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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jimmymature on 19 October 2014, 15:06
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Hi gents, plans have changed for me a new car is on the cards. This looks too good to be true?
http://www.freedomcontracts.com/Volkswagen-Golf-2.0-TSI-R-2014-5Dr-300-BHP---Oct-Deal-Business-Lease/1060
Any views?
Jim
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Looks like a good deal. If you have a look at Golf R forum.co.uk there are other good deals on there.
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Looks like a fantastic deal problem I have is I would need to PX mine and that's not an option on lease deals
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I'd just wait and buy one outright at 2 years old, for about 50p!! :rolleyes: my brother might be ordering a GTD next weekend, might see what deal they'll do if i order a GTI as well? Ya know.... Just to be a bit different!! :whistle:
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I'd just wait and buy one outright at 2 years old, for about 50p!! :rolleyes: my brother might be ordering a GTD next weekend, might see what deal they'll do if i order a GTI as well? Ya know.... Just to be a bit different!! :whistle:
50p lol, you seen the Mk6 R used prices? The world's gone mad!
Jim
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I'd just wait and buy one outright at 2 years old, for about 50p!! :rolleyes: my brother might be ordering a GTD next weekend, might see what deal they'll do if i order a GTI as well? Ya know.... Just to be a bit different!! :whistle:
50p lol, you seen the Mk6 R used prices? The world's gone mad!
Jim
Yeah but the mk6 R are few and far between which is what holds the values up, the mk7 R is going to be way too common for that, these lease deals are going to flood the market with them in a couple of years, i still to this day rarely see a mk6 but i see at least 2-3 mk7's a week, your right the world has gone mad! :grin:
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Jim
Yeah but the mk6 R are few and far between which is what holds the values up, the mk7 R is going to be way too common for that, these lease deals are going to flood the market with them in a couple of years.
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Plentiful supply is fine if the demand is there. GFV for a GTI is as low as VW will want it - low depreciation is a major factor for many to buy a VW over the competition (seeing as they're pretty average on the reliability front these days). The R should always command significantly more money than the GTI, being 80PS up, better brakes (same as PP), 4WD - people will pay extra for that. The GTI is better on the juice, not so much so that buying an R over a GTI will really punish you at the pumps.
It's easy to see these lease deals and imagine thousands of them being made as a result, rather than hundreds. Spread them out between all the VW dealers in the country and it's not quite so dramatic as it first seems. While VW are making people wait 6 months for an R/GTD/GTI, the used market will always be healthy, fuelling the demand for those who can't be arsed to wait 6 months for one, or maybe their finances won't quite stretch to a new one.
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You're probably right but it does annoy me that there are so many around compared to the 6 and thats just what i've seen with my own eyes. :sad: Just makes ownership a little less special imo.
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You're probably right but it does annoy me that there are so many around compared to the 6 and thats just what i've seen with my own eyes. :sad: Just makes ownership a little less special imo.
I haven't seen many yet, but maybe that's because they don't stand out if you're not specifically looking out for the tailpipes, Cadiz wheels or Lapiz blue. Tons of GTIs and GTDs around Newcastle and North Tyneside, not so many Rs (that i've seen). The glowing reviews will have plenty who are not VW fanboys looking to get one, new or used. In 10 years time, early MK7 Rs might become the Charva car of choice (like old Scoobys are right now), but we've got a while yet.
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[/quote]It's easy to see these lease deals and imagine thousands of them being made as a result, rather than hundreds. Spread them out between all the VW dealers in the country and it's not quite so dramatic as it first seems. While VW are making people wait 6 months for an R/GTD/GTI, the used market will always be healthy, fuelling the demand for those who can't be arsed to wait 6 months for one, or maybe their finances won't quite stretch to a new one.
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You mean those who own an R have nothing to fear in the used market. I recently recall reading something saying that us GTI owners are fecked however :whistle: :whistle:
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Go for it Jim, as said, check out the R forum for the deals going as last time I was over there (admittedly a while ago) there were threads and threads on the subject.
Why buy when you can lease for peanuts? Judging by the amount of press these deals have received and wider public awareness thanks to hotukdeals etc it's possible history is in the making here in the way this type of car has become as affordable as something quite mundane to the masses. Maybe leasing will become the norm in coming years or maybe VW will get a nasty shock in a couple of years?!!! The latter unlikely!
With these deals the R is now in the public eye just like the M135i bargains of last year. These hyper hatches have become the new GTIs and alas I think it is that car which will currently fall off the radar in the uk at least for most buyers. The R sold very few in mk6 guise and now commands a big premium hence VW's high GMFV in the 7R. The 7R has now got a status a bit like the ED30 did and the GTI (which over performed in all the road tests before the R was launched) has now slipped almost as quietly into the background as the mk6 GTI did in sales which were never anywhere near as strong as mk5 GTI sales.
As monkeyhanger says, VW know they can sell as many as they make but they won't make as many as they can sell thus keeping values up secondhand.
I think it's more us GTI owners that will have resale concerns more than anything if the R becomes too popular. The R is bringing in people that are new to the brand so VW will need to make sure the quality on them is good as many will be downsizers from more premium brands and many will be people that would never have been able to afford a £30k car if it wasn't for these leases.
As for the GTI? Well, it's a Golf so *should* do ok with resale values, but not as well as a mk5 or mk6 in their day.
The long and short of it is everyone should lease an R while the going is good - fill yer boots!
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You mean those who own an R have nothing to fear in the used market. I recently recall reading something saying that us GTI owners are fecked however :whistle: :whistle:
All the more reason to get an order in for an R. :grin:
Maybe VW are in league with the oil sheiks to get us all doing fewer mpg? There's a fair few of us GTDers saying balls to the mpg.
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Blimey MH, you're not in leagues with VW drumming up R sales for VW are you? :grin:
At this rate you'll have even me in getting 7R PCP quotes before my first service at this rate and I've always been the most anti car finance person going!!!
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Are the lead times still something like 24 weeks.
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Are the lead times still something like 24 weeks.
Some people are seeing their planned build week slip 6 weeks apparently. I don't know what my BW is supposed to be, I just told my dealer I didn't want it until 01 March on the 15 plate and i've left them alone. Maybe i'll get it mid April? :rolleyes:
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Are the lead times still something like 24 weeks.
Some people are seeing their planned build week slip 6 weeks apparently. I don't know what my BW is supposed to be, I just told my dealer I didn't want it until 01 March on the 15 plate and i've left them alone. Maybe i'll get it mid April? :rolleyes:
I think you should bite the bullet MH and give VWCS a call - I can't believe your restraint at not knowing what BW they've given you :grin: Also, given you ordered just after me, I'd be interested to see how our BWs differ - I have a BW of 9 - that's a 7 month wait :rolleyes:
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Are the lead times still something like 24 weeks.
Some people are seeing their planned build week slip 6 weeks apparently. I don't know what my BW is supposed to be, I just told my dealer I didn't want it until 01 March on the 15 plate and i've left them alone. Maybe i'll get it mid April? :rolleyes:
I think you should bite the bullet MH and give VWCS a call - I can't believe your restraint at not knowing what BW they've given you :grin: Also, given you ordered just after me, I'd be interested to see how our BWs differ - I have a BW of 9 - that's a 7 month wait :rolleyes:
A 7 month wait :rolleyes: :rolleyes:. That's a killer. If i were to upgrade i would definitely be asking if there were any cancelled orders floating about in the system. I just could not wait that long
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I got in touch with Lee (evo1986) from the forums and he's given me a great deal! I just need to sort a few things out then I think I'll be going with Lee's deal.
Jim
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A 7 month wait :rolleyes: :rolleyes:. That's a killer. If i were to upgrade i would definitely be asking if there were any cancelled orders floating about in the system. I just could not wait that long
Oh, trust me, I'm still keeping my eyes out for cancelled/demos not yet registered. I'm impatient at the best of times, but 7 months is ridiculous. I'll wait if I have to, but if something else comes along I'll be cancelling and taking a car I can get my hands on immediately. Unfortunately, this involves phoning dealers and asking to know what stock they have as you can only search for 'used' cars on t'internet - its a tedious process but hopefully it will pay off :grin: if not, it gives me something to do until April 2015 :laugh:
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Are the lead times still something like 24 weeks.
Some people are seeing their planned build week slip 6 weeks apparently. I don't know what my BW is supposed to be, I just told my dealer I didn't want it until 01 March on the 15 plate and i've left them alone. Maybe i'll get it mid April? :rolleyes:
I think you should bite the bullet MH and give VWCS a call - I can't believe your restraint at not knowing what BW they've given you :grin: Also, given you ordered just after me, I'd be interested to see how our BWs differ - I have a BW of 9 - that's a 7 month wait :rolleyes:
I'll give them a ring tomorrow, more for your curiosity than mine. :whistle: March pick-up will be nice, definitely don't want it before the new plate.
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I'll give them a ring tomorrow, more for your curiosity than mine. :whistle: March pick-up will be nice, definitely don't want it before the new plate.
Do it now :evil: :laugh:
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At this rate you'll have even me in getting 7R PCP quotes before my first service at this rate and I've always been the most anti car finance person going!!!
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Probably no more than me. Tempting as these deals might sound, it wouldn't do for me as there will be a decision that HAS to be made at the end of the term. Then there are potential excess mileage penalties, and I've heard tales of customers being billed lots of money to fix minor stone chips and such like when they go back.
From what I have read, lots of people spend countless hours researching which car and what deal to have to finance it soon after getting the keys to their current one. I'm sure that if all that time and effort were chargeable, they would earn enough money to buy the thing outright and be done with it.
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At this rate you'll have even me in getting 7R PCP quotes before my first service at this rate and I've always been the most anti car finance person going!!!
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Probably no more than me. Tempting as these deals might sound, it wouldn't do for me as there will be a decision that HAS to be made at the end of the term. Then there are potential excess mileage penalties, and I've heard tales of customers being billed lots of money to fix minor stone chips and such like when they go back.
From what I have read, lots of people spend countless hours researching which car and what deal to have to finance it soon after getting the keys to their current one. I'm sure that if all that time and effort were chargeable, they would earn enough money to buy the thing outright and be done with it.
I used to think exactly the same way as you but in two years I'd have paid £4k in leasing and handed the car back, but if I bought one I'd lose £6k just on VAT! There's no way I could buy an R then sell it two years later for £26k!
Jim
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Putting it that way, it would be viable to tuck my current Golf up for a couple of years, hoon around in an .:R for sh!ts and giggles, give it back and I'd still have a nice, low mileage GT to ride around in at the end. Except my Golf has too many pedals for my liking and really ought to go whilst it's still worth a reasonable amount of money.
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At this rate you'll have even me in getting 7R PCP quotes before my first service at this rate and I've always been the most anti car finance person going!!!
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Probably no more than me. Tempting as these deals might sound, it wouldn't do for me as there will be a decision that HAS to be made at the end of the term. Then there are potential excess mileage penalties, and I've heard tales of customers being billed lots of money to fix minor stone chips and such like when they go back.
From what I have read, lots of people spend countless hours researching which car and what deal to have to finance it soon after getting the keys to their current one. I'm sure that if all that time and effort were chargeable, they would earn enough money to buy the thing outright and be done with it.
I used to think exactly the same way as you but in two years I'd have paid £4k in leasing and handed the car back, but if I bought one I'd lose £6k just on VAT! There's no way I could buy an R then sell it two years later for £26k!
Jim
£4k in leasing? It'll cost you more than that all in (deposit, arrangement fees etc), closer to £7k. If you've got the cash, expect £1k more than GFV in px and get 12% discount, you can just about beat the lease deal by buying. It gets better on those terms if you have to get a few options, it's completely dead money in leasing, but you'll get a bit back for them on your bought one.
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That's good to hear Monkeyhanger, reading about lease deals had me worried I made the wrong choice going PCP route.
Looking for some equity at the end of 3 years to put on the next car :smiley:
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At this rate you'll have even me in getting 7R PCP quotes before my first service at this rate and I've always been the most anti car finance person going!!!
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Probably no more than me. Tempting as these deals might sound, it wouldn't do for me as there will be a decision that HAS to be made at the end of the term. Then there are potential excess mileage penalties, and I've heard tales of customers being billed lots of money to fix minor stone chips and such like when they go back.
From what I have read, lots of people spend countless hours researching which car and what deal to have to finance it soon after getting the keys to their current one. I'm sure that if all that time and effort were chargeable, they would earn enough money to buy the thing outright and be done with it.
I used to think exactly the same way as you but in two years I'd have paid £4k in leasing and handed the car back, but if I bought one I'd lose £6k just on VAT! There's no way I could buy an R then sell it two years later for £26k!
Jim
£4k in leasing? It'll cost you more than that all in (deposit, arrangement fees etc), closer to £7k. If you've got the cash, expect £1k more than GFV in px and get 12% discount, you can just about beat the lease deal by buying. It gets better on those terms if you have to get a few options, it's completely dead money in leasing, but you'll get a bit back for them on your bought one.
That's true, £6k in total including the deposit, but that £6k is less that I'd lose by buying one and id also have to trump up £30k!
I'll be selling mine privately so I won't lose anything in PX.
Still can't see a downside to all these cheap lease deals...
Jim
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Since I'm bored on night shift at work I've thrown a few figures together.
From that leasing link above:
Deposit: 2400
Payments: 179.98 x 24
Total cost £6,719
From the VW site PCP:
Deposit: 2400
Payments 437.25 x 23
Total cost £12,456
Cost of ownership over 2 years without any discount
Lease PCP
£6,719 £12,456
So far better off going lease as you would have to make about £6000 in equity on your PCP at the end of the 24 months to be the same as a lease and that ain't going to happen.
If you go via drive the deal you can get £3745 off list price which if you add to the £2400 deposit you would be paying anyway gives you an equivalent of £6145 as a deposit on a full price R on the VW site.
This gives you
Deposit: 6145 (3745 discount + 2400)
Payments 263.93 x 23
Total cost £8470
So going with a decent discount from say Drivethedeal after 2 years you would have paid £8470 so to equal the lease price you would have to have equity of £1751 on your R after 24 months!
Is that going to happen? Its certainly a lot more achievable than without a discount.
My experience with PcP's is they offer you not an awful lot more than your GFV though.
Even if they offered you £2000 as equity you have really only gained £250 over the lease deal.
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P3asa: The sums to buy rather than lease make more sense on a standard R (no extras) if you're a cash buyer - solutions interest is a killer (about 1/3 of your monthly payments are interest on a car with great residuals), and I usually expect £1000 more than the published GFV in p/x as well as the discount I negotiate (any extra equity usually comes at the cost of discount against the new one:-
£29990 base 3dr car cost - £3745 DTD discount = £26245
GFV (£20772) + £1000 "equity" = £21772
Cost in depreciation = £4473 total = £186.38 per month (equal split of total over 24 months).
If you had £26245 sitting in the bank it would've earned (@ 3% interest) £1598.32, so the true cost of being a cash buyer is £6071.32 total, or £252.98 per month (equal split of total over 24 months).
There's only £700 in it (and you do have to have the money in the bank to do it), but you have greater flexibility over how long you're keeping it and you won't get screwed over for punitive charges on a few stone chips or not enough tread left on the tyres (which may or may not happen).
Assuming that you will hit the dealer for a broker sized deal:-
If you have the money in the bank then it's slightly better to buy (on a base model) than lease.
If you don't have the money in the bank then it's probably better to lease (on a base model).
If you're ordering £3k worth of extras it's far better to buy cash than lease and a little better to PCP than lease.
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I'll give them a ring tomorrow, more for your curiosity than mine. :whistle: March pick-up will be nice, definitely don't want it before the new plate.
Do it now :evil: :laugh:
Just for you matchboy, I rang them up and have been given a provisional BW4, which is currently subject to change but will be confirmed/locked in about a months time. Had to endure about 10 mins of dodgy Spanish guitar music to find that out. :sick:
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I'll give them a ring tomorrow, more for your curiosity than mine. :whistle: March pick-up will be nice, definitely don't want it before the new plate.
Do it now :evil: :laugh:
Just for you matchboy, I rang them up and have been given a provisional BW4, which is currently subject to change but will be confirmed/locked in about a months time. Had to endure about 10 mins of dodgy Spanish guitar music to find that out. :sick:
:grin: Awesome! We are BW friends, I'm also BW4 :cool:
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Matchboy: 19" rubber and no DCC? Slightly tempted by the Pretorias, but never had a drive on a 19" wheeled GTI/D/R without DCC to know if the ride is significantly harsher. Shouldn't piss about with my order now, should I?
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Matchboy: 19" rubber and no DCC? Slightly tempted by the Pretorias, but never had a drive on a 19" wheeled GTI/D/R without DCC to know if the ride is significantly harsher. Shouldn't piss about with my order now, should I?
All ready on 19s and the ride is absolutely fine, I don't even notice it tbh. I'm sure its harder than one on 18s, but its not a bone shaker (like for eg. a M135i on 18s which was harsh!) - so its something I wouldn't use nor need - the standard set up on the mk7 is excellent IMO. But everyone is different!
No, you probably shouldn't change your order - however I'm considering changing mine - saw the carbon nappa leather yesterday (the cream one) and it looks amazing - so tempted but its such a waste of money :grin:
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I saw the Carbon Nappa at my local VW dealer, the carbon bits (bolsters etc) looked a bit plasticy up close to me. Cream and wet jeans? Risky.
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I saw the Carbon Nappa at my local VW dealer, the carbon bits (bolsters etc) looked a bit plasticy up close to me. Cream and wet jeans? Risky.
Really? That's interesting - thanks. For over 2k I don't want a plastic look! Also, cream seats and a 6 year old with chocolate in the back - also risky :grin:
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You let your kids eat in the car? :shocked:
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You let your kids eat in the car? :shocked:
Only once, and that was because we were on a long journey to Leeds - otherwise she starves till I stop :laugh:
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I saw the Carbon Nappa at my local VW dealer, the carbon bits (bolsters etc) looked a bit plasticy up close to me. Cream and wet jeans? Risky.
Really? That's interesting - thanks. For over 2k I don't want a plastic look! Also, cream seats and a 6 year old with chocolate in the back - also risky :grin:
I've also seen the cream nappa in the flesh when I parked up next to an mk7 R and persuaded the owner to let me have a nosey around inside. Up to that point I was seriously considering the nappa (despite the insane price tag) but changed my mind after seeing it. Looked horrible, plasticky, tacky and ruined the interior. Course I lied and told the owner it looked great :laugh: I'm speccing black vienna leather instead.
Kids eating in the car :shocked: I let my 8 year old starve.
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The wife doesn't even eat in mine never mind my 10yr old!
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Some sound parenting advice going on here!! :grin: :laugh: :evil:
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Some sound parenting advice going on here!! :grin: :laugh: :evil:
Yes, I hope you're taking note. You'll be saying the exact same thing in about 5 years :evil: :grin:
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Thanks for that, I have Vienna leather on order
Have it now on my mk6, still think I'm doing the right thing for me to go PCP on my 7R
Thanks anyway guys
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Am I right in assuming these lease deals do not include maintenance. I'm still in two minds to to try and sell privately and get a car on lease or just PX on a PCP.
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Am I right in assuming these lease deals do not include maintenance.
If it's a two year, 10k miles a year lease, will it need a service if it's on longlife?
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Am I right in assuming these lease deals do not include maintenance.
If it's a two year, 10k miles a year lease, will it need a service if it's on longlife?
Very valid point You make there.
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Am I right in assuming these lease deals do not include maintenance.
If it's a two year, 10k miles a year lease, will it need a service if it's on longlife?
It will if it's driven hard :wink:
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Am I right in assuming these lease deals do not include maintenance.
If it's a two year, 10k miles a year lease, will it need a service if it's on longlife?
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If the car stays on longlife, you will not get to 2 years before it asks for a service, especially on it's first one, figure for an 18 month ask. Unless you're doing motorway miles and 15k + miles PA you shouldn't be on longlife. There may even be a clause in your lease that stipulates you have to service it on the time and distance regime and that service 2 needs to be done before the car is given back (or they'll charge you a penalty fee to have it carried out). Check your contract.
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There are going to be plenty of abused leasers out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
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There are going to be plenty of abused leaders out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
I agree. Personally, I would never buy a car that had been a lease vehicle. It's the same as buying from a car supermarket - 90% of those vehicles are lease/company car vehicles - and 90% of company car drivers don't give a toss about "their" car.
(Stats completely made up btw :grin:)
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Slightly off topic, does anyone know of some good deals other than the R. I need to replace my old mans car and he only does 20 miles a day through Brum. He doesn't need summat as powerful or flashy. I tried to convince him to get the 1.4gt golf but can't seem to find any deals.
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There are going to be plenty of abused leaders out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
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Agree. That'll bode well for me, purchasing the old fashioned way - cash :wink: plus T & D servicing. Just need to decide whether to order this November or leave it till March next year? Decisions, decisions :undecided:
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There are going to be plenty of abused leaders out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
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Agree. That'll bode well for me, purchasing the old fashioned way - cash :wink: plus T & D servicing. Just need to decide whether to order this November or leave it till March next year? Decisions, decisions :undecided:
If you want one for next March, ordering Nov may already be too late, if you want it next Sept then order next March/April.
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There are going to be plenty of abused leaders out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
I agree. Personally, I would never buy a car that had been a lease vehicle. It's the same as buying from a car supermarket - 90% of those vehicles are lease/company car vehicles - and 90% of company car drivers don't give a toss about "their" car.
(Stats completely made up btw :grin:)
I doubt many are driven with mechanical sympathy...full boost requests on a cold engine and so on.
I've never been to one of those supermarkets but I've heard the stock can be variable and the test drive is laughably short at some.
It wouldn't be my first choice.
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There are going to be plenty of abused leaders out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
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Agree. That'll bode well for me, purchasing the old fashioned way - cash :wink: plus T & D servicing. Just need to decide whether to order this November or leave it till March next year? Decisions, decisions :undecided:
If you want one for next March, ordering Nov may already be too late, if you want it next Sept then order next March/April.
Yes I know that. I meant order next March for delivery Sept.
My mk6 will be 3 years old next Sept and I bought it with the intention of changing it at 3 years for a mk7 R, having decided to pass on holding out for the mk7 GTI. In any event I was always going to wait until Dynaudio was available on the R (confirmed from 3rd Nov), but I am in a position to order now should I wish to do so (the money's burning a hole in my pocket :grin:). I am aware of the 5/6 month lead in time, which is nothing new.
I'm not in a particular rush and still enjoying my current car but shall ponder it further.
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Wow, that is cheap!
Right, someone help me figure this out, because I can't get my head around it.
I bought a pretty well specced GTD (ACC, winter pack, DN) for £27K on an agreed milage of 14K. I put £5K down (seemed to be the right amount) and pay £290 a month based on a 3.5/4 year deal. 3 years of servicing is included.
Did I do a stupid? Should I have just leased instead? A lot less down and lower monthlies? I have no intention of keeping the car at the end of the term and had planned to trade in for something new.
Seems financially, something like this would have been a better option??
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There are going to be plenty of abused leaders out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
I agree. Personally, I would never buy a car that had been a lease vehicle. It's the same as buying from a car supermarket - 90% of those vehicles are lease/company car vehicles - and 90% of company car drivers don't give a toss about "their" car.
(Stats completely made up btw :grin:)
What's to say that some private buyers that only keep their car for a relatively short two years will be any different? The second hand car market is a minefield, even the so called 'Approved Used' one.
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What's to say that some private buyers that only keep their car for a relatively short two years will be any different? The second hand car market is a minefield, even the so called 'Approved Used' one.
Of course there will always be private buyers who don't look after their cars. But in my experience, if you had one person with a flash car against another with the same flash car, but which is a company car, the private buyer will look after his far more - as its his car. When I had company cars I still looked after them, but not as much as I do now - because it wasn't my car at the end of the day so give a sh!t :laugh:
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What about car love?
Renting just ain't the same.
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I got in touch with Lee (evo1986) from the forums and he's given me a great deal! I just need to sort a few things out then I think I'll be going with Lee's deal.
Jim
Good to see Lee is still floating about and coming up with deals.
Top fella, no nonsense like a lot of car sales guys, he just gets on with it.
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What about car love?
Renting just ain't the same.
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I think you are right
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What about car love?
Renting just ain't the same.
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Agree.
But isn't car love a given on this forum?
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There are going to be plenty of abused leaders out there. I think "privately owned, serviced on time and distance" might be a huge selling point on an R in a few years time. :whistle:
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Agree. That'll bode well for me, purchasing the old fashioned way - cash :wink: plus T & D servicing. Just need to decide whether to order this November or leave it till March next year? Decisions, decisions :undecided:
If you want one for next March, ordering Nov may already be too late, if you want it next Sept then order next March/April.
Yes I know that. I meant order next March for delivery Sept.
My mk6 will be 3 years old next Sept and I bought it with the intention of changing it at 3 years for a mk7 R, having decided to pass on holding out for the mk7 GTI. In any event I was always going to wait until Dynaudio was available on the R (confirmed from 3rd Nov), but I am in a position to order now should I wish to do so (the money's burning a hole in my pocket :grin:). I am aware of the 5/6 month lead in time, which is nothing new.
I'm not in a particular rush and still enjoying my current car but shall ponder it further.
Is the dynaudio still confirmed for the 3rd nov, I bought a golf r today & the dealer didn't know anything about it.
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Yes I know that. I meant order next March for delivery Sept.
My mk6 will be 3 years old next Sept and I bought it with the intention of changing it at 3 years for a mk7 R, having decided to pass on holding out for the mk7 GTI. In any event I was always going to wait until Dynaudio was available on the R (confirmed from 3rd Nov), but I am in a position to order now should I wish to do so (the money's burning a hole in my pocket :grin:). I am aware of the 5/6 month lead in time, which is nothing new.
I'm not in a particular rush and still enjoying my current car but shall ponder it further.
Is the dynaudio still confirmed for the 3rd nov, I bought a golf r today & the dealer didn't know anything about it.
See thread below - BW45 changes confirmed by dealer evo1986. He's a reliable source, unfortunately the same cannot be said about many other dealers :wink:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270673.0
Also a few on rforum have been able to add it to their orders even though it's not yet officially on the system.
http://www.rforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=3373&start=225
Hopefully it'll show up in the vw configurator soon after the 3rd and on DTD etc websites. Are you wanting to add it to your order?
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My dealer has told I can add it to the order as soon as it show's up on the Configurator,I'm desperate to have it this time round as I didn't spec it on the gti & really regretted it.
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Is it really worth changing an order for? I can't tell any difference at all.
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Is it really worth changing an order for? I can't tell any difference at all.
I must admit I haven't heard the dynaudio in person,but you would think with the sub in the boot & the amplified premium speakers it should sound amazing.
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Other way round for me - not sure what the normal sound set up is like. Next meet we have I will try it out...
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Other way round for me - not sure what the normal sound set up is like. Next meet we have I will try it out...
Sounds good pm me your details,& we can put the great dynaudio debate to rest.
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Not overly impressed by Dynaudio if I'm perfectly honest. Mid tones are great but crank up the volume with high bass and the entire car rattles and vibrates with quite a bit of distortion at top end. Turn the bass down to fix this issue and it just sounds crap.
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Not overly impressed by Dynaudio if I'm perfectly honest. Mid tones are great but crank up the volume with high bass and the entire car rattles and vibrates with quite a bit of distortion at top end. Turn the bass down to fix this issue and it just sounds crap.
Not sure thats typical of DynAudio Mr S.
Absolutely no distortion on mine and certainly no rattles or vibration.
Something good came on last night and I cranked it right up and it was crystal clear with loads of depth.
Maybe try altering the settings?
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I've tried altering the settings thousands of times to no avail. What settings are you rolling with?