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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: JB GTI on 09 November 2014, 10:07
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All this talk of people looking at moving to an R got me thinking too. So yesterday I popped over to my dealers for "a chat" :wink:
Turns out if you factory ordered now and spec Dynaudio as it is now available to order (but not being accepted by the factory for another 2 weeks) you are looking at a 31 week wait for your car!!
Not sure what to do now. We did have a look on the system and there are a few cars already in the system but nearly all of them are Christmas tree specs that would be mental money
I self funded my current Gti and I now plan to start paying myself back so wondered if I could get the money my car owes me back and then pay what I would of payed myself into a pcp on a Golf R.
Turns out I could but the long lead time would put a massive spanner in the works as Dynaudio is non negotiable.
What to do ????
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Depends how desperate you are for two extra tail-pipes and a bit of extra traction and how badly you want to pay VWFS interest payments?
It seems your mind is already made up so the best thing you can do is keep bugging dealers for when cancelled orders come up as I'm sure there will be more than one or two. Register with brokers etc and they'll email you when cars become available in your price range for 'immediate delivery'.
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Depends how desperate you are for two extra tail-pipes and a bit of extra traction and how badly you want to pay VWFS interest payments?
It seems your mind is already made up so the best thing you can do is keep bugging dealers for when cancelled orders come up as I'm sure there will be more than one or two. Register with brokers etc and they'll email you when cars become available in your price range for 'immediate delivery'.
I'm sure there'll be a few too. I know of one lad on the R forum who is on the verge of canclling his order because the dealer/VWFS couldn't or wouldn't lock in the old GFV and he's looking at £97 a month more than he thought he was. I doubt he'll be the only one if there really is no way to secure the old deal.
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I can well imagine! There will be a few very disappointed buyers out there who may need a change of underwear once they see how much the figures have changed. A real shame for those buyers too but at the end of the day that bubble was always going to burst and the ones who got in early and secured the bargain deals will be happy!
It's a bit of a double edged sword for a buyer - a 31 week wait is a huge pain in the derriere, especially if you have costs that will be incurred in the meantime (tyres, services, maintenance etc) but then again when there is that sort of supply and demand situation it's only going to be good for resale prices. Swings and roundabouts.
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Exonian: Having to wait that long for an R does seem to imply that supply and demand shouldn't see poor to average residuals, so i'm really not sure why the GFV took such a caning.
Are they trying to disuade the leasers from offering terms that eclipse VWs own?
Are they trying to change their business model so people do see a sizeable p/x equity in their R come trade-in time to keep them loyal to the brand?
Or are they really not that confident that the R will hold it's value well at all?
Bigger GFV cuts help the iconic GTI out a lot in terms of monthly costs - the R is back costing a significant amount more than the GTI on PCP again. Are they trying to protect the GTI brand from looking like the non-value for money option?
I could only think the third option could be true if they really are looking to a flooded market either by leasers or their own doing in making a car that is heaped with Journo praise, but without a demand that significantly outstrips supply.
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Depends how desperate you are for two extra tail-pipes and a bit of extra traction and how badly you want to pay VWFS interest payments?
It seems your mind is already made up so the best thing you can do is keep bugging dealers for when cancelled orders come up as I'm sure there will be more than one or two. Register with brokers etc and they'll email you when cars become available in your price range for 'immediate delivery'.
While I agree with what you say about VWFS I try to take a more simplistic approach. I have a set amount monthly I am willing to pay. As long as I get back into my account what I put in 6 months ago and don't touch it, apart from not actually owning the car it should have enough in it to use as a deposit and start all over again in three years time.... Or am I missing something??
Never been down the PCP route so any advice welcomed I have always arranged a personal loan in the past and have changed my car every three years for the last 20 years and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Feel free to save me from myself if I have missed something :smiley:
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@Monkeyhanger: I think VW panicked when they saw the lease deal order numbers explode exponentially and I don't think it was just the GTI that suffered sales drops - I'd hazard a guess that it was sporty models across the whole VAG brand. So yes, they're trying to restore their ordered Germanic hierarchy of models and protect the iconic GTI in particular not wanting a pile of engines and bumpers left on the shelves for years and I'd also look at the Scirocco and Audi cousins too. Something had to give. And yes, by limiting supply now by having a big waiting list will help support the resale values and prop up the GFV figures providing equity so that punters won't just be walking away at the end of the term.
They (VW) have succeeded in getting the R brand on the map in the UK (going from its very poor mk6 sales) and slipped up slightly with the unforeseen rush for orders on the back of the internet offers going viral. VW are just taking a deep breath!
@JB: As I said above, there's no perfect way of doing it and I was assuming you paid cash from your first post. If indeed you have a bank loan and wish to repay it and take a PCP then why indeed not! The only difference is that you have HP on the car instead of having a loan against you as a person. If you've got itchy feet and can afford it then you can do a lot worse than 'invest' in an R!!! I'd be tempted! I'm just sat back watching the market settle a bit at the moment; deals come and deals go so when the moment is right for you...
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@JB: As I said above, there's no perfect way of doing it and I was assuming you paid cash from your first post. If indeed you have a bank loan and wish to repay it and take a PCP then why indeed not! The only difference is that you have HP on the car instead of having a loan against you as a person. If you've got itchy feet and can afford it then you can do a lot worse than 'invest' in an R!!! I'd be tempted! I'm just sat back watching the market settle a bit at the moment; deals come and deals go so when the moment is right for you...
Exonian:
I used my old Scirocco that was already mine as part payment then used my own money to fund the rest for my current GTI. As it stands I can all but get back my own money that I paid the balance on my GTI and put that back in the bank then use the px from the GTI against a 3dr Lapis Blue DSG R with Pretoria's, Dynaudio, Keyless, Discover Nav and rear camera for the same amount per month that I was planning to pay myself back for my GTI over three years. To me it seems a bit of a no brainer and too simple and that's whats worrying me :shocked: Surely it can't be that easy can it??
It now all hinges on a call from my dealer to let me know if an unattached car they have "found" in the system is not too far down the line and can be doctored to add a couple of the extra options I want without the long wait.
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The only thing missing there is the balloon payment at the end which won't leave you with much cash!! :grin:
Nice spec R btw.
I doubt I'd bother with keyless personally but it's not a bad thing to have and the R is quite 'vocal' so Dynaudio might get a bit 'lost' and both options will be sought after when you sell it used (despite not getting much actual ££ back on them)
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The only thing missing there is the balloon payment at the end which won't leave you with much cash!! :grin:
Nice spec R btw.
I doubt I'd bother with keyless personally but it's not a bad thing to have and the R is quite 'vocal' so Dynaudio might get a bit 'lost' and both options will be sought after when you sell it used (despite not getting much actual ££ back on them)
The balloon payment you mention only applies if you want to keep it though doesn't it ?? :laugh:
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That's what you've got to balance up - the value of your current GTI (and also future value), what that is worth to you, the R and monthly costs thereof which will then come to a dead stop in three years at which point you'll need transport (assuming you'll not get itchy feet again before then). Lots of figures to juggle about and lots of permutations which you can probably come up with in 'man maths' :laugh:
Once the R400 breaks cover which might well be inside of that 31 weeks - will that tempt you?
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread.
I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available. Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order. Spec will be:
5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist
After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals. However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery. This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point. I'm a cash buyer.
Thoughts?
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See what deals are around in the dead of winter Frau Boothberg when dealer orders are pretty scant and they'll be chasing the factory bonuses at dealerships. Either way you'll be on course for a Sept 1st delivery unless cancellations start cropping up as people get impatient (especially those leasing or finishing PCP deals being left without transport if their build times get put back and back)
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread.
I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available. Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order. Spec will be:
5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist
After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals. However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery. This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point. I'm a cash buyer.
Thoughts?
I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread.
I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available. Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order. Spec will be:
5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist
After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals. However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery. This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point. I'm a cash buyer.
Thoughts?
I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.
Thanks, that's good to know and I'd be happy with that. I'll be talking to a few dealers this week so we'll see what lead times they advise and if it's much later than May, I'll wait and go for Sept delivery.
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread.
I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available. Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order. Spec will be:
5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist
After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals. However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery. This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point. I'm a cash buyer.
Thoughts?
I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.
Is that a hijacked order or a fresh one ??
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread.
I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available. Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order. Spec will be:
5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist
After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals. However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery. This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point. I'm a cash buyer.
Thoughts?
I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.
Is that a hijacked order or a fresh one ??
Completely fresh order & I got £22,500 for my current gti which will be 14 month old & have 11,000 miles on clock come April ,which is not bad for a car that was £27500 new.
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The R is very vocal in race mode, some people have had their dealer turn the sounaktor device down, others still have modified their Rs to have the exhaust flaps open all the time to make them even louder (2 pipes are closed off via flaps at low to medium loading but open at idle and high loading - in race mode). On a car so loud, I think dynaudio will be wasted, and the standard set-up is so good already (for a standard set-up). Don't ask me about options, I think the Vanilla one is stacked enough and I wiince when I see the residuals on the options - a fair few options can add 40% on PCP monthly payments quite easily, for the sake of a few more toys that make the everyday driving experience that tiny bit better.
I was thinking of PCPing and leaving money in the bank when the GFVs were high, now it's a cash definite after the downwards adjustment. I'll see how the number of Rs on the road have increased and if i'm worried that there are so many out there that the residuals will take a kicking, i'll get shot after 18 months. selling privately for a likely £22/23k and getting back the £5k equity from my GTD i'm putting into this deal. I'm starting to calm down a bit on that - GFVs dropping £3k was a shock, seemed a very drastic move by VW i've never seen them do before in 15 years of owning 7 new VWs. What's the alternative though? Only the S3 beats the R on a GFV basis now - the new R rate puts it on a % par with the upper Merc A-class cars and still beats the M135i
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While I agree with what you say about VWFS I try to take a more simplistic approach. I have a set amount monthly I am willing to pay. As long as I get back into my account what I put in 6 months ago and don't touch it, apart from not actually owning the car it should have enough in it to use as a deposit and start all over again in three years time.... Or am I missing something??
This is the way i'm trying to operate with financing cars from now on. When VW GFVs weren't quite as good as they are now, I was used to paying out £400 a month to be in something like a MK5 Golf 170TDI for 3 years. As the GFVs and residuals crept up I was in 2 Sciroccos and now the GTD, overpaying (still paying £400 a month) to have more equity for each change.
This time around, i'd done a rough calculation that my R was going to cost me £80 a month more in fuel than my GTD, so if it is only costing me £320 a month, i'm no worse off between car+fuelling cost. I'll need £22k down for my R, and if I end up getting rid after 18 months for the same money (because i'm worried about residuals when the lease cars hit the market), that's baiscally £5760 back (18 x £320) towards the next car, and running that R for 18 months will have basically cost me £2k lost interest leaving the £22k in the bank.
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The only thing missing there is the balloon payment at the end which won't leave you with much cash!! :grin:
Nice spec R btw.
I doubt I'd bother with keyless personally but it's not a bad thing to have and the R is quite 'vocal' so Dynaudio might get a bit 'lost' and both options will be sought after when you sell it used (despite not getting much actual ££ back on them)
My thoughts on Dynaudio. I have had it on both my last two cars. Scirocco & GTI and it will be the first box ticked on the next one.After a test drive of an R last Saturday with the standard set up, at least the Dynaudio will have the B***s to rise above the rather vocal nature of the car if it all becomes a bit much which is imho more than the standard version did :smiley:
We are all different and it makes for a good debate!!
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My thoughts on Dynaudio. I have had it on both my last two cars. Scirocco & GTI and it will be the first box ticked on the next one.After a test drive of an R last Saturday with the standard set up, at least the Dynaudio will have the B***s to rise above the rather vocal nature of the car if it all becomes a bit much which is imho more than the standard version did :smiley:
We are all different and it makes for a good debate!!
Maybe some are trying hard to convince themselves that Dynaudio's a waste of money :wink: :whistle:
It's down to personal preference obviously but for me Dynaudio is ia must have option, hence waiting for it to become available on the R. In any case, as I seem to spend an ever increasing amount of time sat in the car waiting around for people, at least I can enjoy a decent sound system while I do. I'm sure if you crank up the volume it will hold its own against the sound of the car on the move.
As for keyless, I guess you don't know till you try it, so will give it a shot this time round.
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My thoughts on Dynaudio. I have had it on both my last two cars. Scirocco & GTI and it will be the first box ticked on the next one.After a test drive of an R last Saturday with the standard set up, at least the Dynaudio will have the B***s to rise above the rather vocal nature of the car if it all becomes a bit much which is imho more than the standard version did :smiley:
We are all different and it makes for a good debate!!
Maybe some are trying hard to convince themselves that Dynaudio's a waste of money :wink: :whistle:
It's down to personal preference obviously but for me Dynaudio is ia must have option, hence waiting for it to become available on the R. In any case, as I seem to spend an ever increasing amount of time sat in the car waiting around for people, at least I can enjoy a decent sound system while I do. I'm sure if you crank up the volume it will hold its own against the sound of the car on the move.
As for keyless, I guess you don't know till you try it, so will give it a shot this time round.
I had Dynaudio in my ED35 and was really pleased with it and is one of the options I liked the most but was disappointed not to have available in the R. However what I can say is that since having the R I have not really missed the Dynaudio as mush as I thought I would as the std system in the MK7 isn't bad at all (it's no Dynaudio though), but for me it's not a deal breaker.
The R in race mode is loud but in a really good way and while I like to listen to the engine in Race mode I don't have music on. Also if you are cruising in race mode it's quieter than my ED35 as MK7 is quieter and more refined plus if you want to listen to music and hear it just put the R in to Normal or Eco and sit back and enjoy the music.
I understand why you would want Dynaudio especially if you are in the car a lot and you enjoy music.
I have also gone for Keyless and I really like this option works very well and love the push button start
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not missed dynaudio, had it on the last two cars and in reality it just highlighted the poor quality of mp3 and irrelevant when i upgraded the zorsts
lead in times are long, wife ordered first week of july and she is looking at bw 49
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not missed dynaudio, had it on the last two cars and in reality it just highlighted the poor quality of mp3 and irrelevant when i upgraded the zorsts
lead in times are long, wife ordered first week of july and she is looking at bw 49
Ah, well not long for her to wait now at least. Pop some pics up when she gets it :smiley:
Will find out this week what the estimated wait is, doesn't really matter tbh.
...still want Dynaudio :tongue:
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Maybe some are trying hard to convince themselves that Dynaudio's a waste of money :wink: :whistle:
It's down to personal preference obviously but for me Dynaudio is ia must have option, hence waiting for it to become available on the R. In any case, as I seem to spend an ever increasing amount of time sat in the car waiting around for people, at least I can enjoy a decent sound system while I do. I'm sure if you crank up the volume it will hold its own against the sound of the car on the move.
As for keyless, I guess you don't know till you try it, so will give it a shot this time round.
I had Dynaudio in my ED35 and was really pleased with it and is one of the options I liked the most but was disappointed not to have available in the R. However what I can say is that since having the R I have not really missed the Dynaudio as mush as I thought I would as the std system in the MK7 isn't bad at all (it's no Dynaudio though), but for me it's not a deal breaker.
The R in race mode is loud but in a really good way and while I like to listen to the engine in Race mode I don't have music on. Also if you are cruising in race mode it's quieter than my ED35 as MK7 is quieter and more refined plus if you want to listen to music and hear it just put the R in to Normal or Eco and sit back and enjoy the music.
I understand why you would want Dynaudio especially if you are in the car a lot and you enjoy music.
I have also gone for Keyless and I really like this option works very well and love the push button start
Useful feedback, thanks. Not sure if Eco mode will get much use. Keyless, maybe a bit of a novelty, but why not!
Early days, but how are you finding the R? Must have been sad to say goodbye to that gorgeous Ed35 :sad:
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i think it will be january and will be farmed off for a detail, looking forward to having a night blue as a bit more under the radar, the black ones are a bit too discreet, better order her he spare winter wheels which will look better than the cadiz
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i think it will be january and will be farmed off for a detail, looking forward to having a night blue as a bit more under the radar, the black ones are a bit too discreet, better order her he spare winter wheels which will look better than the cadiz
Night blue should be lovely, classy. I, however am a sucker for a black stealth car, and creature of habit, last 4 cars have been black, roll on number 5.
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ironically we will have ended up with three blue cars
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ironically we will have ended up with three blue cars
Ah, yes, how is the little Polo?
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great daily hack, mrs w has been using it since the Pirelli went, just wish it had dsg and nav after the R and struggling with what to replace it with
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Maybe some are trying hard to convince themselves that Dynaudio's a waste of money :wink: :whistle:
It's down to personal preference obviously but for me Dynaudio is ia must have option, hence waiting for it to become available on the R. In any case, as I seem to spend an ever increasing amount of time sat in the car waiting around for people, at least I can enjoy a decent sound system while I do. I'm sure if you crank up the volume it will hold its own against the sound of the car on the move.
As for keyless, I guess you don't know till you try it, so will give it a shot this time round.
I had Dynaudio in my ED35 and was really pleased with it and is one of the options I liked the most but was disappointed not to have available in the R. However what I can say is that since having the R I have not really missed the Dynaudio as mush as I thought I would as the std system in the MK7 isn't bad at all (it's no Dynaudio though), but for me it's not a deal breaker.
The R in race mode is loud but in a really good way and while I like to listen to the engine in Race mode I don't have music on. Also if you are cruising in race mode it's quieter than my ED35 as MK7 is quieter and more refined plus if you want to listen to music and hear it just put the R in to Normal or Eco and sit back and enjoy the music.
I understand why you would want Dynaudio especially if you are in the car a lot and you enjoy music.
I have also gone for Keyless and I really like this option works very well and love the push button start
Useful feedback, thanks. Not sure if Eco mode will get much use. Keyless, maybe a bit of a novelty, but why not!
Early days, but how are you finding the R? Must have been sad to say goodbye to that gorgeous Ed35 :sad:
I would have to say the R is epic, the performance is amazing there is just so much shove from low down compared to the ED35 and the acceleration just keeps building. The R is a better car particularly handling and steering and the traction is fantastic, a very nice car to chuck about. If I am being honest I have not missed the ED35 as this is more enjoyable and gives me such a big grin. :cool:
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I would have to say the R is epic, the performance is amazing there is just so much shove from low down compared to the ED35 and the acceleration just keeps building. The R is a better car particularly handling and steering and the traction is fantastic, a very nice car to chuck about. If I am being honest I have not missed the ED35 as this is more enjoyable and gives me such a big grin. :cool:
Cheers for the feedback mate, glad your loving it. Hopefully in 6/7/...? months time I'll be saying the same thing :cool:
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My thoughts on Dynaudio. I have had it on both my last two cars. Scirocco & GTI and it will be the first box ticked on the next one.After a test drive of an R last Saturday with the standard set up, at least the Dynaudio will have the B***s to rise above the rather vocal nature of the car if it all becomes a bit much which is imho more than the standard version did :smiley:
We are all different and it makes for a good debate!!
Maybe some are trying hard to convince themselves that Dynaudio's a waste of money :wink: :whistle:
It's down to personal preference obviously but for me Dynaudio is ia must have option, hence waiting for it to become available on the R. In any case, as I seem to spend an ever increasing amount of time sat in the car waiting around for people, at least I can enjoy a decent sound system while I do. I'm sure if you crank up the volume it will hold its own against the sound of the car on the move.
As for keyless, I guess you don't know till you try it, so will give it a shot this time round.
There's a blurred line between what's a waste of money and how much you are prepared to spend!
Everyone has their upper ceiling.
great daily hack, mrs w has been using it since the Pirelli went, just wish it had dsg and nav after the R and struggling with what to replace it with
Then why not just keep it and add Nav?
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There's a blurred line between what's a waste of money and how much you are prepared to spend!
Everyone has their upper ceiling.
All tongue in cheek Mr Ex and it is indeed a blurry line. But you're right, we all have our own upper budget limit and will weigh up 'essential' against 'nice to have' wish list options within those budgetary limits. Of course I could slum it without Dynaudio, but it's an option sufficiently high on my wish list to warrant waiting for and has been factored into my budget from the outset :smiley:
great daily hack, mrs w has been using it since the Pirelli went, just wish it had dsg and nav after the R and struggling with what to replace it with
Are you both dsg coverts now wigit? DSG Polo R? :evil: Keep it in the family.
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DSG Polo R?
Ive been waiting for this to arrive for a long time now......But after reading a few S1 reviews it might not be all that.....unless VW get the suspension / steering setup more sorted out.
Ken
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Edi35....you thinking about getting a remap? Get my R in March :sad: but I really fancy mapping it as opposed to a DTUK box, seems very fiddly for me the fact you have to get under the car itself to fit.
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Are you both dsg coverts now wigit? DSG Polo R? :evil: Keep it in the family.
Mrs W has ordered dsg on hers and the basic nav, i know people go on that Tom Tom is much better but i love the integration, all be it rerouting works better in europe as does the traffic updates
Polo R has zero appeal to me, the chassis dynamics are just not good enough, Polo is purely our daily hack and workhorse and i like the attention it does not attract especially with clients
Edi35....you thinking about getting a remap? Get my R in March :sad: but I really fancy mapping it as opposed to a DTUK box, seems very fiddly for me the fact you have to get under the car itself to fit.
No secret but my car ran along side Revo's the development and production code for their software, car is in a different league now. Revo have a revised file for some ecus, to show the issue you have to be doing 137mph and changing from 5th to 6th in a dsg one under full throttle, mine doesn't and car has done over 8,000 mapped miles
My view is if you are paranoid about your warranty don't do either
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Are you both dsg coverts now wigit? DSG Polo R? :evil: Keep it in the family.
Mrs W has ordered dsg on hers and the basic nav, i know people go on that Tom Tom is much better but i love the integration, all be it rerouting works better in europe as does the traffic updates
Polo R has zero appeal to me, the chassis dynamics are just not good enough, Polo is purely our daily hack and workhorse and i like the attention it does not attract especially with clients
Fair point and it'll always suffer by comparison to the real thing.
Leon, A1 or something left field? Got anything in mind?
This'll be the first time I've specced sat nav. Use a Tom Tom occasionally and good as it is, hate anything stuck to the screen or kicking about in the console area with wires everywhere. Prefer the clean look of a built in system. Just going for the basic system as Pro Nav would be overkill for my needs.
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waiting for the Polo on the new platform, also the 5 door mini is tempting, A1s are seriously over rated
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Edi35....you thinking about getting a remap? Get my R in March :sad: but I really fancy mapping it as opposed to a DTUK box, seems very fiddly for me the fact you have to get under the car itself to fit.
If you've already got the box then there's only the cost of a new loom from Andrew I think? Unless the R is significantly different from the GTI then you don't have to get under the car. I fitted and removed a DTUK box several times on a friend's company car GTI and it was fairly simple to get at the lower connector so long as you don't have really fat arms! You have to do it by feel and yes, it was fiddly and removal was easier with two people as you can only get one arm down there unless you're a yoga expert or very young and flexible. Certainly a lot less hassle than getting a dealer to re-flash your car if you need a dealer visit and have TD1 paranoia!
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Exonian: I asked Andrew at DTUK whether only a new loom was needed to make a GTD box suitable for an R (and then a reprogram) and the answer was no, there's a hardware difference, not sure whether that is the case with a GTI box (which may even be fine with the same loom).
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Exonian: I asked Andrew at DTUK whether only a new loom was needed to make a GTD box suitable for an R (and then a reprogram) and the answer was no, there's a hardware difference, not sure whether that is the case with a GTI box (which may even be fine with the same loom).
Ahh, I assumed the basic box was the same but the electronics would need a re-flash and obviously the loom would have to be changed.
Shame.
A 360 bhp R would be an interesting proposition on nice shiny Bridgestones!!! :laugh:
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360 bhp on 19s shod in bridgestones are ok, 360bhp on light weight 18s on Michelin Super Sports is awesome
Some chaps have reported fault codes with tuning boxes, surprised VCDS have not been approached for a group buy on another forum and asked to sponser
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With a 31 week lead time wouldn't people prefer to wait for the R420?
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The first 7R I ordered (which I subsequently cancelled) arrived at the Dealer exactly 16 weeks from the date I placed my order.
My second one will also take 16 weeks.
So why it takes 31 weeks is beyond me.
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Depends if you're getting one through fleet sales or retail.
My GTI dragged on for six months when others who went through brokers had theirs much sooner.
Bugger that, never again, unless it's something really special and bespoke (which will be never for me as I'm a pauper!)
I'll go back to buying 'pre-loved/abused' in future.
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With a 31 week lead time wouldn't people prefer to wait for the R420?
No, but I'm sure some are already having a rethink :wink:
As has been said by some in the R400 thread, the R420 should be a very focussed performance model, distinctly elevated from the other hot hatch golfs with unique styling but pared down in other respects to reflect that. I know there will be some changes pre-production but as it stands, I think it's identity is a little confused.
My needs are for a daily family driver that has the balance across performance, styling and practicality and the R delivers that. I don't need or want 420bhp which will never see the light of day on UK roads.
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The Golf R420 is an incongruous product. A Mad Max semi-premium VW shopping trolley for a ridiculous price.
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I'll quote that one back to you when you've got a 5 door one on order next year!
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I'll quote that one back to you when you've got a 5 door one on order next year!
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The Golf R420 is an incongruous product. A Mad Max semi-premium VW shopping trolley for a ridiculous price.
Perhaps I should have this as my signature on the 7R forum! Just imagine the twisted panties. They are a bit NOCD. Or to put it kindly, very new money and not old established money.
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The Golf R420 is an incongruous product. A Mad Max semi-premium VW shopping trolley for a ridiculous price.
Hear, hear.
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The Golf R420 is an incongruous product. A Mad Max semi-premium VW shopping trolley for a ridiculous price.
Hear, hear.
First of all, it's not even been priced. Secondly, how can you call it overpriced even if it is 40k.
How many cars can you buy brand new capable of doing the 0-62 sprint in 3.9 seconds with a top speed limited to 174MPH for 40,000? I'm guessing you can't think of many. So it's actually bang on the money with the added benefit of being a car you will beable to use as a daily driver without the ludicrous running costs that a Ferrari/Porsche or Maserati would bring.
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Double post. Please delete.
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Just for info, I have been advised today that the current lead time for a factory ordered Golf R is approx 20 weeks. This is via a broker. Sounds a bit on the optimistic side to me :huh:
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What a mess at Wolfsburg. Instead of reaching their target of 3800 cars a day, they can only manage just over 2000 cars, 2/3 of which are Golfs. Problems with robots, problems between Management and Unions, etc. No wonder it is taking forever to get a Golf.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-volkswagen-mqb-insight-idUSKCN0HJ0WL20140924
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What a mess at Wolfsburg. Instead of reaching their target of 3800 cars a day, they can only manage just over 2000 cars, 2/3 of which are Golfs. Problems with robots, problems between Management and Unions, etc. No wonder it is taking forever to get a Golf.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-volkswagen-mqb-insight-idUSKCN0HJ0WL20140924
Trouble at t'mill.
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What a mess at Wolfsburg. Instead of reaching their target of 3800 cars a day, they can only manage just over 2000 cars, 2/3 of which are Golfs. Problems with robots, problems between Management and Unions, etc. No wonder it is taking forever to get a Golf.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-volkswagen-mqb-insight-idUSKCN0HJ0WL20140924
Trouble at t'mill.
It seems Wolfsburg is a mad house.
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What a mess at Wolfsburg. Instead of reaching their target of 3800 cars a day, they can only manage just over 2000 cars, 2/3 of which are Golfs. Problems with robots, problems between Management and Unions, etc. No wonder it is taking forever to get a Golf.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-volkswagen-mqb-insight-idUSKCN0HJ0WL20140924
I ordered my fully loaded GTI mid August and collected mid November. Very impressed with a 3 month turnaround!
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I haven't been on for a while, but thought I would take a quick gander tonight.
The wife's R was ordered back in September and was scheduled for week 46, then delayed to week 48 and now its week 2. What do you reckon the chances are of actually seeing it built week 2 ?
Bit of a pain tbh, I am having to have the current Mk6 GTi serviced this week which was a cost I was hoping to avoid ....
BTW, the earlier post in relation to relevant running costs of the anticipated 400 versus a Porsche/Ferrari. I would put money on the 400 being more expensive to run than a Porsche ! I am on my second and they aren't as expensive as you would think
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I haven't been on for a while, but thought I would take a quick gander tonight.
The wife's R was ordered back in September and was scheduled for week 46, then delayed to week 48 and now its week 2. What do you reckon the chances are of actually seeing it built week 2 ?
Bit of a pain tbh, I am having to have the current Mk6 GTi serviced this week which was a cost I was hoping to avoid ....
BTW, the earlier post in relation to relevant running costs of the anticipated 400 versus a Porsche/Ferrari. I would put money on the 400 being more expensive to run than a Porsche ! I am on my second and they aren't as expensive as you would think
Sept order for BW46 was always a little optimistic unless the dealer was snatching a cancelled order. I ordered Sept 20th, order accepted at the factory on Sept 24th, always provisional for BW4 (bog standard 5 door manual in Lapiz, so no fancy options potentially causing delays) - i'll check with VW UK to see if my provisional BW has slid (it might give you an idea as to whether yours will slide further). If you do end up being BW2, your confirmation should be imminent.
In the back of my mind I was thinking about a Cayman, but it was looking quite expensive. I suppose the difference per month on a fully loaded R vs a basic Cayman (that comes with absolutely nowt) is not so big residual % between the 2 cars aren't much different.
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Sept order for BW46 was always a little optimistic unless the dealer was snatching a cancelled order. I ordered Sept 20th, order accepted at the factory on Sept 24th, always provisional for BW4 (bog standard 5 door manual in Lapiz, so no fancy options potentially causing delays) - i'll check with VW UK to see if my provisional BW has slid (it might give you an idea as to whether yours will slide further). If you do end up being BW2, your confirmation should be imminent.
In the back of my mind I was thinking about a Cayman, but it was looking quite expensive. I suppose the difference per month on a fully loaded R vs a basic Cayman (that comes with absolutely nowt) is not so big residual % between the 2 cars aren't much different.
I latched onto a cancelled order, but evidently it wasn't as far down the track as I hoped. Sure it will be worth it in the end.
I think your R will be more enjoyable than a basic Cayman. It can be depressing looking at rows of blanked out buttons on a dash !
I always get into them at 12 months old where some unfortunate person has lost a load of cash, then PCP them and the further % depreciation looks almost bearable. The first owner of my current one lost £36k over 12 months and 3k miles. You have to be on a different financial planet to stomach that :undecided:
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My R has just hit stage 2 (order with factory), and I checked with VW UK where mine currently is - unconfirmed BW4 a few weeks ago, now unconfirmed BW8 today. They did say it's always worst case when scheduling and it could shuffle back down. I was checking to ensure I had time to add on Pretorias. I do and so I have added them to the order, they may well put my order back further though! :rolleyes:
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My R has just hit stage 2 (order with factory), and I checked with VW UK where mine currently is - unconfirmed BW4 a few weeks ago, now unconfirmed BW8 today. They did say it's always worst case when scheduling and it could shuffle back down. I was checking to ensure I had time to add on Pretorias. I do and so I have added them to the order, they may well put my order back further though! :rolleyes:
Is that just so you can avoid Bridgestones MH? :grin:
To be honest, that's the only "essential" option I'd tick on an R (aside from rear camera maybe)
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Exonian: No, I'm actually more likely to get Bridgestones on 19". :angry:
But I saw a Lapis with Prets on yesterday and my mind was made up. They were on the White demo I had my test drive in and I wasn't fussed. Have they grown on me or are they colour selective? My dealer just phoned me to say it's all done and their system says I'm unconfirmed BW18 (and was just before adding prets). If mine really is that long they'll try to grab a cancelled or non-committed order. BW18? I'll be holding out for the 65 plate if that comes to fruition! :grin:
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Good Lord monkeyhanger, BW18 is a crazy long wait. It is not as if they are building a Veyron or perhaps they are if you listen to the posters on the R Forum.
My 2nd R (the 1st I cancelled as I got a better deal nearer home) is still on BW6 which I ordered 1st Week October. I was thinking of adding a Pano Roof, but now I am concerned it might adversely affect the BW. I'll speak to the Dealer on Monday next week to check the lay of the land. Not too fussed either way.
Are you ordering DCC with the Prets?
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Good Lord monkeyhanger, BW18 is ridiculous. It is not as if they are building a Veyron.
My 2nd R (the 1st I cancelled as I got a better deal nearer home) is still on BW6 which I ordered 1st Week October. I was thinking of adding a Pano Roof, but now I am concerned it might adversely affect by BW. I'll speak to the Dealer on Monday next week to check the lay of the land. Not too fussed either way.
Are you ordering DCC with the Prets?
If there's any option that is most likely to extend your delivery time it'll be a sunroof. It's a pretty rare option and they're likely to wait until they have a fair few of them and make them together in a campaign.. There were huge delays on the Scirocco a few years ago on the back of a lack of sunroof parts - they were adding about 15 weeks onto the standard 10 week build wait.
I think my dealership might have gotten the wrong end of the stick with the BW18 prediction as literally an hour earlier, VW UK had stated BW8 to me when I wanted to ensure my order hadn't gone confirmed, and the BW18 prediction was before they modified my order.
According to my dealer they couldn't officially retain the price lock (pre Nov price) on the main car by adding the Prets, but that was nowt for me to worry about, they would do some work behind the scenes to keep it so. There always seems to be a way to fiddle it in.
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Good Lord monkeyhanger, BW18 is ridiculous. It is not as if they are building a Veyron.
My 2nd R (the 1st I cancelled as I got a better deal nearer home) is still on BW6 which I ordered 1st Week October. I was thinking of adding a Pano Roof, but now I am concerned it might adversely affect by BW. I'll speak to the Dealer on Monday next week to check the lay of the land. Not too fussed either way.
Are you ordering DCC with the Prets?
If there's any option that is most likely to extend your delivery time it'll be a sunroof. It's a pretty rare option and they're likely to wait until they have a fair few of them and make them together in a campaign.. There were huge delays on the Scirocco a few years ago on the back of a lack of sunroof parts - they were adding about 15 weeks onto the standard 10 week build wait.
I think my dealership might have gotten the wrong end of the stick with the BW18 prediction as literally an hour earlier, VW UK had stated BW8 to me when I wanted to ensure my order hadn't gone confirmed, and the BW18 prediction was before they modified my order.
According to my dealer they couldn't officially retain the price lock (pre Nov price) on the main car by adding the Prets, but that was nowt for me to worry about, they would do some work behind the scenes to keep it so. There always seems to be a way to fiddle it in.
I was thinking of the Pano Roof or upgrading from DNS to DNS Pro. The latter is a real waste of money for me even though the big screen is soooo lovely. I'll see what the dealer says on Monday. One has to be careful not to over spec a car with too many lovely toys. Easily done.
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am1w: No DCC for me. The standard set up on 18" rubber of my GTD is lightyears ahead of the crashy ride on my last MK5, I know the 19s will be a little firmer, but even on 2 Sciroccos the car was rarely out of "Sport" (just heard 20 people say together "the MK7 system is more sophisticated than that on the Scirocco") - £895 for Prets, fair enough, it's a bit pricey but to have to add DCC, i'll live with the slightly firmer ride.
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am1w: No DCC for me. The standard set up on 18" rubber of my GTD is lightyears ahead of the crashy ride on my last MK5, I know the 19s will be a little firmer, but even on 2 Sciroccos the car was rarely out of "Sport" (just heard 20 people say together "the MK7 system is more sophisticated than that on the Scirocco") - £895 for Prets, fair enough, it's a bit pricey but to have to add DCC, i'll live with the slightly firmer ride.
I think the ride will be fine without DCC. However, I've specced DCC with 18" wheels plus 6 other options which includes Dynaudio. I think that is more than enough.
The Prets are lighter than the Cadiz, so the unsprung weight with them may be a bit less which I am sure has advantages.
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Just thought I would give a little update on where I am now after I started this thread. After failing to agree a deal that suited and was about to walk away I was offered a proper curve ball.
We found a car in the system with a fairly basic spec that wasn't confirmed for production. My dealer spoke to VW UK to confirm we could alter the spec without pushing the build too far into next year and they have put an order in for my ideal spec without me having a commitment to buy (which I have in writing signed by the sales manager) when the car turns up providing we reach a deal I will buy if not I walk away no strings attached.
As of today it is at Stage 3 "Your order has been confirmed for production week commencing 21/12/14 Wk51!!
I also had it confirmed that if I do have it I can have it Mar 1st
Spec: Golf R 3dr Lapiz Blue DSG, Pretoria's, Dynaudio, Discover Nav, Rear Camera, Keyless Entry
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Just thought I would give a little update on where I am now after I started this thread. After failing to agree a deal that suited and was about to walk away I was offered a proper curve ball.
We found a car in the system with a fairly basic spec that wasn't confirmed for production. My dealer spoke to VW UK to confirm we could alter the spec without pushing the build too far into next year and they have put an order in for my ideal spec without me having a commitment to buy (which I have in writing signed by the sales manager) when the car turns up providing we reach a deal I will buy if not I walk away no strings attached.
As of today it is at Stage 3 "Your order has been confirmed for production week commencing 21/12/14 Wk51!!
I also had it confirmed that if I do have it I can have it Mar 1st
Spec: Golf R 3dr Lapiz Blue DSG, Pretoria's, Dynaudio, Discover Nav, Rear Camera, Keyless Entry
That's a result. But, as there's now an R on order, with your ideal spec, a reasonable delivery slot, which appears to be what you wanted initially, why do you want the option to walk away, do you want an R or not? Initially, it appeared that the long lead in time was putting you off but this has been shortened now. I don't suppose it matters as you'll either take it or leave it, I'm just curious :huh:
Nice spec btw :smiley:
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I definitely want the car but I am not going to be railroaded into any old deal just to get my hands on a R if it doesn't make sense. My car is only 10 months old and I am still over the moon with it.
The impression I got from the dealer was when firm timescales were known they would give a proper px price which they would not commit to when they weren't sure when the car would turn up and also reading between the lines VW finance might be offering a new campaign then too. We shall see and hopefully I will be driving off in a new R on March 1st :wink:
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I definitely want the car but I am not going to be railroaded into any old deal just to get my hands on a R if it doesn't make sense. My car is only 10 months old and I am still over the moon with it.
The impression I got from the dealer was that a more favourable deal would be possible around February as it will be a much slower month for them and reading between the lines VW finance might be offering a new campaign then too. We shall see and hopefully I will be driving off in a new R on March 1st :wink:
Fair enough mate, makes sense. Hope you get the deal you're looking for. I'm in the process of ordering and securing a deal on an R (factory specced) also, but most likely going for 1st Sept delivery now due to long wait times. Moving from a mk6.
If you're still over the moon with your newish GTI, why change though?
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I definitely want the car but I am not going to be railroaded into any old deal just to get my hands on a R if it doesn't make sense. My car is only 10 months old and I am still over the moon with it.
The impression I got from the dealer was that a more favourable deal would be possible around February as it will be a much slower month for them and reading between the lines VW finance might be offering a new campaign then too. We shall see and hopefully I will be driving off in a new R on March 1st :wink:
Fair enough mate, makes sense. Hope you get the deal you're looking for. I'm in the process of ordering and securing a deal on an R (factory specced) also, but most likely going for 1st Sept delivery now due to long wait times. Moving from a mk6.
If you're still over the moon with your newish GTI, why change though?
Simple. I can't resist an opportunity like this :laugh:
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JB GTI:
I would be a bit sceptical about VW putting out a new campaign for the R in the first quarter of 2015. If I recall there were three or four campaigns this year one of which lasted just 3 days! I hope they do for your sake and you get the deal you want. Otherwise, you still have your excellent GTI which still delights you. Win-win!
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JB GTI:
I would be a bit sceptical about VW putting out a new campaign for the R in the first quarter of 2015. If I recall there were three or four campaigns this year one of which lasted just 3 days! I hope they do for your sake and you get the deal you want. Otherwise, you still have your excellent GTI which still delights you. Win-win!
I am not too far away from agreement anyway so while there may or may not be another carrot from VW the fact that my dealer has ordered the exact car I want gives me the impression that they are confident we will reach a satisfactory conclusion :whistle:
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Failing to see you are truly in the driving seat for the best deal on this, end of the day the dealer knows they have a well specced R and will have a queue of potential candidates for this will to miss the wait
Good luck
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I have to agree with Wigit here. The longer wait you have without a secured p/x price, the more your GTI is depreciating and the less you'll get for it. Added to that you haven't got a commitment from the dealer to sell you that car at a certain price yet. I can see the car arriving (or being close to arrival) and the dealer will perhaps be wanting closer to RRP than you might've otherwise got. There will be people out there wanting to get their hands on an R without the wait and willing to pay pretty close to post-Nov price increase RRP.
I'd be doing my utmost to tie the dealer down to a solid price to change if I were you.
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Quite happy to go with the flow. If it is meant to be it will happen. If not something else will come along. Its not like they are a special edition limited production run car.
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Well, after the BW enquiry around 2 weeks ago just prior to adding Pretorias to my order seeing my estimated BW jump from BW4 to BW 8 according to VW UK and BW18 according to my dealer, within an hour of each other, I thought i'd see what my order was doing.
After telling the VW UK rep what had transpired, she excitedly said "good news, it's come down to BW 15!". No it hasn't, it's gone up 7 weeks if I ignore the dealer's quoted BW and stick with what VW UK have told me. BW15, isn't that the week commencing 6th April 2015? If so it'll probably not be ready until early May (assuming past experience of Tyne bound cars not hanging around at Emden long, and proximity of the dealer to Port of Tyne ensuring it gets delivered to the dealership within 3 working days of landing dockside). I'm away on my Hols from the 24th April, so it'll probably be waiting for me on my return.
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Well, after the BW enquiry around 2 weeks ago just prior to adding Pretorias to my order seeing my estimated BW jump from BW4 to BW 8 according to VW UK and BW18 according to my dealer, within an hour of each other, I thought i'd see what my order was doing.
After telling the VW UK rep what had transpired, she excitedly said "good news, it's come down to BW 15!". No it hasn't, it's gone up 7 weeks if I ignore the dealer's quoted BW and stick with what VW UK have told me. BW15, isn't that the week commencing 6th April 2015? If so it'll probably not be ready until early May (assuming past experience of Tyne bound cars not hanging around at Emden long, and proximity of the dealer to Port of Tyne ensuring it gets delivered to the dealership within 3 working days of landing dockside). I'm away on my Hols from the 24th April, so it'll probably be waiting for me on my return.
Not good news MH :sad: It's worth the wait though :smiley:
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I am still on BW6 and cannot change anything except wheels and colour, both of which I don't wish to change. Just hope my BW does not slip.
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I placed order end of October,before price increase,just been confirmed BW2 via email from dealer.
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Not sure whether adding the wheels and the time of the year they do some heavy duty scheduling either side of the Christmas shutdown have added up to a wholly unrealistic planned BW, and it may drop back down to something reasonable like BW6, seeing as it was up to BW8/18 before even adding the wheels. Maybe it's down to my order being flagged as not required until February on my order form (for a March delivery). Who knows, i'll wait it out, my GTD isn't a bad place to be right now - although the winter mpg is utterly sh!te, averaging about 41mpg indicated.
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Not sure whether adding the wheels and the time of the year they do some heavy duty scheduling either side of the Christmas shutdown have added up to a wholly unrealistic planned BW, and it may drop back down to something reasonable like BW6, seeing as it was up to BW8/18 before even adding the wheels. Maybe it's down to my order being flagged as not required until February on my order form (for a March delivery). Who knows, i'll wait it out, my GTD isn't a bad place to be right now - although the winter mpg is utterly sh!te, averaging about 41mpg indicated.
In my case I started on BW2 and ended up with BW6 once I added the Dynaudio. It has remained on BW6 ever since.
I think your winter mpg at 41 is excellent. You are spoilt! Wait until you get the R. Probably 21 mpg or even less!
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I think your winter mpg at 41 is excellent. You are spoilt! Wait until you get the R. Probably 21 mpg or even less!
It's the worst mpg in a long line of TDIs (for the one that's supposed to be the most economical) and there's potential to get a lot colder yet. A toasty 10C yesterday saw a sensibly driven 70 mile round trip get 43mpg. :undecided:
I used to be able to hammer my Scirocco 170TDI and get 46mpg on even an 8 mile journey. Progress eh?
Will the R be 1/2 as affected by the cold as a TDI is? It's so long since i've owned a petrol to have kept an eye on the mpg, and as we know, a combination of winter diesel and really needing a warm engine to work at their best does put the TDI at a disadvantage when the mercury drops. I can't remember winters having a massive effect on my old Peugeot 205 GTI's thirst.
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I had a call from the dealer today with an update. Nothing has slipped and car is still due to be built next week. It was bw51 before I doctored the order and stayed the same when I had the spec altered. The tracker has shown car is scheduled to be built wc 21st Dec since 3rd week of November. To be honest I can't see it being built so close to Christmas but he seems to think there is not a full shutdown over Christmas :undecided:
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I had a call from the dealer today with an update. Nothing has slipped and car is still due to be built next week. It was bw51 before I doctored the order and stayed the same when I had the spec altered. The tracker has shown car is scheduled to be built wc 21st Dec since 3rd week of November. To be honest I can't see it being built so close to Christmas but he seems to think there is not a full shutdown over Christmas :undecided:
It will probably come with a Xmas tree hanging from the Rear View Mirror and Smiling Santa in the Glove Box.
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Just had BW2 confirmed here :smiley:
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I had a call from the dealer today with an update. Nothing has slipped and car is still due to be built next week. It was bw51 before I doctored the order and stayed the same when I had the spec altered. The tracker has shown car is scheduled to be built wc 21st Dec since 3rd week of November. To be honest I can't see it being built so close to Christmas but he seems to think there is not a full shutdown over Christmas :undecided:
It will probably come with a Xmas tree hanging from the Rear View Mirror and Smiling Santa in the Glove Box.
And some leftover stale Stollen and a empty bottle of Gluhwein :whistle:
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I think your winter mpg at 41 is excellent. You are spoilt! Wait until you get the R. Probably 21 mpg or even less!
It's the worst mpg in a long line of TDIs (for the one that's supposed to be the most economical) and there's potential to get a lot colder yet. A toasty 10C yesterday saw a sensibly driven 70 mile round trip get 43mpg. :undecided:
I used to be able to hammer my Scirocco 170TDI and get 46mpg on even an 8 mile journey. Progress eh?
Will the R be 1/2 as affected by the cold as a TDI is? It's so long since i've owned a petrol to have kept an eye on the mpg, and as we know, a combination of winter diesel and really needing a warm engine to work at their best does put the TDI at a disadvantage when the mercury drops. I can't remember winters having a massive effect on my old Peugeot 205 GTI's thirst.
It will be mate yes. All engines are much more efficient when warm and obviously the colder the weather the longer they take to warm up. I've seen my MPG drop from 36 each day to work down to 32 since the temperatures dropped drastically.
My brothers R averages around 24MPG. It's a pretty thirsty car.
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Mr Savage:
With the obvious oil being more viscous when cold (not massively more with newer fully synthetic oils), drier air (that summer humidity helps a lot on the bang expansion) and extra use of lights, heating etc in the winter being a common winter mpg killer to both cars, I knew there'd be an effect. I was under the impression though that the difference between summer and winter mpg was noticeably greater with a diesel than a petrol (maybe 20% diesel vs 10% dip with the petrol), primarily due to the volatility of the petrol meaning it ignites well at all temperature ranges.
My GTD is certainly looking about 20% thirstier on like-for-like journeys right now vs what it was doing in the summer. It seems far more temperature sensitive than any of my previous TDIs - an actual 44mpg around the doors is about the worse I ever saw in my Scirocco at slightly sub-zero temps. I'm seeing about 41mpg now at +5C, so there's always a chance it could get worse.
I wouldn't sweat a 4-5mpg dip in the R. I suppose a 4mpg dip in your GTI is noticeable but not huge, unlike me being down 7mpg on a short journey and 10mpg on a longer one. You've suffered an 11% drop at the same time i've suffered an 18% drop, that's kind of what I was expecting, for the petrol to be less affected (but still affected) by the winter.
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MH;
Yes 10% petrol and 20% diesel sounds about right.
To be honest with you ive not particularly noticed the drop but that's mostly because petrol prices are crashing down right now.
My previous car, a GT TDI 140 averaged around 45mpg all year round.
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Build week 4 just been confirmed for my order, so that's looking like a March 1st collection :laugh:
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Damn and Blast! My BW has slipped from BW6 to BW7. According to VWCS there are a huge number of orders for the R both from the UK and from the Continent, more than they expected.
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Damn and Blast! My BW has slipped from BW6 to BW7. According to VWCS there are a huge number of orders for the R both from the UK and from the Continent, more than they expected.
There are a lot of leasers due their cars getting built very early in the new year from the Aug/Sept deals that were going around. Maybe they're getting priority over the retail ones? Be thankful you're not at BW15, looking like a May pick-up for me. Might be my own fault for adding to my order. A 1 week slip isn't a disaster right now.
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Damn and Blast! My BW has slipped from BW6 to BW7. According to VWCS there are a huge number of orders for the R both from the UK and from the Continent, more than they expected.
There are a lot of leasers due their cars getting built very early in the new year from the Aug/Sept deals that were going around. Maybe they're getting priority over the retail ones? Be thankful you're not at BW15, looking like a May pick-up for me. Might be my own fault for adding to my order. A 1 week slip isn't a disaster right now.
I know, I know. But my BMW is already pre-sold and the guy is getting very impatient.
I started on BW2, then it was BW6 and now it is BW7.
Our replacement BMW for the other one took just 7 weeks from order date to delivery today.
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BMW do seem to rattle a car out quickly, even a 135i - more efficient or a less full order book?
It's just like waiting for my GTD all over again. BW24>BW28>BW33, actually built in BW35 in 2013. Best to be a few weeks after Christmas, to get that Gluhwein and Hefe Weizen out of their system for building yours. You could ask if a free loaner is forthcoming, but it's not officially late until it's 2 weeks past confirmed build week.
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VW didn't help themselves by making the R so cheap to buy. I know a lad going out a 1.2 Corsa into a Golf R, quite an upgrade!
It's no surprise that they are struggling with keeping up on the production line with mass demand.
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I think part of the problem for the inordinate delays can be attributed to problems with the MQB platform with too many Golf variations being spun off from it, problems with the Robots at Wolfsburg, some software glitches and Unions being up in arms. Hopefully things will calm down a bit in the New Year and the cars that will emerge will be of better quality and be produced more efficiently. Well let us hope that the VW Wolfsburg juggernaut will regain some sort of equilibrium.
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VW didn't help themselves by making the R so cheap to buy. I know a lad going out a 1.2 Corsa into a Golf R, quite an upgrade!
It's no surprise that they are struggling with keeping up on the production line with mass demand.
I don't think it's cheap to buy (the extra cost over a GTI PP is pretty well justified, but not ridiculously good value for money), but with some of the deals going down, it was very cheap to lease in it's basic form. I've read a fair few young owners of clapped out Corsas and Clios swapping to an R (they might be in for a shock at the end of their term if another cracking deal isn't available) on the other forum. If the amazing lease offerings were a one off, we might see more sensible waiting times in future.
The best screwed together VWs I ever owned (requiring the least amount of warranty work) were my 2 MK3 Sciroccos - so much for the Germans, it would seem that the Portuguese build better VWs.
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If only Golfs were produced in the Czech Republic.
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Yes they aren't particularly cheap when buying outright of course but the leasing deals were frankly ridiculous. With some deals making the GTI actually cost significantly more over the term than it's flagship R. Was bizarre in my opinion.
VW's build quality has certainly dropped over recent years. I can see the difference just from the MK5 to the MK7 but I guess as they try and push more and more cars out the factory they are going to be cutting corners sadly while trying to maximise profits.
Take KIA for example, they've really upped their game in recent years and are now treading right on the heels of the German cars in terms of build quality.
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A Kia or Hyundai is better made than a VW IMO. The VW might have better perceived quality but it is not as well made.
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You're probably right. VW are still riding on their history when they used to be a considerable amount ahead of their competitors, many years ago.
My friends Renault Megane RS still feels a few levels below the Golf in terms of build quality but then again it's more aimed towards the track so that's expected.
The new Ford Focus ST feels pretty solid and well refined and they are definitely one to keep an eye on once they release their new Focus RS in 2016. To be honest unless VW start improving rather drastically and getting back ahead of the game then i'll seriously consider a different manufacturer for the first time in many years.
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Mr Savage:
I agree with everything you say.
I must admit that the fit and finish of my BMW is excellent except for the leather seats which I classify as Hippo Hide and were baggy when new. Got this fixed after many arguments with BMW who were really pig headed. No different to VW when I complained about a warped rear bumper on my Mk6 GTI which they eventually replaced (after much discussion) under warranty. But hey, the BMW has 'free' leather which is a million times better in quality (and there's more of it) than VW Vienna Leather which is leather only for the seat base and back but all the rest is vinyl! They really should call it Vienna Vinyl. As for their Nappa nonsense, well that is daylight robbery.
Yes, the Mk5 Golf was perhaps the last well made Golf. The downward trajectory in Golf quality seems to be gathering pace.
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Double post!
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Excellent residuals are the main reason why I choose VW over the competition. I like the cars (but not enough to buy new if their residuals weren't excellent) and they are good innovators (loved the Scirocco when it first came out, I suppose it's a real testament to the design that so many other cars copied its looks), they're well equipped for a German car too.
I do like the solid feel of a German car, although the solid feel has really been diminished by the really thin panels on the MK7 - i'd have lived with the extra 23kg on the bodywork for that door closing "thunk" that the rear doors are missing.
If I wanted to be a little less practical i'd probably be looking for the new TT (although the TTS is ridiculously expensive for an 80ps hike and not much else over the standard one for about £8k more).
German cars do look tidier for longer in general, but perhaps that's because they're so expensive and people end up looking after them more as a result.
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One thing that is pretty obvious when comparing my BMW to the Golf R. The BMW panels are really solid and bend-free unlike the flimsy tinny Golf panels. The BMW really feels as if is hewn out of a solid billet of steel. It is incredibly well made. Very reassuring. Should there be such a marked difference? I wonder how the A3 compares with the Golf. Probably the same though it looks a bit more substantial.
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One thing that is pretty obvious when comparing my BMW to the Golf R. The BMW panels are really solid and bend-free unlike the flimsy tinny Golf panels. The BMW really feels as if is hewn out of a solid billet of steel. It is incredibly well made. Very reassuring. Should there be such a marked difference? I wonder how the A3 compares with the Golf. Probably the same though it looks a bit more substantial.
The S3 doors feel a bit thicker on a tap test - but they are made out of Aluminium. It definitely feels a bit more solid until you open the door and find it feels quite light on its hinges.
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One thing that is pretty obvious when comparing my BMW to the Golf R. The BMW panels are really solid and bend-free unlike the flimsy tinny Golf panels. The BMW really feels as if is hewn out of a solid billet of steel. It is incredibly well made. Very reassuring. Should there be such a marked difference? I wonder how the A3 compares with the Golf. Probably the same though it looks a bit more substantial.
The S3 doors feel a bit thicker on a tap test - but they are made out of Aluminium. It definitely feels a bit more solid until you open the door and find it feels quite light on its hinges.
Thought so. But it looks so meh. I also think the A3 Saloon is no looker as to my eyes its proportions seem wrong though it is better looking than the frumpy A3 hatch.
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Mr Savage:
I agree with everything you say.
I must admit that the fit and finish of my BMW is excellent except for the leather seats which I classify as Hippo Hide and were baggy when new. Got this fixed after many arguments with BMW who were really pig headed. No different to VW when I complained about a warped rear bumper on my Mk6 GTI which they eventually replaced (after much discussion) under warranty. But hey, the BMW has 'free' leather which is a million times better in quality (and there's more of it) than VW Vienna Leather which is leather only for the seat base and back but all the rest is vinyl! They really should call it Vienna Vinyl. As for their Nappa nonsense, well that is daylight robbery.
Yes, the Mk5 Golf was perhaps the last well made Golf. The downward trajectory in Golf quality seems to be gathering pace.
The mk5 wasn't well made. It rattled i could write a book on fixing them and more or less did on pistonheads...it had design issues. Rust issues with wings, boot lid, sills. The last well made and designed golf dates back to 1992 with the last of the mk2 models sadly.
As for residuals its odd but most people look at the % value rather than the £ value. I actually lost less pound notes after discounts moving over to SEATs from 1993 - 2005 than if I had bought the equivalent golfs. As a large % loss or less % value after 3 years of a small purchase price is actually less pound notes loss. Plus at that time VW made sloppy cars.
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Snoopy - i'd agree with that! I see more MK2s than MK3s and 4s around the North East, and my 2 MK5s had by far the most warranty work of any of my 7 VWs bought from new. Surprisingly, the 2 Portuguese built Sciroccos I had hardly cost VW a penny in warranty work and were rattle-free. If there was an MQB based Scirocco on the cards i'd have been quite tempted by one of those rather than the R.
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Lads: I am getting depressed!
I just don't want a car with rattles. My BMW is totally rattle free and hope and pray that the R will be the same though from what I am reading it is hoping against hope. :cry: :sad:
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Lads: I am getting depressed!
I just don't want a car with rattles. My BMW is totally rattle free and hope and pray that the R will be the same though from what I am reading it is hoping against hope. :cry: :sad:
My MK7 is rattle free right now. It had a few creaks early days, due to shagged front suspension mount bearings (the dealership forgot to take a set of transport pucks out of the front struts).
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I have a mk7 GTI pp with almost 10k on clock no probs or rattles also had a R for a whole day to test b4 I ordered my 1 and used a whole tank. Went over just about every road surface..again no rattles.
Im sure it will be fine. Its a common that all manufacturers are cutting costs these days. Mercs and bmw of old had better interior quality materials in my opinion.
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Any way my R has confirmed Bw of wk 10 now..ordered Oct with 19" Dealer seems to think it may still come forward as vw ramp RHD production for march plates..
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Asker, your mk6 was rattle free unlike mine so im sure your mk7 will be too.
Unlike you I actually like the S3 saloon and for some reason it reminds me, but i dont know why of the the type 44 audi 100 my father ran from new in 86 until late 98 when he changed it. If they only made cars as well engineered and assembled nowadays. That car was faultless, rattle free, and rust free for its entire stay with us. It also reminds me of the small boot Audi 90 20Vs I always liked when I was younger. I just dont think I could join the audi crowd the way I seem to get tailgated blinded and annoyed by local Audi drivers. The saloon would be too unpractical for my only car too.
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Any way my R has confirmed Bw of wk 10 now..ordered Oct with 19" Dealer seems to think it may still come forward as vw ramp RHD production for march plates..
Confirmed, are you sure? Confirmed build week generally happens 4 weeks before BW, so you would expect to hear BW5/6 for a BW10 built car. Mine is currently unconfirmed BW15 (from BW8 and BW4 before that).
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Hi
yep that's what my dealer told me. Hes not been wrong before.
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I am build week 4 and it was confirmed over a week ago. Like you say let's hope they get a shift on, I would like a March 1st delivery :smiley:
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The wording on mine changed yesterday on the tracker from confirmed for production wc 21st Dec to just confirmed for production. I think that means they have definitely started build and when/if it actually shows stage 4 "build in progress" it will be about to leave the factory. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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I am build week 4 and it was confirmed over a week ago. Like you say let's hope they get a shift on, I would like a March 1st delivery :smiley:
My Current GTi was built BW3 last year which was WC 12/1/14 and it had arrived at the dealer by 4th Feb. You should be fine for a 1st March delivery :wink:
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I am build week 4 and it was confirmed over a week ago. Like you say let's hope they get a shift on, I would like a March 1st delivery :smiley:
My Current GTi was built BW3 last year which was WC 12/1/14 and it had arrived at the dealer by 4th Feb. You should be fine for a 1st March delivery :wink:
I hope so, not excited at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Asker, your mk6 was rattle free unlike mine so im sure your mk7 will be too.
Unlike you I actually like the S3 saloon and for some reason it reminds me, but i dont know why of the the type 44 audi 100 my father ran from new in 86 until late 98 when he changed it. If they only made cars as well engineered and assembled nowadays. That car was faultless, rattle free, and rust free for its entire stay with us. It also reminds me of the small boot Audi 90 20Vs I always liked when I was younger. I just dont think I could join the audi crowd the way I seem to get tailgated blinded and annoyed by local Audi drivers. The saloon would be too unpractical for my only car too.
Geoff: Yes my Mk6 GTI was rattle free until the last 3 months of ownership. The main rattle come from behind the speedo. Then on the day it was sold the rattle stopped!
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So, I spoke to my Fleet Manager today and asked whether I could add another cheap option like Keyless without it affecting my BW. His answer was a resounding NOOOOO. Monday March 2nd delivery it will be I am told.
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Has anyone with. Wk51 build had any progress on the tracker since before Christmas?
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I will give VW UK a call next Tues 6th Jan (I will give them a day to let things calm down after what will be the frst day back at work for many - myself included) to see where my BW is, last time of asking was BW15 from BW4 and then BW8.
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I guess there wont be any online updates for a while as the factory etc is closed.?
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wife's has disappeared off the VW system so assuming it may be finally on a boat as built
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Mine has moved to stage 4 Build In Progress overnight.
Not sure that will reflect the truth somehow :whistle:
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Look forward to seeing your new baby @ Stanford Hall :wink: :wink:
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Make that 9 weeks !! It's built, just had the stage 5 text from VW :cool:
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Mine will have been 32/33 weeks by the time I anticipate picking it up towards the start/middle of May (BW15 currently, from an initial unconfirmed BW4).
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Mine will have been 32/33 weeks by the time I anticipate picking it up towards the start/middle of May (BW15 currently, from an initial unconfirmed BW4).
I got a car already in the system that was able to be reconfigured to my spec without affecting the lead time. Just got lucky I suppose :whistle:
Mine was Supposed to be confirmed BW51 but more likely BW2 with these timings.
I am waiting until March though for the plate change.
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Just had confirmation email new R arrived in UK.Going to be a long February as not picking it up till 1st March.
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Deff worth waiting for new '15' reg - and its too cold and wet to be collecting a new car now anyway! :wink:
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Just checked VW UK today for my order - it has come forward a week to BW14 from BW15.
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Just checked VW UK today for my order - it has come forward a week to BW14 from BW15.
Hope it comes nearer as time passes but not at BW13.
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Had the Stage 6 email this morning !! :laugh:
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Had a phone call this morning. Car has arrived at the dealers. Planning to go and see it sometime next week :cool: :cool:
March seems a long time away !!
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Mines also just arrived at dealers.The sales rep sent me a nice surprise today,a video clip of my car still with some of wrappings on.Going to go look at it maybe this weekend.
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Had a phone call this morning. Car has arrived at the dealers. Planning to go and see it sometime next week :cool: :cool:
March seems a long time away !!
Get some pics - will be good to see a Pretoria equipped Lapiz, and also to know what rubber it is on (crossing my fingers for you to have Conti 5P rather than Bridgestone RE050).
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MH - how have you got your head around your fuel bills doubling once the R arrives - or will your mileage drop to compensate?
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Text this morning, car has left the factory, 37 days to go..... :laugh:
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MH - how have you got your head around your fuel bills doubling once the R arrives - or will your mileage drop to compensate?
Mileage will hopefully be about the same in my new job (wherever that will be) - redundancy looms in June, with a big lumper, so the R will be bought outright. Considering 1/3 of the average PCP is interest, not having finance will be saving me about £150 a month over the PCP option, and I was anticipating (before the fuel prices came down almost 20%) that fuelling the R would be costing me about £80 a month more, more like £65 now.
For a TDI, my GTDs mpg is rock bottom right now, so not much of a shock (hopefully). Just looking forward to get some confident traction.
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Had a phone call this morning. Car has arrived at the dealers. Planning to go and see it sometime next week :cool: :cool:
March seems a long time away !!
Get some pics - will be good to see a Pretoria equipped Lapiz, and also to know what rubber it is on (crossing my fingers for you to have Conti 5P rather than Bridgestone RE050).
Will do but, don't hold your breath!
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(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o539/andypgill/DF5ADDEE-272E-4814-84EA-04F7548DCC0C_zpspikcp56z.png) (http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/andypgill/media/DF5ADDEE-272E-4814-84EA-04F7548DCC0C_zpspikcp56z.png.html)
This is a screen shot of the video of our car.Still has the transport pucks looking at the ride height.
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Very nice. wish they would build my 1...
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MH - mine costs around about £55 to fill up with Tesco 99; I have averaged 27 mpg in 4k miles, and I enjoy Sport mode whenever I can :evil: - so I don't believe you'll notice the difference in your pocket too much :cool:
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My dealer rang me today for one of his friendly updates. My BW has slipped 2 weeks after gaining a week last week. BW15 > BW14> BW16 (as of today). That's a mid April build as it stands.
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It's amazing they ever build any Rs. Iv got the same yoyo problem for my R.
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These are estimated build weeks? Its only going to prolong the agony - I would just wait for the confirmed date to appear on the tracker....
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These are estimated build weeks? Its only going to prolong the agony - I would just wait for the confirmed date to appear on the tracker....
That far ahead, it is definitely estimated. We're already in BW5 now, as per my original estimated time (BW4), mine should have been built and be sitting at Emden waiting for a ship, as it stands there's probably a further 11 weeks for build and another 3 weeks for delivery. 34 weeks for a Golf (even an R) is ridiculous. If I was in an auld crapper for the wait i'd be a bit more annoyed. I just hope my tyres are still legal for the p/x, last thing I want is to shell out for a pair of new tyres because the new one was 11 weeks late in getting here.
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These are estimated build weeks? Its only going to prolong the agony - I would just wait for the confirmed date to appear on the tracker....
That far ahead, it is definitely estimated. We're already in BW5 now, as per my original estimated time (BW4), mine should have been built and be sitting at Emden waiting for a ship, as it stands there's probably a further 11 weeks for build and another 3 weeks for delivery. 34 weeks for a Golf (even an R) is ridiculous. If I was in an auld crapper for the wait i'd be a bit more annoyed. I just hope my tyres are still legal for the p/x, last thing I want is to shell out for a pair of new tyres because the new one was 11 weeks late in getting here.
Have you not thought about trying to source one earlier MH? There must be some cancelled orders knocking around - that's how I got mine for eg. otherwise I'd be in the same boat as you. That's a ridiculously long wait :cry:
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Matchboy: I'm sure they'd shaft me on discount or p/x ( even though it's in their interests to get my p/x as soon as possible).
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Matchboy: I'm sure they'd shaft me on discount or p/x ( even though it's in their interests to get my p/x as soon as possible).
Don't be shy, give it a try :laugh: I got the same discount on mine as I did on my original order - yes, it took 4-5 hours of hard negotiation, but I'm guessing you're like me and you enjoy that part of it :smiley: Depends how desperate they are for a sale, you might be lucky like I was (I did fail on 2 or 3 before I finally got one mind!)
In any case, what else are you going to do between now and your BW :laugh:
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Matchboy: I'm sure they'd shaft me on discount or p/x ( even though it's in their interests to get my p/x as soon as possible).
Don't be shy, give it a try :laugh: I got the same discount on mine as I did on my original order - yes, it took 4-5 hours of hard negotiation, but I'm guessing you're like me and you enjoy that part of it :smiley: Depends how desperate they are for a sale, you might be lucky like I was (I did fail on 2 or 3 before I finally got one mind!)
In any case, what else are you going to do between now and your BW :laugh:
I definitely wouldn't be wanting to pay for options I didn't want because the spec is "close" to what I wanted. I've gone right off the Cadiz, so much so that I would only consider an R with Prets for a grabbable unallocated car. I'd only stomach paying for the camera (still consider it a novelty) to get my car earlier. I'd consider Lapiz or DBP, the other colours just don't do it for me on an R. I might ask the question.
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They've got a Lapiz blue r at Pulman Durham matt.
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I don't think there is any R that are spare or cancelled at the moment apart from demo cars etc. I know my local at Huntingdon are asking stupid money for a ex demo...as the dealer said "we don't need to discount as there are none out there" will hang on for my car and the decent discount I got last yr.
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Finalised my order for an R today. Estimated build week 28 (early July) which seems a very optimistic lead time of 22 weeks. Expecting that to get pushed back, no big deal as was expecting early Sept delivery anyway.
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Um mm yep very optimistic. .but fingers crossed. All depends on spec aswell
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Finalised my order for an R today. Estimated build week 28 (early July) which seems a very optimistic lead time of 22 weeks. Expecting that to get pushed back, no big deal as was expecting early Sept delivery anyway.
Bec,
You'll probably find the dealer you ordered from has such a high turnover, that they order bundles of cars continuously so they may very well be further on in the process when your order gets attached to them.
I know when I got my GTD their estimate was spot on and relatively short compared to what other folk were waiting.
Welcome to the Mk7 section officially :grin:
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Finalised my order for an R today. Estimated build week 28 (early July) which seems a very optimistic lead time of 22 weeks. Expecting that to get pushed back, no big deal as was expecting early Sept delivery anyway.
Bec,
You'll probably find the dealer you ordered from has such a high turnover, that they order bundles of cars continuously so they may very well be further on in the process when your order gets attached to them.
I know when I got my GTD their estimate was spot on and relatively short compared to what other folk were waiting.
Welcome to the Mk7 section officially :grin:
Thanks for the 'official' welcome Steven :laugh:
Yeah I was surprised at the initial estimated BW, and allowing 3 weeks from build to delivery, looking at 25 weeks. Hmm, time will tell I guess. You could be right about high turnover of cars resulting in shorter lead times.
Spoke to James at JCB today to confirm everything, really nice guy. Had a good chat and, though it's a way off yet, went over pre collection requirements. Might as well know how fussy I am from the outset :grin:
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They've got a Lapiz blue r at Pulman Durham matt.
I will ask Mick about it, if it isn't loaded to the hilt with options I don't want.
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Looks like it's a 63 plate with 10k miles on it at 30k price with leather, nav pro, maybe dcc but can't make out the pictures.
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Looks like it's a 63 plate with 10k miles on it at 30k price with leather, nav pro, maybe dcc but can't make out the pictures.
I thought you meant a new one. I wouldn't want to swap a 63 plate GTD for a 63 plate R and pay more than i'm paying for a new one (albeit with a few more toys), I can wait if that's the only other option.
I'll be asking him today (he never replied to a voicemail I sent him about 17:30 last night) if he can grab a Lapiz or DBP R in manual, with Pretorias from a cancelled order on the system. If he can then i'll tolerate paying for one or 2 very cheap options. It's in his best interests too because my fixed p/x GTD is depreciating at about £220 a month and right now i'm looking at the middle of May for delivery if it doesn't move any further.
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I definitely wouldn't be wanting to pay for options I didn't want because the spec is "close" to what I wanted. I've gone right off the Cadiz, so much so that I would only consider an R with Prets for a grabbable unallocated car. I'd only stomach paying for the camera (still consider it a novelty) to get my car earlier. I'd consider Lapiz or DBP, the other colours just don't do it for me on an R. I might ask the question.
If you're not interested in extras then yes, you may struggle to find one. I'd have never specced the camera but actually its really helpful! I know someone else has mentioned that because of the shortfall dealers are saying 'why should we discount the ones we physically have' and yes I had loads of those kinds of conversations - but persistence paid off in the end and I found a dealer who wanted a sale there and then - just lucky really. I'd certainly have a look around if I were you, if you're desperate that is - you never know :smiley:
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If you're not interested in extras then yes, you may struggle to find one. I'd have never specced the camera but actually its really helpful! I know someone else has mentioned that because of the shortfall dealers are saying 'why should we discount the ones we physically have' and yes I had loads of those kinds of conversations - but persistence paid off in the end and I found a dealer who wanted a sale there and then - just lucky really. I'd certainly have a look around if I were you, if you're desperate that is - you never know :smiley:
Well I put the question to my salesman this morning via email and he hasn't come back to me yet. I'm by no means desperate for my R, but if there's one I can have now without shelling out for £2k options I neither want nor need then i'll take it. Should be mutually beneficial - they get paid quicker, get to put my GTD up for sale quicker and I get my R quicker. Unfortunately most unallocated cars bought "for stock" usually come with about £3k of options on them. Leather is a strict no-no for me. Saw Benfield Scotswood Road's demo with vienna leather on a 64 plate and it was saggy as hell already. Maybe a few cancelled Rs going for those who were banking on the better GFVs but their dealer didn't secure them?
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If you're not interested in extras then yes, you may struggle to find one. I'd have never specced the camera but actually its really helpful! I know someone else has mentioned that because of the shortfall dealers are saying 'why should we discount the ones we physically have' and yes I had loads of those kinds of conversations - but persistence paid off in the end and I found a dealer who wanted a sale there and then - just lucky really. I'd certainly have a look around if I were you, if you're desperate that is - you never know :smiley:
Well I put the question to my salesman this morning via email and he hasn't come back to me yet. I'm by no means desperate for my R, but if there's one I can have now without shelling out for £2k options I neither want nor need then i'll take it. Should be mutually beneficial - they get paid quicker, get to put my GTD up for sale quicker and I get my R quicker. Unfortunately most unallocated cars bought "for stock" usually come with about £3k of options on them. Leather is a strict no-no for me. Saw Benfield Scotswood Road's demo with vienna leather on a 64 plate and it was saggy as hell already. Maybe a few cancelled Rs going for those who were banking on the better GFVs but their dealer didn't secure them?
I didn't even bother with my own dealer at the time - its not in his interest as he's already got an order with you. I just phoned around all the VW dealer groups in a 100 mile radius. Took some time, but I was desperate for one :grin: Yes, mine had extras on it that I wouldn't have specced, but then I haggled hard :wink: As for the leather, yes I'm not a fan of the normal leather, but mine came with the carbon nappa (which I wouldn't have specced as its so pricey) but I'm very impressed with it, much better than the leather on the mk 5 and 6 golfs. I think mine was a chap who cancelled because of a change of circumstance ie. he was getting divorced. Sad for him, but good for me :cool: (and presumably for his ex missus as well :grin:)
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Sticking with my original order. My salesman saw what stock was out there without a buyer attached, and there was only 1 Lapiz Blue 5DR in the country that had Prets.
He advised that it would be at the new price in force since Nov, the price protection applicable to my order. I couldn't remember exactly how much a 5DR R was before the price rise, but I was positive the 3dr one was £29990 RRP and it is now £30150, and the paint has gone up a fiver. So I was thinking that even if the 5DR premium had crept up by a cheeky £20, i'd be paying around £180-190 more to grab the unallocated one. My salesman said it'd be over double that.
I'd have paid up to £200 to save 10 weeks wait beyond 1st March, but £400 was more than I was prepared to pay for my impatience. I asked if he'd split it as they'd surely get £200 more for my GTD if it sold 10 weeks early, but he wasn't going for it.
He doubted the dealership that has it would be willing to give it up in a transfer anyway. So i'm waiting - gives me a few weeks to hope for the Tombstone factory to go on strike so VW are forced into putting different rubber on. :grin:
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...to hope for the Tombstone factory to go on strike so VW are forced into putting different rubber on. :grin:
You and me both, maybe a clandestine act of sabotage is in order... :whistle: :lipsrsealed:
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After what seems like ages, the wife's R is at the dealers :)
I saw the ship being unloaded on Monday, the line up of Golf R's covered in snow on Thursday at the pound in Grimsby, and it all seems a little closer. Roll on March 1st :)
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How long have you waited in the end?
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I ordered 22nd August, but it was delayed 4 weeks due to the Pretoria option allegedly.
It's worked out well, at least the winter will be out of the way :smiley:
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After what seems like ages, the wife's R is at the dealers :)
I saw the ship being unloaded on Monday, the line up of Golf R's covered in snow on Thursday at the pound in Grimsby, and it all seems a little closer. Roll on March 1st :)
Hopefully one of them is mine after receiving the update it's now sat in the uk, let's just hope they clear the snow off without scratching the car :cry:
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I moved from BW2 to BW7 (confirmed) when I added Dynaudio.
This is the second 7R I have ordered. The first one (BW39) I cancelled after it had been built as the VW Dealership were pants. I then managed to get a significantly better deal the second time around from my local VW Dealership.
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Well it's here so been to take a look !! :smiley:
Monkeyhanger before you ask, it has Bridgestone RE050 fitted to the Pretoria's :undecided:
Also noticed that although I have Cloth/Alcantara seats the centre armrest and door armrest are trimmed in Vienna leather :shocked:
Took a few photos
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Looks stunning, beautiful colour :cool:
The leather trimmed door and centre arm rest (on cloth interior) were a BW45 change I believe. Disappointing about the Bridgestones :cry:
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Looks stunning, beautiful colour :cool:
The leather trimmed door and centre arm rest (on cloth interior) were a BW45 change I believe. Disappointing about the Bridgestones :cry:
Thanks :smiley:
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Looks stunning, beautiful colour :cool:
The leather trimmed door and centre arm rest (on cloth interior) were a BW45 change I believe. Disappointing about the Bridgestones :cry:
Thanks :smiley:
Out of interest, how long was your wait from order to delivery?
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Looks stunning, beautiful colour :cool:
The leather trimmed door and centre arm rest (on cloth interior) were a BW45 change I believe. Disappointing about the Bridgestones :cry:
Mine have been fine on the prets for road use, noticed the arm rest one mrs wigit's, pitty they did not put vinyl on the rear of the front seats as well
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Looks stunning, beautiful colour :cool:
The leather trimmed door and centre arm rest (on cloth interior) were a BW45 change I believe. Disappointing about the Bridgestones :cry:
Mine have been fine on the prets for road use, noticed the arm rest one mrs wigit's, pitty they did not put vinyl on the rear of the front seats as well
Yeah, it's worth giving the Bridgestones a chance I guess. Had poor experience with them previously but not on a four wheel drive, so may be more forgiving.. I live in hope.
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more than adequate for road use, i played with the limits of the R in the wet on super sports today and can honestly i'd never get near that level of commitment on a road
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more than adequate for road use, i played with the limits of the R in the wet on super sports today and can honestly i'd never get near that level of commitment on a road
Good to know :smiley:
Yeah I see you've been having some track fun on the other thread. Is that first time tracking your R? Did it live up to expectation?
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Its been on track a few times, today was first as a stock car, in the wet the car is more predictable without the traction control as you can easily control it and get the rear to come into play
The chassis on these are so good it needs space to really enjoy them, on the road visibility and responsibility are the limiting factors
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Its been on track a few times, today was first as a stock car, in the wet the car is more predictable without the traction control as you can easily control it and get the rear to come into play
The chassis on these are so good it needs space to really enjoy them, on the road visibility and responsibility are the limiting factors
Don't tempt me. Lydden Hill circuit is only 15 mins down the road :wink:
Does Mrs W indulge in track?
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Mrs W would if it was a private test track and Jason Plato was giving her tuition
There is something amusing when you turn up in s standard road car (no map at moment) admittedly 4wd in the rain and in the wet are 10 seconds clear of anything else over a lap, especially when some of those are more exotic, R was actually quicker on a wet track
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She doesn't want much then :grin:
Amusing is probably an understatement, must have been a rather satisfying day out for you. 10 secs clear in the wet :shocked:
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Looking good JB GTI! STill about 11 weeks realistically before i'll be in mine, thanks to VW UK seemingly classing my slight alteration to Prets as a whole new order to start the count again from Dec 4th (original order accepted by the factory on Sept 24th).
Hopefully the 4WD will mitigate the Bridgestones somewhat. The RE050s are softer tyres than the S001, so should wear out more quickly, if that's consolation! :grin:
I wonder why VW decided to ditch the cloth on the door cards and centre armrest? Leather as standard coming soon? Any new GTDs and GTIs coming through also with the leather (ish) door cards and armrest?
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Looks stunning, beautiful colour :cool:
The leather trimmed door and centre arm rest (on cloth interior) were a BW45 change I believe. Disappointing about the Bridgestones :cry:
Thanks :smiley:
Out of interest, how long was your wait from order to delivery?
About 12 weeks but I seem to have got lucky compared to Monkeyhanger as I managed to doctor a vanilla 3dr DSG in the right colour and reconfigure it to my ideal spec without it affecting the build date. When we first looked at it in its basic form it was estimated bw51 and didn't change after the changes were made when it went to confirmed bw51. With Christmas I think it probably slipped a couple of weeks as it left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at the dealers off site pdi centre/storage site on 21st Jan.
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Out of interest, how long was your wait from order to delivery?
About 12 weeks but I seem to have got lucky compared to Monkeyhanger as I managed to doctor a vanilla 3dr DSG in the right colour and reconfigure it to my ideal spec without it affecting the build date. When we first looked at it in its basic form it was estimated bw51 and didn't change after the changes were made when it went to confirmed bw51. With Christmas I think it probably slipped a couple of weeks as it left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at the dealers off site pdi centre/storage site on 21st Jan.
Thanks. Did you manage to get a cancelled order slot maybe?? When you actually collecting it then?
I'm looking at 25 weeks give or take whatever, who knows? :laugh: But I had factored that kind of wait in when deciding when to place order, so ok with me.
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Out of interest, how long was your wait from order to delivery?
About 12 weeks but I seem to have got lucky compared to Monkeyhanger as I managed to doctor a vanilla 3dr DSG in the right colour and reconfigure it to my ideal spec without it affecting the build date. When we first looked at it in its basic form it was estimated bw51 and didn't change after the changes were made when it went to confirmed bw51. With Christmas I think it probably slipped a couple of weeks as it left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at the dealers off site pdi centre/storage site on 21st Jan.
Thanks. Did you manage to get a cancelled order slot maybe?? When you actually collecting it then?
I'm looking at 25 weeks give or take whatever, who knows? :laugh: But I had factored that kind of wait in when deciding when to place order, so ok with me.
It might have been a cancelled order I'm not sure. All I know is when the salesman looked it was in the system as unallocated and had not been confirmed build so he called VW UK to check whether altering the spec would have a detrimental effect on the build date got the good news and bagged it using my details. I believe it was due to go to another branch of my dealer group so that probably helped :undecided:
Picking it up start of March. Not long now !!
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About 12 weeks but I seem to have got lucky compared to Monkeyhanger as I managed to doctor a vanilla 3dr DSG in the right colour and reconfigure it to my ideal spec without it affecting the build date. When we first looked at it in its basic form it was estimated bw51 and didn't change after the changes were made when it went to confirmed bw51. With Christmas I think it probably slipped a couple of weeks as it left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at the dealers off site pdi centre/storage site on 21st Jan.
This seems very strange...
Your dealer was able to reconfigure an existing order, asking for far more changes than mine and it didn't affect the build date, and my dealer can't do the same?
I'm really starting to think my dealer has kept my old order going as it was (Lapiz vanilla R on Cadiz) for stock and ordered me a whole new car, transferring my tracker code to the new car. That way they get to keep the order for my old car pricelocked at pre-Nov price rise.
Was your car originally ordered after the pricerise (Nov 4th), and so has no potential pricelock isses with changing spec?
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About 12 weeks but I seem to have got lucky compared to Monkeyhanger as I managed to doctor a vanilla 3dr DSG in the right colour and reconfigure it to my ideal spec without it affecting the build date. When we first looked at it in its basic form it was estimated bw51 and didn't change after the changes were made when it went to confirmed bw51. With Christmas I think it probably slipped a couple of weeks as it left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at the dealers off site pdi centre/storage site on 21st Jan.
This seems very strange...
Your dealer was able to reconfigure an existing order, asking for far more changes than mine and it didn't affect the build date, and my dealer can't do the same?
I'm really starting to think my dealer has kept my old order going as it was (Lapiz vanilla R on Cadiz) for stock and ordered me a whole new car, transferring my tracker code to the new car. That way they get to keep the order for my old car pricelocked at pre-Nov price rise.
Was your car originally ordered after the pricerise (Nov 4th), and so has no potential pricelock isses with changing spec?
Monkeyhanger, you must be less than impressed if that is the case with your order :sad: Have you asked your dealer why your order went through as a whole new order in Dec or are they likely to plead ignorance?
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About 12 weeks but I seem to have got lucky compared to Monkeyhanger as I managed to doctor a vanilla 3dr DSG in the right colour and reconfigure it to my ideal spec without it affecting the build date. When we first looked at it in its basic form it was estimated bw51 and didn't change after the changes were made when it went to confirmed bw51. With Christmas I think it probably slipped a couple of weeks as it left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at the dealers off site pdi centre/storage site on 21st Jan.
This seems very strange...
Your dealer was able to reconfigure an existing order, asking for far more changes than mine and it didn't affect the build date, and my dealer can't do the same?
I'm really starting to think my dealer has kept my old order going as it was (Lapiz vanilla R on Cadiz) for stock and ordered me a whole new car, transferring my tracker code to the new car. That way they get to keep the order for my old car pricelocked at pre-Nov price rise.
Was your car originally ordered after the pricerise (Nov 4th), and so has no potential pricelock isses with changing spec?
Monkeyhanger, you must be less than impressed if that is the case with your order :sad: Have you asked your dealer why your order went through as a whole new order in Dec or are they likely to plead ignorance?
I haven't asked them yet, but chances are I will be told "that's how VW UK handle modified orders, honest guv..." :grin:.
At the end of the day they're getting no more money out of me than already agreed and my GTD with the fixed p/x will be worth £500-600 less to them when they get their hands on it to sell :evil:. Might pop down a few days before March 1st and see if they have a Vanilla Manual Lapiz R in. I could've been tempted to take the Cadiz equipped Lapiz R if they do actually have one, but for now being in the GTD isn't exactly slumming it. If they'd been prolonging the agony while driving in an old crap box I might've felt differently. :grin:
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Monkeyhanger, you must be less than impressed if that is the case with your order :sad: Have you asked your dealer why your order went through as a whole new order in Dec or are they likely to plead ignorance?
I haven't asked them yet, but chances are I will be told "that's how VW UK handle modified orders, honest guv..." :grin:.
At the end of the day they're getting no more money out of me than already agreed and my GTD with the fixed p/x will be worth £500-600 less to them when they get their hands on it to sell :evil:. Might pop down a few days before March 1st and see if they have a Vanilla Manual Lapiz R in. I could've been tempted to take the Cadiz equipped Lapiz R if they do actually have one, but for now being in the GTD isn't exactly slumming it. If they'd been prolonging the agony while driving in an old crap box I might've felt differently. :grin:
Yeah a few extra weeks in a GTD is no great hardship, and the wait might make finally getting the R all the sweeter
...until you see it shod with Bridgestones :grin: :evil:
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About 12 weeks but I seem to have got lucky compared to Monkeyhanger as I managed to doctor a vanilla 3dr DSG in the right colour and reconfigure it to my ideal spec without it affecting the build date. When we first looked at it in its basic form it was estimated bw51 and didn't change after the changes were made when it went to confirmed bw51. With Christmas I think it probably slipped a couple of weeks as it left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at the dealers off site pdi centre/storage site on 21st Jan.
This seems very strange...
Your dealer was able to reconfigure an existing order, asking for far more changes than mine and it didn't affect the build date, and my dealer can't do the same?
I'm really starting to think my dealer has kept my old order going as it was (Lapiz vanilla R on Cadiz) for stock and ordered me a whole new car, transferring my tracker code to the new car. That way they get to keep the order for my old car pricelocked at pre-Nov price rise.
Was your car originally ordered after the pricerise (Nov 4th), and so has no potential pricelock isses with changing spec?
Not sure on that one. Personally, I would have thought it was before the price rise as I took over the order about the third week of Nov.
It does seem strange how your order has been spannered so badly just by changing the wheels.
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...until you see it shod with Bridgestones :grin: :evil:
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Just been for a sneaky peak of mine today, and guess what? Shod in bridgestones
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Just been for a sneaky peak of mine today, and guess what? Shod in bridgestones
Oh well :undecided: Are you going to stick with them? It'd be a bit of a knee jerk reaction to get rid without giving them a chance, see how they perform with 4WD. Wigit seems to think they're ok on the R and he usually talks sense. If you do stick with them, let us know your thoughts once you got the car and put some miles on it. :smiley:
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Well it's here so been to take a look !! :smiley:
Monkeyhanger before you ask, it has Bridgestone RE050 fitted to the Pretoria's :undecided:
Also noticed that although I have Cloth/Alcantara seats the centre armrest and door armrest are trimmed in Vienna leather :shocked:
Never mind the Bridgestone's JB your car is making me drool. Looks fantastic in Lapis Blue! My favourite colour. Reminds me of my old Scirocco in Rising Blue. Enjoy matey.
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Well it's here so been to take a look !! :smiley:
Monkeyhanger before you ask, it has Bridgestone RE050 fitted to the Pretoria's :undecided:
Also noticed that although I have Cloth/Alcantara seats the centre armrest and door armrest are trimmed in Vienna leather :shocked:
Never mind the Bridgestone's JB your car is making me drool. Looks fantastic in Lapis Blue! My favourite colour. Reminds me of my old Scirocco in Rising Blue. Enjoy matey.
I had a Rising Blue Scirocco too. I loved that colour although it seems very light blue now compared to the Lapiz Blue :smiley:
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Just been for a sneaky peak of mine today, and guess what? Shod in bridgestones
Oh well :undecided: Are you going to stick with them? It'd be a bit of a knee jerk reaction to get rid without giving them a chance, see how they perform with 4WD. Wigit seems to think they're ok on the R and he usually talks sense. If you do stick with them, let us know your thoughts once you got the car and put some miles on it. :smiley:
Funnily enough that's exactly what the dealership said, so will give them a try and see how they get on. nothing like seeing your order in the flesh though
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Just been for a sneaky peak of mine today, and guess what? Shod in bridgestones
Oh well :undecided: Are you going to stick with them? It'd be a bit of a knee jerk reaction to get rid without giving them a chance, see how they perform with 4WD. Wigit seems to think they're ok on the R and he usually talks sense. If you do stick with them, let us know your thoughts once you got the car and put some miles on it. :smiley:
Funnily enough that's exactly what the dealership said, so will give them a try and see how they get on. nothing like seeing your order in the flesh though
It is fatal going to see them. That's why I held off until last week. Mine arrived towards the end of January and if I had seen it earlier it would have seemed an eternity to wait. I can cope with a couple of weeks :grin:
On another point there seems to be a fair few of us who have jumped or about to jump ship to the R It would be a good idea maybe for the mods to create a "social Leper" sticky section within the Mk7 board for the Mk 7 R ???
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They might just be doable on an R with 4WD, they'd be ruinous on a GTI/GTD. Best to get a feel for them now while you can still experience a cold morning to see how they perform in the cold and the wet (although my S001, a different tyre, supposedly better than the RE050 is crap on a warm wet summer's day also, albeit with 4WD). By the time my R comes, the weather will have warmed right up.
If the dealerships recognise them as a crap tyre then some feedback should be getting back to VW about them. What are they thinking, putting a tyre that has an official wet grip rating of "C" on an R? Sharp suit with white plastic trainers! :shocked:
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Might make an impromptu phonecall to my dealer as a potential customer to see if they have any Rs in - just to see if my original order Cadiz shod Lapiz R is there as general stock.
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Might make an impromptu phonecall to my dealer as a potential customer to see if they have any Rs in - just to see if my original order Cadiz shod Lapiz R is there as general stock.
Remember to withhold your number then :laugh: otherwise that would be an epic fail :whistle:
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On another point there seems to be a fair few of us who have jumped or about to jump ship to the R It would be a good idea maybe for the mods to create a "social Leper" sticky section within the Mk7 board for the Mk 7 R ???
I was thinking the same thing recently, but didn't want to mention it as a mere GTI owner wanting to drive the Uber hatch owners away. More of a point to keep the members here on this forum that appreciate the R for what it is (a Golf), so R specific topics could be kept R, and general stuff could be kept within the main mk7 forum (as seems to work well for the TDI section).
That will keep everything under one umbrella but relevant information for specific models would be in sub-sections so easier to find and keep on topic.
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On another point there seems to be a fair few of us who have jumped or about to jump ship to the R It would be a good idea maybe for the mods to create a "social Leper" sticky section within the Mk7 board for the Mk 7 R ???
I was thinking the same thing recently, but didn't want to mention it as a mere GTI owner wanting to drive the Uber hatch owners away. More of a point to keep the members here on this forum that appreciate the R for what it is (a Golf), so R specific topics could be kept R, and general stuff could be kept within the main mk7 forum (as seems to work well for the TDI section).
That will keep everything under one umbrella but relevant information for specific models would be in sub-sections so easier to find and keep on topic.
Exactly what I meant but more eloquently put :wink:
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On another point there seems to be a fair few of us who have jumped or about to jump ship to the R It would be a good idea maybe for the mods to create a "social Leper" sticky section within the Mk7 board for the Mk 7 R ???
Makes sense, don't want to bore the GTI owners to death with R talk and will be easier to find specific R related topics/chat. Although that said, I think one of the strengths of this forum is the relatively free interaction of members across sections and the forum as a whole. :smiley:
Might make an impromptu phonecall to my dealer as a potential customer to see if they have any Rs in - just to see if my original order Cadiz shod Lapiz R is there as general stock.
Yes it could be sitting in the showroom attracting admiring glances as you speak :undecided:
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Well, my GTI has gone :cry:
I have GTD to play in for a week as my GTI has been sold already.
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Mine has been stuck for the last 10 days at Emden.
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Mine has been stuck for the last 10 days at Emden.
They made a mistake at build and so they're swapping your Conti 5s for S(lippery)001s at portside.
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Mine has been stuck for the last 10 days at Emden.
They made a mistake at build and so they're swapping your Conti 5s for S(lippery)001s at portside.
Ha, ha. Your wickedness will be paid in full. But they will be better than the RE050 tyres that yours will come with. :evil:
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Well It didn't end up being 31 weeks after all !! :wink:
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Wow it looks stunning, I bet you can't wait to drive it.
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Just out of interest how many weeks did it take in the end, it might give me a better idea when mine will be delivered.
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Just out of interest how many weeks did it take in the end, it might give me a better idea when mine will be delivered.
The car was already in the system albeit with a completely different spec and scheduled for build Week 51. I took over the order and reconfigured the spec and got a tracker number on 12th Nov. it was built and left the factory on 9th Jan and arrived at dealer 21st Jan
So I waited around 12 weeks from when I ordered but have no idea how long it had already been in the system before that :huh:
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Mine was built in the same week as yours.I pick it up tomorrow at 8.30.
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....... And 2 weeks stuck in Emden waiting for a barge to bring it to Sheerness.
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Mine was built in the same week as yours.I pick it up tomorrow at 8.30.
Enjoy :smiley:
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....... And 2 weeks stuck in Emden waiting for a barge to bring it to Sheerness.
That sucks :evil:
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Mine has been stuck for the last 10 days at Emden.
That brings back memorys of my mk6 order mine was stuck for 3 weeks :sad:
Not long now then.
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Mine has been stuck for the last 10 days at Emden.
That brings back memorys of my mk6 order mine was stuck for 3 weeks :sad:
Not long now then.
As of today it will be 2 weeks.
I think I'll just drink myself into a stupor. :cry:
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Well It didn't end up being 31 weeks after all !! :wink:
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Looking at that pic is reassuring me that suffering a 10 week extra wait (anticipated delivery time, never wanted it before new plate day) for Pretorias looks to be well worth it when they are paired with Lapiz. :smiley:
So what tyres did it come with?
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Here's my loaner the dealer gave to use for the last week. It's got the Sport & Sound pack and sounds like a Subaru Boxer engine from inside :laugh:
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Here's my loaner the dealer gave to use for the last week. It's got the Sport & Sound pack and sounds like a Subaru Boxer engine from inside :laugh:
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Prefer your R. Didn't you say previously it came with Bridgestone RE050's?
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Here's my loaner the dealer gave to use for the last week. It's got the Sport & Sound pack and sounds like a Subaru Boxer engine from inside :laugh:
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Prefer your R. Didn't you say previously it came with Bridgestone RE050's?
Yes. :undecided: time will tell !!
And guess what are on the Santiago's..........Pirelli P Zero Rosso's :lipsrsealed:
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Prefer your R. Didn't you say previously it came with Bridgestone RE050's?
Yes. :undecided: time will tell !!
And guess what are on the Santiago's..........Pirelli P Zero Rosso's :lipsrsealed:
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Dry grip won't be a bother with 4WD on RE050 i'm sure, but wet grip/traction will likely leave them a huge liability if you fling the R around a bit Almost tempted to buy a set of Uniroyal Rainsport 3s, they're £95 each + a bit of postage or £115 each mobile fitted in R19 235/35 XL 91Y at tyretraders right now. They don't last a hell of a long time, but they have pretty much unbeatable wet grip even if Michelin PSS and Conti 5s will outdo them in the dry for 1.5x the price.
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A beast (with a small b)
Finally it's here!
Longest 5 months of my life.
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Looks a Beauty with a capital B.
Congrats!
Mk7's just look so good in white.
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Agreed, the R looks great in white. Have also seen one in night blue and limestone grey recently and both looked very nice especially the night blue
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Looking Good AndyG :cool:
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Looks amazing! I'm so jealous. My GTI won't be here until June I think and I don't think I'm going to be able to last. Ha have fun in it!!!
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A beast (with a small b)
Finally it's here!
Longest 5 months of my life.
Looks lovely, white really suits the the R and best colour for showing off the black detail to max impact :cool:
I'm sure it was worth the long wait. Only 4/5 months to go now till I get mine :laugh:
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Loving that R AndyG. So glad you kept the boggo wheels :laugh: I think they look the biz!
I'm resisting the urge to switch. Would lose a heap of dosh which would be better placed going towards the next motor.
Enjoy
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Thanks people.
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Cars look awesome guys!! They'll be even better once you're behind the wheel! :evil: :cool:
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It arrived at the Dealership today. Looks pristine, though covered with Transport Cladding. Red looks great.
PDI on Monday, then to the Detailer, then its all mine.
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Red does look good on them. One drove past me the other night. I think it was the one owned by DTUK
Bet you cannot wait.
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Red does look good on them. One drove past me the other night. I think it was the one owned by DTUK
Bet you cannot wait.
Not excited at all unfortunately. The Dealership is a 15 minute walk from my home and I could not be bothered to have a look. Was totally excited when I got the BMW. Will miss it hugely, but not its size. IMO the Golf is no looker and nowhere as good looking as a 330d M Sport in Estoril Blue with Coral Red Leather. A veritable Superman.
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Can any of you that have recently picked up a Golf R just take a look under the bonnet. Not sure if mine is missing a cover over what I think is the ECU. My GTI PP had a metal cover fitted over the top.
It is the bit in between the Battery and Fuse box.
Just looks a bit vulnerable compared to my GTI :embarrassed:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image.jpg2_zpsh8zg3osb.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image.jpg2_zpsh8zg3osb.jpg.html)
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image.jpg3_zpsjiwvwcqt.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image.jpg3_zpsjiwvwcqt.jpg.html)
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(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o539/andypgill/4AAC9910-9CC7-4D9F-8C13-3A468F1907B1_zpsld4ttmvi.jpg) (http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/andypgill/media/4AAC9910-9CC7-4D9F-8C13-3A468F1907B1_zpsld4ttmvi.jpg.html)
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o539/andypgill/44489C19-942F-45CE-BB2A-7481FB266E09_zpsuxkze9js.jpg) (http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/andypgill/media/44489C19-942F-45CE-BB2A-7481FB266E09_zpsuxkze9js.jpg.html)
Looks same as mine.
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Thanks AndyG
Looks like a cost saving measure now then :rolleyes:
Btw I am not sad enough to think it is down to weight saving lol :laugh:
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Ordered Oct. Build week this week after yoyo for months. Check last night still showing as build wk confirmed.
checked this morn now says "in transit"