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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: th3_f15t on 10 June 2016, 20:35

Title: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 10 June 2016, 20:35
I've spotted this on eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221544809422?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

But it says it doesn't fit GTI's. Is this correct, as in are there different rear beams depending on whether the car had rear discs or not? I thought all rear beams were the same and it's the hubs that allow the fitting of disc brakes instead of drums..?
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: lemski on 10 June 2016, 20:39
Mk2 beams are the same. Just need the s shaped looking bit of.metal that the hose and pipe meet at.
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: Craigwilson on 10 June 2016, 20:59
it won't have the anti roll bar like the gti does
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 10 June 2016, 21:24
it won't have the anti roll bar like the gti does

Can one not be fitted to it or is it missing the mounting points from the roll bar?
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: gazareth on 10 June 2016, 21:29
 pretty sure the anti-roll bar is part of the axle and can't be removed. why not use the mk3 gti axles for the wide track? or use a standard rear axle fitted with an aftermarket arb.
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 10 June 2016, 21:37
Well, I am planning to fit H&R anti roll bars anyway, so I could get this and fit my new roll bar to it anyway? I had considered the wide track option, seems like while I'm replacing everything it may be the better option.
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: gazareth on 10 June 2016, 23:41
personally I would go for the wide track with some decent springs/shocks. it's got to be easier finding a less corroded mk3 axle than a mk2 one. the h+r anti-roll bars will be tuned to work alongside the original ones so if the original rear arb is missing it might put the balance of the car out.
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 11 June 2016, 08:53
Ah, very interesting that, thanks for that. Wide track and 5-stud conversion looks like the way ahead then... So if I use a mk3 Golf GTI/VR6 rear beam and mk3 ARB, I'll be alright?
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: lemski on 11 June 2016, 10:20
Yeh. Vr6 beam is slightly wider than gti beam. Or so ive been told. Its also supposedly in the stub axles. Havnt chexked my mk2 stubs vs mk3 stubs so cant confirm
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: SimonG on 11 June 2016, 12:24
The stub axles are about the same as long as they are rear disc versions. Some Mk2 versions don't have the hole for the ABS sensors which is the only difference. You could bin the tapered bearing in favour of Polo 6N2/Lupo setup.

As regards for the VR6 'plus axle', same as the Mk3 GTI.
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 11 June 2016, 15:14
Yeah, been looking at the wide track conversion guide over on Club GTI, there's about 10mm difference between them all. I'll try and get the widest one, then mk3 rear hubs and Polo bearings (anyone got a link to those please) and some good bushes plus new bolts and we're laughing.

Been trying to get the rear beam off today, what a nightmare! 27 year old, rusted on bolts do not play nice!
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: gazareth on 11 June 2016, 15:52
why not just swap over all the mk2 parts to the mk3 axle?
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 11 June 2016, 15:58
Again, true, either option is good but looking on eBay at mk3 parts, I can buy all but the rear beam itself and front hubs brand new.
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 11 June 2016, 23:23
Also, with the front uprights from the mk3, do the mk4 Golf wheel bearings and hubs fit them the same, as I have those spare from another project..?
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: gazareth on 14 June 2016, 20:34
do you mean if the mk4 bearing will fit in the mk3 bearing carrier? or do you mean if the mk4 bearing carrier will fit the mk3 struts?
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 14 June 2016, 21:49
I mean the bearings from a mk4 fitting into the bearing carrier/upright from a mk3 Golf.
Title: Re: Replacement Rear Beam
Post by: th3_f15t on 17 June 2016, 15:33
If I use a VR6 rear beam, do mk4 Golf rear calipers still fit like they do to a mk2?