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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: fentshire on 18 May 2014, 20:27

Title: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: fentshire on 18 May 2014, 20:27
Another question for the Mk 6 GTI experts, any comments welcomed.

After getting my GTI back from having my timing chain issue resolved and having had a major service from the local VW dealer.

I felt eager to drive out to Vienna where I live three quarters of the year, from Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands (my UK base). I have done this journey each way many times.

It is 1050 miles door to door and a pleasure is to enjoy the German Autobahns where you can legally put your foot down.

My question is how fast can I go for say 10 minutes, safe in the knowledge my Mk 6 GTI engine is not going to blow up?

Now, I am a safe driver (full no claims, full license for over 25 years etc, never had an accident) but enjoy safe speed.

My TomTom satnav has shown my car speed to be at 120 mph (the VW speedo shows more), but after driving at this speed on empty roads for only a minute, I get worried my engine is going to start clonking, or dashboard warning lights start flashing highlighting something is now mechanically wrong with my car etc. Then I put my foot on the brakes and cruise gently at circa 100mph

I guess this might be for people who have been on a private track etc (I never have).

Any wisdom or comments welcome, including I am daft mad dangerous fool.
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: wigit on 18 May 2014, 20:54
I think given traffic on the autobahns you struggle to get more than a minute before having to drop down to sub 100, my 35 was seeing 160+ last year on GPS but that was Stage 2 so fairly easy to get those speeds
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: Snoopy on 18 May 2014, 21:44
Just keep an eye on the oil and water temperatures.
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: falconmick on 18 May 2014, 23:41
When you state ' I am a safe driver (full no claims, full license for over 25 years etc, never had an accident) but enjoy safe speed', have you had any further training or driving development since passing your driving test?
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: r32tev on 19 May 2014, 09:15
When you state ' I am a safe driver (full no claims, full license for over 25 years etc, never had an accident) but enjoy safe speed', have you had any further training or driving development since passing your driving test?

Whats that got to do with his question ? Clearly looking to pick fault....
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: Mattyj on 19 May 2014, 10:51
When you state ' I am a safe driver (full no claims, full license for over 25 years etc, never had an accident) but enjoy safe speed', have you had any further training or driving development since passing your driving test?

Whats that got to do with his question ? Clearly looking to pick fault....

Agreed i would assume he's pointing towards some sort of high speed training/police etc but seems abit pointless question
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: charlie on 19 May 2014, 10:59
Your car is all serviced and you have checked fluid levels tyres you should be fine cruising at top speed.  If I was on german autobahns I think I would cruise at 100 and now and then go upto max.   :cool:
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: Chris. on 20 May 2014, 01:26
all based on RPM and load at end of the day.

You can hit high RPM and lots of load accelerating hard in 3rd gear.....probably more stressful than cruising at 100mph in 6th at3-4000 RPM
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: mike. on 20 May 2014, 12:52
I was there last year and sitting at 110, 120 is not an issue, the car is very stable and it sure eats the miles up.

However the problem is not how long the engine will last at those speeds , the problem is how long the fuel tank will last   :shocked:
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: dubber36 on 20 May 2014, 15:19
the problem is how long the fuel tank will last   :shocked:

I know what you mean. When I had my Leon Cupra, some 100mph+ cross Europe trips would see a tank of petrol gone in under 2 hours.
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: Bandit127 on 20 May 2014, 19:34
Do you Mk6 boys have an option for oil temp in the display?

Or maybe with a bluetooth OBD adapter and the Torque app on your phone?

If so, I would use oil temp as the limiting factor and peg it at 130°C.

Sadly the Mk4 OBD system does not measure it so I can't have it, but it is a very useful thing to have.
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: r32tev on 22 May 2014, 17:31
Yeah we have oil temp on the display. Highest i've seen mine i believe is maybe 107degrees i think...
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: Bandit127 on 22 May 2014, 19:13
The heat generated by high speed running will mainly be removed by the oil. At least in the short term.

As the heat soaks through the engine the water will also pick up extra heat, but that has direct cooling and fans if needed so water temperature will not be a good indicator of engine stress.

Oil temperature is probably a much better indicator of engine stress than anything other than the rev counter and it will react quickly.

So, as my previous post. Hoof it along but keep the oil temp below 130°. 
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: ab17790 on 22 May 2014, 19:30
Hi

I have done a number of timing chain replacements at work and don't get me wrong it is a big just but once timed up and everything set to the correct Torque setting,All is fine just like when she left the factory :) like with anything major if it isn't set up correctly you will be able to tell straight away :)

Regards
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: itavaltalainen on 24 May 2014, 16:22
Don't worry too much, as said as long as oil temp stays decent there's no limit.

BTW how long does it take you to Vienna? My best time from Midlands to Upper Austria where my mom lives is 15.5 hours (crossing channel using Eurotunnel)?

Doing that journey about twice a year.... and am looking forward to my summer vacation this year (Scandinavia road trip >4k miles in 2 weeks).
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: fentshire on 25 May 2014, 18:50
Dear itavaltalainen

I used to set off from Sutton Coldfield at 5am and then eventually get to Vienna at 2am. So pretty much non stop driving for a 1050 mile journey. Which I quickly realised was rather daft.

Now I stop off in Bonn for the night and see good friends. It is virtually half way between home in England and home in Vienna. However, the second day drive from Bonn to Vienna is so dreary as it is all motorway.

Great weather in Wien at the moment - 26 centigrade. I and the good lady driving from Vienna to Zagreb in a couple of weeks to go to their animation festival. I like Zagreb, well the old town anyway.

Where does your mother live in Upper Austria?
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: itavaltalainen on 25 May 2014, 22:19
My mom lives near Wels, so you probably drive past there (where you leave A8 and join A25 then finally onto A1 near Ansfelden).

Pretty much all motorway between where I live (not too far off J7/M5) to Wels West (A8 exit 11) or Meggenhofen (exit 38) and then countryside roads.... I usually go up from Calais to Brussels, then past Aachen, Köln,... pretty much all on German A3.... then A8 in Austria

Zagreb sounds nice, lots of people told me it is... never managed to go there yet... maybe next year. This year off to Hamburg (gonna pick up my brother who takes train there from Austria), the Copenhagen, Gothenburg, Bergen, Oslo, Stockholm, Rovaniemi, Turku, Helsinki... and back again (on ferry helsinki - travemünde though).
Title: Re: How fast and for how long can I travel at this speed?
Post by: fentshire on 26 May 2014, 17:45
itavaltalainen

My good lady comes from Kiel (north Germany), the capital of Schleswig Holstein, which is a pleasant but sleepy place by the sea. We enjoyed Copenhagen a while ago, but you will surely have a fabulous holiday on your travels.

I have not been to any of the other cities on your list.