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General => Detailing => Topic started by: GrahamFR on 01 June 2015, 14:29
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So I have been thinking about getting one of those DA's for the drill, as I thought to myself id give it a go if they werent too expensive. Im usually a cheapskate and try and find an 'alternative' product that is the 'same' as a big name but for something like this I think I should play it safe and get an actual Meguiars one.
Anyhow, the reason i'm posting before I buy one is I wanted to share something with you...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Meguiars-G3500-System-Action-Polisher/dp/B00CNBJAZ0
Amazon, I love amazon, for all its dodgy employment practices and evil conglomerate schemes, you can always find what you want! However thankfully i'm at work, where my IT is actually run through a Ireland Server, and for some reason my first hits from Google are always .COM not .CO.UK, as a result, guess what I found:
http://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-G3500-Power-System-Tool/dp/B009OBVRY4
Same product, ones £64 and the other is £26 (give or take), now of course there is handling and shipping but amazingly it only comes in at another £13, so im only paying £40 for the US version. Yes ok im waiting 9 business days instead of 3 or whatever but its not like i'm in a mega rush to sand off all my paintwork lol.
So if you're thinking about it, and wanna save a buck or two, I suggest having a gander over at the colonial websites before purchasing anything!
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As long as it doesn't get stopped for VAT, import duty and handling fees by the courier :tongue:
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As long as it doesn't get stopped for VAT, import duty and handling fees by the courier :tongue:
Apologies, the fees were in the £13 but I wasnt very clear...
Item(s) Subtotal: GBP 27.26
Shipping & Handling: GBP 6.28
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Total before tax: GBP 40.25
Estimated tax to be collected: GBP 0.00
Import Fees Deposit GBP 6.71
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Grand Total: GBP 40.25
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If it comes through like that - awesome saving!
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I'll update as the story unfolds
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What plug will it have? Those additional costs look really cheap and as JV says if it's comes through at that price then happy days but these things to have a habit of catching people out mate.
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...plug?
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What plug will it have? Those additional costs look really cheap and as JV says if it's comes through at that price then happy days but these things to have a habit of catching people out mate.
By the looks of it, it's a drill attachment Neil not a standalone DA. I suppose it depends on which drill body you attach it to, but with some I would have concerns about the ability to control the pressure being applied to the surface of the panel. Proper DA's have an ergonomic casing, a relatively short height horizontal body, and either a D handle or side handle - all of which allow application of even pressure and much greater stability and control of the machine. Not sure you get that with it attached to a bog standard drill.
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What plug will it have? Those additional costs look really cheap and as JV says if it's comes through at that price then happy days but these things to have a habit of catching people out mate.
By the looks of it, it's a drill attachment Neil not a standalone DA. I suppose it depends on which drill body you attach it to, but with some I would have concerns about the ability to control the pressure being applied to the surface of the panel. Proper DA's have an ergonomic casing, a relatively short height horizontal body, and either a D handle or side handle - all of which allow application of even pressure and much greater stability and control of the machine. Not sure you get that with it attached to a bog standard drill.
Indeed it is just the attachment, I have a drill lying around doing not a lot so why not, if it was a full on DA then for £40 it would be very suspect, but it just so happens that US amazon have it for half price.
In depth review here http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/60691-review-meguiar-s-da-power-system.html and whilst the original does win, for the price there can be no complaints.
If by some miracle I get the knack of it I may in future buy a real one, but for now this is a perfect entry into the machine world for me :smiley:
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It is a very good price so can see the attraction. Be interested to hear what it's like when you have the chance to use it :smiley:
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It is a very good price so can see the attraction. Be interested to hear what it's like when you have the chance to use it :smiley:
you mean after I drill through my bonnet :shocked:
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It is a very good price so can see the attraction. Be interested to hear what it's like when you have the chance to use it :smiley:
you mean after I drill through my bonnet :shocked:
:shocked:
Don't even joke about it Graham!
Mind you if it saves someone else from doing it. Better you be the guinea pig :evil:
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well the item has been updated to "shipped" so thats the first hurdle over, looks like amazon are genuinely going to post this over the pond for £6 lol.
If another slightly related topic, do you think you could DA the black shiny plastic pillar pieces with SRP or even maybe plastx to get the swirl marks out of them?
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well the item has been updated to "shipped" so thats the first hurdle over, looks like amazon are genuinely going to post this over the pond for £6 lol.
If another slightly related topic, do you think you could DA the black shiny plastic pillar pieces with SRP or even maybe plastx to get the swirl marks out of them?
Yes you can use a DA on the plastic pillar pieces but make sure you mask off the rubber window seals first. Would advise periodically inspecting your progress by shining an LED light on the area you are working now and then, as you go along, so you can see how many more passes with the DA are required.
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righto Booth will do when it arrives! SRP or plastx tho?
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righto Booth will do when it arrives! SRP or plastx tho?
Your call. Never used PlastX so can't comment. I would use the SRP. I Always use same on the pillar plastic as I use on rest of car, which for me, is usually Poorboys SSR (Super Swirl Remover) in whatever cutting compund is neccesary, depending in severity of swirls, i.e either SSR1, SSR2 or SSR 2.5 if really bad.
Not sure about SRP but Poorboys SSR polishes are fine to use on plastics such as the lights.
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Graham, drop me a line once you've got it and I've got some Meguairs 105 & 205 you can use on the pillars.
Cheers
Neil
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Graham, drop me a line once you've got it and I've got some Meguairs 105 & 205 you can use on the pillars.
Cheers
Neil
Youre a good man Neil, what was that stuff we tried on my wheels? Think i'll give that a go now its dryer too
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Meguiars 105 & 205, you shouldn't need them on the whole car unless your paint is shagged, which I doubt.
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Hey Y'all, (i'm an american convert now)
Just checked up on my order, its left the amazon place and is now with the courier so should be here by next week! Whilst on the good ol' USA Amazon site, I started thinking what else could be cheap and I probably could do with getting some more supplies.
I shall wait for the da to arrive first but:
http://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-G3502-Polishing-Power-Pack/dp/B009OBVXDO/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1433756111&sr=1-3&keywords=meguiars+da
against...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Meguiars-Action-Polishing-Power-POLISH/dp/B00CQZLLDC/ref=sr_1_34?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1433756209&sr=1-34&keywords=Meguiar%27s+da
now you may be able to find it cheaper elsewhere but these are both supposed to be meguiars amazon accounts, the price difference is staggering, plus if I order over $25 worth of stuff which is easily done, I get this:
http://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-G10464-Deep-Crystal-Wash/dp/B0009U7Y2I/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1433756293&sr=1-1&keywords=s+G10464+Deep+Crystal+Car+Wash+-&pebp=1433756293945&perid=129Y6YS0PTN7E3XM3NQA
for $3.48!!!
its £18.33 on UK amazon... http://www.amazon.co.uk/MeguiarS-G10464-Deep-Crystal-Wash/dp/B0009U7Y2I/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1433756325&sr=1-4&keywords=deep+crystal+wash
I'm a stingy git I know, but I did a mock order of these with a cutting compound and a few waxing pads and it came to £75 (including the £18 crystal) and even with fees and shipping my US order came to £43, saving £30 or if you wanna be anal 43%!
All this post needs is the star spangled banner playing in the background :smiley:
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And that's with the exchange rate being pretty poor at the moment!
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And that's with the exchange rate being pretty poor at the moment!
Yeah thats at $1=£0.68
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Has the star spangled DA drill thingy arrived from the land of the free yet Graham? :laugh:
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Has the star spangled DA drill thingy arrived from the land of the free yet Graham? :laugh:
Er yes it has, came yesterday and I'm 100% positive I posted on here with a photo... Think I have a rogue post somewhere booth...?
Anyway, was gonna try and have a go this weekend but its looking pretty miserable :(
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(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/20150612_174118_zps0cdbv4zs.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/20150612_174118_zps0cdbv4zs.jpg.html)
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Has the star spangled DA drill thingy arrived from the land of the free yet Graham? :laugh:
Er yes it has, came yesterday and I'm 100% positive I posted on here with a photo... Think I have a rogue post somewhere booth...?
Anyway, was gonna try and have a go this weekend but its looking pretty miserable :(
Weird! Haven't seen anything. Someone's probably wondering what the hell that random pic is doing in their thread. Or maybe you dreamt it. And if you did dream about posting detailing photos then you need help, 'cause you've crossed over to the dark side :wink:
Didn't realise it had a side handle, that's good from a stability/control aspect.
Yeah the weather is looking crap isn't it. Hopefully you'll get to try it out soon enough :smiley:
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Definitely not at the dreaming stage yet, I did it on my PC as well as its a pita to cut and paste from photo bucket on my phone. But never mind. Yeah its a bit smaller than I first imagined but I'm pleased with that so it will be easier to control
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I do detailing for a living. It's worth a shot for the price not sure where it will stand removing defects but will be quicker than using your hand. I use the rupes big foot if your feeling flush get 1.
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(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/C1207A99-79A2-4FD2-BA31-4DD542EAD5AF_zpsc7zyxfno.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C1207A99-79A2-4FD2-BA31-4DD542EAD5AF_zpsc7zyxfno.jpg.html)
Bought more stuff, going to stop now but all this for $62...still haven't found time to try it out yet, hoping for a good Saturday!
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Ok so finally, and I mean finally, apologies for taking so long to getting round to doing it, but I have finally given the ol' DA a whirl.
Start with one DA attachment and a drill that has seen better days:
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/503CBA5A-1345-4746-A438-1705AE06A936_zpsiojpyx7v.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/503CBA5A-1345-4746-A438-1705AE06A936_zpsiojpyx7v.jpg.html)
(excuse the mess I live on my own so, ya know :smiley:)
Once the car had been cleaned, using the Deep Crystal car wash, which by the way smell gorgeous, and dried with my wo-wo cloth (thank you Neil) I proceeded to firstly use the yellow pad and polish.
I have to say it was a lot easier to handle than I first thought, maybe more unruley with a powerful drill but with my cheapo model it was fine, the second handle made it a doddle.
Shortly after going over the whole car I proceeded to use the black pad and wax, before then using the compound one (red) to clean my windscreen which has been a mahoosive pita since apply that G2 crap or whatever its called, im sure there are plenty of horror stories on here about it but still I used it, never again tho. Have to say the windscreen is very clear now, but we will have to see how it gets on throughout the week.
Here's the end result:
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/212A8BCB-9FFA-4A87-A901-B674ED934469_zpsarxh3l5u.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/212A8BCB-9FFA-4A87-A901-B674ED934469_zpsarxh3l5u.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/3494D4F5-52CA-4515-A25A-7FB7E171B004_zpszggkojbd.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/3494D4F5-52CA-4515-A25A-7FB7E171B004_zpszggkojbd.jpg.html)
I wouldn't say showroom finish as its got some autobahn speed stone chips in it, but overall very shiny, shame I work on sites, so this will be ruined by breakfast time Monday :sad:
Pro's:
+More shine for less effort
+Compound on diamond cut wheels, ill let the results speak for themselves but this result alone makes it all worth it imo.
Before -
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/FB9EF8B4-D668-47F3-A98C-52A2FF9D5CC9_zps5o4lmycp.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/FB9EF8B4-D668-47F3-A98C-52A2FF9D5CC9_zps5o4lmycp.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/FCEB87BD-8152-4341-8B31-E8C54A202875_zpsqvrlntw0.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/FCEB87BD-8152-4341-8B31-E8C54A202875_zpsqvrlntw0.jpg.html)
After -
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/9797EF6D-BAA6-418B-B8A9-4CA0DC4EAB99_zpswec4f9ue.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/9797EF6D-BAA6-418B-B8A9-4CA0DC4EAB99_zpswec4f9ue.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/217AB004-B327-43E7-8B9D-832110B06CFB_zpsecczx733.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/217AB004-B327-43E7-8B9D-832110B06CFB_zpsecczx733.jpg.html)
(really makes a difference to the black, not as much in the silver)
Con's:
-Did it make it any quicker for me? No. It may have produced a better result but ive never spent so long on a car, im more of a quick wipe kinda guy and this has made me enter new shiny ocd territory.
-Cant really see where ive been, car is white I suppose this hasnt helped, but I may have used more product than I should just regoing over areas.
Overall though, very happy with my purchase, reckon ill make this a once in a month thing with quick wipes and waterless washes in between.
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Nice one Graham, looks great. The wheels have come up really well!
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All thanks to you mate, if it wasn't for you I never would've even tried it on them!
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Looks great mate, them wheels look good as new!
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Looks excellent Graham, well worth the time and the wheels have come up great :cool:
Sounds like your drill DA attachment thingy was worth it. You say it's going to be a '"once a month" thing? That's how it starts, before you know it, it'll be fortnightly, then weekly or if you're like Neil, twice weekly :laugh:
Must have been one of those 'Detailing Days' today, everybody's been at it!
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Ha never! I reckon my neighbours will have me committed. No one washes their car round here... I'm in the minority at least anyway
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Ha never! I reckon my neighbours will have me committed. No one washes their car round here... I'm in the minority at least anyway
You lead, others may follow...... :grin:
Who gives a toss what the neighbours think :evil:
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Well I did give one of them some black colour polish now my Leon has gone, but I haven't seen him use it yet lol his car looks shiny tho so maybe he's doing it while I'm at work
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Well I did give one of them some black colour polish now my Leon has gone, but I haven't seen him use it yet lol his car looks shiny tho so maybe he's doing it while I'm at work
At least he's still trying to maintain the illusion he's normal and not crossed over into the bad OCD place. You? Slippery slope I'm afraid, give into it, resistance is futile !!!