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Title: Lots of R's
Post by: mk7gti on 12 December 2015, 21:18
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Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Booth11 on 12 December 2015, 21:21
Common as muck they are!
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Cossieian on 12 December 2015, 21:21
How much were they going for mate??
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Restlessnative on 12 December 2015, 21:22
They hunt in packs!.I'd choose the one with a heated windscreen (if any).Just started using it on my GTD and it's fantastic.Not such an issue on the much faster warming up R.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: mk7gti on 12 December 2015, 21:27
Cossieian I'm afraid I didn't ask too many questions on prices for the R's as they are all very well equipped. They has seven ready for sale so I'm sure there is a deal to be had.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Restlessnative on 12 December 2015, 21:31
Cossieian I'm afraid I didn't ask too many questions on prices for the R's as they are all very well equipped. They has seven ready for sale so I'm sure there is a deal to be had.

Especially at this time of year.Even with the R- dealers have a lot of spare time on their hands as showroom traffic dries up.
Still to see an R Estate.Ultimate in cool. :cool:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: phope on 12 December 2015, 21:44
My local dealer (Aberdeen) were advertising around 7 new Golf R, all delivery mileage, the other day on their Facebook page with up to £4k savings on list price allegedly

All with 19" Pretoria, weirdly enough

https://www.facebook.com/specialistcarsvw/posts/1142768989074164
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Restlessnative on 12 December 2015, 21:57
My local dealer (Aberdeen) were advertising around 7 new Golf R, all delivery mileage, the other day on their Facebook page with up to £4k savings on list price allegedly

All with 19" Pretoria, weirdly enough

https://www.facebook.com/specialistcarsvw/posts/1142768989074164

Camerons in Perth are always stocked up with R's too.Just seems to be them in the Central/Tayside Belt though.Went there in the Summer before i bought my GTD.Salivating at the R's on the forecourt. :drool:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Gtiless on 12 December 2015, 22:48
Huddersfield VW had 3 new Golf R's in during the summer, (June/July ish I think) they wouldn't come down to what I offered so I walked thinking they would probably be in touch-I never heard anything.

Has anyone on here been in recently? Have they got any in at the mo? I have not been up that way for a while and they don't seem to advertise them?
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 13 December 2015, 00:11
9 R's at Altrincham Vw according to the dealer I spoke to today.
Not a single GTI though.
What's going on?
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Restlessnative on 13 December 2015, 01:48
9 R's at Altrincham Vw according to the dealer I spoke to today.
Not a single GTI though.
What's going on?

It would seem the R is the new GTI.And so it came to pass... :cool:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: caprigreen on 13 December 2015, 08:42
9 R's at Altrincham Vw according to the dealer I spoke to today.
Not a single GTI though.
What's going on?

It would seem the R is the new GTI.And so it came to pass... :cool:

I am delighted there are more Rs than GTIs. Both great cars but nice to have heritage and rarer car. Suits my needs perfectly.
If they undercook the GTI like they did for the MK3 then I would be tempted away but with the GTI being so accomplished I am happy .
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 13 December 2015, 09:44
I love the R's capabilities but like the look of the GTI more, and even though it's not as fast and is only front wheel drive, I'm glad I ordered one.
Also lets not forget that it's a fair few grand more than the GTI, especially if you spec it up a bit, and if like me you are buying it outright, you have to draw the line with your bubget somewhere.
My line was £26000 max.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: mk7gti on 13 December 2015, 11:20
Apparently the smart dealers use some system loophole to steal build slots on R's. I was told its still 6 months on an R factory order. I was too tight to spend the extra on an R :smiley:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: caprigreen on 13 December 2015, 11:37
I love the R's capabilities but like the look of the GTI more, and even though it's not as fast and is only front wheel drive, I'm glad I ordered one.
Also lets not forget that it's a fair few grand more than the GTI, especially if you spec it up a bit, and if like me you are buying it outright, you have to draw the line with your bubget somewhere.
My line was £26000 max.

Could not agree more. The R is a stunning car I am sure all the R owners are happy with their choice, and rightly so.
My itch is with the clubsport not the R. When the order book opens for that I need to sit on my hands 😀
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: davyk31 on 15 December 2015, 21:47
Is that Agnew Boucher or Newtownabbey?
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Bullfinch on 15 December 2015, 21:52
I wonder what the respective UK sales stats are for Mk7 GTD's, GTi's and R's.  Certainly VW must have sold more Mk7 R's than Mk6 ones.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Jackie Treehorn on 15 December 2015, 22:14
To get some general info look here

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/browse/volkswagen/volkswagen_golf

Loads more Golf GTD and R's than GTi. Great news!
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Cossieian on 15 December 2015, 22:40
Is that Agnew Boucher or Newtownabbey?

Pretty sure it's Mallusk :smiley:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: fredgroves on 16 December 2015, 07:27
If you want rarity...

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_pink_floyd_cabrio
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 16 December 2015, 16:29
There is really only one explanation for the amount of R's on the road compared to GTI's, cheap PCP and lease deals.
The difference in payments between the two is relatively small ( compared to an outright purchase ) so buyers opt to pay a few quid more a month for a quicker car.
The first thing my dealer said to me was 'why not get an R', until I told him I was buying it outright.
As for GTD's, that must be down to people getting them as company cars over GTI's or R's.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: GolfTi on 16 December 2015, 21:23
Agree with the above.

There is a lot of hype on here about the Golf R. I don't want want one. If I did I'd already have one.

Yes, it is obviously faster.

But....

It looks really plain until you see the rear end then it looks a bit silly.
Boot space is restricted, major problem for me.
MPG.
R line Golfs.
Insurance.
Common as muck.
The 'what's that?' questions.(errmm, a bit like a GTI but FASTER...)
No heritage. (I didn't have a Golf R fifteen years ago)
No Jacara cloth.
Golfball.
No fogs.

Purchase price.(Unless you're leasing of course. Does anyone actually own an R??)


GTD
If I was a company car driver then I'd probably have one.
Not a fan of dirty diesels. Never have been.

Still loving my GTI 30K in.  :cool: :cool: :cool:







Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Booth11 on 16 December 2015, 21:36
Lots of anti R feeling on here lately.  Are you lot reclaiming your forum.  :grin:

Yes that's right, fogs maketh the car.  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Heritage takes time to build.  The GTI didn't have heritage nearly 40 years ago.  :wink:

I own an R.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 16 December 2015, 22:21
I'm certainly not anti 'R' and I personally like the subtle styling although maybe too subtle from the front.
The way car buying has changed over the last few years means we are seeing people driving cars like the R who wouldn't normally be able to afford one and this has made them relatively common.
My one pet hate with the R is Lapiz Blue but that's just personal preference.
Looks the dogs in black though :laugh:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 16 December 2015, 22:24
Agree with the above.

There is a lot of hype on here about the Golf R. I don't want want one. If I did I'd already have one.

Yes, it is obviously faster.

But....

It looks really plain until you see the rear end then it looks a bit silly.
Boot space is restricted, major problem for me.
MPG.
R line Golfs.
Insurance.
Common as muck.
The 'what's that?' questions.(errmm, a bit like a GTI but FASTER...)
No heritage. (I didn't have a Golf R fifteen years ago)
No Jacara cloth.
Golfball.
No fogs.

Purchase price.(Unless you're leasing of course. Does anyone actually own an R??)


GTD
If I was a company car driver then I'd probably have one.
Not a fan of dirty diesels. Never have been.

Still loving my GTI 30K in.  :cool: :cool: :cool:
Just spotted the 'mine' in your signature.....hilarious :evil:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Cossieian on 16 December 2015, 22:28
My R is not leased, but I totally get your point, years ago a vast majority of the owners now would simply not be able to afford one ie making them more exclusive
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Booth11 on 16 December 2015, 22:47
I'm certainly not anti 'R' and I personally like the subtle styling although maybe too subtle from the front.
The way car buying has changed over the last few years means we are seeing people driving cars like the R who wouldn't normally be able to afford one and this has made them relatively common.
My one pet hate with the R is Lapiz Blue but that's just personal preference.
Looks the dogs in black though :laugh:

The whole cheap lease deal era put more R's on the road for sure, and reduced the exclusivity somewhat, and at first that bothered me but I got over it, once I got in the car!  And, relatively speaking I don't think they are really as common as some would like to think, lol.

There's 4 R's round my way and roughly the same amount of GTI's but a fair few more GTD's.  If 4 R's (in a locality of 150,000 residents) is deemed to be 'common' then I can live with that, haha.  Good job I don't have a Nissan Joke otherwise I'd be crying my heart out.....now that's a common car.......they're breeding like rabid bunnies round my way.

I am massive fan of the GTI (having had 3 myself) and I half expected to not love the R as much, but boy was I wrong!  I just love it!  Understated it is but actually rather menacing looking from the front which doesn't always come across in photos, and as much as the quad tailpipes might seem 'silly' to some, once you've got them, they add something extra to the car, and suddenly 2 tailpipes seems lacking.

I'm not a massive fan of Lapiz myself but never been a blue car person.  Now black, that's another matter!

As for the whole 'owning' thing, I do own my R outright, and I like 'owning' a car, but I couldn't care less how someone chooses to pay for their car.  True, there's people that wouldn't be in an R if it wasn't for the former lease deals, but so what! They will move on quickly enough to something else. There's plenty of people in R's who appreciate it for what it is (a fast Golf) and would like to do their bit for helping to build some R heritage. 
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 17 December 2015, 07:20
You certainly can't call the R 'common'.
I don't think any of the sporty Golfs are particularly common on our roads compared to other manufacturers.
I mean 1 series BMWs are incredibly common and they are all pretending to be fast hatches :grin:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: JB GTI on 17 December 2015, 07:26
My mk7 GTI PP was MINE !!
My mk7 R is MINE !!
Both bought with my own money. Both great cars  :wink:

Booth11
"I'm not a massive fan of Lapiz myself but never been a blue car person.  Now black, that's another matter!"

I used to like you  :kiss:

Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Booth11 on 17 December 2015, 07:45
My mk7 GTI PP was MINE !!
My mk7 R is MINE !!
Both bought with my own money. Both great cars  :wink:

Booth11
"I'm not a massive fan of Lapiz myself but never been a blue car person.  Now black, that's another matter!"

I used to like you  :kiss:

 :cry: :cry: :cry:  :tongue:

Yes, but not all Lapiz R's look like yours. :cool: (where's the grovelling emoji, lol). 

And even though I'm not a blue car person, it's tells you something that I very nearly ordered a Lapiz myself, it was the only other colour on my shortlist.  Then I bottled it and went DBP, cos it's just so much easier to keep clean.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 17 December 2015, 13:10
There's some serious back peddling going on here today :rolleyes:
If all Lapiz R's looked like #wigit's does in his post from Tuesday, my opinion could be changed.
The light has caught it really well and made it look a lot lighter than Lapiz normally looks.
It would look even better in Carbon Grey.

Oh yeah just remembered, it's not available :wink:
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: CraigW on 17 December 2015, 13:24
I must admit i'm getting bored with the looks of the car whether its the GTI or R. There's not doubt its a very capable car but it's just a bit dull in its appearance. Up my neck of the woods I see loads of R's and GTD's. Not so many GTI's but then they look identical to the GTD anyway. It's just become a run of the mill car to me.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: kalimon on 17 December 2015, 13:42
I like the fact it's a bit understated, it's always been part of it's appeal.
Get yourself a fast Ford or similar if you want something a bit more in your face.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Booth11 on 17 December 2015, 13:46
There's some serious back peddling going on here today :rolleyes:
If all Lapiz R's looked like #wigit's does in his post from Tuesday, my opinion could be changed.
The light has caught it really well and made it look a lot lighter than Lapiz normally looks.
It would look even better in Carbon Grey.

Oh yeah just remembered, it's not available :wink:

Ah yes Carbon Grey – the missed R opportunity. Why VW? Why?  :cry:

Haha, lots of back pedalling.  :laugh:

I agree with your comments though.  When you see Lapiz with that really bright blue ‘pop’ it looks great, like wigit’s in his ‘dirty’ pic and like JBGTI’s in all the pics he’s posted.  However when it takes on that much darker blue look, I’m much less keen. It was that that put me off it when deciding what colour to go for.  There's a couple in Canterbury and they always look really dark, but probably down to needing some detailing TLC.  I very much liked the Mk6 R Rising Blue.

Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Booth11 on 17 December 2015, 13:50
I must admit i'm getting bored with the looks of the car whether its the GTI or R. There's not doubt its a very capable car but it's just a bit dull in its appearance. Up my neck of the woods I see loads of R's and GTD's. Not so many GTI's but then they look identical to the GTD anyway. It's just become a run of the mill car to me.

Time for a change then Craig?  Got anything in mind?

Like Kalimon I'm fine with understated cars, but I have a real soft spot for Focus ST's but I wouldn't get one. At a certain age it just looks stupid.  I'll stick with dull but capable.  :smiley: 

 
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: CraigW on 17 December 2015, 14:00
I must admit i'm getting bored with the looks of the car whether its the GTI or R. There's not doubt its a very capable car but it's just a bit dull in its appearance. Up my neck of the woods I see loads of R's and GTD's. Not so many GTI's but then they look identical to the GTD anyway. It's just become a run of the mill car to me.

Time for a change then Craig?  Got anything in mind?

Like Kalimon I'm fine with understated cars, but I have a real soft spot for Focus ST's but I wouldn't get one. At a certain age it just looks stupid.  I'll stick with dull but capable.  :smiley:

The big difference between me and Kalimon is that i've had the car for 2.5 years so the excitement has long worn off where as he hasn't taken delivery of his yet.

I'm not saying i'm looking for a shouty car but just a change of scenery. I do really fancy an M235i but will hold off a while to see anything else appears on the market in the next 6 months or so.

Those ambitions may be curtailed anyway given i work in the public sector and budgets are being slashed left, right and centre
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: Booth11 on 17 December 2015, 14:34
I must admit i'm getting bored with the looks of the car whether its the GTI or R. There's not doubt its a very capable car but it's just a bit dull in its appearance. Up my neck of the woods I see loads of R's and GTD's. Not so many GTI's but then they look identical to the GTD anyway. It's just become a run of the mill car to me.

Time for a change then Craig?  Got anything in mind?

Like Kalimon I'm fine with understated cars, but I have a real soft spot for Focus ST's but I wouldn't get one. At a certain age it just looks stupid.  I'll stick with dull but capable.  :smiley:

The big difference between me and Kalimon is that i've had the car for 2.5 years so the excitement has long worn off where as he hasn't taken delivery of his yet.

I'm not saying i'm looking for a shouty car but just a change of scenery. I do really fancy an M235i but will hold off a while to see anything else appears on the market in the next 6 months or so.

Those ambitions may be curtailed anyway given i work in the public sector and budgets are being slashed left, right and centre

Yes you are at opposite ends of the spectrum, so understandable.  Although I don't really get bored so much, at the point your at I usually start looking around for the next car, unless I absolutely love the one I'm in.  My last Mk5 GTI being an example, kept that for 4 years as wasn't ready to give it up earlier.

Understand your caution about future car purchases.  I too work into the public sector and the same budgetary cuts taking place year on year on year.  Staff levels have dropped by over 50% in last 3 years. And no end in sight!
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: dubber36 on 17 December 2015, 15:33
Understand your caution about future car purchases.  I too work into the public sector and the same budgetary cuts taking place year on year on year.  Staff levels have dropped by over 50% in last 3 years. And no end in sight!

The same has happened here in Shropshire. The council have cut their staff in half, so most of the most useful planning officers and building inspectors, that had got their years in, have taken their pensions and set up in private practice as planning consultants and independent building inspectors. The council can't keep up with the workload, so are having to outsource.

If local authorities were run as 'proper' businesses, they would last no time at all.
Title: Re: Lots of R's
Post by: wakey on 17 December 2015, 16:14
I bought my R outright from VW. It was pre reg with about 5 miles on the clock.

The reason for the glut of R's for sale at main dealers is this; the R got phenominal reviews in the motoring press and lots of orders were placed. The dealers snapped up lots of build slots (the dealership I bought mine from originally pre reg 36 of them) and hoped to sell them quickly.

Then the scandal came out and VW sales have dipped big time. Dealers now have a lot of cars to shift as they have got caught out by the press stories murmuring about slow sales and potential petrol co2 issues.

For anyone wanting to buy an R then go and haggle really hard and you would grab a deal. I got a great deal.

As for GTi's - I also have an edition 30 which I love to bits, but the thing I love about the R is that no matter what the weather if you bury the throttle it just squats and goes. My Ed 30 spins the wheels in 1st 2nd and sometimes 3rd in the wet - useless really.

Re the exhausts on the R - yeah I agree they are far too much and at odds with the subtle styling.