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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: remlapeel on 07 April 2015, 08:22
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With my new R on its way I have been looking at the differences in spec compared to my GTI, one of the options chosen with the R is dynaudio. I didn't tick this box with my GTI because I found the standard system on the mk6 golf to be really good. I did noticed the standard system on the mk7 is terrible and I hoping the dynaudio will be a decent improvement.
Anyone tried/had both? What do you think?
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Its been well discussed on this very forum. :laugh:
My view is it is completely subjective.
Half will say its a waste of money the other half will say its great.
I never had it on my Mk6 but ticked it on the Mk7.
I'm no audiophile but it sounds good to me.
One of the things I look for is, is it still clear at volume and not distorting and for me it carries this out very well.
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Whilst I've not listened to a non Dynaudio car, I can comment on mine, coming from my previous car which had £1200 of head unit/amps/speakers in (all Kenwood).
Even without listening to it, I specced the Dynaudio for the reason above and I haven't been disappointed. It all depends what you want out of your system in the car but it goes...
a. Plenty loud enough
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b. Very good clarity
Some have moaned that the subwoofer isn't strong enough - it all depends what you expect, after all it's only a (roughly) 6" speaker in a small plastic enclosure. It's never going to shake the ground but it does fill in the lows rather well.
My only current criticism is that I am unsure as to whether the sub bass is filtered from the component speakers (to give them a much easier time) as I would do that to them anyway. I just need to do a bit of research.
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There's a What Hi-Fi review of the system here (http://www.whathifi.com/news/dynaudio-excite-sound-system-review-vw-golf-mk-7) which gives it a good write up although I'm never convinced these things aren't just rehashed press releases. FWIW I had it on my Mk6 and have ordered it on my Mk7 as I really liked the sound from my Mk6.
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Another thumbs up from me. Coming from a MK5 Golf (with 10 speakers as standard) and a Scirocco I always found the standard systems OKish, but there was never much bass. I don't mean bass that shakes your filling out, (I am getting on a bit you see), but I still like to listen to good music quite loud, and was always a bit disappointed in the standard speakers (the MK5 Golf was the worst).
The first thing I specced was Dynaudio and very pleased I am with it. Like Gnasher said, the sub isn't massively powerful and on disconnecting it, there was still plenty of bass meaning that I think the door bass drivers carry a lot of the load, but it does fill in a few of the lows, but no substitute for a dedicated bass speaker in a custom enclosure that will rattle the glass, if that's your thing (it's not mine) :grin:
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I had Dynaudio on my mk 6 & 7 GTI's - it's excellent, especially for the money. I don't have it on my R, and I did miss it for a while but then got used to the standard system (which is pretty decent I have to say). However, my missus has Dynaudio on her GTD and having spent a while driving that car over the weekend, when I got back in mine today it sounds awfully tinny and underpowered.
So the moral of the story is: the standard system is decent, but the Dynaudio is great - just avoid cars with Dynaudio if you don't go for it and you'll be fine :laugh:
PS If it had been available on the R when I got mine I would have ticked the box :smiley:
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Another thumbs up from me. Coming from a MK5 Golf (with 10 speakers as standard) and a Scirocco I always found the standard systems OKish, but there was never much bass. I don't mean bass that shakes your filling out, (I am getting on a bit you see), but I still like to listen to good music quite loud, and was always a bit disappointed in the standard speakers (the MK5 Golf was the worst).
The first thing I specced was Dynaudio and very pleased I am with it. Like Gnasher said, the sub isn't massively powerful and on disconnecting it, there was still plenty of bass meaning that I think the door bass drivers carry a lot of the load, but it does fill in a few of the lows, but no substitute for a dedicated bass speaker in a custom enclosure that will rattle the glass, if that's your thing (it's not mine) :grin:
That was the first step in my future research.
I am actually quite tempted to add some sort of passive filtering to the mids and then see if I need to upgrade the sub (without going too mad). Although Mrs Gnasher will at that point kill me as I justified getting the Dynaudio on the fact it wouldn't need upgrading :embarrassed:
It might get expensive though as I would want to attempt to keep the existing adjustable floor, meaning (on top of the actual sub/amp install I'd need to get a 2nd floor to cut down and get the moulding that it sits on too.
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My view is that Dynaudio is very good at high volumes. However, on a day to day basis I don't miss it one bit as I think the standard system is very good. Personally, I wouldn't therefore spec it, but if you listen to it and think it's worth it, nothing else really matters.
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Getting the Dynaudio was a deal maker for me. I cancelled my first R order whilst it was in transit to the UK (also the Dealer was not o my liking) and re-ordered with Dynaudio from my local Dealership.
I have heard the standard system and compared it with the Dynaudio. To these ears there is no comparison especially if one listens to Classical Symphonic Music and Opera. It's also great with Pop Music.
The trouble with the standard system is that the tweeters are of the paper cone variety and break up very easily at higher listening levels. Plus they produce no detail. Also, the mid-bass units distort as they need to produce bass and they struggle to do this. But as a standard system, it is pretty good.
The Dynaudio Sound System is incredibly good value for money. In order to replicate this one would have to shell out thousands of pounds. The system comes with excellent silk dome tweeters and the mid range units have massive magnets and are very low distortion. Plus, one gets a dedicated sub-woofer which makes the overall sound much more musical.
ETTO.
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Having Dynaudio in my current Mk6 and having also had a Mk6 without it, it's the first thing I would spec. I waited to order my Mk7 R until it thankfully it became available. Plus the sound justs gets better and better over time.
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Haven't really missed it, thought I would have but no.
I had it on the rocco and mk6 and did like it but really needed to be off CD to get the true benefit as it showed up the quality of MP3
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The Dynaudio is great but both the DNS and DNS Pro units are pants. The damned CD Drive or DVD Drive is in the Glove Box. No how idiotic is that? I would be glad to be without the proximity sensor and have a CD/DVD drive built into these units. Really p!ssed off with this. Will be installing a couple of CD Changers in the car. CD sounds best, the other formats sound terrible.
Heard the difference between the DVD drive for the DNS Pro and the CD drive for the DNS whilst playing a CD. CD drive sounded possibly a bit better.
Rant over. Now where is that Scotch?
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Why not try some FLAC files? NavPro supports them.
After discovering it supported them I gave it a go. I can't tell the difference, but maybe with dynaudio and something other than the noise I like to listen to it might make a difference?
TBH, I don't blame VW for moving the disc unit, hardly anyone uses CD's any more - I wouldn't have put it past them to actually not have it at all.
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Why not try some FLAC files? NavPro supports them.
After discovering it supported them I gave it a go. I can't tell the difference, but maybe with dynaudio and something other than the noise I like to listen to it might make a difference?
TBH, I don't blame VW for moving the disc unit, hardly anyone uses CD's any more - I wouldn't have put it past them to actually not have it at all.
I am a flat earther. It was bad enough moving from Analogue to Digital. If only I could play my vinyl in the car!
About FLAC:
http://www.linnrecords.com/linn-download-quality-and-file-type.aspx
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I know what FLAC is technically and I fully understand that many swear by it.... *if* you are an audiophile it probably is the antidote to your desire for spinning plastic ;-)
You do know that you could have ordered this instead of NavPro?
(http://www.barryboys.co.uk/photos22/c173553c5202.jpg)
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I know what FLAC is technically and I fully understand that many swear by it.... *if* you are an audiophile it probably is the antidote to your desire for spinning plastic ;-)
You do know that you could have ordered this instead of NavPro?
(http://www.barryboys.co.uk/photos22/c173553c5202.jpg)
LOL! If only it was possible. BTW, I have the DNS and not the DNS Pro.
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The Dynaudio is great but both the DNS and DNS Pro units are pants. The damned CD Drive or DVD Drive is in the Glove Box. No how idiotic is that? I would be glad to be without the proximity sensor and have a CD/DVD drive built into these units. Really p!ssed off with this. Will be installing a couple of CD Changers in the car. CD sounds best, the other formats sound terrible.
Heard the difference between the DVD drive for the DNS Pro and the CD drive for the DNS whilst playing a CD. CD drive sounded possibly a bit better.
Rant over. Now where is that Scotch?
Your ears are clearly better than mine as I can't tell the difference between a CD or mp3 - sounds great even on the standard system, sounds even better on Dynaudio. Mind you, not that I listen to CD's as its not 1999 :laugh:
Also, I've had both the DNS and now the DNS Pro and to call them pants is a little harsh IMO - both systems are very good - yes, they have their flaws (touch screen is annoying if you go over a bump for eg) but so do the BMW & Audi equivalents which are far from perfect also. Screen is very clear, system can be operated by a child its that simple, the Sat Nav is excellent and its pretty slick tbh :smiley:
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The Dynaudio is great but both the DNS and DNS Pro units are pants. The damned CD Drive or DVD Drive is in the Glove Box. No how idiotic is that? I would be glad to be without the proximity sensor and have a CD/DVD drive built into these units. Really p!ssed off with this. Will be installing a couple of CD Changers in the car. CD sounds best, the other formats sound terrible.
Heard the difference between the DVD drive for the DNS Pro and the CD drive for the DNS whilst playing a CD. CD drive sounded possibly a bit better.
Rant over. Now where is that Scotch?
Your ears are clearly better than mine as I can't tell the difference between a CD or mp3 - sounds great even on the standard system, sounds even better on Dynaudio. Mind you, not that I listen to CD's as its not 1999 :laugh:
Also, I've had both the DNS and now the DNS Pro and to call them pants is a little harsh IMO - both systems are very good - yes, they have their flaws (touch screen is annoying if you go over a bump for eg) but so do the BMW & Audi equivalents which are far from perfect also. Screen is very clear, system can be operated by a child its that simple, the Sat Nav is excellent and its pretty slick tbh :smiley:
I agree, a bit of an excessive reaction on my part calling them pants.
Was a bit narked seeing that a Tech Pack, Car-Net and 6.5" Screen were going to be available and that I missed out. Have gotten over it. :wink:
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I agree, a bit of an excessive reaction on my part calling them pants.
Was a bit narked seeing that a Tech Pack, Car-Net and 6.5" Screen were going to be available and that I missed out. Have gotten over it. :wink:
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Ah, such is life! I remember when I got my mk 6 GTI, a few months later they completely changed the rear lights (which were much better) - wound me up for months lol! I even got annoyed when they changed the GTI PP to a red badge (having had just the silver ones), so much so that I went and paid for them to be changed :grin:
To be honest, I don't think you'll notice the extra 0.7 inches anyway. Size doesn't matter :wink: :laugh:
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I agree, a bit of an excessive reaction on my part calling them pants.
Was a bit narked seeing that a Tech Pack, Car-Net and 6.5" Screen were going to be available and that I missed out. Have gotten over it. :wink:
:grin:
Ah, such is life! I remember when I got my mk 6 GTI, a few months later they completely changed the rear lights (which were much better) - wound me up for months lol! I even got annoyed when they changed the GTI PP to a red badge (having had just the silver ones), so much so that I went and paid for them to be changed :grin:
To be honest, I don't think you'll notice the extra 0.7 inches anyway. Size doesn't matter :wink: :laugh:
LOL. I'll keep telling myself that! :grin:
Same thing happened to me re the tail lights with the Mk6 GTI.