GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: The baron79 on 28 May 2015, 20:01

Title: Superchips bluefin
Post by: The baron79 on 28 May 2015, 20:01
Has anyone used the superchips bluefin on their GTI? Is it worth doing ?
Just looking at getting my 2011 car remapped , like the idea of been able to do it myself and the option of putting it back to standard ...

Any comments or advise would be welcome..

Thanks
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: mike. on 28 May 2015, 20:13
I have been running it for 5 years/50000 miles and have had no issues.

Really improves the midrange pull, sixth feels like fourth  :laugh:

Returning it to standard for servicing you really noticed the drop in torque.

Would highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: mustard on 28 May 2015, 20:23
Agree completely with Mike, a very worthwhile improvement, ran it on my Mk5 (although that was a diesel) for 4 years, and on my current GTI for 18 months, no issues at all, fuel economy has actually improved in normal driving and the performance is great, really smooth. There re other remaps that may give more power, but I am sold on Superchips, their customer service is good.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: chris1h on 28 May 2015, 21:36
how much is it? and what bhp gains do u get? :whistle:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: The baron79 on 28 May 2015, 22:42
They say 44ish bhp and 75 nm torque but may be more, or less I guess ? .. £400 ...
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: mustard on 29 May 2015, 07:30
I got mine for £349 from Eurocarparts, they had a deal on, so worth keeping an eye open.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: dubber36 on 29 May 2015, 08:57
I've had many cars with Superchips remaps, some Bluefin. Other tuners will give you bigger numbers, but somehow Superchips just feels right. It's like the standard car, turned up to 12.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: golfhappy on 29 May 2015, 09:44
I'm with everybody else on this Superchips good maps. Never had the bluefin but like the idea of putting the old map back in. I'll be whipped lashed for this but i foolishly over rid the Superchips map for a Revo stage 1 when they had a deal on and stuff your numbers and graphs....Superchips felt better!
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: joe6 on 29 May 2015, 11:15
The ECU counts each time you flash the ECU and will come up with VCDS so as long as you are happy with that go for it. It provides a useful gain without being OTT like some tuners.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: RocketRossUK on 29 May 2015, 15:03
My Superchips stage 1 only ran 221bhp on a roller I trust and the midrange in meeehh, average at best, but does feel standard, which is ......nice i guess.

My Revo ran 274bhp on the same roller and mid-range is brutal (if you want it). Number dont mean that much to me either, but you can defo tel the difference in 30-50bhp in the mid-range.

 It can feel standard when you want it, but if you want a bit of fun and let all hell brake loose then Revo is your map.

I cant knock Superchips, it is what is it. Its a nice linear average map which you can remove when you want.

Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: golfhappy on 29 May 2015, 19:19
My Superchips stage 1 only ran 221bhp on a roller I trust and the midrange in meeehh, average at best, but does feel standard, which is ......nice i guess.

My Revo ran 274bhp on the same roller and mid-range is brutal (if you want it). Number dont mean that much to me either, but you can defo tel the difference in 30-50bhp in the mid-range.

 It can feel standard when you want it, but if you want a bit of fun and let all hell brake loose then Revo is your map.

I cant knock Superchips, it is what is it. Its a nice linear average map which you can remove when you want.

That's why i got them to overwrite the Superchips map, the Revo figures were up on the Superchips and when the offer was on i went for it. As said before on my diesel it felt as if the maps were mixed up. I now have an even spread of power with the Revo map. Both good. The bluefin device handy, for taking into the dealers for servicing or if you sell the car. I take it if you could sell the bluefin with map on secondhand?
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: chris1h on 31 May 2015, 11:57
this is really making me think about it. Was all for getting a apr but at £600  :whistle: .... The car goes back to the dealers for servicing etc so blue fin might be a good idea. dont know what to do now.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: RocketRossUK on 31 May 2015, 12:16
This forum has gone crazy recently. There is no way on this earth you should choose Superchips over APR.

If you have the money get APR, or if you wait 4-6 weeks and wait for Revo's summer sale you can get one of thiers for cheap.

the ONLY plus side superchips has is that you can load and remove it your self, thats it!!. Plus me and few other have had problems when fitting and Cold air intake, it causes a flat spot in the rev range about 4k rpm, thats why i sent mine back and got a full refund after a month, google it mate.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: mustard on 31 May 2015, 17:29
There are pros and cons for each system, I have heard of people in the USA having burnt out ECUs with APR, and people having problems with REVO, none are perfect.

I don't have a CAI, but have replaced my filter with a Pipercross filter in the standard airbox, a REVO Stage 2 pipe (between the air box and the turbo) also fitted the Forge boost pipes/silicon hoses and Audi R8 coil packs/harder spark plugs. Haven't experienced any flat spots and it revs freely up to 4500. Never felt the need to go higher, in fact rarely go over 4000.

Superchips is probably the mildest remap, APR look good, but put off by people I know in the States, who have had problems, REVO seems a bit aggressive for my driving style.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Olifran on 31 May 2015, 19:22
My bluefin is for sale in the MK6 classifieds area. Was great on my MK6 DSG. They even tweeked the file for me after I complained the horsepower increase wasn't that good. The new file they sent was brilliant. Torque was around 280ish lbs ft and around 250-260hp. If they did one for the mk7 I would have bought one by now.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: RocketRossUK on 31 May 2015, 19:38
Never felt the need to go higher, in fact rarely go over 4000.

Are you talking about RPM? Surely not.....

The best way to get rid of carbon build up is by giving it the beans at least a couple of times a week. Thats what the redline is for, to stop just before it  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: mustard on 01 June 2015, 08:47
Never felt the need to go higher, in fact rarely go over 4000.

Are you talking about RPM? Surely not.....

The best way to get rid of carbon build up is by giving it the beans at least a couple of times a week. Thats what the redline is for, to stop just before it  :grin: :grin:

Too many years driving diesels. :undecided:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: RocketRossUK on 01 June 2015, 10:14
Never felt the need to go higher, in fact rarely go over 4000.

Are you talking about RPM? Surely not.....

The best way to get rid of carbon build up is by giving it the beans at least a couple of times a week. Thats what the redline is for, to stop just before it  :grin: :grin:

Too many years driving diesels. :undecided:

Ha Ha Ha, no wonder you think Superchips is so good  :grin: :grin:

Or well, at least someone will get a nice, un-abused example from you  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: dubber36 on 01 June 2015, 11:43
Never felt the need to go higher, in fact rarely go over 4000.

Are you talking about RPM? Surely not.....

The best way to get rid of carbon build up is by giving it the beans at least a couple of times a week. Thats what the redline is for, to stop just before it  :grin: :grin:

Too many years driving diesels. :undecided:

I totally get that. I was driving my Mk2 at the weekend and even on a spirited drive, I was changing up way before 5,000 rpm, even tho' it was just coming on song. A lot of it was to with in the back of my mind, the old girl is 25 years old and appreciates some mechanical sympathy.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: RocketRossUK on 01 June 2015, 12:25
Never felt the need to go higher, in fact rarely go over 4000.

Are you talking about RPM? Surely not.....

The best way to get rid of carbon build up is by giving it the beans at least a couple of times a week. Thats what the redline is for, to stop just before it  :grin: :grin:

Too many years driving diesels. :undecided:
I totally get that. I was driving my Mk2 at the weekend and even on a spirited drive, I was changing up way before 5,000 rpm, even tho' it was just coming on song. A lot of it was to with in the back of my mind, the old girl is 25 years old and appreciates some mechanical sympathy.

Yeah I can understand in the MK2, but there is no way you should be changing up that early in MK6, you are doing it an injustice, it loves to be driven hard. I often feel my car would thank me after a spirited drive, like "Cheers for giving me a pounding mate, I really enjoyed it"

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: The baron79 on 01 June 2015, 13:15
Thanks for all the replys .... not sure what to do now , looks like its Revo or Superchips ...maybe just get a new car which has more horse power as standard....

Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Olifran on 02 June 2015, 20:15
My bluefin is for sale in the MK6 classifieds area. Was great on my MK6 DSG. They even tweeked the file for me after I complained the horsepower increase wasn't that good. The new file they sent was brilliant. Torque was around 280ish lbs ft and around 250-260hp. If they did one for the mk7 I would have bought one by now.

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: andykram on 02 June 2015, 20:24
I had the Bluefin on mine before I sold it and was always very satisfied with it. It was definitely quicker (as you could tell when I took it off before the car got part exed) and it maintained my interest in the car. Mine was also not modified in any other way so I don't doubt I could have got a bit extra if I'd done the usual exhaust, air intake mods.
However, I also once got taken out in a fellow member's Revo'd Mk6 and this was clearly much, much more powerful and more aggressive. I suppose it's each to their own. I liked Simon's description of Bluefin turning the car up to 12 - it sort of suits its linear nature.
Sadly, my Bluefin is now sat under my desk in its box. waiting for a car to be used on!!
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 02 June 2015, 20:56
I'd like to get my car remapped, I was planning on getting carbon chip tuning to have a look at it, but they seem to have gone very quiet. No reply to emails and no forum presence for months. Are they still trading?
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Rhyso on 02 June 2015, 21:13
Carbon are still very much alive and kicking :afro:

When did you email them?  I speak to Nick often so can give him a nudge if you like  :wink:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 02 June 2015, 21:38
Thanks Rhyso,
I sent an email 2 days ago. I'm not in a rush, I just couldn't find anything new on the net about them so wasn't sure if still going. I'm seriously considering getting my mk6 gtd remapped, they seem like the best option for me.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Rhyso on 02 June 2015, 21:46
What year is your GTD on??

59/60 plates need ECU removal. 61 on should be via OBD  :smiley:

I can vouch for their GTD maps  :wink:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 02 June 2015, 21:56
It's a 12 plate. Just out of warranty so time to play!
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 02 June 2015, 22:04
How much should I be expecting to pay for a remap?
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Rhyso on 02 June 2015, 22:34
It's a 12 plate. Just out of warranty so time to play!

OBD job then  :cool:

Prices vary..... I charge anywhere from £150 upwards for OBD depending on the car and how far I have to travel.  The big companies start at £250+
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 02 June 2015, 22:51
That's not as much as I thought. Are the gtd remaps causing any reliability problems? Do the remaps get wiped if taken to a dealer for servicing or other work?
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Rhyso on 03 June 2015, 07:45
That's not as much as I thought. Are the gtd remaps causing any reliability problems? Do the remaps get wiped if taken to a dealer for servicing or other work?

Never had any trouble with one  :smiley:

That depends if the dealer applies any software updates. If its been through the dealer network during the early years then chances are any updates will have been applied already

If it goes into a dealer just tell them not to apply a software update  :smiley:  if they ignore you then they will have to foot the bill to put the map back on
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 03 June 2015, 16:26
Thanks for your input Rhyso, I'll look forward to carbon chip-tuning getting in touch. My mind is made up now!
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: chris1h on 04 June 2015, 21:49
anyone find out when revo map on sale pipe up please  :rolleyes: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: RocketRossUK on 05 June 2015, 00:08
anyone find out when revo map on sale pipe up please  :rolleyes: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :drool: :drool:

The revo summer sale will be on soon, usually end of June it think.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: chris1h on 13 June 2015, 21:59
anyone find out when revo map on sale pipe up please  :rolleyes: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :drool: :drool:

The revo summer sale will be on soon, usually end of June it think.

thanks mate!  apr have 20% off now too. who to go for if i get one though  :shocked:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: gaurav_aidasani on 15 June 2015, 10:00
Demon Tweeks (official bluefin stockist) offered me a Bluefin plug and play device with map and throwing in a KN air filter for 360
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: RocketRossUK on 15 June 2015, 14:41
Demon Tweeks (official bluefin stockist) offered me a Bluefin plug and play device with map and throwing in a KN air filter for 360

^^^^^Is this seen as a good deal?  :huh: :huh:
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 16 June 2015, 12:52
No reply to my emails from carbon chiptuning so will start to look for good deals elsewhere. A shame really.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: gaurav_aidasani on 16 June 2015, 22:26
Demon Tweeks (official bluefin stockist) offered me a Bluefin plug and play device with map and throwing in a KN air filter for 360

^^^^^Is this seen as a good deal?  :huh: :huh:

It's all relative really. I've only seen a sale on Bluefin once, which was down to 350 instead of 399. I know the K&N air filter is not comparable to a cold air intake, but the RRP on these is around £50, so it is something. IMO not bad value for someone who's looking for a map with the flexibility of turning it on and off whenever required.
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 17 June 2015, 10:01
I've just had an email from carbon, apologising for the lack of swift reply and an explanation of why. So I take it back, it looks like I will be getting a carbon remap after all!!
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Rhyso on 17 June 2015, 15:22
I've just had an email from carbon, apologising for the lack of swift reply and an explanation of why. So I take it back, it looks like I will be getting a carbon remap after all!!

 :cool:

You won't be disappointed
Title: Re: Superchips bluefin
Post by: Medic1281 on 17 June 2015, 19:10
I hope it is as good as everyone says. I've gone for the uflash module so is similar to a blufin module i think. Hopefully be here by friday! :smiley: