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Title: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 10 January 2015, 01:07
Hi,

Bit of a weird one this. I ordered led tail lamps from xenonz, tried to fit today however I've got this problem:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p69/P11-144/turbo%20keychain/20150109_215126_zpsbgvhjv9_edit_1420851260249_zpsrfvzhyew.jpg)
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p69/P11-144/turbo%20keychain/20150109_215117_zpss9u6wc4_edit_1420851113970_zpstjg00edw.jpg)
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p69/P11-144/turbo%20keychain/20150109_215120_zpsvdl7bkg_edit_1420851227442_zpsdmwefroc.jpg)

I've seen many guides and videos of people fitting aftermarket tail lamps to their golf however none of those had this bracket / fin that I have.

Anyone else encounter this?
I have a 59plate  golf gti.

Thanks
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: dubber36 on 10 January 2015, 08:28
Have you been sent cabrio lights by mistake?
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 10 January 2015, 09:36
Hey dubber,
I don't think that's an issue as the videos on YouTube are hatches like mine.
I'll ask the supplier though, thanks.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 10 January 2015, 15:17
Supplier doesn't make cabrio versions.

Might have to take an angle grinder to it as a worse case scenario, but I'd rather not.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: mike. on 10 January 2015, 16:15
Mine looks like yours after someone has already taken an angle grinder to it   :grin:
Mine is March 2010.

(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/lights/rearLight.jpg)
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Rgdogg on 10 January 2015, 17:30
I have a 2009 gti and have upgraded to led lights, mine does not have that extra bit of metal that yours seems to have! Might have to get it removed, can't see the point in them.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 10 January 2015, 18:53
Thanks for the replies guys. Makes me feel slightly more better knowing others have cut them.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: mike. on 10 January 2015, 19:27
Mine wasn't cut, that's the way it came from the factory.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Jimble on 12 January 2015, 08:17
+1, my 2010 never had that either. :huh:
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Adycakes on 12 January 2015, 17:56
So do all 59 Plate GTi's have this? Or is this a one off?

This was the next mod I was going to do, but looks like I may have to cut bits off my car!!
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Snoopy on 12 January 2015, 18:31
Never seen them on one before.
Mines a Feb 2010 build and does not have them.
Im not even sure how the ordinary lights fitted with them there.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: mwad gti on 12 January 2015, 20:06
So do all 59 Plate GTi's have this? Or is this a one off?

This was the next mod I was going to do, but looks like I may have to cut bits off my car!!
I'd think twice  :shocked:
Does seem weird.....
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 12 January 2015, 22:31
So do all 59 Plate GTi's have this? Or is this a one off?

This was the next mod I was going to do, but looks like I may have to cut bits off my car!!

Not sure, this is the first xenonz uk has seen.
I'm taking an angle grinder to it on the weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 12 January 2015, 22:34
Never seen them on one before.
Mines a Feb 2010 build and does not have them.
Im not even sure how the ordinary lights fitted with them there.

I'll post comparable pics of the rear housing for the lights. With the standard lights there's plenty of space for that fin, however the LEDs have more at the back.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Adycakes on 13 January 2015, 13:14
So do all 59 Plate GTi's have this? Or is this a one off?

This was the next mod I was going to do, but looks like I may have to cut bits off my car!!

Not sure, this is the first xenonz uk has seen.
I'm taking an angle grinder to it on the weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.

Cool, thanks for that.

How easy is it to get the lights out, might take a look this weekend before purchasing the lights.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: dubber36 on 13 January 2015, 14:34
How easy is it to get the lights out, might take a look this weekend before purchasing the lights.

Easy peasy. Pull the carpet trim away in the boot and you'll see a plastic wing nut. Just undo that, slide the lamp out and unplug the connector. To get to the fixings on the inner lights, just pop the cover off the tailgate trim panel to expose them.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Adycakes on 13 January 2015, 17:45
How easy is it to get the lights out, might take a look this weekend before purchasing the lights.

Easy peasy. Pull the carpet trim away in the boot and you'll see a plastic wing nut. Just undo that, slide the lamp out and unplug the connector. To get to the fixings on the inner lights, just pop the cover off the tailgate trim panel to expose them.

Thanks! I would take a look tonight but it's peeing it down here!
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: SRGTD on 13 January 2015, 19:12
So do all 59 Plate GTi's have this? Or is this a one off?

This was the next mod I was going to do, but looks like I may have to cut bits off my car!!

Not sure, this is the first xenonz uk has seen.
I'm taking an angle grinder to it on the weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.

Vertex, do you have the same fin or bracket in the area behind the right hand rear light unit? If not, and if no one else has this, is it possible that your car may have had a repair to the left had rear corner, and a replacement aftermarket, non-VW panel used for the repair? Is there a difference in the quality of the paint in this hidden area on the left hand side compared to the area behind the right hand light cluster, which might be a tell tale sign of a repair?
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: andygo on 13 January 2015, 20:49
The extra metal is because your car is white. The white cars were made as prototypes and have all sorts of useless extra bits of metal added here and there. The extra weight is just one of the reasons white GTi's are slow...



:)
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 13 January 2015, 21:52
So do all 59 Plate GTi's have this? Or is this a one off?

This was the next mod I was going to do, but looks like I may have to cut bits off my car!!

Not sure, this is the first xenonz uk has seen.
I'm taking an angle grinder to it on the weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.

Vertex, do you have the same fin or bracket in the area behind the right hand rear light unit? If not, and if no one else has this, is it possible that your car may have had a repair to the left had rear corner, and a replacement aftermarket, non-VW panel used for the repair? Is there a difference in the quality of the paint in this hidden area on the left hand side compared to the area behind the right hand light cluster, which might be a tell tale sign of a repair?

The car definitely hasn't been in a crash to that extent, (I'm very particular and can spot a repair very easily). The paint is same inside and out. (He says nervously hoping it wasn't in a crash. VW aren't allowed to sell cars like that are they?!)
Not sure on the other side as I started on the left so ended it soon as I saw the fin.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: dubber36 on 13 January 2015, 22:01
Looking at the joint between to two panels, it all appears to be original and not being repaired. That extra lug with the hole in it is probably what that section of the shell is hung from when transported along the production line.

What is odd is that the original light fits with it still in place, but the LED's don't.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: vertex on 13 January 2015, 22:06
The extra metal is because your car is white. The white cars were made as prototypes and have all sorts of useless extra bits of metal added here and there. The extra weight is just one of the reasons white GTi's are slow...



:)

Really?!?? I feel so special now  :laugh:

Looking at the joint between to two panels, it all appears to be original and not being repaired. That extra lug with the hole in it is probably what that section of the shell is hung from when transported along the production line.

What is odd is that the original light fits with it still in place, but the LED's don't.

You'll see once I do the comparable pics why they don't fit. The LEDs have a lot more going on at the back of the cluster whereas the standards take up half the space.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: dubber36 on 13 January 2015, 22:13
Maybe they cut them off all MY2010 and onward shells in case they were destined to be GTI/D's?
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: gaurav_aidasani on 20 January 2015, 22:00
Did you manage to fit them?

Just wondering how the LEDs are as I am planning to get some from Xenonz too.
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Adycakes on 26 January 2015, 10:31
This thread got me curious so I popped mine out this weekend to take a look, especially as this was the next upgrade I was going to do.

Anyway here is my 59 Plate GTi with one light removed.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/1zd4tv6.jpg)

Excuse the dirt, car is due a clean, just haven't got round to it yet!

But it looks like I'll be fine to do the upgrade. :)
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: dubber36 on 26 January 2015, 12:43

(http://i62.tinypic.com/1zd4tv6.jpg)


Is that overspray I see on that bottom light clip?
Title: Re: LED rears won't physically fit my car!
Post by: Adycakes on 26 January 2015, 14:45

(http://i62.tinypic.com/1zd4tv6.jpg)


Is that overspray I see on that bottom light clip?

Possible, when I got the car from VW there was some small pant repairs I wanted doing & I think the back bumper was one.