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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Olifran on 05 September 2014, 15:05
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Anyone got one of these for their GTI? Particularly DSG?
Can get one for £150. Was thinking with my stage 1 should make a good combo.
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Are they just the same as a tunning box but at the opposite end of the system? i did look at them when i had a Racechip pro for my Seat leon but opted for the tunning box at the common rail. Can you fit these in conjunction with a stage 1 remap?
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Are they just the same as a tunning box but at the opposite end of the system? i did look at them when i had a Racechip pro for my Seat leon but opted for the tunning box at the common rail. Can you fit these in conjunction with a stage 1 remap?
http://www.pedalbox.com/en
Its not a tunning box it just alters the signal shape between the throttle pedal and the ecu changing the way the pedal responds to foot input.
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Cheers, i was always a bit confused what they did.
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I have watched a few videos on it and cant work out whether i would need it? I mean if i want to go faster i just slam my foot to floor, takes a quarter of a second.....
It would be nice for someone with a MK6 GTI to test one :cool:
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Had one on my remapped VXR a few years back and it did make it feel quicker. It's like having a sport button. Just sharpens the throttle. Can actually trick you into thinking your car is quicker. I'm probably going to order one next week. I'll let u know if/when I've tested it.
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Had one on my remapped VXR a few years back and it did make it feel quicker. It's like having a sport button. Just sharpens the throttle. Can actually trick you into thinking your car is quicker. I'm probably going to order one next week. I'll let u know if/when I've tested it.
Cool, that would be good.
Can you get multiple @£150?
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We're the uk pedal box importer and can organise pedal boxes for you guys at £149 plus £6.95 shipping..
We've just added one to the ford smax we have for 3 months and it's made a massive difference, great mod
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I might be interested in one, mulling it over :smiley:
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I run one on my MK7 and had something similar on the MK6.
The SprintBooster I had on the MK6 did basically the same job but had less adjustments than the Pedal Box and was nowhere near as well made yet didn't cost that much less.
The Pedal Box is a great mod, those that say "just press the pedal a bit harder" miss the point and have obviously never tried one. It takes all the dead play out of the pedal and makes the car behave more like an old skool GTI - touch the pedal and off it goes rather than feeling like putting your boot in a pile of mush and waiting for the electronic lag to make its mind up what the car is going to do, which is what standard feels like after using one of these boxes.
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so do you in turn think it would make it quicker to 60mhp?
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If you have a remap they can adjust the throttle curve and response. What would this do that your map can't?
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so do you in turn think it would make it quicker to 60mhp?
A 0-60 is more about mashing the pedal to the floor once the initial traction level has been sorted, so maybe the box might make a few hundredths of a second difference on a drag race?
It's in five and take driving you will notice the difference. In real world driving the box makes the car more eager and responsive.
Put it this way, on my GTI aside from the horrible noise it made I could tell no difference between normal and sport in the theottle menu modes but once the box was attached I could.
It won't turn a GTI into an R but it just makes it feel more like a GTI should.
If you have a remap they can adjust the throttle curve and response. What would this do that your map can't?
This is purely the pedal electronics which the remappers don't touch as it's a separate circuit. When I had my mk6 REVO'd I asked them if they could sharpen the throttle response and they said no, they'd done all they could.
Anybody who has driven a mk7 Polo GTI 1.8T will know how one of these boxes works as VW played about with the pedal electronics on these models and made it so much more fun to drive than other 1.8T's.
Google or YouTube the VW ad's for those cars and you'll see what I mean as they were a send up of the cars responses.
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If you have a remap they can adjust the throttle curve and response. What would this do that your map can't?
This is purely the pedal electronics which the remappers don't touch as it's a separate circuit. When I had my mk6 REVO'd I asked them if they could sharpen the throttle response and they said no, they'd done all they could.
Anybody who has driven a mk7 Polo GTI 1.8T will know how one of these boxes works as VW played about with the pedal electronics on these models and made it so much more fun to drive than other 1.8T's.
Google or YouTube the VW ad's for those cars and you'll see what I mean as they were a send up of the cars responses.
Err, not sure i follow you there. I have had the throttle map adjusted twice by superchips. Of course the re maps adjust the throttle curve, its even a switchable option on a Revo map i believe.
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If you look at the top of your throttle pedal you'll see a plug in behind.
This is the throttle pedal circuit which is not related to the throttle map in the ECU.
There is dead play put in the pedal by VW that's still there after a remap.
You'll have to either trust me or not on this, I'm Not trying to sell you anything so don't care if you believe me either way.
I've had remaps and tuning boxes on cars going back 16 years which considering I change car every two years or less is a lot! I've been modifying VWs for nearly 30 years.
Whether the car is remapped or not these boxes make a difference.
And excuse my crap typing, I hate using the forum on the phone!!!
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Ok, in the interest of the debate, the ecu knows where the top and bottom of the throttle pedal travel is. When the pedal is not pressed at all lets call that zero and when the pedal is pushed down as far as it can be lets call that 100. All the places in between are 1 to 99, the ecu get this info and opens the throttle. It may open it 30% for 10% of pedal travel, so a sharp response or it may open it 10% for 30% or travel, a soft response. What does the box do that's different to that?
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F##k knows, I've run out of fingers trying to work the sums out!!!
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It's an amplifier. So it will amplify the signal to the ECU
A fancy amplifier.
One I'd not be without.
Can't be any more scientific than that I'm afraid!
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F##k knows, I've run out of fingers trying to work the sums out!!!
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It's an amplifier. So it will amplify the signal to the ECU
A fancy amplifier.
One I'd not be without.
Can't be any more scientific than that I'm afraid!
Fair enough, folks will draw their own conclusions, snake oil?
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People are always sceptical about these until they actually try them for themselves and 9/10 don't want to remove them.. They are the hardest thing in the world to sell, but I agree with exon ian I wouldn't be without one on anything I drive
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People are always sceptical about these until they actually try them for themselves and 9/10 don't want to remove them.. They are the hardest thing in the world to sell, but I agree with exon ian I wouldn't be without one on anything I drive
I am not surprised they are hard to sell if no one can explain what it actually does.
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People are always sceptical about these until they actually try them for themselves and 9/10 don't want to remove them.. They are the hardest thing in the world to sell, but I agree with exon ian I wouldn't be without one on anything I drive
I am not surprised they are hard to sell if no one can explain what it actually does.
Come on Dan its not rocket science, if you push the pedal a quarter of the way down and kept it there it may sit on 2000rmp, with the pedal box it would amplified to 4000rmp. So a quarter push would give a much more assertive acceleration. Simples...
this video sums it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAN7aRqT0B0
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People are always sceptical about these until they actually try them for themselves and 9/10 don't want to remove them.. They are the hardest thing in the world to sell, but I agree with exon ian I wouldn't be without one on anything I drive
I am not surprised they are hard to sell if no one can explain what it actually does.
Come on Dan its not rocket science, if you push the pedal a quarter of the way down and kept it there it may sit on 2000rmp, with the pedal box it would amplified to 4000rmp. So a quarter push would give a much more assertive acceleration. Simples...
this video sums it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAN7aRqT0B0
I am aware its simple which is why its a waste of cash if you have a mapped car already, all it does is change the throttle mapping which is what i said earlier. This mapping can be changed via superchips, revo or other maps too. Of course the other thing you could do is push the throttle down further with your foot...
Do you mean rpm by the way?
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People are always sceptical about these until they actually try them for themselves and 9/10 don't want to remove them.. They are the hardest thing in the world to sell, but I agree with exon ian I wouldn't be without one on anything I drive
I am not surprised they are hard to sell if no one can explain what it actually does.
Come on Dan its not rocket science, if you push the pedal a quarter of the way down and kept it there it may sit on 2000rmp, with the pedal box it would amplified to 4000rmp. So a quarter push would give a much more assertive acceleration. Simples...
this video sums it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAN7aRqT0B0
I am aware its simple which is why its a waste of cash if you have a mapped car already, all it does is change the throttle mapping which is what i said earlier. This mapping can be changed via superchips, revo or other maps too. Of course the other thing you could do is push the throttle down further with your foot...
Do you mean rpm by the way?
^^^^^ ha ha Yeah RPM, I was tired last night.
But to be fair I have REVO, and I still think this could help as you still have to put foot fully down to tell the engine / ECU to give it 100% power, if that was reduced to 60-70% foot to floor it would make it feel faster.
Im still open minded about them, would love to try it.
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Call revo and just get them to tweek your map so you have 100% throttle at 70% pedal travel. But, I would say dont bother, you have much better control with the longer pedal travel rather than with an on/off switch :grin:
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Well I've taken the plunge and ordered one today for my DSG. I'll report back when I've played with it.
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Well the pedal box arrived Saturday after ordering Friday. Fitted it and was presented with EPC, EML and take to garage warning. The manual does tell you this may happen and that changing the setting and restarting should clear it. But for me no amount of plugging and un plugging and changing settings worked. So I resorted to using VCDS to clear everything. Now all running fine in the city program. It makes the car feel like you have a sport button. Throttle just seems sharper and more sensitive. Like it so far. Going to play with the settings. Sport + is for ambitious driving :huh: may try that setting next.
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Well the pedal box arrived Saturday after ordering Friday. Fitted it and was presented with EPC, EML and take to garage warning. The manual does tell you this may happen and that changing the setting and restarting should clear it. But for me no amount of plugging and un plugging and changing settings worked. So I resorted to using VCDS to clear everything. Now all running fine in the city program. It makes the car feel like you have a sport button. Throttle just seems sharper and more sensitive. Like it so far. Going to play with the settings. Sport + is for ambitious driving :huh: may try that setting next.
So a couple of months down the line, how did you feel the product worked out. Good, bad or just average?
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Couple of months? :smiley:
I now have it on my mk7 GTI DSG (sold the MK6 a few weeks ago). I love the pedal box. Works really well. Would definitely recommend it!
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Couple of months? :smiley:
I now have it on my mk7 GTI DSG (sold the MK6 a few weeks ago). I love the pedal box. Works really well. Would definitely recommend it!
what about with stage 1 or stage 2 maps?
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It would fly!
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Last question. I know you have DSG, but what would it be like for the biting point on a hill start?
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Due you find that the DSG changes sharper/quicker?
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If you check the graphs of how it modifys the signal on the websites its wont effect pull awa