium sized car, when all they are doing is getting something that they can't park and bash other people in the bloody car park.

:D
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Rhyso on 24 October 2016, 16:50
My thoughts on seeing one are that you basically get a golf'ish size interior with an exterior the size of a proper 4x4.

There are several of this sort of nasty thing out there, people buy them because they think that they are getting something bigger than a medium sized car, when all they are doing is getting something that they can't park and bash other people in the bloody car park.

:D

Well said  :grin: :grin:

If you want a big car get yoursel a proper estate, or Avant, or Touring or whatever you want to call them  :whistle: :grin: :whistle:
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 October 2016, 17:27
It's the high up driving position that a lot of people like and nothing nasty about them. Maybe owners on the Tiguan forum are saying the same about golf gti's and Rs.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Exonian on 24 October 2016, 21:18
It's the high up driving position that a lot of people like and nothing nasty about them. Maybe owners on the Tiguan forum are saying the same about golf gti's and Rs.  :whistle:

There's a Tiguan forum?

mumsnet.com?
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Damion on 24 October 2016, 22:13
We have the R line 2015, its a great car to drive, good in the Winter with the high clearance and looks nice next to the Golf!
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: wigit on 24 October 2016, 23:00
I like the new model Tiguan as i think the styling is great, whether I need a 300bhp one or a 38K one I am not so sure

Which they would put the 240ps in a GTD and give us the option of 4motion 
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: JoeGTI on 24 October 2016, 23:43
It's the high up driving position that a lot of people like and nothing nasty about them. Maybe owners on the Tiguan forum are saying the same about golf gti's and Rs.  :whistle:

There's a Tiguan forum?

mumsnet.com?

 :laugh:

I like the look of the new Tiguan too. The old one was a bit soft and mumsnet looking for my tastes but the new one is far more purposeful. That said, as others mentioned they aren't all that big inside. Their sole advantage that I can make out is the higher driving position and easier to lift kids in and out and they look imprsssive in the school car park. Hence all the mummies love em.

I think I'd have a Passat Estate instead. A proper roomy wagon.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 October 2016, 06:35
Didn't realise this forum was so snooty towards other cars!! The tiguan is one of the most popular SUV's and shows that not everybody that buys vw has to buy a golf R or a gti. All this talk of "it will ruin the R brand" is total nonsense. In reality does anyone really need to spend 40k on a tiguan, no. Do you really need to spend circa 30k on just a golf, no. Vw obviously think they can sell a tiguan R just like the clubsport s on the golf, not to everyone's looking but undoubtedly will sell and like the CSS have sold out.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: fredgroves on 25 October 2016, 07:01
I perfectly well understand the idea that people want/need a larger car to fit whatever in it.

What I don't understand is where its only the exterior that's large.

A friend of mine bought one of those Nissan Duke things because "having a baby means you need a bigger car". Its a Micra sized interior in a sumo wrestler bodyshell. Utterly pointless.

Still I'm sure it keeps the dent repair industry in business.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Sootchucker on 25 October 2016, 08:28
Well I for one really like the new Tiguan's - very stylish and I could see myself driving one next. - There I said it  :laugh:

Sat in one at the dealership a few months back and it's a really nice place to be. The SEL model is pretty well priced and complete with some really nice equipment such as the Audi TT style digital LCD dash and a full pano electric sunroof as standard.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 October 2016, 08:44
I agree, the perception is it's a bigger car so it must be roomier. It's mostly about the high up driving position and it being easier to get in and out of.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: Exonian on 25 October 2016, 08:50
Didn't realise this forum was so snooty towards other cars!! The tiguan is one of the most popular SUV's and shows that not everybody that buys vw has to buy a golf R or a gti. All this talk of "it will ruin the R brand" is total nonsense. In reality does anyone really need to spend 40k on a tiguan, no. Do you really need to spend circa 30k on just a golf, no. Vw obviously think they can sell a tiguan R just like the clubsport s on the golf, not to everyone's looking but undoubtedly will sell and like the CSS have sold out.

I don't think anyone was being snooty towards the Tiguan, it's a great looking VW based on a Golf platform.
HFO posted up for discussion the fact the R version would also have the Golf's 300 (soon to be 310) PS version rather than a bigger or at least higher torque output engine.

Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 October 2016, 13:52
The only problem with the new Tiguan is the cost.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: JB GTI on 25 October 2016, 21:58
I know that any forum will dim view anything other than the car it is based on (nothing new there) but nothing that has ever been said on any forum will influence my decision to buy any car. I won't buy a car based on other people's biased comments and never will. I buy a car for what I like the look of and what takes my fancy at the time. I personally really like the R Line Tiguan and would have one for my next car like a shot but having borrowed one for an extended test drive recently  I found out that it would be a proper pain in the A** to reverse down my drive into the garage in the dark and drizzle of a winters night without rearranging the profile of the door mirrors so may have to rethink my options. Several brokers are offering near £6k discount already I have configured my ideal car with £2K of options to just over £31K without really trying so with time this may get even better.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: DougL on 25 October 2016, 22:01
Have a 2.0 tdi SEL. 10% off. Huge inside. Handles like a barge though - fast through a corner and I thought it was going to understeer through the hedge. It is a very nice car though, especially with storm grey leather ;-)
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 October 2016, 06:00
I'm amazed vw haven't offered dcc as an option on any of the new tiguans.
Title: Re: Tiguan R (allegedly)
Post by: kevinm on 26 October 2016, 14:46
I had a new Tiguan for a few days. It's a huge car. It was quite intimidating to drive after the Golf. The interior is way bigger than the Golf, no comparison really. It had the digital dash which is a wow feature. I cant comment on the on-the limit-handling but I thought it was a nice car to drive, although the steering was very numb. The 150bhp tdi pulled well too.