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Title: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: JoseMcGeevio on 02 June 2014, 23:26
Now then,

I have read some horror storys on splitting these rims, im really paranoid ill snap or round a bolt off,

What are the best tools to use...?

Impact driver? Stand socket with the spline in?

Any help will be appreciated because I DO NOT WANT TO FORK OUT FOR NEW ONES!!

peace x
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: sharki786 on 03 June 2014, 07:20
Make sure you have the right tools before starting the job. Make sure the spline tool fits snugly i to the bolt. Use a breaker bar. If you dont have much luck then heat each bolt up. Thats what the refurbers had to do with mine.
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 03 June 2014, 09:32
Leave it to the experts I say
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: boneybradley on 03 June 2014, 11:29
M8 spline (I bought a good set as you do need the right tool and not some cheapy!), and I used an impact gun with no snapped bolts but i was lucky

(I have done 3 sets but have passed on a 4th!!)
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: JoseMcGeevio on 03 June 2014, 15:20
Ah right so nobody would recomend using an impact  driver then just power tools.

How much are we looking at if worst comes to worst and i snap a few bolts? (touch wood i dont).

I have halfords profesional tools so i will be using 'decent' tools.

What does heating the bolts up do? Wouldnt it make the metal expand and make it harder??

What happened to the last set ten Bradley? :huh:
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: boneybradley on 03 June 2014, 17:01
last set are one's you look at and think no!

if you snap a few bolts i have spares!
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: JoseMcGeevio on 03 June 2014, 17:18
Nice one mate, thing is though, what do i do if i snap them. wont they be stuck in there?! :huh:
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: Bellend on 03 June 2014, 18:11
Can I make a comment and say Halfords Pro torx/screwdriver and spline bits are all total and utter sh!t?

Laser ones are way way way better on a budget.

Halfords sockets and ratchets are alright.
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 03 June 2014, 18:12
 :grin:
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: murraymint on 03 June 2014, 19:14
I snapped 8 bolts when I did mine...
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: tweed on 03 June 2014, 22:24
I dont rate haulfords tools lol
I use barco tools.

Anyway regarding wheels. I have 120 brand new never used chromed bolts.

I have about 75 used bbs rc splined bolts.

Never refurb wheels and exspect every thing to go smoothly.  Bolts are cheap so dont worry.
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: JoseMcGeevio on 03 June 2014, 22:48
See the thing is with Halfords tools you buy them and they ar guarenteed for life.. + i know a lad who works there who gets them discounted for me.. Although i want tools for life, if i had the money for a full snap on kit i would buy them... surely there not that bad are they mate?..


I just hope i dont go snapping bolts... Otherwise ill just scrap the car.. Lol! (joke)

I know they have never been split in 17 years as there is still the original paintwork on the alloys..

Fingers crossed tey come off after 17 years! haha
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: tweed on 03 June 2014, 23:22
Life time guarantee yes. Do you know what it covers? Obviously not. It doesn't cover the moving part of the ratchet spanner, just the solid handle. So only covers solid metal parts.  And how do you brake them?

Also if over time you round off a spanner its also not covered because thats wear and tear. You need to bend or snap it to get a replacement. 

Also will only exchange if you show your receipt. Still gonna have that in 10/15 years? And will halfords still be around then? Or making tools atleast? Who knows.

Dont get sucked in by life time guarantee  :wink:
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: clancy on 04 June 2014, 20:23
Only snapped 2 on mine :) they are not too horrendous to get out so don't panic

Most engineering workshops or fabricators etc can get them out real easy for you if you get stumped
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: VW BUSH on 04 June 2014, 20:57
Can I make a comment and say Halfords Pro torx/screwdriver and spline bits are all total and utter sh!t?

Laser ones are way way way better on a budget.

Halfords sockets and ratchets are alright.
Dont often agree but Halfords stuff is gash for anything above Sunday use.
As said heat will help, the expansion and contraction will help the steel release from the ali.
Soaking in paraffin or other wd type solution will help.
Tapping the bolt on the head with a brass knocker and hammer will help release the thread as well.
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: Screech16v on 07 June 2014, 20:32
I didn't snap any on mine, I put the spline in each bolt and gave it a good crack with the hammer before trying to undo.
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: brett on 07 June 2014, 22:19
That's because you were all lucky lol
When I had mine I attempted to ,one of which stripped the head so had to drill out and the other snapped the head off  :laugh:
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: clancy on 08 June 2014, 09:59
What bit did you use to get through titanium ? All my hss bits don't do anything,  even in my sds drill lol
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: brett on 08 June 2014, 10:19
Will find out at work tomorrow and get back to you
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: VW BUSH on 08 June 2014, 12:01
What bit did you use to get through titanium ? All my hss bits don't do anything,  even in my sds drill lol
Carbide or various forms of with coatings.
They dont stand up well in a pistol drill sds or not as you need the correct speed and cutting force applied so they cut and don't chatter and shatter.
I would avoid titanium bolts personally.
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: Ess_Three on 11 June 2014, 18:17

I would avoid titanium bolts personally.

So would I...
But sadly, M7 x 1.0 Ti bolts are what hold RXIIs together...so if he breaks them, he's looking at drilling them out...unless he has a Spark Eroder to hand...or can TIG a stainless nut to the broken thread and get it out that way. Been there...done that!
Title: Re: Splitting Anni BBS rims.
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 June 2014, 19:00

I would avoid titanium bolts personally.

So would I...
But sadly, M7 x 1.0 Ti bolts are what hold RXIIs together...so if he breaks them, he's looking at drilling them out...unless he has a Spark Eroder to hand...or can TIG a stainless nut to the broken thread and get it out that way. Been there...done that!
I have a spark eroder in my toolroom, its not easy getting a wheel on them but it can be done :wink:
I have a trick for drilling them as well, which makes it easier for them to be got out once you have separated the  rim from the hub without damaging the wheel. .....
Your right about the bolts but you can use others safely once you have got the tity ones out they just dont look right to those with an eye for detail......

Incidentally, a snap of me at the BBS factory last Xmas.
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