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Title: Wheels?
Post by: dave7268 on 04 October 2016, 19:30
Looking to get a new set of alloy wheels and spotted these when browsing images in google but unable to find out what they are...  They are similar to tallagedas but imo I think these look nicer.

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp239/Davedalline/aw.jpg)

Anyone able to identify these wheels?

Sorry about the photo but that was the best I could get.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 04 October 2016, 19:34
Old shape Audi RS6 by the looks of them.
Lots of replicas on eBay and usually a couple genuine sets knocking about.

Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: dave7268 on 04 October 2016, 21:44
Nice on Ex  :wink: I thought you might know what they are.

Cheers
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 05 October 2016, 04:48
Ha ha ha!
I really should "get a life"!!

If buying replicas try and go for European made ones such as from WSP (Italy) as they'll be of more predictable quality. There are also a few German wheel makers that do a very similar style, just different enough to avoid copyright laws, but I can't remember which makes offhand.
If you've got a spare hour look on felgenoutlet.de where you can see most styles on your car.

If buying genuine Audi wheels be careful of the offset. That style of wheel was fitted to a few Audis including the TT(RS?) if I remember correctly.
You can get away with fairly low offsets on the rear of a Golf 7 but the front will only take up to around ET40 if you're running 8" wide and 235 tyres. 8.5" wheels I'd guess around ET45 should be ok but I've not tried.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: dave7268 on 05 October 2016, 18:03
Nooooo, don't get a life.... who else would we turn to!   :wink:

Thanks for the advice, that is really helpful. Was browsing some on ebay and the price differs quite a bit for the reps and all I could find for the genuine ones were 20".

I'll check out that site at the weekend when I have more time but is it going to spoil me with a lot more choice and then I won't know which ones to get!  :whistle:

I'm running 18x8 BBS CK's at the moment which are nice but feel like something new. Which are the better quality brands out there? There are so many to choose from  :undecided:
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 06 October 2016, 04:40
I ran 19" BBS CK's (previously ran on my mk6) on my PP for a while.
If you google BBS CK Golf my car usually appears!

There are quite a few half decent brands but it's hard to recommend wheels to people as tastes vary so much.
BBS do a few newer designs that suit the mk7 well. The SR's look good and Gnasher runs a set of those. There's a new design called SX that are very similar to Audi wheels that look good and will suit a Golf.

I quite like BBS XA's too, but again they're similar to Audi wheels.

AEZ Raise are fairly similar to the XA's and also bear more than a passing resemblance to R Pretorias but have a little more style in the design. Some will prefer the simplicity of the Prets and some will like the detailing of the Raise.

I also really like the MAK Wolf wheel.
That design looks very OEM as did the Rondell 02RZ's I had on my GTI.

I could go on for hours...  :grin:
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: dave7268 on 06 October 2016, 17:38
Stop it Ex - you're killing me!!!   :laugh:

Too many to choose from!

I do like these two though - they are very nice. Not really into the polished look and prefer a solid colour

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp239/Davedalline/bbs%20sx_1.jpg)

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp239/Davedalline/mak%20wolf%20matt%20titan.jpg)

I was originally considering Himalayan Grey SR's but I am unsure on that colour with my CSG....

Then I really like these Vossen CV5 but smallest size is 20x9

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp239/Davedalline/VVSCV5-MG-NL-1.jpg)

This may take me sometime to choose
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 07 October 2016, 04:49
There are styles similar to the Vossen in a smaller diameter.
I dread to think how much 20" tyres are!
AEZ do a similar wheel, the Portofino in 19"

It would have to be between the SX and Wolf for me out of those but there are quite a few other styles I like.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 January 2017, 08:37
Morning All

Looking to get some BBS SR 19s but do I need to added the TPMS (tyre pressure monitoring systems) for the added price of £170..?

Does anyone know whether the locking wheel nuts that come with the standard GTD wheels will fit the BBS SR's or again is this something I will have to add to the order..?

Thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Gnasher on 27 January 2017, 09:07
Morning All

Looking to get some BBS SR 19s but do I need to added the TPMS (tyre pressure monitoring systems) for the added price of £170..?

Does anyone know whether the locking wheel nuts that come with the standard GTD wheels will fit the BBS SR's or again is this something I will have to add to the order..?

Thanks
Steve

Glad I spotted this, can answer both questions as I've done exactly that!

The type of TPMS fitted to the golf doesn't use the sensors in the wheels - it just works on the rotational speeds of the wheels, therefore no sensors.

Wheels bolts - the types of seat are different (Standard wheels = Ball seat, BBS = Tapered seat). Therefore whatever you do, don't use the standard locking bolts on them.

BBS Supply wheels bolts but not locking one's. Also, I thought the wheel bolts supplied looked a bit 'non OEM' so I popped to the Skoda garage and got a set of wheel bolt covers and removal tool. Can't remember the price but they were pence each - definitely less than £20 for all of them and the removal tool. The standard wheel bolt covers don't fit in the holes in the wheels.

Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 January 2017, 11:58
@ Gnasher - I knew you where the man to answer this so Thank You for your very informative reply, much appreciated.


Rimstyle do a set of black locking wheel bolts for a £10er extra will these be ok..?

The bolt covers from Skoda, do you have a part number(s) for the covers and removal tool..? or is it case of popping in and asking..

Also in one of your pics of your wheels you mention you run 235 tyres but rimstyle don't seem to offer 235's only 225's will the stretch be that noticeable..?

Or would you recommend buying the tyres seperately and getting fitted...?

Thanks
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Gnasher on 27 January 2017, 13:37
@ Gnasher - I knew you where the man to answer this so Thank You for your very informative reply, much appreciated.


Rimstyle do a set of black locking wheel bolts for a £10er extra will these be ok..?

The bolt covers from Skoda, do you have a part number(s) for the covers and removal tool..? or is it case of popping in and asking..

Also in one of your pics of your wheels you mention you run 235 tyres but rimstyle don't seem to offer 235's only 225's will the stretch be that noticeable..?

Or would you recommend buying the tyres seperately and getting fitted...?

Thanks

I got everything separate (it worked out cheaper and I'm tight).

I got my wheels from a German ebay seller (Reifen Gesell - although the spelling might not be right) and the tyres from Camskill Tyres and got a place local (who I trust with big alloys) to fit them.

I'll ping you my email address on PM and you could send me an email to reply to with all the links of where I got mine from if you want? It's definitely worth checking, although you'd have to factor in fitting of the tyres to any calculations you make.

Edit - and I just pointed to some bolt covers in the showroom to get them lol.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 January 2017, 14:04
@ Gnasher - I knew you where the man to answer this so Thank You for your very informative reply, much appreciated.


Rimstyle do a set of black locking wheel bolts for a £10er extra will these be ok..?

The bolt covers from Skoda, do you have a part number(s) for the covers and removal tool..? or is it case of popping in and asking..

Also in one of your pics of your wheels you mention you run 235 tyres but rimstyle don't seem to offer 235's only 225's will the stretch be that noticeable..?

Or would you recommend buying the tyres seperately and getting fitted...?

Thanks

I got everything separate (it worked out cheaper and I'm tight).

I got my wheels from a German ebay seller (Reifen Gesell - although the spelling might not be right) and the tyres from Camskill Tyres and got a place local (who I trust with big alloys) to fit them.

I'll ping you my email address on PM and you could send me an email to reply to with all the links of where I got mine from if you want? It's definitely worth checking, although you'd have to factor in fitting of the tyres to any calculations you make.

Edit - and I just pointed to some bolt covers in the showroom to get them lol.

Brilliant mate, are message you now...

Sent :wink:
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 27 January 2017, 15:28
Personally I'd definitely not run 225 tyres on 8.5" wheels.
235's sit nice and square on 8" wheels & are the minimum you'd want to run on 8.5's.

Tyreleader and several other German stockists used to have the best prices for BBS wheels but with the £ versus Euro not looking too healthy these days I'm not sure who would be best to supply a set of SR's.
A quick look through eBay using a whole of Europe search might be a good idea then see if the dealers will cut you a discount if you buy direct.

Wheel bolt covers and the U shaped puller are cheap and easily available from SEAT and Skoda dealers in black or if you want dark grey then Audi dealers do the same part in that shade but not black.
The U shape puller was about £1.75 when I last bought one and the wheel nut covers are about 30p each, all plus VAT.
People do sell them in sets on eBay for about £20 making a good ol' profit I'd think.
Alternatively if you have a TPS nearby just grab the registration number of a car that has them fitted as standard and pop to TPS.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Gnasher on 27 January 2017, 16:01
Just messaged Steve - not really any saving over rimstyle unless you count the fact I based mine on 235s rather than 225s (£20 difference on the Goodyear Asymmetric 3s) - I personally think 225s are too narrow for the rims though.

Apologies - just realised we've taken over the OP's thread  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 January 2017, 22:24
Personally I'd definitely not run 225 tyres on 8.5" wheels.
235's sit nice and square on 8" wheels & are the minimum you'd want to run on 8.5's.

Tyreleader and several other German stockists used to have the best prices for BBS wheels but with the £ versus Euro not looking too healthy these days I'm not sure who would be best to supply a set of SR's.
A quick look through eBay using a whole of Europe search might be a good idea then see if the dealers will cut you a discount if you buy direct.

Wheel bolt covers and the U shaped puller are cheap and easily available from SEAT and Skoda dealers in black or if you want dark grey then Audi dealers do the same part in that shade but not black.
The U shape puller was about £1.75 when I last bought one and the wheel nut covers are about 30p each, all plus VAT.
People do sell them in sets on eBay for about £20 making a good ol' profit I'd think.
Alternatively if you have a TPS nearby just grab the registration number of a car that has them fitted as standard and pop to TPS.

Thanks for the heads up, yeah I've been to TPS recently to pickup one on those 12V thingys...so the number plate idea is a good one...thanks

Just messaged Steve - not really any saving over rimstyle unless you count the fact I based mine on 235s rather than 225s (£20 difference on the Goodyear Asymmetric 3s) - I personally think 225s are too narrow for the rims though.

Apologies - just realised we've taken over the OP's thread  :embarrassed:

Thanks Graham again for your email and yeh I'm going to stick with the 235's...

I've just received your pic so thank you..

I'm sure the OP will be ok as I checked before I posted up in here as I think it's a "general'' wheel thread...
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 January 2017, 09:01


Wheel bolt covers and the U shaped puller are cheap and easily available from SEAT and Skoda dealers in black or if you want dark grey then Audi dealers do the same part in that shade but not black.
The U shape puller was about £1.75 when I last bought one and the wheel nut covers are about 30p each, all plus VAT.
People do sell them in sets on eBay for about £20 making a good ol' profit I'd think.
Alternatively if you have a TPS nearby just grab the registration number of a car that has them fitted as standard and pop to TPS.

You should save about 10% in your local TPS vs VW dealership parts department, maybe you can save 30% if you have a friend in the car trade that can order them for you via their trade account (a mate at a local bodyshop perhaps?)

Those nut covers have a ridge moulded into them that makes it easier to get them off. I bought a set for the wife's A1 for when it is running 15" VW Polo wheels on winter tyres rather than its regular 16s.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 January 2017, 10:48
Just a quick google showed up these..http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/401264143691?lpid=122&chn=ps&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=aud-133395220626%3Apla-75952154106&adtype=pla&poi=&googleloc=9045718&device=m&campaignid=207297426&crdt=0&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-134428-41853-0%252F2%253Fmtid%253D1673%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D50600204586_563391%2526itemid%253D401264143691%2526targetid%253D75952154106%2526device%253Dm%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253a%25252f%25252fwww.ebay.co.uk%25252fitm%25252flike%25252f401264143691%25253flpid%25253d122%252526chn%25253Dps%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9045718%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D207297426%2526adgroupid%253D13585920426%2526rlsatarget%253Daud-133395220626%253Apla-75952154106%2526gclid%253DCJOY9qjU5NECFQyeGwodnhEIhg%2526srcrot%253D710-134428-41853-0%2526rvr_id%253D1159936524248

Obviously not TPS prices but I haven't been there yet.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Gnasher on 28 January 2017, 12:36
Just a quick google showed up these..http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/401264143691?lpid=122&chn=ps&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=aud-133395220626%3Apla-75952154106&adtype=pla&poi=&googleloc=9045718&device=m&campaignid=207297426&crdt=0&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-134428-41853-0%252F2%253Fmtid%253D1673%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D50600204586_563391%2526itemid%253D401264143691%2526targetid%253D75952154106%2526device%253Dm%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253a%25252f%25252fwww.ebay.co.uk%25252fitm%25252flike%25252f401264143691%25253flpid%25253d122%252526chn%25253Dps%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9045718%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D207297426%2526adgroupid%253D13585920426%2526rlsatarget%253Daud-133395220626%253Apla-75952154106%2526gclid%253DCJOY9qjU5NECFQyeGwodnhEIhg%2526srcrot%253D710-134428-41853-0%2526rvr_id%253D1159936524248

Obviously not TPS prices but I haven't been there yet.

Just  quick point on the link - that is 16 bolt covers and 4 locking bolt covers. I haven't been able to find any locking bolts that would fit the OEM covers.

The only other option I looked at (before settling with the skoda covers) was to get some black wheel bolts/locking bolts but you're looking at £50ish
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Gtiless on 28 January 2017, 13:50
I like the look of those AEZ Raise  in 19s. Whats the quality like and it asks what offset? Is it ET45 for a Gti? (Mk7)

Edit,also those AEZ straight in 19s satin graphite look good.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 January 2017, 17:02
Right so I'm just consulting the wife about my impending big purchase of the BBS SR 19's and she's made a valid point.

Will the 19's not affect the structure of the car as it's coming with a panroof..? As this is the reason I couldn't add the Santi's cus of panroof.

Thoughts and advice please before I press the green light...
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: kalimon on 28 January 2017, 18:53
Right so I'm just consulting the wife about my impending big purchase of the BBS SR 19's and she's made a valid point.

Will the 19's not affect the structure of the car as it's coming with a panroof..? As this is the reason I couldn't add the Santi's cus of panroof.

Thoughts and advice please before I press the green light...

Sounds like your missus is a keeper. 
Sharp girl 😀
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: a9wyn on 28 January 2017, 19:21
Just been on the VW configurator, if you spec. a Golf R with 19" alloys it will allow you to spec. a sunroof as well,  also this is applicable to the Clubsport edition also. Why it doesn't allow you to have this on a GTI may well be a question to be put to VW CS
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 28 January 2017, 19:29
The official line was that sunroof plus Santiagos put the emissions into the next group up on a UK registered GTI from what I remember.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 28 January 2017, 20:32
Right so I'm just consulting the wife about my impending big purchase of the BBS SR 19's and she's made a valid point.

Will the 19's not affect the structure of the car as it's coming with a panroof..? As this is the reason I couldn't add the Santi's cus of panroof.

Thoughts and advice please before I press the green light...

If the difference between 18" and 19" with a sunroof made a structural difference to a car I would not be thinking of buying that car. If you think about it what great difference could it make to impact on the structural strength of the car? That's a bit like saying I can hit a 4" pothole at 40mph with 17" wheels but only 20mph with 19" wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 28 January 2017, 20:59
It was nothing to do with rigidity, it was vehicle weight versus emissions at the time.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 January 2017, 21:14
It was nothing to do with rigidity, it was vehicle weight versus emissions at the time.

Brilliant, thank you and all others who have set my Mrs mind at ease.

I'm not one to ask a lot of questions and then not follow through...so I have now put my money where my mouth is and ordered.

I've ordered BBS SR 19's in Satin Himalaya Grey.

I will be buying the rubber separately. I'm running F1 Eagles Ass2 on my current shadows but fancy a change so I'm going to be running Conti's on the SR's.

Thanks all for your helpful advice and knowledge. I will be tracking down some bolt covers for them and of course put pics up.  :cool:
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 28 January 2017, 22:52
Nice one Mr GTD  :smiley:
The standard Nogaros look really good with spacers but the SR's will give it that extra something in the mean and moody looks department.

Where did you order from out of interest?
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 January 2017, 23:06
^^^

Gnasher(Graham) put me onto these people as this is where he got his...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19-Zoll-BBS-SR-8-5Jx19-5x112-et46-Himalaya-grau-matt-BBS-SR028-VW-Golf-/262119222769?hash=item3d0785edf1:g:s9wAAMXQKPRSMyUQ so I have followed suit...
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 January 2017, 23:08
There going be tucked up in my man shed for a couple of weeks though.

I plan to use the Negaro's as winters.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 28 January 2017, 23:12
Good choices all round  :cool:
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 30 January 2017, 15:07
@ Gnasher - are these the caps you got..? http://www.skodaparts.com/product/wheel-nut-cap-cover-33493

Skoda parts department/westover have been less than helpful...

I now have reg from Octavia VRS which I took from there forecourt that seem to have the correct bolt covers, well they look like the grey ones that might match the alloys.

I will probably do as Mr Ex suggested and pop to TPS.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 30 January 2017, 15:15
That's the right nut cover.
I'll have a look in my garage to see if I can find the puller for the part number. Mine has snapped in two but is surprisingly still just about useable as you hook the things off.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 30 January 2017, 15:20
^^^

Great Mr Ex, thanks for the confirmation.

Oh yeh...total forgot about the puller "D'oh'' will see if I can track a part number down for it....
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 30 January 2017, 15:22
Give me half hour and I'll see if I can find my broken one.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 30 January 2017, 15:36
I've actually just got off the phone with TPS and I now have the bolt covers and puller and I'm collecting on Wednesday as not all was in stock. £12 inc VAT  :cool:

Oh and it looks as if my wheels will be here Weds or Thurs  :laugh:

Are be putting a good few coats of Gtechniq C5 on them to pass the time  :laugh:

Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 30 January 2017, 15:40
8D0 012 244 A
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Mr GTD on 30 January 2017, 15:41
^^

Yes mate that's the number I found too..

Thanks
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: dave7268 on 30 January 2017, 18:26
Still not got new wheels yet - was really undecided as too many to choose from and then too many birthdays and xmas got in the way which used up waaay too much of my savings. :angry: Finally got back on track to where I can get some wheels again and still remain undecided but have narrowed it down to either BBS SX or these below - ATS Racelight, but don't know much about this make - anyone had any experience with them?

They come in an offset of 30 or 38 for 18x8.5 wheel - which would be the best size and would spacers be required for a flush fit?

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp239/Davedalline/ats_racelight-blk.jpg)

Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 30 January 2017, 18:46
Still not got new wheels yet - was really undecided as too many to choose from and then too many birthdays and xmas got in the way which used up waaay too much of my savings. :angry: Finally got back on track to where I can get some wheels again and still remain undecided but have narrowed it down to either BBS SX or these below - ATS Racelight, but don't know much about this make - anyone had any experience with them?

They come in an offset of 30 or 38 for 18x8.5 wheel - which would be the best size and would spacers be required for a flush fit?


ATS are a very prestigious name in Germany and are renowned in racing circles. ATS wheels were once de rigeur on mk1 and mk2 Golfs on the Euro scene.
The Racelights are very strong and light and the VW Pretoria wheels borrow a lot of styling cues from them.

However ET30 & 38 will both stick out too far on a mk7 Golf.

The max you can get away with will be 45mm on a mk7 at the front. The 38's would fit the rear though, but only just.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: dave7268 on 30 January 2017, 19:05

However ET30 & 38 will both stick out too far on a mk7 Golf.

The max you can get away with will be 45mm on a mk7 at the front. The 38's would fit the rear though, but only just.

Bah, you know how to ruin a person's day  :cry:

Well they do an ET45 in the 19x8.5 wheel (and it's an extra £70 per wheel) but have never had 19's before.

How much of a difference would they make to the daily drive ride quality over city streets and do they effect mpg much?

If I opted for these what tyre size would I be looking at for the better ride quality. AS you can tell I'm a bit out of my depth with the larger wheel size as I have only ever used 18's on all the cars I've had.

Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 30 January 2017, 19:08
That sounds a lot of money for the higher offset  :angry:

You'd need 235/35/19 tyres to maintain gearing.

They're very much track orientated wheels so will be very strong and obviously a lighter wheel will generally drive and ride better.


Have a look on tyreleader.co.uk to see if they have any in stock and also try felgenoutlet.de
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Gnasher on 30 January 2017, 20:06
Ex - the extra £70 is for the 19" wheel which actually comes in the right offset.

I doubt there's anything in it for economy and they'll probably ride similar to standard (or the tiniest bit worse). The smaller sidewall might be made up for by the lightness of the wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: Exonian on 30 January 2017, 20:14
D'oh, Specsavers moment.
I was so dazzled by the pic of the Racelight I mistook the 8.5x18 for x19
Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: dave7268 on 30 January 2017, 20:39
Checked out those two sites but neither had them  :sad:

As Gnasher pointed out, the extra £70 was for the larger wheel size.

Cheapest I have managed to find them for so far is £314 per wheel and then £130 per corner for Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric  3

Hmmm, I hate making decisions  :undecided: The BBS SX would leave a lot of change in my pocket in comparison but I do so like the Racelights. This may cause me many sleepless nights.....

Thanks for your input guys, appreciate it  :wink:

Title: Re: Wheels?
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 30 January 2017, 21:26
Can anyone that is good at photoshopping photoshop VW lugano wheels onto a preferably night blue mk7, I'd be more than thankful.