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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GolfTi on 22 January 2016, 21:34
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What!
A Golf GTI thread :shocked:
I am still smiling at my car each day and just love how it copes with everyday life so brilliantly. It's a great car to drive and to own. 3rd service soon and my eyes still aren't wandering.
It must be love.
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I've ordered another, pondered an R but I can't help but liking the Focus RS. The Mk8 needs to trounce any opposition. Tough task ...
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What a great idea, a dedicated thread to a rarely seen iconic car.
I'm hooked already :smiley:
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I know how you feel. I was slightly nervous about buying a brand new car and I wondered if I'd gone a bit mad ticking all the option boxes. Things weren't helped when the whole emissions saga broke the same week my car went into production.
However 3 months after collection and I don't give a monkeys about the value of it, the car is utterly fantastic. I can see me owning it for a considerable amount of time.
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I owned my last car for 9 happy years and I expect to do the same with my GTI when it eventually arrives.
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Excellent stuff, but a thread is only as good as the posts. I've posted my thoughts on my GTI on a dedicated thread. If anyone is interested or got absolutely nothing else to do (nails clipped, fluff removed from belly button etc) - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275528.10
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I loved my Mk5 GTI but I can't help but feel the Mk7 GTI looks a little lost in the current line up...
The R costs very little extra and does similar MPG whilst offering much better performance. And for those wanting much better MPG, the GTD is available for a similar price to the GTI with performance not a million miles away.
I would happily have one again but I don't think it's the brilliant all rounder it once was
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I couldn't disagree with you more.
The R is a fair bit more expensive ( £4000ish ) if you buy it outright and spec it the same as a GTI and the performance of the GTI is more than good enough for today's roads.
4 WD is nice but as a few people have mentioned, a good set of tyres is as important.
If you don't do the mileage, the GTD is pretty pointless due to DPG issues.
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If you don't do the mileage, the GTD is pretty pointless due to DPG issues.
What the hell is a DPG?
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I think he means DPF.
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Due to the addition of Nav, keyless and winter pack on the GTI and GTD, and the RRP going up accordingly, the gap between the cost of the GTI and the R is very small, way smaller than the difference in performance would imply it should be, especially as the bits of equipment the GTD/GTI gets are by no means essential
1. Nav vs using your smart phone.
2. Keyless and security concerns.
3. Winter pack - do you need heated seats if you don't have leather that's stone-cold to the touch in Winter.
Although the MK7 chassis handles very well, the GTI is looking very low on output next to its peers and the GTI's output is closer to that of the GTD, but the mpg is closer to that of the R.
Although the GTI hasn't been the top tier of Golf performance for a very long time, those sitting at the top like the G60, VR6, R32 were pretty rare models in their time. The MK6 and MK7 made the R much more mainstream. The R is the new GTI. The forthcoming clubsport is exactly what the MK7 GTI should have been. I'd be surprised if the MK8 "standard" GTI isn't at least 260ps with the MK8 R at 350ps.
DPF operation is handled very well by the VW range, passive regens occur readily even with an annual mileage of only 8k miles pa.
Who buys a GTI over an R for the 5mpg (real) difference? If you care about mpg you buy a GTD. When the GTI was the only performance model with the £1250 deposit contribution and didn't get the additional equipment which upped the RRP, the GTI was noticeably cheaper than the R. Now there's £3320 between them (5 door comparison), and the GFV on the R is around £1800 more, making the GTI just £1500 cheaper over 3 years in real terms if you're PCPing.
The GTI is a decent car but it should be closer to the R than the GTD in performance as a hot hatch.
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The reason this thread has so few comments may be due:
A: we are a small niche of buyers.
B: GTi owners constantly getting told on here they have the wrong car or the wrong tyres, and are probably a little fed up with it so prefer not to shout about it.
I made a GTi PP review about my purchase over a year ago but decided not to put it on this forum for obvious reasons. Anyone that starts a new thread suggesting they might buy a GTi gets told within 10 posts, that they should buy the other 2 cars, it happens all the time for some reason.
Some want to view a car purchase based on the price bracket PCP/GFV, bhp figures or 0-60, some want to view a car purchase based on MPG and trade off the petrol for a narrow power band like the GTD. Others may make the decision on whether they want a less agile handling diesel (its nose heavy) with a narrow power delivery, or a car that is defined by its added weight (125kg heavier than a GTi) and the haldex system that uses XDS+ to turn. No option is right or wrong, some want different things from a car, but I hate the constant comments that mean option "B" is the most likely reason...
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^ well said. I could have bought an R but actively chose not to. I'm very happy with my decision, I bloody love my gti.
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Couldnt agree more Jackie
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I'm glad I ordered a GTI.
I do about 3000 miles a year and lots of short journeys of less than 5 miles so the DPF could cause me problems.
R owners, get over yourselves!
If they ever produce the R400, will that make your car sh!te cos it's slower?
It's not all about speed and to say that the clubsport is the car the GTI should have been is nuts! It's a niche car for people who like that kind of thing.
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Well put Jackie, far more eloquently than I could have managed.
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R owners, get over yourselves!
If they ever produce the R400, will that make your car sh!te cos it's slower?
It's not all about speed and to say that the clubsport is the car the GTI should have been is nuts! It's a niche car for people who like that kind of thing.
Hey, do not tar all R owners with the same brush!
I decided to pass on the 7GTI, because after 10 years of GTI's (5s & 6's) I wanted a different experience and 4WD, but still needed Golf practicality on a daily basis......step forward the R. Otherwise it would, without doubt, have been the GTI, which is an immense car, as is the GTD for the mile munchers. The Clubsport should be GTI+ because that's what anniversary editions are.
I hope they do produce the R400. I don't want one myself as it doesn't meet my needs but would love to see it come to fruition, and would love to see some members flinging it around the track.
All this tit for tat attitude GTI v R is pathetic. Whatever flavour performance Golf you have chosen, you should enjoy it for what it is. All of them are eminently capable Golfs. R owners, will rave (or moan) about their R's; GTI drivers will rave (or moan) about their GTI's; GTD owners will rave (or moan) about their GTD's; and when the Clubsport makes it's apperance, and if the R400 ever gets built.......
And that's the way it should be.
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Of course all R owners are not the same.
It's just that a few of them seem determined to dismiss the GTI as a car that you buy because you can't afford an R.
I would never put you in that category Booth11, far from it, but they know who they are .
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The GTI has become the niche car because leasegate initially made the R very accessible, the better car became the cheap option.
With access to cheap leases gone and the GTI getting a £1250 deposit contribution that no other performance Golf got, the gap was big enough to make the GTI cheap enough to justify the HP difference and no Haldex.
Then VW has recently closed that gap again by making previous options a compulsory purchase and upping the RRP to close the gap between the GTI and the R, and then making the £1250 deposit contribution available to it.
I'm not criticising the GTI as a car, i'm criticising the cost of it vs the R. The RRP price gap/3 year ownership cost gap is so low between them that most would pick the R over the GTI. When you can get an extra 36% HP and 4WD to put it all down, for 8% more monthly cost, it doesn't add up to most people.
All the above is VW's fault. Extra equipment for nothing is welcome, but when they cause a hike in the RRP on what is an already expensive car (relative to its peers), I think they've shot themselves in the foot if they want the GTI to remain "the" VW hot hatch. That Haldex is worth £1500 (around what it costs to option Quattro on certain A3s), and the drivetrain differences add up too.
If I had decided that 220ps was fine for me, i'd expect the GTI to be a solid £4k cheaper and £100pm cheaper if PCPing.
You can get standard GTI PP performance and GTD mpg by adding a DTUK box or remap to a GTD and making sure you don't have BS on the front wheels, and not have any real reliability anxieties. You can do the same to your GTI to get it up to R output, but it won't have 4WD and i'd be a bit worried about my clutch and turbo.
Next to the R, the GTI looks too expensive and the mpg savings against the R are piffling next to a boxed/mapped GTD.
There's no snobbery here on my part, I bought the R because I was sick of frequent tramping on my GTD, and the GTI wouldn't have cured that. I was quite happy with the output of my DTUK'd GTD and the mpg. As luck would have it, due to the collapse in the price of oil, my fuelling pence per mile costs are the same in the R that it was in the GTD when diesel was at the lofty heights of £1.38/L.
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It's just that a few of them seem determined to dismiss the GTI as a car that you buy because you can't afford an R.
Exactly the opposite stance from me, the R is very affordable next to the GTI, which for me makes more sense to buy the R.
If leasegate never happens again, I can see some people who chopped in their 12 year old Corsas for lease deposit on one not getting a car of it's like again unless they're willing to find an extra £200 a month over what they're currently paying.
The GTI is no bad car, but it is bad value next to an R currently.
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How to prove my point all in one page... :grin:
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The GTI has become the niche car because leasegate initially made the R very accessible, the better car became the cheap option.
With access to cheap leases gone and the GTI getting a £1250 deposit contribution that no other performance Golf got, the gap was big enough to make the GTI cheap enough to justify the HP difference and no Haldex.
Then VW has recently closed that gap again by making previous options a compulsory purchase and upping the RRP to close the gap between the GTI and the R, and then making the £1250 deposit contribution available to it.
I'm not criticising the GTI as a car, i'm criticising the cost of it vs the R. The RRP price gap/3 year ownership cost gap is so low between them that most would pick the R over the GTI. When you can get an extra 36% HP and 4WD to put it all down, for 8% more monthly cost, it doesn't add up to most people.
All the above is VW's fault. Extra equipment for nothing is welcome, but when they cause a hike in the RRP on what is an already expensive car (relative to its peers), I think they've shot themselves in the foot if they want the GTI to remain "the" VW hot hatch. That Haldex is worth £1500 (around what it costs to option Quattro on certain A3s), and the drivetrain differences add up too.
If I had decided that 220ps was fine for me, i'd expect the GTI to be a solid £4k cheaper and £100pm cheaper if PCPing.
You can get standard GTI PP performance and GTD mpg by adding a DTUK box or remap to a GTD and making sure you don't have BS on the front wheels, and not have any real reliability anxieties. You can do the same to your GTI to get it up to R output, but it won't have 4WD and i'd be a bit worried about my clutch and turbo.
Next to the R, the GTI looks too expensive and the mpg savings against the R are piffling next to a boxed/mapped GTD.
There's no snobbery here on my part, I bought the R because I was sick of frequent tramping on my GTD, and the GTI wouldn't have cured that. I was quite happy with the output of my DTUK'd GTD and the mpg. As luck would have it, due to the collapse in the price of oil, my fuelling pence per mile costs are the same in the R that it was in the GTD when diesel was at the lofty heights of £1.38/L.
When you buy it as opposed to leasing it, it is £4000 cheaper for the same spec.
It's ok saying that the added GTI spec is pointless but it's there all the same. The R is under speced if anything.
I set myself a £25000 budget for a new car and the GTI just about scrapes into said budget.
Most people who own an R and post on here appear to have spent quite a bit specing the car up, satnav, keyless etc
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Matt with all due respect, you are very much a numbers person and like to go down the route based on facts and figures.
Just because you can "get an extra 36% HP and 4WD to put it all down, for 8% more monthly cost" that means nothing to most. I'm quite sure you could make those figures appealing for any car. For instance get a Daihatsu, yeah the R will have 55% more power but you will be saving 75%
I'm in the process of getting my Mrs a new car. She was pretty basic in her requirements. Sat nav, heated seats & keyless.
Now given she isn't into cars I could easily have got her a Kia or something similar as long as it had those requirements. She would just have been as pleased with it. She knows I'm keen on the R so i put it to her in a round about way what she thought of one for herself, but she felt compared to the GTI/D it just looks like a normal Golf with no extras!!
The GTI just ticked so many boxes for her and with the financial deals on at present, I would have been crazy to go elsewhere.
So what I'm trying to say is, its not all about what's a better car on paper. Its about what car suits you as an individual.
I get the feeling sometimes on here folk buy cars and then feel they have to justify the reason why they got it and belittle everything else.
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TBH I was smitten with the company 1.6TDI SE I has on loan for 6 weeks, so I don't know why you are all whinging about whether the GTD/GTI/R is better :laugh:
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I'd not normally add my thoughts to a thread like this as a) they're irrelevant to anyone but me and b) pretty much the same as option a.
I'm pretty much a GTI purist but I own an R so it kind of muddies the water somewhat.
My first car was a GTI nearly 30 years ago and I've owned probably more than a dozen since alongside many other cars of a similar ilk.
The R was never a planned purchase, I'd hoped to get a Clubsport but unfortunately I can't stand the mutton chops bumper on it and I also think the rear spoiler looks a bit silly. From the front it just looks a dogs dinner.
Anyway, to the case in point - to my eyes the GTI should be the perfect blend of biggish engine (check), nimble handling (check), reasonable running costs (check), good power to weight ratio within smallish body proportions (check), subtle but sporty styling with unique features (check), classier than the mainstream opposition hot hatches (check).
All of these things are why it's such a big seller in the UK with our crowded roads and hills and bends and general lack of space.
The mk7 GTI epitomises that perfectly, it's actually better on fuel than an R than the figures suggest, especially when running it on 95RON making it significantly cheaper to run. It doesn't feel 30 odd percent down on power to an R due to the high torque and very broad power and torque bands. I'd have put money on mine having significantly more power than 230PS and I'd put money on my R struggling to make 300PS. I've owned a lot of modified GTI's and so I have a good feel for these things.
I don't care what anyone says - the GTI and to a lesser extent the GTD looks really 'pretty' in a sporting sort of way; with Santiagos added (a poor value option but adds infinitely to the car's looks) the GTI is a really sharp and up to the minute looking car.
The R has a certain menace about it looks wise but... well let's just say it lacks the R32's and mk6 R's presence.
The mk7 GTI kind of reminds me of the mk2 8v GTI in that it performs massively well in its own right, and looks pretty darn good too, but lives in the shadow of another. The main difference being (aside from the mk2's better build quality and the mk7's impressive standard kit) the mk2 was in a bit of a heyday with a massive proportion of Golf sales being 8v GTI's similar to the GTD of today where as the mk7 GTI is a little too buried in the range now. This is the age of the hyper hatch with the owners of big engined big cars downsizing to the likes of the R, the A45 AMG, M135i and others who bring their own bit of snobbery with them.
The mk7 GTI over performs for its spec but underperforms in the sales charts, especially considering the cachet those initials have, lease gate has amplified that as everyone (and I mean those who don't inhabit this forum, rather the wider petrol head world) now thinks of the R as a cheapish option and expects the residuals to be low thanks to the twenty billion base spec lease cars that will all hit the market at once (which is the perception on quite a few forums) which sort of kills any image of aspiration or class.
So, my thoughts on the mk7 GTI (having owned one for around 20 months)?
I'm far from the typical buyer and even further from the typical R buyer, if you added all our household incomes together we'd probably still not make one higher rate tax income out of it. I'm not a career high flyer as I have a fairly low paid and low stress job that I actually enjoy so therefore passed on chances of moving on for years so much so that my ship has long since sailed. I did things a bit of a different way to the current general way of living in that I worked hard young and paid my mortgage off, kept my smallish house and spent my money on half (quarter?) decent cars and holidays. I don't even have a credit card.
I then stuck my savings into a bigger house rather than buying an R8 to park outside of a terraced house! Unfortunately I could only have one or the other I think as I live in an expensive area with something like 40% of jobs below the living wage but house prices at home counties levels.
So there's definitely no R snobbery attached to me, no feelings of trying to climb the social echelons and certainly no trying to keep up the the Joneses as they'll always go one better.
No, the GTI in mk7 form is something I'd not even have dared dream about back in the day when my hair wasn't more silver than anything else. It's an amazing car. I loved mine but...
... but the R does so many things a little bit better!
The main killer for me was the lack of stage 1 tuning options for the GTI and for those that did tune theirs, a few of them blew their drivetrains up!
The tuning box was an answer to tuning problems but not THE answer as far as I was concerned (yes I spent a fair bit of time trying one then not using one, then trying it again) so in the end I decided the answer laid elsewhere.
I bought an R and couldn't give a rats arse about tuning it as it's plenty quick enough and has a much sharper throttle response (once past that ridiculous dead travel spot that makes a pedal box essential in my eyes).
If it was as easy to do what I wanted to do with a mk7 GTI as it was in previous generation cars (that didn't suffer TD1 issues or lighter but weaker suspension components) then I'd still be very happily running mine...
... well probably anyway.
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TBH I was smitten with the company 1.6TDI SE I has on loan for 6 weeks, so I don't know why you are all whinging about whether the GTD/GTI/R is better :laugh:
Excellent post!
I bought my GTI because of the red tartan and the red led door lights. That and my OH let me :wink:
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Bloody hell, reading this I'd dare not start a "Thoughts on the GTD", I'd be laughed off :grin: :grin:
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If I did 8000 miles a year or more I'd have bought a GTD without hesitation.
It's plenty quick enough for me and looks great.
It makes no sense when I do 3000 miles or less a year so a GTI it had to be.
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I blame Rebecca for starting all this with her thread. :evil:
I wonder which Gti is best,normal or Performance Pack?
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For me, buying a VW in recent years rather than something else comes down to a few things now VW reliability is unremarkable and average at best:-
1. Decent level of standard spec - no need to spend a fortune on the options that are hideously bad value.
2. Refinement and ride comfort (relative to other hot hatches with firm/low suspension and big wheels) is up there with the best of them.
3. Access to good tech and a willingness to employ it (sometimes to the detriment of reliability - twin charge 1.4TSI anyone?).
4. Looks - I like the Golf's evolution , with the exception on the MK3 and MK6.
5. Great residuals and access to decent discounts if you twist the salesman's arm (they won't offer it on a plate) - for me this is the way VW justify their RRP. The best part of £30k for a Golf GTI/GTD and a smidge over for an R is insane, the only reason this is palatable is that the residuals usually keep the overall cost of ownership down. About £300 a month depreciation on a car is as much as i'm willing to stomach right now i'm in a position to buy outright and not suffer the PCP interest.
The GTD and the R have done so well because when placed next to the nearest equivalent, they're very little extra on a monthly basis. I doubt half as many people would have bought an R over a GTI if it were £100pm extra via the PCP route. In the same vein, i'm sure many people in a GTD would've had a GT 150TDI if they didn't end up costing pretty much the same on PCP monthlies.
VW's RRPs started going crazy at the introduction of the MK6, when the MK6 GTI/GTD came in at 20% more than the outgoing model. They got stung by it, MK6 sales were massively underwhelming for VW, I see around 3x more MK5s on the road than MK6s.
Seems now that VW are at it again, the GTI and GTD have only been out 2 years in a time of virtually zero inflation and yet they're 10% dearer. If my R is worth pennies when I get shot of it, it may be the last new VW I buy. VW are charging Audi money now and BMWs are starting to look cheap in comparison. If they belted out a good looking 1 series i'd be seriously considering one with the kind of discount you can get on a hot BMW.
Most people will judge a hot hatch on performance and cost, and the R looks to be serving up a lot more for an additional £30 a month. The public buying these cars are proving that by placing more orders for Rs than GTIs, and residuals are what they are based on perceived demand in the used market. If the GTI was perceived to be as desirable on the used market as the R then it would hold more of it's RRP and the monthly price difference between the 2 wouldn't be eroded by better residuals on the R (not half as good as they were once thought to be).
There's definitely no offense intended, as they're all good cars, but when the quicker car costs pennies more on a monthly basis it seems rude not to get the R unless a standard GTI is at the top of your budget. If Audi were knocking out RS3s for almost the same monthlies as S3s or Porsche were doing Cayman GTS for almost the same at the GT, who wouldn't go the next one up?
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Bloody hell, reading this I'd dare not start a "Thoughts on the GTD", I'd be laughed off :grin: :grin:
Go on, do it!
it'll probably just get booted into the TDI section out of spite!!
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I blame Rebecca for starting all this with her thread. :evil:
I wonder which Gti is best,normal or Performance Pack?
Yep I'll take the blame, but at least it's brought the GTI owners out from under their stones to extol the virtues of their cars, which is a good thing in my book.
Bloody hell, reading this I'd dare not start a "Thoughts on the GTD", I'd be laughed off :grin: :grin:
What are you waiting for Sootchucker!
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I've had my GTI PP DSG about a month now and after the initial excitement I've found it's made my daily commute very nice and quick and safe and comfortable but honestly a tad boring.
+ Great chassis
+ Covers ground very quickly and with surprising ease
+ Lovely cabin and general build quality
- Shouldn't have got DSG as it makes for pretty uninvolving driving experience (my fault)
- DSG normal mode is too sluggish for general running and sport mode is too hyperactive. Need something in-between.
- The solid composure makes the driving experience a bit isolated?
- Engine sound is pretty dull (compared to my old Focus ST mk2)
- Lots of wheelspin under strong acceleration hopefully caused by terrible Bridgestone tyres that can be replaced
- Standard audio fairly poor, wish I got Dynaudio option
I think I'm just missing some slight connection with the car and the driving conditions. Could it be too composed?
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Only one thing with your car and that's the DSG. It's the very reason I ordered a manual.
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I think you're probably right.
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Oh yeah, one more positive to balance things up a bit. I love the brakes, maybe made a touch better for being the PP version.
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When I drive my wife's A3 with DSG, it drives me crazy, especially at low speeds and pulling out of junctions.
I always feel like the car hesitates slightly and then lurches forward suddenly. Might be my driving but I don't like it and it was never an issue in my old manual A3.
By the way, I cancelled my original order an reordered with Dynaudio
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liked mine so much I am getting another
same options, PP and dynaudio..just need the extra doors this time round
did toy with the thought of an R but really the gti is as fast as I ever really need, plus increased insurance etc
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Interesting to hear what people are saying about the DSG, I was intent on getting one since my last car was an auto and I prefer it but I test drove a manual and was impressed with the easy clutch and precise change that I just bought that actual car! It doesn't even bother me too much when stuck in traffic now although if that was a daily occurence I might change my mind. I really enjoy driving now as much more of an event, loved my old car too, but that was totally different, much more relaxed all round.
Totally agree with the comments regarding the standard audio although for me I'm not so bothered and wouldn't want to pay the extra for Dynaudio. I don't mind the fake engine noise but would prefer better real engine sound, sometimes it sounds fairly raw especially at idle, my old V6 sounded great, that was the reason I bought that car!
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I think I would get used to using the DSG box if it was my everyday car and I can certainly see the attraction in owning one but it's just not for me at the moment.
My wife loves hers and it was me who talked her into buying it when she was adamant she was buying a manual car.
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I have DSG, it's my third autobox but 1st double clutch, it's brilliant and I love it. My car is a daily driver and I'm using it in cities and motorways along with taking the long way when the mood takes me. I really like it but I can see why people prefer a manual box.
The best part is using acc in traffic, leaving the car to crawl along and stop is brilliant. The pops that the exhaust makes under hard acceleration are great too but the most astonishing thing is how when you are doing 69mph and floor the accelerator it drops to 3rd and gets to 70 in no time. In manual you'd never consider third gear at that speed.
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the most astonishing thing is how when you are doing 69mph and floor the accelerator it drops to 3rd and gets to 70 in no time. In manual you'd never consider third gear at that speed.
I doubt my manual car takes all that long to get to 70 from 69, even in 6th gear :wink:
You are right though, I'd expect pistons and valves all over the place if I dropped it to third at 70 even though in reality I know that'll never happen. Generally on the motorway I have it in 6th all the time and the torque does a great job for overtaking even from 60.
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Interesting thoughts going on here. I'll try and write a brief summary of my ownership experience and thoughts so far. Have a quick glance at my spec in my footer before we start...
Generally, I love the GTI. I had a MK5 GTI before this one, in vanilla spec and with a manual box. I loved that car, and went for the same door count/colour combo on this one, but with DSG and a few more toys. I went for the standard GTI, no PP. That's a decision I do slightly regret, but only for the differential.
I've done 28k in 2 years, and found it a tremendous companion for all types of driving. DSG monsters the city/motorway driving (thanks to ACC), and I find it a lot of fun on the tight B-Roads round where I live. Best option I specced was Dynamic Chassis, and mine remains in Comfort ALL of the time. Sport is just too firm for the broken roads I use. I love the compliance, and that it rides very nicely indeed for a luke-warm hatch.
It's certainly fast enough. We all want more power, but not once over the 2 years have I felt I needed it. I enjoy the noise it makes, and I love the effortless cross country feel of the car with the DSG.
I'm surprised to hear someone thought the standard audio was poor, I feel the opposite. Must be down to music types but I listen to band music from 70's to present day and it has all frequencies covered. It's great at high volumes with more than acceptable bass response. Compared with the weedy, quiet, flat standard audio in my Wife's 1-Series, it's mega.
Running costs are more than acceptable, you won't hear me complaining about fuel consumption. I'm about to order 4 new tyres for it which I'm expecting will transform the car yet again, thank God I can get away from the awful Bridgestones.
Things I don't like: Driving Position. Can't get low enough in the car, and the steering wheel doesn't reach out far enough for my 6' 1" frame. As a result, I always feel like I'm sitting too close to the pedals and a little too high in the car. The driving position in my wife's F21 1-Series is much better.
Not keen on the touch screen nav. The position of the screen is a bit too low in the car for me, and inputting data on the move is a clumsy procedure. When working, the nav is good but it's a bit clunky compared with the Pro Media in the BMW. Ergonomically, the BMW suits me better.
Would I order the same car again... Yes and No. It's was the perfect car for me at the time in my life when I ordered it. Now, I need a larger car to accommodate all the gear you have when a baby comes along. I'm not a fan of the looks of the Golf Estate so there is a high chance I'll be leaving the VW brand when the time is right for me to change.
It's been very reliable, certainly not boring, and I still love the way it looks. I know I'll look back on my time with it very fondly indeed.
Jon
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Okay so here are my thoughts for what they are worth. Owned the car for almost 3 months now and love the car to bits. The car was on dealer order when I took the plunge as delivery time fitted into my timescale for the lease ending on my company car. Besides it was the colour I wanted and the right number of doors, bread snatchers mean I cant get away with a 3 door much as I slightly prefer the looks over the 5. Other than its a standard car, all be it the 2016 version which has the Nav, Winter pack etc. as standard.
Majority of my driving so far has been around town, daily commute miles. The few motorway runs into Manchester it has had have proven equally comfortable. Car has enough power for all situations and mpg has been what I expected for a car with that amount of grunt.
Space in the boot great, manage to get my large storage box of PPE in whenever I need to go to site with no issues. Love the USB music interface and DAB radio and agree with JB that the standard audio is pretty damn good compared to other standard systems. And we have owned cars with BOSE and B&O sound systems previously and think it stands up well to those too. Also have to say the Keyless is a god send, its the one thing my wife is jealous of not having on her Merc. The car looks great and have had comments from my Sector Director and Financial Director about how good it looks and something along the lines of "always wanted one of those". Mind you my regional Director said I was too old for that type of car, never got on with him anyway :rolleyes:
Disappointments - not many and none that would have dissuaded me from purchasing. Bridgestones could be better, though not as bad in my opinion than others would have you believe. Mind you they are only 1200 miles old at present. Think VW have scrimped some costs back, no lights in any door cards now (used to be lights up front reflectors rear) - its reflectors all round now. No sill protectors in the rear either. Think the footwell lights should be red but that is an easy fix, just haven't gotten to it yet. Only happened once but have had the touch screen black out, sound fine just no image. any more and back to dealer she shall go!
All in all its a great car. Fantastic on the school run, great on the Motorway and fun on the B roads. Subtle enough to not be in your face yet has looks that get noticed. And the heritage means someone will always say "always wanted one of those" and that should put a smile on your face.
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Nice write up.
What do mean by no lights in door cards exactly?
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The reflectors in the bottom of the door cards. There is a thread on here where people have replaced the rear reflectors with lights to match the lights in the front doors. Earlier models had lights up front - reflectors in rear. They have now saved a few pennies and replaced the front door lights with reflectors. Nothing major just makes you wonder what they have changed you cant see?? :wink:
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Thanks for that :smiley:
Proper cheapskate move :angry:
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Earlier models had lights up front - reflectors in rear. They have now saved a few pennies and replaced the front door lights with reflectors.
How long did they have lights up front? I can't recall them in the mk7?
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Not sure for how long but defo on there on earlier models
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.2450
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Not sure for how long but defo on there on earlier models
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.2450
Yeah that's the link to adding them on but I've never known lights to be on the car from the factory in the first place.
Just curious to when VW pulled them as its definitely not on any of the year changes that I've seen :shocked:
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Not sure for how long but defo on there on earlier models
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.2450
Yeah that's the link to adding them on but I've never known lights to be on the car from the factory in the first place.
Just curious to when VW pulled them as its definitely not on any of the year changes that I've seen :shocked:
I'm sure the early GTDs and GTIs didn't have them, My Sept 2013 GTD didn't. Some people put them in (Sootchucker maybe?), and they're not on the very recent Golfs. No big deal, my car doors spend 99.99% of the time closed, and if a car was coming at my open door in the dark, the reflector would make it seen. Think of the extra weight they would add. :rolleyes: :tongue:
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Ive had two mk7s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk6s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk5s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had a mk4 GTI and I can't remember whether it did or didn't but my 2001 Leon Cupra did
I had two mk3 VR6's and neither had lights there (mind you they might have as it was a long time ago, but I'm sure my memory for back then works far better than trying to remember last week...)
I had about half a dozen mk2 GTI's and you were lucky to even get electric Windows never mind fancy door lights or even reflectors.
I can't remember much about my mk1's as they spent most of the time getting fixed...
God I feel old now.
Anyway, VW haven't just cheaped out on them on Golfs recently.
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Ive had two mk7s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk6s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk5s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had a mk4 GTI and I can't remember whether it did or didn't but my 2001 Leon Cupra did
I had two mk3 VR6's and neither had lights there (mind you they might have as it was a long time ago, but I'm sure my memory for back then works far better than trying to remember last week...)
I had about half a dozen mk2 GTI's and you were lucky to even get electric Windows never mind fancy door lights or even reflectors.
I can't remember much about my mk1's as they spent most of the time getting fixed...
God I feel old now.
Anyway, VW haven't just cheaped out on them on Golfs recently.
So would you say you're a fan of the VW Golf then!
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The thread of mine that was pointed to where I added rear lights to the bottom of the door cards, was effectively a part 2 DIY.
I had already added lights to the front cards some weeks earlier. My GTD was delivered only a couple of months after they first hit the UK shores, and they were certainly not shipped with any active door lights at all.
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My Passat doesn't have lights in the door, but it does in the mirrors. I guess there's no need for both.
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My Passat doesn't have lights in the door, but it does in the mirrors. I guess there's no need for both.
My CC has them in both front and back doors.
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Ive had two mk7s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk6s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk5s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had a mk4 GTI and I can't remember whether it did or didn't but my 2001 Leon Cupra did
I had two mk3 VR6's and neither had lights there (mind you they might have as it was a long time ago, but I'm sure my memory for back then works far better than trying to remember last week...)
I had about half a dozen mk2 GTI's and you were lucky to even get electric Windows never mind fancy door lights or even reflectors.
I can't remember much about my mk1's as they spent most of the time getting fixed...
God I feel old now.
Anyway, VW haven't just cheaped out on them on Golfs recently.
So would you say you're a fan of the VW Golf then!
That would bore me senseless sticking with the same manufacturer. It's the equivalent of going on holiday to the same destination year after year. You got to broaden your horizons and try something different
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Ive had two mk7s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk6s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk5s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had a mk4 GTI and I can't remember whether it did or didn't but my 2001 Leon Cupra did
I had two mk3 VR6's and neither had lights there (mind you they might have as it was a long time ago, but I'm sure my memory for back then works far better than trying to remember last week...)
I had about half a dozen mk2 GTI's and you were lucky to even get electric Windows never mind fancy door lights or even reflectors.
I can't remember much about my mk1's as they spent most of the time getting fixed...
God I feel old now.
Anyway, VW haven't just cheaped out on them on Golfs recently.
So would you say you're a fan of the VW Golf then!
That would bore me senseless sticking with the same manufacturer. It's the equivalent of going on holiday to the same destination year after year. You got to broaden your horizons and try something different
But then it's also like going to bed with the same beautiful woman every night and committing to that woman for the rest of your days... Many of us do it!
* I say this only 3 years into married life, who the hell knows what will happen in the future! :grin:
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Ive had two mk7s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk6s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk5s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had a mk4 GTI and I can't remember whether it did or didn't but my 2001 Leon Cupra did
I had two mk3 VR6's and neither had lights there (mind you they might have as it was a long time ago, but I'm sure my memory for back then works far better than trying to remember last week...)
I had about half a dozen mk2 GTI's and you were lucky to even get electric Windows never mind fancy door lights or even reflectors.
I can't remember much about my mk1's as they spent most of the time getting fixed...
God I feel old now.
Anyway, VW haven't just cheaped out on them on Golfs recently.
So would you say you're a fan of the VW Golf then!
That would bore me senseless sticking with the same manufacturer. It's the equivalent of going on holiday to the same destination year after year. You got to broaden your horizons and try something different
But then it's also like going to bed with the same beautiful woman every night and committing to that woman for the rest of your days... Many of us do it!
* I say this only 3 years into married life, who the hell knows what will happen in the future! :grin:
Jesus, you're really depressing me here :grin: :grin:
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Ive had two mk7s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk6s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk5s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had a mk4 GTI and I can't remember whether it did or didn't but my 2001 Leon Cupra did
I had two mk3 VR6's and neither had lights there (mind you they might have as it was a long time ago, but I'm sure my memory for back then works far better than trying to remember last week...)
I had about half a dozen mk2 GTI's and you were lucky to even get electric Windows never mind fancy door lights or even reflectors.
I can't remember much about my mk1's as they spent most of the time getting fixed...
God I feel old now.
Anyway, VW haven't just cheaped out on them on Golfs recently.
So would you say you're a fan of the VW Golf then!
That would bore me senseless sticking with the same manufacturer. It's the equivalent of going on holiday to the same destination year after year. You got to broaden your horizons and try something different
But then it's also like going to bed with the same beautiful woman every night and committing to that woman for the rest of your days... Many of us do it!
* I say this only 3 years into married life, who the hell knows what will happen in the future! :grin:
I've been married over 26 years and go to either Tenerife or Florida every year.
I don't think I'm that boring......well possibly.
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I've had/have all three of the mk 7 'performance' golfs (R,GTI,GTD), and my conclusion is this:
- They're all the same inside, pretty much.
- GTI looks the best from the front.
- R looks the best from the back.
- GTD has the best alloys.
- If you're interested in miles per gallon/do long journeys - get a GTD (47-50 when driven hard, you can't argue with that).
- If you're interested in speed - get an R (p!sses on the others, its miles quicker).
- If you want the best of both worlds - get a GTI PP.
Simples :smiley:
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Ive had two mk7s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk6s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had two mk5s and neither had lights there (just reflectors)
I had a mk4 GTI and I can't remember whether it did or didn't but my 2001 Leon Cupra did
I had two mk3 VR6's and neither had lights there (mind you they might have as it was a long time ago, but I'm sure my memory for back then works far better than trying to remember last week...)
I had about half a dozen mk2 GTI's and you were lucky to even get electric Windows never mind fancy door lights or even reflectors.
I can't remember much about my mk1's as they spent most of the time getting fixed...
God I feel old now.
Anyway, VW haven't just cheaped out on them on Golfs recently.
So would you say you're a fan of the VW Golf then!
That would bore me senseless sticking with the same manufacturer. It's the equivalent of going on holiday to the same destination year after year. You got to broaden your horizons and try something different
I am Mr Boring!
I've been with the same employer for 20 odd years (not really through choice, I'm stuck there!), married for 25 years and lived in my last house for just under 20 years (again, not really 100% through choice). My wife would go to Disney in Orlando every year if she could (she really is a creature of habit) so I get dragged there most years.
Seriously though, I have a good friend who works for a leasing company and I'll always ask him for advice as he drives everything under the sun. He will always gravitate towards a Golf of some description too.
The reason why the GTI is so iconic is because it's so good a blend and always has been (ignoring the mk3 which was a good car in its day but not really a good GTI).
I'm just kind of stuck with Golfs, I used to spend ages looking at alternatives but the common denominator was usually a Golf GTI or a close relative.
I had a 205 GTI 1.9 many years ago that was good fun but it wasn't a Golf, I've had a few Polos (GT GTI G40), some newer ones and some just as my runabout cars, I've had SEAT Ibizas and numerous hire cars, loan cars, company pool cars when they used to run them in work but always seem to gravitate back to VW's favourite baby: a Golf GTI (or derivative there of).
Hot (warm?) hatches are just perfect for me, I like the biggish engine in a smallish body ethos. The Golf GTI is generally the best all rounder of the bunch.
They're about the right size for my family, have a decent image - not too high brow and not too low brow, acceptable to all which kind of suits me perfectly. Park one on a council estate and yeah, it'll be aspirational but not snobby so you'll be accepted. Park one on a suburban housing estate and you'll get knowing nods of approval and quiet acceptance. Park one outside a mansion and the badge will still be accepted and they'll know you're not a crushing snob nor likely to be a burglar.
Just about enough performance but easily modifiable.
Handle pretty good but easily modifiable.
Ride ok.
Look ok.
Yep, I'm happy with boring!
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Its not a Lambo... its a Golf.
Its not a sports car its a hatchback.
Its not a super charged v12, its a turbo 4.
Its not a van, estate or mud plugger its a medium sized family car.
Its not a gas guzzler, its quite frugal.
Its not 80 grand to buy, its less than thirty.
A Golf isn't a lot of things, but for most people it represents the limits of their practical and financial aspirations.
I think its easy for people here on this Mk7 page to feel like it needs to be more, but it doesn't - you already have something better than most.
Just a little perspective :D
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Its not a Lambo... its a Golf.
Its not a sports car its a hatchback.
Its not a super charged v12, its a turbo 4.
Its not a van, estate or mud plugger its a medium sized family car.
Its not a gas guzzler, its quite frugal.
Its not 80 grand to buy, its less than thirty.
A Golf isn't a lot of things, but for most people it represents the limits of their practical and financial aspirations.
I think its easy for people here on this Mk7 page to feel like it needs to be more, but it doesn't - you already have something better than most.
Just a little perspective :D
Bravo for this. Getting rather bored with the same dreary sh!te people drone on about.
Thanks fredgroves. You read my mind. :smiley:
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It's incredibly frustrating awaiting delivery of your new car whilst reading about everyone else's
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Its not a Lambo... its a Golf.
Its not a sports car its a hatchback.
Its not a super charged v12, its a turbo 4.
Its not a van, estate or mud plugger its a medium sized family car.
Its not a gas guzzler, its quite frugal.
Its not 80 grand to buy, its less than thirty.
A Golf isn't a lot of things, but for most people it represents the limits of their practical and financial aspirations.
I think its easy for people here on this Mk7 page to feel like it needs to be more, but it doesn't - you already have something better than most.
Just a little perspective :D
If Lamborghini's came with red tartan upholstery then I could be tempted. But they don't so the Golf suits me fine! Plus a Lamborghini wouldn't fit in my work car park (I'm thinking Murcielago, no Gallardo nonsense).
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If Exonion (love your posts by the way) is Mr Boring then I must be Mr Dull.
Three GTIs on the trot. All Deep Black Pearl.
:embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Like Exonion I've owned or driven lots of cars/vans/trucks/tanks/buses/bikes. I have sort of settled on the GTI being the one for me. And I like black.
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Received another complement on the GTi today from a guy at work who has owned one GTi and two diesel Golfs. Gist of it was, always was a great a car and still a great car!
Nothing more to say really!
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Thoughts on the GTI before I have even taken delivery.
Install security lights at front of house with PIR.
Install CCTV at the same time.
Polish baseball bat and sharpen machete.
Yes, paranoia has well and truly set in at Kalimon towers after reading a few posts on here.
Hopefully it will all be unnecessary but it can't do any harm :smiley:
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Thoughts on the GTI before I have even taken delivery.
Install security lights at front of house with PIR.
Install CCTV at the same time.
Polish baseball bat and sharpen machete.
Yes, paranoia has well and truly set in at Kalimon towers after reading a few posts on here.
Hopefully it will all be unnecessary but it can't do any harm :smiley:
Had mine now for a week and I installed cctv and have a disklok on it and I though I was going to be paranoid but in fact I forget it's outside until I actually go out and then it just lights up my eyes!!
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Do you put some sort of protection on your steering wheel before you put the Diskloc on?
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If Exonion (love your posts by the way) is Mr Boring then I must be Mr Dull.
Three GTIs on the trot. All Deep Black Pearl.
:embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Like Exonion I've owned or driven lots of cars/vans/trucks/tanks/buses/bikes. I have sort of settled on the GTI being the one for me. And I like black.
To be fair black is the best colour...for 5 minutes when it's clean
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If Exonion (love your posts by the way) is Mr Boring then I must be Mr Dull.
Three GTIs on the trot. All Deep Black Pearl.
:embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Like Exonion I've owned or driven lots of cars/vans/trucks/tanks/buses/bikes. I have sort of settled on the GTI being the one for me. And I like black.
To be fair black is the best colour...for 5 minutes when it's clean
Black is nice, just not as nice as Carbon Grey
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If Exonion (love your posts by the way) is Mr Boring then I must be Mr Dull.
Three GTIs on the trot. All Deep Black Pearl.
:embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Like Exonion I've owned or driven lots of cars/vans/trucks/tanks/buses/bikes. I have sort of settled on the GTI being the one for me. And I like black.
To be fair black is the best colour...for 5 minutes when it's clean
Black is nice, just not as nice as Carbon Grey
Seconded :wink:
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If Exonion (love your posts by the way) is Mr Boring then I must be Mr Dull.
Three GTIs on the trot. All Deep Black Pearl.
:embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Like Exonion I've owned or driven lots of cars/vans/trucks/tanks/buses/bikes. I have sort of settled on the GTI being the one for me. And I like black.
Ohhhh you'll make me blush!
I always assumed people just put up with my scatty rantings like they do with a slightly embarrassing nutty relative!! :grin:
I like black.
My other car is black.
At least it used to be, it's more just dirt colour now and just like my dirt coloured R it breaks my heart every time I look at it.
Black just takes so much work but is so rewarding when it's clean.
In my old house I had a wide hardstanding at the back of the house on a service road (cul de sac) that you could park three cars on and come light rain or shine I'd be out there practically every week cleaning the cars with the only exceptions being when it was so cold the hosepipe was frozen or if they were heavily salting the roads making it pointless cleaning the car.
Then I moved to a building site and after four months of my cars taking a daily barrage of sand storm followed by a mud bath when winter hit I just gave up the battle.
Maybe when I retire I'll be able to afford an Aygo with my pension and once again I'll be the eccentric guy out there polishing his car in all weathers. They will have hopefully stopped building the magnolia boxes in my neighbourhood by then.
By choice and to fit in with my Mr Boring image I've always been a fan of mid grey and silver.
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Do you put some sort of protection on your steering wheel before you put the Diskloc on?
I have got a cover yeah but to be honest the disklok comes with a soft sponge lining on the inside and hasn't left any marks yet
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Do you put some sort of protection on your steering wheel before you put the Diskloc on?
I have got a cover yeah but to be honest the disklok comes with a soft sponge lining on the inside and hasn't left any marks yet
What size disklok did you get? my gti hasnt arrived yet but im wanting to get this disklok so i have it ready.
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You sound just like me, car not even arrived and you're spending money on it!
I've spent at least £150 already on detailing brushes, detailing stool etc.
God knows when this spending will stop once the car actually arrives :shocked:
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Hahahahahah
I can realate to that, I've bought mats, carbon mirror caps and detailing equipment. I seriously need to reign in the spending for a car that won't be here for another month yet. :smiley:
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I was thinking the other day about what the best drive I've had so far in my GTI. I've been away on holiday a couple of times in the car amongst some beautiful scenery on some great roads plus some great days out. But, it isn't any of those. The best drive is infact the humdrum ride home from work! I've always enjoyed driving from when I was very young and my dad used to let me steer the car on the motorway (!) to when I was in my early teens and was allowed to drive the car round a private estate unattended. Being on holiday makes everything more enjoyable but the GTI's ability to cheer me up on the boring commute after a day of mind numbing torture stuck at a desk is incredible - regardless of whether it's a relaxed cruise or a bit of a thrash it makes me happy and soothes away the disappointment of the day! Perhaps it should be available on the NHS?!
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The wait is killing me and your post just made it worse
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Mine arrived at the dealers this morning and my salesman sent a brief video - looks awesome and I really can't wait to get my hands on it now! Hopefully collect it at the end of the week. A few sleepless nights ahead!
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You not waiting until the new registration in March?
Or is it a lease / works car in which case it won't matter.
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No, I'll be putting a private plate on it so doesn't bother me that it'll be a '65' rather than a '16'. Might make a tiny little bit of difference to value at the other end, but negligible in the great scheme of things. I did think about waiting, but I know I won't be able to stand knowing that it's sitting there ready to go for 3 weeks!
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Passes 5000 miles this morning, the car never fails to impress. I've arrived feeling like I've done 20 miles not nearly 150, the engine is starting to loosen up too, this is my best average mpg so far.
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Do you put some sort of protection on your steering wheel before you put the Diskloc on?
I have got a cover yeah but to be honest the disklok comes with a soft sponge lining on the inside and hasn't left any marks yet
What size disklok did you get? my gti hasnt arrived yet but im wanting to get this disklok so i have it ready.
Small 35cm to 39cm
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What sort of mpg should you be getting on the Gti. Real not predicted.
If only done 200miles and it's about 25mpg how long does it take to run the engine in?
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What sort of mpg should you be getting on the Gti. Real not predicted.
If only done 200miles and it's about 25mpg how long does it take to run the engine in?
Very much depends on your driving style and conditions. Mine is on around 5500 miles and on a short, cold commute sub 30 mpg but mostly 30-32. On a longer run, 40 is easy if taken steady, even 45 mpg. Driving a bit more aggressively, 33 - 35. Long term average is about 36 right now but most of my drives are 5-6 miles from cold so I'm more than happy.
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If Exonion (love your posts by the way) is Mr Boring then I must be Mr Dull.
Three GTIs on the trot. All Deep Black Pearl.
:embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Like Exonion I've owned or driven lots of cars/vans/trucks/tanks/buses/bikes. I have sort of settled on the GTI being the one for me. And I like black.
Ohhhh you'll make me blush!
I always assumed people just put up with my scatty rantings like they do with a slightly embarrassing nutty relative!! :grin:
I like black.
My other car is black.
At least it used to be, it's more just dirt colour now and just like my dirt coloured R it breaks my heart every time I look at it.
Black just takes so much work but is so rewarding when it's clean.
In my old house I had a wide hardstanding at the back of the house on a service road (cul de sac) that you could park three cars on and come light rain or shine I'd be out there practically every week cleaning the cars with the only exceptions being when it was so cold the hosepipe was frozen or if they were heavily salting the roads making it pointless cleaning the car.
Then I moved to a building site and after four months of my cars taking a daily barrage of sand storm followed by a mud bath when winter hit I just gave up the battle.
Maybe when I retire I'll be able to afford an Aygo with my pension and once again I'll be the eccentric guy out there polishing his car in all weathers. They will have hopefully stopped building the magnolia boxes in my neighbourhood by then.
By choice and to fit in with my Mr Boring image I've always been a fan of mid grey and silver.
Me too, I've had GTIs since 1990, two MK2s, a MK4 and now the MK7. Who is being bored? Certainly not me. They are great cars to own and drive.
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What sort of mpg should you be getting on the Gti. Real not predicted.
If only done 200miles and it's about 25mpg how long does it take to run the engine in?
Very much depends on your driving style and conditions. Mine is on around 5500 miles and on a short, cold commute sub 30 mpg but mostly 30-32. On a longer run, 40 is easy if taken steady, even 45 mpg. Driving a bit more aggressively, 33 - 35. Long term average is about 36 right now but most of my drives are 5-6 miles from cold so I'm more than happy.
I haven't done that many miles and not taken above 3500rpm so being gentle. I'm hoping I get too see mid 30s but I'm putting it down to the fact I'm still running in that it's quiet low at the moment.