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Title: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Optimus prime on 31 July 2015, 19:43
Guys,

My pro nav is running the latest maps but still doesn't give me the option of entering a house number when navigating with postcode input only it comes up with no street data?.  However if you enter the full address by town & street then the option to enter the house number is available, so surely the street data is available?  Seems very odd, the manual doesn't help either :rolleyes: but I would of expected the house number option in postcode entry the same as tom tom.

Am I doing something wrong?


Help pls
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: TwoSheds on 31 July 2015, 20:21
Mine does the same.

Its the way it is unless I've been missing something.

Its only in fairly recent history that VW units accepted seven digit postcodes !
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Optimus prime on 31 July 2015, 20:24
Mine does the same.

Its the way it is unless I've been missing something.

Its only in fairly recent history that VW units accepted seven digit postcodes !

Dammit....but thanks for the reply I can't see how it says street data not available when it clearly is when you input old style (town & street) kind of defeats the postcode option as it just puts you in the area :whistle:  Tom tom have been doing it for years
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Eccie on 31 July 2015, 21:07
It doesn't make sense, with my RNS in my old MK5 GTi you could add the address number, after entering the postcode, yet with my D Pro you can't  :sad:
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Jimble on 31 July 2015, 21:50
My nav can't find my house using the postcode, pretty poor when you think how much it costs.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 August 2015, 08:20
My nav can't find my house using the postcode, pretty poor when you think how much it costs.

Is it a new build? I've bought 2 houses off plan in my time and it's generally taken about 8 months for all the relevant databases (for billing companies) to recognise the postcode.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 August 2015, 08:46
It's taken nearly 2 years for my friends house in Pickering to be on any sat nav.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Jimble on 01 August 2015, 10:40
My nav can't find my house using the postcode, pretty poor when you think how much it costs.

Is it a new build? I've bought 2 houses off plan in my time and it's generally taken about 8 months for all the relevant databases (for billing companies) to recognise the postcode.

Nope, bout 60 years old i think, it'll find it no problem using the city/road/number just can't find the postcode. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: James75 on 01 August 2015, 12:39
That's very odd

If I use the postcode feature I can input the street and house number.

The options follow once I put in the postcode

Not that postcodes are always that useful in Devon - they can cover such a large area or be in rural areas that sometimes it doesn't help.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Optimus prime on 01 August 2015, 15:32
That's very odd

If I use the postcode feature I can input the street and house number.

The options follow once I put in the postcode

Not that postcodes are always that useful in Devon - they can cover such a large area or be in rural areas that sometimes it doesn't help.

Interesting has your dis pro had a software update ?
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: James75 on 01 August 2015, 19:02

No

Because every time there is one, it seems to knacker your Sat Nav - as I seem to have one where postcode search works, auto zoom has not got an weird mind of its own, so I've left mine.

But If I put in postcode search - then it lets me select house number and street.

it's a bit poor of VW to get this stuff wrong, i think they possibly updated mine when I had my oil change, graphics look better, even got my first 3D building showing up today - Exeter Cathedral !!!!!


James
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: am1w on 01 August 2015, 20:17
With mine I just have to put the first 3 postcode numbers and it takes me to the street request. Something is not quite right. I give up.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Optimus prime on 02 August 2015, 12:41

No

Because every time there is one, it seems to knacker your Sat Nav - as I seem to have one where postcode search works, auto zoom has not got an weird mind of its own, so I've left mine.

But If I put in postcode search - then it lets me select house number and street.

it's a bit poor of VW to get this stuff wrong, i think they possibly updated mine when I had my oil change, graphics look better, even got my first 3D building showing up today - Exeter Cathedral !!!!!


James


What software version are you running?  I have Hardware H43 Software 0362 car is 2014

Thanks
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: phope on 02 August 2015, 17:48
My Feb 2015 car is H43, software 0376 for Discovery Pro
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Optimus prime on 02 August 2015, 17:54
My Feb 2015 car is H43, software 0376 for Discovery Pro

Does your postcode option allow you to input house numbers?  Or does it do the same as mine and say "no street data available"  However the data is available if you input the old school way (Town, Street Etc) go figure :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: James75 on 03 August 2015, 07:17

No

Because every time there is one, it seems to knacker your Sat Nav - as I seem to have one where postcode search works, auto zoom has not got an weird mind of its own, so I've left mine.

But If I put in postcode search - then it lets me select house number and street.

it's a bit poor of VW to get this stuff wrong, i think they possibly updated mine when I had my oil change, graphics look better, even got my first 3D building showing up today - Exeter Cathedral !!!!!


James


What software version are you running?  I have Hardware H43 Software 0362 car is 2014

Thanks

I will have a look today :)
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Sootchucker on 03 August 2015, 08:15
Well I have an original Nav Pro from 2013 running hardware H41 and software 0200 and mine does this as well. I have I think got a bit of a work around, however it's weird that it involves not inputting the full post code.

If I am trying to find an address with the standard 7 digit post code - (for example I will use a chip shop in a village near me), If I input it's full post code - in this case - "WA13 0AB", I then get no option to enter a street address. I can only assume the Nav believes the 7 digit code is near enough to a small area to be able to find your address ?

However, If I enter only the first part of the code e.g. "WA13 0", I can then press the list button which gives me the towns under this post code (usually only one or two), then then is a list for street names to select from (again usually only very small), then you can select a street number. Obviously this is useless if all you have is the full post code and not the street name.

Like I say, it sort of defeats the point of a full 7 digit look up, but as I say, I can only assume the 7 digit area is quite small. This is what Wikipedia says about the last 2 digits that make up a 7 digit post code (called post code units)

"The postcode unit is two characters added to the end of the postcode sector. Each postcode unit generally represents a street, part of a street, a single address, a group of properties, a single property, a sub-section of the property, an individual organisation or (for instance Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) a subsection of the organisation. The level of discrimination is often based on the amount of mail received by the premises or business. Examples of postcode units include "SW1W 0NY", "PO16 7GZ", "GU16 7HF", or "L1 8JQ"
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Websta24 on 03 August 2015, 14:54
Well I have an original Nav Pro from 2013 running hardware H41 and software 0200 and mine does this as well. I have I think got a bit of a work around, however it's weird that it involves not inputting the full post code.

If I am trying to find an address with the standard 7 digit post code - (for example I will use a chip shop in a village near me), If I input it's full post code - in this case - "WA13 0AB", I then get no option to enter a street address. I can only assume the Nav believes the 7 digit code is near enough to a small area to be able to find your address ?

However, If I enter only the first part of the code e.g. "WA13 0", I can then press the list button which gives me the towns under this post code (usually only one or two), then then is a list for street names to select from (again usually only very small), then you can select a street number. Obviously this is useless if all you have is the full post code and not the street name.

Like I say, it sort of defeats the point of a full 7 digit look up, but as I say, I can only assume the 7 digit area is quite small. This is what Wikipedia says about the last 2 digits that make up a 7 digit post code (called post code units)

"The postcode unit is two characters added to the end of the postcode sector. Each postcode unit generally represents a street, part of a street, a single address, a group of properties, a single property, a sub-section of the property, an individual organisation or (for instance Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) a subsection of the organisation. The level of discrimination is often based on the amount of mail received by the premises or business. Examples of postcode units include "SW1W 0NY", "PO16 7GZ", "GU16 7HF", or "L1 8JQ"

This sounds like they could do with putting a bit of old and new hashed together!

My current car ( 2011 Seat Leon FR) has the old RNS310 nav system. This (pile of crap) will only accept a 5 digit code CB6 1, IP24 2...etc. Once you input the 5th digit it gives a list of street names, then you can add the house number etc

Sounds like the new ones will take the post code, and then send you to that area....this could be a mile square in some cases!!

In reality, if they put the 2 together it would work wonders..full post code, select street and then house number..bingo

As someone else said...TomTom have been doing this for about 10 years
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: James75 on 04 August 2015, 07:18
In built car sat nav systems have always been behind when it comes to full UK postcode entry or at least taken some time to catch up.

I think some of the systems in French cars like the DS3 still don't accept full UK postcodes.

No - mine does the same - if you put in postcode it just goes to that postcode but then, that's what i would expect it to.  Dependent on where you live, postcodes can cover a large area, if you want the Sat Nav to find an address, put in an address, I don't really see the issue.

If you are asking your Sat Nav to find a Postcode - you're asking it to find an area - I am sure there are systems that will let you put an address in and I am sure there are times when you need the postcode search to be specific but in general, and i use my nav a lot for work, I rarely if ever do a postcode search.

The 'no street data' is just telling you the postcode is covering a larger area and not a specific street (I think)

James
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2015, 08:33
A fully updated rns510 was better than the mib1 generation units. It auto loaded radio logos and it gave you full 7 digit postcode search including address. I love the screen on my nav pro but the rns510 was better technically.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: Optimus prime on 04 August 2015, 08:54
In built car sat nav systems have always been behind when it comes to full UK postcode entry or at least taken some time to catch up.

I think some of the systems in French cars like the DS3 still don't accept full UK postcodes.

No - mine does the same - if you put in postcode it just goes to that postcode but then, that's what i would expect it to.  Dependent on where you live, postcodes can cover a large area, if you want the Sat Nav to find an address, put in an address, I don't really see the issue.

If you are asking your Sat Nav to find a Postcode - you're asking it to find an area - I am sure there are systems that will let you put an address in and I am sure there are times when you need the postcode search to be specific but in general, and i use my nav a lot for work, I rarely if ever do a postcode search.

The 'no street data' is just telling you the postcode is covering a larger area and not a specific street (I think)

James

The issue is the Tom Tom, BMW, Audi etc have all allowed there systems to ask for a house number after the postcode has been found where as our systems say "no street data available" but it clearly is when you input via the other option.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: James75 on 04 August 2015, 17:49
A fully updated rns510 was better than the mib1 generation units. It auto loaded radio logos and it gave you full 7 digit postcode search including address. I love the screen on my nav pro but the rns510 was better technically.

i've used 510's - I just don't agree with that.  They were great units but they offer nothing over the MIB1 units - they were also expensive with lots of add ons which is why VW started offering Kenwood systems at the dealer.
 

James
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2015, 18:03
The MiB 1 units offer nothing really over a fully updated (fw and maps) rns510 and to be honest the Kenwood deal had nothing to do with the rns being poor. The Kenwood was woeful to use compared to the rns510. If you take the discover and nav pro as just a sat nav with radio etc it's exactly the same as the rns. The latest rns even had ssd hard drives. I don't think the newer units were any better but by all accounts the mibii units are.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: James75 on 04 August 2015, 19:08
The MiB 1 units offer nothing really over a fully updated (fw and maps) rns510 and to be honest the Kenwood deal had nothing to do with the rns being poor. The Kenwood was woeful to use compared to the rns510. If you take the discover and nav pro as just a sat nav with radio etc it's exactly the same as the rns. The latest rns even had ssd hard drives. I don't think the newer units were any better but by all accounts the mibii units are.

i had a Kenwood - it was a good unit for the price and that was it's point, unless you raided e bay, bought a 510 yourself and fitted it, you had to spec a 510 from factory, which when you started to add bits, was expensive, the Kenwood wasn't fantastic but for it's price it had lots of features, it was a good compromise.

I'd never describe the Kenwood as woeful, I used one extensively and again, never had an issue, would have rather had a 510 but it was a cost issue.

No, i don't think the MIB1 units are 'better' than 510's - what they do offer is a more modern look and feel but it is no worse than the 510.  I think the graphics and look is improved, before we get misty eyed, 510's weren't perfect and 315's which i also used, certainly weren't. 

James
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2015, 19:30
James I think all units have issues and certainly from a price point of view they are extremely expensive from the factory when they don't need to be.
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: James75 on 05 August 2015, 07:34
James I think all units have issues and certainly from a price point of view they are extremely expensive from the factory when they don't need to be.


Absolutely - don't disagree and that's the point.  In fairness i've always felt VW have done some of the better in car sat navs.

My issues with postcode search on the Pro is actually how to access, could be clearer, it's sort of tucked away.

James
Title: Re: Discovery Pro Nav Postcode Question / Problem
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 August 2015, 08:45
Yeah I agree, certainly not very clear. I do love the big screen though even though it was really expensive and overpriced but seeing as though retro fitting is still not do able over 2 years down the line it was worth the extra.