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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: caprigreen on 12 November 2014, 09:38
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My GTI PP is at the dealers waiting its PDI. I hope to collect next week. As the dealer is 300 miles away I wanted to know if there is anything I should be issued with and check before I leave. As i Have had 12% discount I dont think the dealer is going to be giving much away :smiley:
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JCB Medway kent I take it
Ask for the first aid kit/warning triangle (gave it to me without asking) and a bottle of oil (gave me with no probs).
Also raid their fridge for drinks for the way home! (Dealer actually gave me an armful of drinks without asking knowing I had a 600 mile drive home).
Nothing like champers or flowers but would rather the discount!
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Give me a wave as you go past J29 M5!
Looks like JCB are the dealer to beat them all when it comes to deals then.
It'll be a fun drive home for you! :cool:
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My car was parked at the front door no showroom/car under the cover for me :grin:
Sent on my way but scrounged a set of rubber mats for the winter and a GTi mug.
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JCB Medway kent I take it
Ask for the first aid kit/warning triangle (gave it to me without asking) and a bottle of oil (gave me with no probs).
Also raid their fridge for drinks for the way home! (Dealer actually gave me an armful of drinks without asking knowing I had a 600 mile drive home).
Nothing like champers or flowers but would rather the discount!
Yes it is JCB Medway, just spoken to the salesman James who says, no First aid kit & triangle an no oil, Asked about rubber mats but have to pay full price. He says they dont give anything away at their dealership due to the discount. Oh well cant be greedy :smiley:
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Its easier to say no on the phone than eye to eye! or maybe Peter D is just very persuasive....
The main thing (apart from ensuring its actually the car you ordered) is to make sure they removed the transport pucks from the suspension....
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Its easier to say no on the phone than eye to eye! or maybe Peter D is just very persuasive....
The main thing (apart from ensuring its actually the car you ordered) is to make sure they removed the transport pucks from the suspension....
I did not want to sound like a spoilt child ( well thinking about it.... I might of anyway) by saying other people were given stuff, why not me .
I will not get to the dealer until about 4pm so need some light to inspect the car. I will ask them to put my "discounted" car in the posh seats inside the dealership; a reasonable request ?
Good point re transport pucks
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They do not have an inside handover area as far as I could see. Showroom only holds about 8 cars (closely)
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That is where mine came from and it was also just parked in the car park :rolleyes: But for that discount it could be sitting with the wrappers on for all I cared.
I doubt they would move a car out the showroom to put that in but worth a try.
To the OP I'd stay overnight in London and then travel through in the morning so its light. I certainly wouldn't pick a car up in the dark 300 miles away from home.
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That is where mine came from and it was also just parked in the car park :rolleyes: But for that discount it could be sitting with the wrappers on for all I cared.
I doubt they would move a car out the showroom to put that in but worth a try.
To the OP I'd stay overnight in London and then travel through in the morning so its light. I certainly wouldn't pick a car up in the dark 300 miles away from home.
I quite agree . Just looking now to see if I can change my plans (need to get Sunday off work) and stay overnight sunday as have family near Reading. Can then get the train in and pick up Monday morning/lunch.
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We jumped the 5am train from Glasgow to go and pick mine up.
The salesman picked us up from the train station.
The journey down was like being a kid on Xmas eve :grin:
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I got mine from medway. Great no nonsense service. He sold 20 in one month so he's not shopping at aldi anymore.
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Looks like JCB are the dealer to beat them all when it comes to deals then.
Quite a bit of difference in broker quotes for my specced R.
Cheapest - VW Swindon (Orangewheels) @ £500 cheaper than DTD, and £1,546 cheaper than JCB Medway (Carwow) :shocked: Ironic as I live only 24 miles from JCB :rolleyes:
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Quite a bit of difference in broker quotes for my specced R.
Cheapest - VW Swindon (Orangewheels) @ £500 cheaper than DTD, and £1,546 cheaper than JCB Medway (Carwow) :shocked: Ironic as I live only 24 miles from JCB :rolleyes:
Remember you can barter with them on carwow. I managed to get a dealer down by another £1000 after a few messages back and forth.
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Quite a bit of difference in broker quotes for my specced R.
Cheapest - VW Swindon (Orangewheels) @ £500 cheaper than DTD, and £1,546 cheaper than JCB Medway (Carwow) :shocked: Ironic as I live only 24 miles from JCB :rolleyes:
Remember you can barter with them on carwow. I managed to get a dealer down by another £1000 after a few messages back and forth.
Yep, that's the plan :smiley:
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What were DtD quoting percentage wise? Its always been around 12% off a GTD or GTI?
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Looks like JCB are the dealer to beat them all when it comes to deals then.
Quite a bit of difference in broker quotes for my specced R.
Cheapest - VW Swindon (Orangewheels) @ £500 cheaper than DTD, and £1,546 cheaper than JCB Medway (Carwow) :shocked: Ironic as I live only 24 miles from JCB :rolleyes:
It's interesting the variation between models and brokers. I guess different dealers work on different prices on different days!!! Maybe it depends on what mood the boss is in?!!!
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What were DtD quoting percentage wise? Its always been around 12% off a GTD or GTI?
On a fairly well specced R:
DTD @ 10.5%. This includes £750 you need to add on if not taking out a PCP deal (I'm cash buyer). With the extra £750 discount it would be 12.5%. Mind you the price differs every day!!
Orangewheels @ 12.5%
Carwow - dealer quotes differ but most around the DTD 10% figure, with one offering a measly 8%, and interestingly that was JCB Medway who do many of the DTD at 10-12% :huh:
It's interesting the variation between models and brokers. I guess different dealers work on different prices on different days!!! Maybe it depends on what mood the boss is in?!!!
Seems that way. Today's DTD price is £25 more than yesterday :grin:
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Mme B, are you selling your mk6 privately out of interest, or chopping it in as part of the deal therefore making the up front discounts a bit more fluid due to looking at 'cost to change' figures?
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Mme B, are you selling your mk6 privately out of interest, or chopping it in as part of the deal therefore making the up front discounts a bit more fluid due to looking at 'cost to change' figures?
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I wasn't planning to sell privately. Most spending that kind of money will no doubt prefer the assurance of VW Approved Used Car warranty and after sales service etc.
So yep, 'cost to change'. Obviously I have a budget ceiling and it doesn't really matter how it is arrived at discount v px wise, as long as it comes in inline with my figure.
That said, some brokers like DTD don't do px so may have to off load it by some other means.
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I'd guessed it must be something along those lines, the same for most buyers with relatively high value newish cars.
All part of the fun but a lot of legwork thrashing out deals.
Broadspeed used to advertise proper part ex facilities, do they compare?
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I'd forgotten about Broadspeed. Just done a quote, £336 dearer than DTD and £800 more than OW (includes their £199 fee if you buy). They do px though.
Yes, quite a bit of legwork involved. Very by sy workwise at the moment to give it my undivided attention but putting the feelers out.
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The offers they give you on your car may muddy the waters a bit in the end.
Those that on paper offer the best discount will likely offer the worst part ex prices but it's still down how much less they offer you and all the cost to change figures.
So yes, with work life, home life and general time constraints it's going to be time consuming getting the best prices. Offer monkeyhanger a Mars Bar to sniff out the deals for you when he's got his calculator to hand!!!
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The offers they give you on your car may muddy the waters a bit in the end.
Those that on paper offer the best discount will likely offer the worst part ex prices but it's still down how much less they offer you and all the cost to change figures.
So yes, with work life, home life and general time constraints it's going to be time consuming getting the best prices. Offer monkeyhanger a Mars Bar to sniff out the deals for you when he's got his calculator to hand!!!
Yep, great discount = crap px. Cost to change is the key.
I'm afraid Monkeyhanger's finance posts have the same effect on me as detailing threads have on you (no offence MH) :wink:
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Booth: No offense taken, it's a little less boring making those threads than doing what I should be doing at work. :grin:
The boring stuff :whistle::
I generally find that around the costs of a high end Golf/Scirocco that the dealer looks to make at least £4k between the 2 cars (if you've got something comparable in p/x). If you're getting 12% off a GTI/GTD/R then there's only a grand in it for them (more if they've smashed their volume bonuses and customer satisfaction bonuses), which isn't enough unless they're selling in volume (Broker) or expecting to make £3k off your p/x. If you have no p/x then go broker, if you do then your local dealer should be able to provide the same cost to change as they'll likely give you less discount on the new one, but more on the p/x than a broker dealership.
I'm getting £18500 for my 18month old (it will be in March) GTD because i'm getting a £3600 discount on the R, it'll be on the forecourt for £22500 or thereabouts, and expecting to knock a grand off to a haggler, it'd be up for a grand more than that prior to the 15 plate change. I'll chance my arm trying to sell privately for £21k at the end of Jan, willing to accept £20500 for the inconvenience of having to use the Metro and Taxis for a month. It may not sell - it's a lot of money to a private buyer that isn't buying from a dealership.
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Booth: No offense taken, it's a little less boring making those threads than doing what I should be doing at work. :grin:
The boring stuff :whistle::
I generally find that around the costs of a high end Golf/Scirocco that the dealer looks to make at least £4k between the 2 cars (if you've got something comparable in p/x). If you're getting 12% off a GTI/GTD/R then there's only a grand in it for them (more if they've smashed their volume bonuses and customer satisfaction bonuses), which isn't enough unless they're selling in volume (Broker) or expecting to make £3k off your p/x. If you have no p/x then go broker, if you do then your local dealer should be able to provide the same cost to change as they'll likely give you less discount on the new one, but more on the p/x than a broker dealership.
I'm getting £18500 for my 18month old (it will be in March) GTD because i'm getting a £3600 discount on the R, it'll be on the forecourt for £22500 or thereabouts, and expecting to knock a grand off to a haggler, it'd be up for a grand more than that prior to the 15 plate change. I'll chance my arm trying to sell privately for £21k at the end of Jan, willing to accept £20500 for the inconvenience of having to use the Metro and Taxis for a month. It may not sell - it's a lot of money to a private buyer that isn't buying from a dealership.
Zzzzzz.....only joking :grin:
You obviously don't know my local dealer. "Crap discount, Crap p/x, guaranteed" is their unofficial motto :wink:
Your figures are much as I was factoring. I will most likely p/x my mk6, can't be without a car at all as needed daily for work site visits, school run etc. Will be talking to a few broker dealers next week, so see who comes closest to my acceptable figure with the combined new car discount/current car p/x.
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Booth11: If I were you, i'd trying to get more off the new one and have a bankable low p/x as a back-up plan. Try to get the car sold for a few £k over p/x a month before the new one arrives and do a cheap month's rental and still be £1500 up. That's the plan for me, there are swings and roundabouts between our 2 situations - I have 18 months warranty and a few unused services to entice people to make a saving vs going to the dealerships (it's new enough for few or no MK7 GTDs to be available outside the dealership network).
On the other hand, it's a lot of money for people to spend without a dealership. Yours should be more accessible (private loan or cash) to a lot more people.
Low/reasonable p/x price I generally take to be 80% of sticker price on the used forecourt - what are MK6 examples with some expensive options going for at your local dealership's forecourt?
Selling privately is such a ball-ache (so many tyre kickers), so i'll give it a whirl, but won't be investing too much of my own money into it - advertising at the forums and Pistonheads, pay a tenner to ebay too.
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I will not even bother to try to sell privately again (after the least experience). These cars are just too expensive for private buyers to shell out for without the dealer comfort/support/financing.
My current GTD will be sold to the dealer that makes the best bid on it - may run a cheap rental car for a few weeks/month before the next car arrives. That will come via 'Drive the Deal' as did the current one.
MH - Not all dealers are looking to make 4k per transaction. If they know they can shift your car for 22k straight away they will give you 20k for it - thats when having the correct spec/colour/options really counts as such cars are close to being bankable currency....
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Picked up my white gti pp today drove it back from Gillingham to Cornwall . It rained most the way but loved every minute , drive great, delighted :grin: :grin:
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On a fairly well specced R:
DTD @ 10.5%. This includes £750 you need to add on if not taking out a PCP deal (I'm cash buyer). With the extra £750 discount it would be 12.5%. Mind you the price differs every day!!
I was led to believe from the Audi forum that if you took advantage of their contribution i.e. the £750 on a PCP, as long as you paid it off with cash in x amount of days you then paid no interest and still get the advantage of the £750 contribution.
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On a fairly well specced R:
DTD @ 10.5%. This includes £750 you need to add on if not taking out a PCP deal (I'm cash buyer). With the extra £750 discount it would be 12.5%. Mind you the price differs every day!!
I was led to believe from the Audi forum that if you took advantage of their contribution i.e. the £750 on a PCP, as long as you paid it off with cash in x amount of days you then paid no interest and still get the advantage of the £750 contribution.
Actually, now you mention that does ring a bell from somewhere. Thanks for that info, something else to check out and consider :smiley:
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I am sure that the £750 contribution is only if you are buying a GTI,there is no contribution on an R.
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I am sure that the £750 contribution is only if you are buying a GTI,there is no contribution on an R.
The £750 PCP contribution applies to the R too. It's in the small print at the bottom of the webpage.
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Interesting,it may be worth me taking out finance then and paying it off in full to get the contribution.Thanks for that info I'll look into it.
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Picked up my white gti pp today drove it back from Gillingham to Cornwall . It rained most the way but loved every minute , drive great, delighted :grin: :grin:
How did your handover go? Keen to know as I am collecting my car from the same dealer in January.
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I am sure that the £750 contribution is only if you are buying a GTI,there is no contribution on an R.
The £750 PCP contribution applies to the R too. It's in the small print at the bottom of the webpage.
Are you sure? When you go to the overview page for GTI/GTD/R and specifically into finance within overview, there's a table with all 3 cars, with each row highlighting a different component of the overall finance cost, and in the deposit contribution row, only the GTI's column has £750 within it, the GTD and R columns are blank for that row.
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Picked up my white gti pp today drove it back from Gillingham to Cornwall . It rained most the way but loved every minute , drive great, delighted :grin: :grin:
How did your handover go? Keen to know as I am collecting my car from the same dealer in January.
I got the train from Cornwall , did the trip in two parts as have family near Reading. Went without a hitch , even the trains we on time. I was picked up from the Station (James Callaway) and then spent about an hour doing the paperwork and running through the car. I did not get any freebies but was happy with £3300 discount :smiley: Drove the 300 miles back to Cornwall took me just over 6 hours. They sell a lot of cars but very efficient , would recomend. Hope all goes well in January. :smiley:
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I am sure that the £750 contribution is only if you are buying a GTI,there is no contribution on an R.
The £750 PCP contribution applies to the R too. It's in the small print at the bottom of the webpage.
Are you sure? When you go to the overview page for GTI/GTD/R and specifically into finance within overview, there's a table with all 3 cars, with each row highlighting a different component of the overall finance cost, and in the deposit contribution row, only the GTI's column has £750 within it, the GTD and R columns are blank for that row.
My apologies, you are right AndyG and MH, the R is excluded. I must be losing it :embarrassed:
I've spent the last few days at work projecting costs for the next 17 years for all the sites in my service (lots), adding up seemingly endless figures (correctly, lol) and it's finally got to me!! Number and word blindness. I'm going to lie down in a darkened room now :sad:
Upside is it means the DTD discount is full 12% on the R.