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Title: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 13 August 2014, 15:26
I know i have pretty stiff roll bars on and the chassis is very stiff , but the back end when driving on uneven roads is really creaky, starting to really do my head in.

I have had a play around in the back seats and boot and nothing seems to move or creak when pushing or pulling the parts.

Can anyone point me in the right direction or where to check next. Do the rear shock top mount ever creak as i havent checked there? It kind of sounds like its coming from C pilars or where the rear seat joins.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: golfhappy on 13 August 2014, 16:10
Mines just standard set up and it's creaking from the rear when i go over the sleeping policemen in my road. cleared when we had rain. Things are as dry as a stick! when i drove the car in the wet, no noise!
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 13 August 2014, 16:26
Mines just standard set up and it's creaking from the rear when i go over the sleeping policemen in my road. cleared when we had rain. Things are as dry as a stick! when i drove the car in the wet, no noise!

think mine is doing it all the time now. Dont know where to spray some WD40?
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Snoopy on 13 August 2014, 18:00
Rear hatch creaks like mad on its rubber and rubber stops.The catch on the hatch comes loose causing it to creak even more.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Cerialkarpins on 13 August 2014, 19:07
mines just started doing this yesterday. it sounds more like something moving about. took everything out of boot, still happens. i was thinking it has something to do with it being up on a ramp last week. anyone solves it post it on here please. will check the latch. cheers
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Dipesh2031 on 13 August 2014, 20:53
Read a while back someone added bracing in the rear, a unibrace product which stiffened things up and reduced creaking but only on diagonal slops etc, could be worth looking into? stupidly expensive though...

I also have horrible creaking from the back, thought maybe my bushings were gone? (70k after all) someone also said the 3dr cars creak more? my mk5 doesn't creek at all and is 5dr (with 160k) but the gtd is 3dr and creeks, drives me nuts when there's no music on.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Beddie on 13 August 2014, 21:41
Definitely sounds like the rear ARB bushes, my ed30 H&R rear bar bushes creaked like a haunted house!  :grin:

30mins and some grease shuts them up for a bit  :smiley:

Also on the mk6 the door seals can be very noisy, a coat of wax within the door shut where the felt seal touches the body is a good short term fix but VW Krytox lubricant keeps them silent for ages!
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Booth11 on 13 August 2014, 21:53
Definitely sounds like the rear ARB bushes, my ed30 H&R rear bar bushes creaked like a haunted house!  :grin:

30mins and some grease shuts them up for a bit  :smiley:

Also on the mk6 the door seals can be very noisy, a coat of wax within the door shut where the felt seal touches the body is a good short term fix but VW Krytox lubricant keeps them silent for ages!

^^
Krytox sorted my door seal creaks.  No issues since.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 13 August 2014, 22:06
Definitely sounds like the rear ARB bushes, my ed30 H&R rear bar bushes creaked like a haunted house!  :grin:

30mins and some grease shuts them up for a bit  :smiley:

Also on the mk6 the door seals can be very noisy, a coat of wax within the door shut where the felt seal touches the body is a good short term fix but VW Krytox lubricant keeps them silent for ages!

It defo not the ARB bushes, its inside the car. I have removed the rear seats and a few interior plastic bits and its still doing it.

I had a mate in the back trying to listen where it was coming from but he couldnt pin point it.

I think Snoopy's idea could be worth a try, I will try the bootlid seals. Its not the door seals as its only a 3 door and it coming from the back....... :undecided:
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 14 August 2014, 14:55
Tried adjusting the boot stops, put it to max height and lowest height, still the same.

The noise doesnt happen when boot is fully open, so something is creaking when boot lid is shut.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Booth11 on 14 August 2014, 15:49
Have you tried it with parcel shelf out?  I expect you have, but I remember someone previously saying that some mk6s got noise associated with the rubber stoppers on the ends of cord holding the shelf. 
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 14 August 2014, 16:33
Have you tried it with parcel shelf out?  I expect you have, but I remember someone previously saying that some mk6s got noise associated with the rubber stoppers on the ends of cord holding the shelf.

Yeah i have nothing in the rear at the min, no seats, no shelf's, no carpet, no spare wheel....and still its there...
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Dipesh2031 on 16 August 2014, 16:29
did you sort it out in the end?
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 16 August 2014, 19:00
did you sort it out in the end?

No not really, I dropped my ARB down from track to sport and its still a bit creaky. Im thinking about removing my boot lid, re-greasing and re-fitting to see if that makes any difference, as it only does it when the bootlid is shut.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Snoopy on 16 August 2014, 23:34
White spray grease the hinged and also the strut hinges. But more likley the rubber mine regular needs extra loob to stop it creaking. The rubbers on the wires to the boot often need loobjng too!
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Booth11 on 16 August 2014, 23:48
If it is the boot door seals/rubbers then as stated previously, Krytox works wonders.  I used it on my front door seals and it completely eliminated the noise problem I was having (was recommended to me by Beddie and GS Wax).  Did the rest of the car with it just for good measure.  Not cheap for a small bottle but worth it.

Available from TPS, part no. G052172A1  VW Krytox  (DuPont GPL-105).  30ml £28 plus VAT
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 18 August 2014, 08:59
White spray grease the hinged and also the strut hinges. But more likley the rubber mine regular needs extra loob to stop it creaking. The rubbers on the wires to the boot often need loobjng too!

Not sure which bits you mean, can you takes pics of where you think i should lube. What lube do you use on the hinges? Ive only used WD40 so far. Thanks
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 19 August 2014, 09:18
White spray grease the hinged and also the strut hinges. But more likley the rubber mine regular needs extra loob to stop it creaking. The rubbers on the wires to the boot often need loobjng too!

Not sure which bits you mean, can you takes pics of where you think i should lube. What lube do you use on the hinges? Ive only used WD40 so far. Thanks

^^^^ @ Snoopy - Any ideas?
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Snoopy on 19 August 2014, 17:49
I used
ixtar white spray lithium grease. On the boot hinges at the top of the hatch.
Also on the ball/sockets of the struts on the sides of the hatch.
Autoglym rubbercare on the rubber boots covering the wiring to the hatch.
krytox on the rubber seal.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 21 August 2014, 16:43
I used
ixtar white spray lithium grease. On the boot hinges at the top of the hatch.
Also on the ball/sockets of the struts on the sides of the hatch.
Autoglym rubbercare on the rubber boots covering the wiring to the hatch.
krytox on the rubber seal.

Sprayed the hinges on top of the hatch, sprayed the seals. Still the same.

Do anyone know what size sockets fits the bolts on the hinges? Its not a standard size  :sad:

I was thinking about remove the bootlid and re-fitting.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 21 August 2014, 23:33
I have had my seats, spare tyre, and all interior panels out and the noise still happens. Im sure I have ruled out everything other than suspension / drop links.

I do run an up-rated roll bar which I have freshly greased and refit (so its can be that). but when driving my ride does feel rather harsh to say im on OEM spring and shocks. When the car is on the lift the wheels fall as normal, they dont stayed compressed and the ride isnt sloppy / bouncy, so I cant work out if the shocks have dried / stiffened up and thats why they are not compressing properly and giving a smooth ride....does this ever happen?

Or is there a chance it could be the drop links that are knackered? I have sprayed they with liquid grease but still the same -  im so confused as to what it could be.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 11 September 2014, 15:33
I thought it was the boot rubber seal causing this, but after driving with the boot lid fully open it still happened,creaking like a son of a b!tch.

So after a bit more research, people say it could be the rear suspension mount or welds in the C-Pillar.

Has anyone heard of these or ever had to fix / replace them.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Buck on 11 September 2014, 17:22
Mine creaks going over a series of speed bumps on my wayto work but on others it doesn't do it but bl00dy annoying.

I've had a look at the suspension from underneath when jacked up and can't see anything untoward and so I'm thinking it is the springs or the struts or the mounts.  Can't think what else it would be?
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: andygo on 15 September 2014, 19:19
If its only happening when the hatch is shut, have you looked into adjusting the close mechanism. I'm not sure if it can be adjusted but I'd imagine it must be able to be moved. You might have to shut the hatch more firmly, but it would be a 'tighter' fit.

Just a thought.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 16 September 2014, 08:54
It does it when its open as well which leads me to believe its the suspension or suspension mounts, or C pillar weld / creaky frame
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: andygo on 16 September 2014, 09:44
Sorry, I read it as creaking when shut.

It may be the ball joint on one end the drop link has dried out inside its rubber boot. Maybe try disconnecting one drop link, thereby relieving any stress on the whole rear ARB setup and see what happens then. You will be ok to trundle round with one bolt undone, its only the roll bar.
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: Dipesh2031 on 16 September 2014, 16:32
I've noticed in the warmer climate mine has stopped creaking so much, over harder roads I get a few creaks, but not as many as before, weird
Title: Re: Rear half creaking like mad - Where is it coming from?
Post by: GS WAX on 22 September 2014, 10:29
Just noticed something on mine while polishing the  shark fin on the roof, creaks like mad when you touch it, have a look, might be your problem, especially with the roof flex over bumps.