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Title: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this.... EDIT R32 now bought PAGE14
Post by: Nino on 23 April 2014, 17:53
Help me out guys, I have wanted an R32 for years and now this has just landed on my doorstep, I am that close to getting a loan...  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:

The reg is AM53 AZD Wonder if anyone knows the previous owner...

http://www.williamsmotor.co.uk/vw-golf-r32-in-cardiff-glamorgan-3613776
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Post by: Carl! on 23 April 2014, 19:08
Is the loan for 12 months tax?
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Post by: Nino on 23 April 2014, 19:14
Is the loan for 12 months tax?

The Mk4's are ok, they are the same tax band as my 1.8t its the Mk5's that are almost £500 per year!!
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Post by: dom on 23 April 2014, 20:17
Looks good :afro:

Check that the haldex has been serviced correctly and listen for any chain rattle. Discs/pads are also expensive so if they're low then use that as a haggling point if you decide to buy.
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Post by: james2 on 23 April 2014, 20:22
i would never get a loan. It is a nice car  :smiley:
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Post by: Nino on 23 April 2014, 21:06
i would never get a loan. It is a nice car  :smiley:

Loans are better than getting finance but I know what you mean, However Id make a good return breaking my 1.8t to pay back most of the loan.
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Post by: benmanc on 23 April 2014, 21:49
You only live once
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Post by: damien010685 on 23 April 2014, 22:31
Mate the money you have put in to your golf u want to take out a loan on a golf that to modify anything performance wise will cost you a fortune!! Trust me I own a v6 and I love it bit out the box they are disappointing you need to put a few quid in to make them epic anyone with a stage 1 mapped 1.8t turbo will be bored by an r32 other than the note with a decent  exhaust!!!

Also I think it's overpriced I know a guy selling a 3 door up here with less miles for 1200 less that that
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Post by: Nino on 23 April 2014, 22:42
Mate the money you have put in to your golf u want to take out a loan on a golf that to modify anything performance wise will cost you a fortune!! Trust me I own a v6 and I love it bit out the box they are disappointing you need to put a few quid in to make them epic anyone with a stage 1 mapped 1.8t turbo will be bored by an r32 other than the note with a decent  exhaust!!!

Also I think it's overpriced I know a guy selling a 3 door up here with less miles for 1200 less that that

I totally get what your saying, this one has already got a map onit and full miltek, I have always wanted an R32 and I have no idea why i hate the rear bumper lol

Problem I have is to get my car finished the way I want I need to spend a further 2k and im thinking now is it worth it?
If i got an R32 I see them as an iconic car, I would not mod it further than it is apart from having the windows tinted as I would want to keep it standard as possible I doubt id even put my 3SDM's on it and I can only see the price of the R32's going up the older they get, plus it has alot less mileage than my car that is the only reason I am considdering it.

tell the dude up your way i'll do a swap with cash his way if its nice enough lol
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Post by: Carl! on 23 April 2014, 22:47
Are you certain they are the same tax?! Also that one has too many doors!
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Post by: Nino on 23 April 2014, 22:50
Are you certain they are the same tax?! Also that one has too many doors!

Yip from my reaserch so far they are, don't get me wrong if they were not I would not considder it £500 tax is bloody stupid considdering the state of the bloody roads.

the 4 doors do put me off but on saying that this would be a car id keep for years and kids will be on the cards at some point im nearly 30!!  :shocked:

On saying that if this was blue and 3 door id already have it by now  :grin:
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Post by: Nino on 23 April 2014, 22:55
EDIT:

Just got this info from the .gov website...

(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Capture_zps1944b664.jpg)
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Post by: Carl! on 23 April 2014, 23:02
Did they change at a certain year? always had it in my head that they were 400 a year tax, one of the big reasons I opted for a 1.8t. Oh well!

Also tilt seats  make it easier to sort kids seats out  :wink: I'm 30 but there is still no excuse for a 5 door family car when there is a 3 door alternative.  :whistle: :smiley:
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Post by: dom on 23 April 2014, 23:34
All mk4 r32s fall into that tax bracket, some of the very early mk5s do as well. It changed in early 2006.

After playing with my mate's 3.2tt the r32 is pretty comparible to a mapped 1.8t, it's quicker off the line but slower between about 30-80 and gains again top end.

The r32 is a much better all rounder though, handling is in a different league to a 1.8t and the exhaust note  :evil:
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Post by: damien010685 on 23 April 2014, 23:39
Yeh your right dom it is but not worth it after sinking so much into a 1.8t I would put the extra money in to the 1.8t as you can make it handle the same if not better! Only thing u miss out on is the note which is why I kept the v6 as my run around
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Post by: XMC1980 on 24 April 2014, 03:40
Niño don't do it bro! You know your car it's a safe bet, after all that money time and effort it's not worth it... If you had a sudden new amount of dispensable income than do it but don't get a loan or finance, and if you are going to then get one that is completely standard, completely... As your buying on borrowed money and there will be less chance it's been thrashed or played with.

Just my advice brother but be lucky
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Post by: GTi_James on 24 April 2014, 10:32
Nino, priorities first buddy, you know my story and that i was saving for the R32 as well, ended up having enough for my own house  :wink:

thats my personal opinion, of course its entirely down to you
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Post by: dom on 24 April 2014, 10:52
I saw balls to it, you only live one. I really don't see the issue with a car loan/finance as long as you do you research and can afford the repayments.

I'm probably changing my car in the Autumn this year and will most likely get a loan for it, I'll put my car back to standard and sell it and most of the mods, then put any money made towards repaying the loan.
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Post by: Wayne on 24 April 2014, 11:13
Look at it another way that is a lot of money for a 10yr old car, I would stick with the 1.8t given the choice.
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Post by: GTi_James on 24 April 2014, 11:14
Look at it another way that is a lot of money for a 10yr old car, I would stick with the 1.8t given the choice.

+1
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Post by: scarr89 on 24 April 2014, 11:39
YOLO  :lipsrsealed:

There has never been a better time to get a loan, you should be able to get one on ~4%, which is great rate. Check out moneysavingexpert.co.uk before you take out a loan  :wink:

Get the car, have fun, sell it in a year or two for £5k...
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Post by: Nino on 24 April 2014, 12:14
Look at it another way that is a lot of money for a 10yr old car, I would stick with the 1.8t given the choice.

There are cars older such as skyrine r34 and escort rs turbo that sell from 14k
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Post by: jv on 24 April 2014, 12:20
R32 values look to be on the up.

Long time dead.

I was going to buy this but as it's from '89 it must only be worth a couple o' k.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-pre-89/porsche-911-3-2-carrera-coupe-g50-1989/2235477
:tongue:
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Post by: dom on 24 April 2014, 13:04
R32 values look to be on the up.

Long time dead.

I was going to buy this but as it's from '89 it must only be worth a couple o' k.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-pre-89/porsche-911-3-2-carrera-coupe-g50-1989/2235477
:tongue:

 :grin: :grin:

I'd buy an R32 but would be too tempted to turbo it.
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Post by: Wayne on 24 April 2014, 13:44
I was going to buy this but as it's from '89 it must only be worth a couple o' k.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-pre-89/porsche-911-3-2-carrera-coupe-g50-1989/2235477
:tongue:

I think bringing Porsche 911's to the party is missing the point, 911 values have been rock solid for years and will continue to rise, £7k for what is at the end of the day a 10 year old Golf is still a lot of money, I have never considered R32's to be an exciting choice.

Think outside the box and £7k would get you lots more choices that would be worth the money, hang onto more value and be more exciting.
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Post by: jv on 24 April 2014, 14:11
Not really Wayne. R32 prices dipped down to 4k and have recovered to a starting point of 6-ish. Maybe you not thinking the R32 is an exciting Golf is where you are going wrong.

911 values haven't been solid for years. There is tremendous variation over time. Not so long ago 964's were dirt cheap now you are looking at 20k. A great 993 could be yours for 20k not so long ago but now you need more like 30+. 996 Turbo's have recovered at least 5k in the last year. Conversely, 40k on an early 997 maybe 3 years ago would now be 25k.

Why are you so sure a mk4 R32 wouldn't be a wise investment? Limited run, distinctly different look, many ruined. Keep it standard and give it a few years.... who knows.

What are your suggestions for something more 'worth the money'?
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Post by: Wayne on 24 April 2014, 14:22
Why are you so sure a mk4 R32 wouldn't be a wise investment? Limited run, distinctly different look, many ruined. Keep it standard and give it a few years.... who knows.

I don't think I said a R32 is not a wise investment, as your right very few were made and standard ones will be on the money over the next few years but having been lucky to have drove one a while back, I did not think it was that exciting just felt a little numb and heavy to me.

What are your suggestions for something more 'worth the money'?

A Boxster or Evo would be nearer the top of my list or a nice early mk2 GTI whilst not exciting would be a wise investment.
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 24 April 2014, 15:50
Mate, just do it. Like most others have said, YOLO!

I'd love an R32 as an all round decent performance car that a lot of people appreciate for different reasons. I would also not hesitate to get a loan for a car as long as finances can be met elsewhere and are manageable. Christ I was going to get a brand new Polo only a couple years ago.

My only qualm, it's not blue.  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: barrym381 on 24 April 2014, 19:10
All mk4 r32s fall into that tax bracket, some of the very early mk5s do as well. It changed in early 2006.

After playing with my mate's 3.2tt the r32 is pretty comparible to a mapped 1.8t, it's quicker off the line but slower between about 30-80 and gains again top end.

The r32 is a much better all rounder though, handling is in a different league to a 1.8t and the exhaust note  :evil:
our blue 1.8t will prob handle better than most r32s but will never sound as good  :laugh:
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Post by: Nino on 24 April 2014, 19:57
This is what it will sound like as that R32 has the same catback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWiexDXjBFQ  :shocked:
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Post by: barrym381 on 24 April 2014, 20:00
This is what it will sound like as that R32 has the same catback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWiexDXjBFQ  :shocked:
pretty much the same as my old 4 mo  :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af_SVnDHHHA
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Post by: vwprime on 24 April 2014, 20:08
Looks very nice :cool:
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Post by: dom on 24 April 2014, 20:47
All mk4 r32s fall into that tax bracket, some of the very early mk5s do as well. It changed in early 2006.

After playing with my mate's 3.2tt the r32 is pretty comparible to a mapped 1.8t, it's quicker off the line but slower between about 30-80 and gains again top end.

The r32 is a much better all rounder though, handling is in a different league to a 1.8t and the exhaust note  :evil:
our blue 1.8t will prob handle better than most r32s but will never sound as good  :laugh:

Yours is the exception :grin:
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Post by: barrym381 on 24 April 2014, 20:52
All mk4 r32s fall into that tax bracket, some of the very early mk5s do as well. It changed in early 2006.

After playing with my mate's 3.2tt the r32 is pretty comparible to a mapped 1.8t, it's quicker off the line but slower between about 30-80 and gains again top end.

The r32 is a much better all rounder though, handling is in a different league to a 1.8t and the exhaust note  :evil:
our blue 1.8t will prob handle better than most r32s but will never sound as good  :laugh:

Yours is the exception :grin:
my old red 4mo left a few standard r32s mk4 and 5s an for this reason i cant see me ever going for the r32  :smiley:
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Post by: falconmick on 24 April 2014, 20:54
Some people talk and some people do it!
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Post by: Tezmax on 24 April 2014, 21:50
Some people talk and some people do it!

Exactly!!!

Nino grow some and go get her  :smiley:

At worst you can tell ya kids, i had one of those bad boys when i was your age :cool:
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Post by: Nino on 25 April 2014, 07:08
Im gunna test drive it tomorrow  :evil:
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Post by: GTi_James on 25 April 2014, 09:31
i think the only time i would now buy an R32 is to say that i owned one, but it is entirely down to Nino really, if you can afford the repayments and happy to let go of the hard work you've put into the 1.8t then i say why not, it really would stop the modifying aspect i think other than adding in a few choice mods perhaps

as said i was saving for one, then the mk5 came out, then the mk6 and before i knew it i had enough for a house with a bit of help from the old man of course but that was negligibly

however i can now start saving again for a R32 and see where the savings take me, i might just hog out on the 1.8t and stick a K400 with supporting mods, yeah theres no value to anyone else, but it will have value to me and ive always said mine will die on the road or die of old age
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Post by: Nino on 25 April 2014, 10:30
I know alot of you are thinking why not just keep modding mine, it will be faster than the r32, but for me it ant about have the faster car, thats not what i am about. Its about owning a car that holds value heck what upsets me the most the the work that my car has seen its prob better than alot of the 1.8t's you will find these days yet to make any money im going to be forced to breaking it. And id much rather sell it as it stands but id want around 3.5-4k and i know people will laugh at that price.

An R32 will hold value and its in my eyes an iconnic car. My dad once owned an escort cosworth what i remember of him and i have always said that one day ill get one to honor him. But now they are 16-30k and id never afford that. I see the R32 in that league and alittle bit of me would be statisfied that at least i owned at least 1 iconnic car even if it does put me in debt for 5 years.
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Post by: damien010685 on 25 April 2014, 14:30
Go for it if you want mate but I seriously doubt the R32 will hold it's value over time
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Post by: Nino on 25 April 2014, 22:02
Slight change of plan I'm going to castle Combe inserted tomorrow
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 26 April 2014, 01:05
Slight change of plan I'm going to castle Combe inserted tomorrow

What an anti-climax! :rolleyes:
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Post by: northeast_gti-t on 26 April 2014, 02:14
Iconic golf and i myself would love to own one :evil: so as said mate YOLO and if you can afford the repayments etc etc then do it  :wink:
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Post by: Nino on 26 April 2014, 06:24
Slight change of plan I'm going to castle Combe inserted tomorrow

What an anti-climax! :rolleyes:

lol its been planned for weeks but in this excitement i kind of forgot lol im still planning to take a look thou :)
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Post by: dom on 27 April 2014, 11:55
You've got me looking at R32s now :angry:
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 12:10
You've got me looking at R32s now :angry:
make sure its red dom  :laugh:
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Post by: Wazzzer on 27 April 2014, 12:10
nah any of the blues apart from DBP would be my choice...
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Post by: dom on 27 April 2014, 13:01
nah any of the blues apart from DBP would be my choice...

Why not DBP? That'd be my first choice, followed by red (rare as rocking horse poo though), then black.
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Post by: Wazzzer on 27 April 2014, 13:16
way too common. Although DBP is a nice colour I'd rather have a colour you don't see that often
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 13:24
nah any of the blues apart from DBP would be my choice...

Why not DBP? That'd be my first choice, followed by red (rare as rocking horse poo though), then black.
not as rare as the grey but still rare  :smiley:

way too common. Although DBP is a nice colour I'd rather have a colour you don't see that often
pity they never done them in white  :angry:
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Post by: Wazzzer on 27 April 2014, 13:47
yeah strange they never came out the factory in white, although there's not many Mk5 R32s in white either
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 15:56
OK so today I went to view that silver R32 and I came away both angry and slightly upset I will warn you this will be a long read but worth it.

So first thing is Id like to point out that this dealership has been around in Cardiff for many many years and always seems to have high end cars on the forecourt, you only have to visit the website to see that.

Anyway knowing this I had confidence that this R32 would be well looked after example as he only seems to have great cars.

I checked the website and it stated that this car has Full service history, a Miltek catback non-res and a remap by AMD.
I emailed the owner of the showroom and asked for further info on the service history he told me it was full VW or VW specialist.

I called AMD to speak about the work done on this car, they told me that it more than likely had a stage one and the miltek from them and if that's the case it would be running around 260bhp but could not tell me much more without the postcode of the previous owner and name.

So anyhoo first thing I did when I got there was take a good look around the car and I mean I must of spent around 30 mins or so, First thing I noticed was the passenger headlight was full and I mean FULL of bugs, the paintwork was great however there were flat spots and you could see it requires a good MOP. I also spotted over spray at the bottom of the drivers wing where it met the door and the aerial would need replacing. Also the passenger headlight washer was not sitting correctly in the bumper and there was a clear gap where water could get in.

Then it was time to check inside, I have to say other than needing me inside it for around 3 hours with my maguires products it was in great shape, no wear on the steering wheel, seats looked great and there was no marks on the headliner, However I did spot that the passenger side Alli trim on the center console was stuck on using sticky pads I was like really.........

Popped the bonnet, and the engine bay was stinking and I mean it made a non looked after diesel look like show room condition really really annoyed me and the coolant bottle was brown.

Then I grab the key (which was only one and extremely worn) checked the lights etc but was unable to try the climatronic because I was unable to start it due to it being in the middle of the showroom  :lipsrsealed:

All the lights worked, dash lights worked fine I honestly forgot to test the sunroof, but this is where I spotted another problem, the passenger heated seat was broken I was devastated.  :angry:

So next up I looked under the car and checked the springs, these looked newish and I could see they were "R racing" the discs looked ok, good for another year or so, I noted redstuff pads even thou the ad said yellowstuff........

Then I asked to see all the paperwork for the car that he had, I sat at one of his desks for an absolute age it seemed and he didn't even offer me a drink!!!! the guy didn't honestly seem bothered if he made a sale at all, now if this was a general gimp that worked there I could maybe slightly understand but he was the owner I mean the guy had a Lambo LP700 parked outfont and for me the possibility of spending 7k and going into debt is a really big deal for me. Anyway back on topic....

So the first thing that really made me *Face palm* was when I checked the service history, remember earlier I stated I was told it was full VW/Specialist history? WRONG!!! there was history in there but from lots of "Joe bloggs" garages infact I don't think I even spotted one VW garage :( Furthermore the first service in the book was at wait for it............................................................................. 38k!!!!!  :angry: and all that was done at this stage was the oil! not even the oil filter was changed!!! next service was brake fluid and sparks and 47K........ At this point I was thinking errrrrrr what about the heldex system? well that was done for the first time at *drum rolls* 56k! and only the oil, oil filter, heldex oil oh btw yes you read that correct the second oil change of the cars life was done 20k after the 1st one at 38k!!, I then read on and discovered that the heldex system got fully replaced at 68k now there is a surprise this is what happens when it isn't serviced every 20k and the total cost on the receipt was £1600!!! and even after that is was correctly maintained however it was done better than before. I also noticed that there was a check done on the heating system and the car would not give hot air and a unit needed replacing but I could not find any evidence of it being carried out. At this point i should of walked out but I was caught up in the moment slightly so thought id see how this went.

So at this point all that has ever been serviced on this car was the oil (now and again) heldex system (now and again) a couple of air filters, pollen filters and the normal wear and tear things.

There was also a receipt from AMD tuning, and the miltek, redstuff pads, and remap where all done by them totaling £1550!

I then asked about a test drive ( I thought at this stage I want to hear it and see how these 32's drive) to which point he said no because he is on his own but I could come back in the week if I called in advance.. I then thought hell if I can knock some money off this I could put abit into it to get it how it was meant to be loved ( I will point out hear I have no idea why I was thinking this after checking that service history) I explained about the heated seat not working, no evidence of the faulty heater unit being replaced, the holes in the service history, the headlight full of bugs, the over spray and told him that I was a serious buyer and not a tyre kicker and with all this in mind I would expect him to lower the price based on these findings to which he flat out laughed and said "no chance!" he said and I quote "This is the cheapest R32 on the market and its a stunner, furthermore its a second hand car so you can expect a few things wrong and he was 99% certain he got the car sold next week anyway" at that point I thanked him for his time and walked away however I was angry, gutted when leaving.

What I will confirm is I have defo made my mind up that I want one now and I am going to take my time finding the correct example and hopefully if all goes well with the person I have contacted over a 3 hour drive away from me I might end up having a seriously rare, and already famous DPB R32!!1 Watch this space  :cool:
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Post by: dom on 27 April 2014, 16:15
To be fair it's a 10 year old car, I don't think it's fair to expect it to be in showroom condition.

It's common for garages to only allow test drives if booked in advance. If the haldex was replaced at 68k then it's just about due a service, but hasn't missed any. My aluminium trip is held on with sticky tape as well :whistle:

The fact that they didn't tell the truth about the service history is rubbish, but the rest of it all seems pretty minor if you ask me.
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 16:18
I did expect him to move on the price but he wasn't even up for knocking anything off what so ever.
I mean in terms of his car being the cheapest on the market, this one has only 3k miles more but is almost £1000 cheaper comes with a private plate.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201312170583295/sort/priceasc/usedcars/colour/silver/model/golf/maximum-age/over_10_years_old/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/transmission/manual/make/volkswagen/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/fuel-type/petrol/radius/1501/postcode/cf329yh/page/1?logcode=p
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Post by: dom on 27 April 2014, 16:20
I did expect him to move on the price but he wasn't even up for knocking anything off what so ever.

That's a dealer for you. He knows that most people won't buy a car unless they've driven it, if you were serious he knows that you'd go back for a test drive next week. At that point he might negotiate, until then he's not going to be interested.
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 16:21
Just edited my post, hmm ok maybe its worth me booking a test drive and then seeing if hes willing to move on his price
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Post by: Wazzzer on 27 April 2014, 18:44
sounds like you want a minter and you won't be finding one of them at a dealer IMO. You need to buy one off an enthusiast but be prepared to pay for it
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Post by: AD1.8T on 27 April 2014, 18:54
Damn you nino im now looking at R32s!
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 18:58
sounds like you want a minter and you won't be finding one of them at a dealer IMO. You need to buy one off an enthusiast but be prepared to pay for it
+1 on this most dealers dont know much about them
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Post by: Rhyso on 27 April 2014, 19:24
sounds like you want a minter and you won't be finding one of them at a dealer IMO. You need to buy one off an enthusiast but be prepared to pay for it
+1 on this most dealers dont know much about them

Or cars in general  :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Wayne on 27 April 2014, 19:25
If it has not been looked after I would avoid it, even more at that the kind of money they are asking.
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 19:37
Just edited my post, hmm ok maybe its worth me booking a test drive and then seeing if hes willing to move on his price
sounds like you should find another 1 from as said someone who has looked after it  :smiley: or just buy a cheap 4motion an stick everything from your car on to it
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 20:51
I will defo not get that one I saw today I have rushed with cars everytime and each time I have been stung it might take me a few months but i'll take my time on this one lads :)
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Post by: AD1.8T on 27 April 2014, 20:57
Plus you can save up whatever the monthly payments are before you get the loan so you dont have to take out as much. I presume you have looked on the O.C
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 20:58
I will defo not get that one I saw today I have rushed with cars everytime and each time I have been stung it might take me a few months but i'll take my time on this one lads :)
this 1 looks clean  :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk4-VW-Golf-R32-immaculate-enthusiasts-car-DBP-3dr-full-leather-fsh-respray-/281307889301?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item417f41be95
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 21:02
Plus you can save up whatever the monthly payments are before you get the loan so you dont have to take out as much. I presume you have looked on the O.C

indeed but O.C?  :huh:
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 21:06
I will defo not get that one I saw today I have rushed with cars everytime and each time I have been stung it might take me a few months but i'll take my time on this one lads :)
this 1 looks clean  :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk4-VW-Golf-R32-immaculate-enthusiasts-car-DBP-3dr-full-leather-fsh-respray-/281307889301?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item417f41be95

I saw that but I am certain it is this? which he has not sold to his dad?  :undecided:
http://www.r32oc.com/topic/107697-vw-golf-r32-mk4-dbp-3dr-for-sale/
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Post by: AD1.8T on 27 April 2014, 21:11
Owners club I was being lazy lol theres a red 1 on there for 5k needs abit of tlc but its red who cares
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 21:18
I will defo not get that one I saw today I have rushed with cars everytime and each time I have been stung it might take me a few months but i'll take my time on this one lads :)
this 1 looks clean  :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk4-VW-Golf-R32-immaculate-enthusiasts-car-DBP-3dr-full-leather-fsh-respray-/281307889301?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item417f41be95

I saw that but I am certain it is this? which he has not sold to his dad?  :undecided:
http://www.r32oc.com/topic/107697-vw-golf-r32-mk4-dbp-3dr-for-sale/
looks clean and it sounds as if its been looked after an it says on ebay ad his dad is keeping air suspension  :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTC0iza8VPw
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 21:29
i'll txt him :)
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 21:32
i'll txt him :)
what do you like about the 32 thats making you want 1
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 21:38
Mainly due to the iconic part of what it is, but after sitting in one today I noticed the materail on the dash/vents doorcads etc are also different. Feels more expensive and oh ofc id be silly not to want that amazing sound.
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 21:40
Mainly due to the iconic part of what it is, but after sitting in one today I noticed the materail on the dash/vents doorcads etc are also different. Feels more expensive and oh ofc id be silly not to want that amazing sound.
with you on the sound they do sound great  :evil:
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Post by: Nino on 27 April 2014, 21:48
He just txt back his dad is having it :(
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Post by: barrym381 on 27 April 2014, 21:57
He just txt back his dad is having it :(
must be a good 1 then  :smiley: ask him much his dad wants for his 32
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Post by: damien010685 on 28 April 2014, 00:27
They do sound awesome but if you want a minter good luck as you will have to pay for it mate!! It's like any golf mint condition means cash!!! Yohan is selling. Mint r32 in aberdeen for 5800 and I mean it's mint I know everyone that has owned it and he has corrected everything that was wrong with it!!' Get a train up and buy it as it's immaculate!!
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 07:01
They do sound awesome but if you want a minter good luck as you will have to pay for it mate!! It's like any golf mint condition means cash!!! Yohan is selling. Mint r32 in aberdeen for 5800 and I mean it's mint I know everyone that has owned it and he has corrected everything that was wrong with it!!' Get a train up and buy it as it's immaculate!!

I did look at it in his ad but his paintwork looked different on the doors to the backend in his pics but i suppose that could be the camrea and lighting at the time. Its to far for me to travel id prob use about 4 tanks of fuel coming home. :(
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Post by: damien010685 on 28 April 2014, 08:16
His paintwork is spot on dude must have been the camera or light as you said :) it would be 2 tanks and a train dude ;)
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 08:44
His paintwork is spot on dude must have been the camera or light as you said :) it would be 2 tanks and a train dude ;)

Hmmmm I wonder...
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Post by: Rhyso on 28 April 2014, 14:37
His paintwork is spot on dude must have been the camera or light as you said :) it would be 2 tanks and a train dude ;)

Hmmmm I wonder...

Just think of the drive back......... :whistle: :evil:
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 15:24
His paintwork is spot on dude must have been the camera or light as you said :) it would be 2 tanks and a train dude ;)

Hmmmm I wonder...

Just think of the drive back......... :whistle: :evil:

Stop it lol
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 April 2014, 15:28
Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it Do it
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 19:05
Guys I have found my R32, I Just need to speak with the bank to sort the funds out and as long as it does not sell before I get to it, I am buying an R32 and has had everything done to it, Chains, clutch, everything oh and it has also I dunno been on tv and an episode of 5th gear!!!!!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZZqOuTKHBro/Uu_TLkmVbmI/AAAAAAAAQeI/veRXYyOibLM/w1195-h896-no/IMG_4258.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-98KjLVeyGKI/Uu_TUTu65nI/AAAAAAAAQe4/bmHeCY1rM-A/w1195-h896-no/IMG_4265.JPG)

And was even signed my Vikki butler from 5th gear!!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aBqu7bAQd4U/UrR1r1wZbYI/AAAAAAAAPMU/dv5bfFLWBTM/w1195-h896-no/IMG_3942.JPG)

You can watch the episode here..
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2410665

Its pricey at 8K and needs a new cat but other than that its a really good example and shes mint! I hope to god it doesn't sell before I get the funds sorted.
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Post by: dom on 28 April 2014, 19:22
Have you had a look to see how much new cats cost? You realise that there are two as well don't you?

Looks good though, I'd personally only get a 3dr R32 but you've picked the right colour and I'm guessing it's been well looked after :afro:
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 19:31
Have you had a look to see how much new cats cost? You realise that there are two as well don't you?

Looks good though, I'd personally only get a 3dr R32 but you've picked the right colour and I'm guessing it's been well looked after :afro:

I honestly haven't no. however, after speaking with the people that currently own it, it is there ex-demo car so alot of money has been spent onit, infact they have a build on there website showing all the work that has been done on the car in the two years they have had it.

The cat issue is a code that keeps popping up every now and again this is a quote from there build.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZBJ7STAGEuc/UiENfaj_1EI/AAAAAAAAMeM/NVY4XxBO-TA/w1195-h896-no/cattest.JPG)
"So with VCDS set up, I began the diagnostic procedures available to pin down the cause of the the very intermittent engine management light. All the lambda sensor tests were passed, the MAF peak flow is pretty spot on. Only test that doesn't seem to spec is catalyst efficiency on Bank 1. Bank 2 is shown above and field 3 is 0.00, on bank 1 this is around 0.60 which is outside 0.5 or lower spec. I suspect driving with a dead coil pack has caused the damage although car drives fine and may well pass MOT. Removing cats altogether is a popular mod to liberate power but not strictly legal and might be too noisy."
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Post by: dom on 28 April 2014, 19:48
The cats themselves are pretty expensive, but by the sounds of it it's only intermittent suggesting that the emissions are borderline. I reckon it'll be ok, if not it's an excuse to decat :evil:
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 19:59
The cats themselves are pretty expensive, but by the sounds of it it's only intermittent suggesting that the emissions are borderline. I reckon it'll be ok, if not it's an excuse to decat :evil:

I wouldnt decat it mate, keeping this standard if I get it apart from mk5 rear wiper and maybe tints.
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Post by: damien010685 on 28 April 2014, 20:02
Lot of money mate but looks ace!
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Post by: damien010685 on 28 April 2014, 20:04
And has to many doors.  :grin:
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 20:05
This is the ad for it, now can see why I want it :)

"2003 model year Mk4 Golf 3.2 R32 4motion, BFH coded 240 bhp petrol engine and 6 speed manual gearbox. Deep Blue Pearl Effect bodywork with extra cost option black leather Konig sports interior. Built at Bratislava plant and supplied by Pentraeth Ltd, Anglesey on 10/9/03 to a policeman. 5 owners plus our own project car since June 2013 (registered to us since August 2013 when number plate was changed, original CX53 VFV). We took it in part exchange against a very good 2001 Audi RS4 Avant which we sold to a teacher from north Nottinghamshire. He'd had the car from 12/11/2010 having purchased it from performance car specialist Redline in Harrogate. Not long after purchase, the engine management light illuminated due to timing chain wear and after a tussle chain replacement was performed under warranty in Jan 2011 at 64873 miles. In June 2011 at 66384 the clutch was replaced. These 2 jobs totalled around £2200 and could be due soon on any R32 currently for sale that hasn't already had this work. 4th owner was a gentleman from Leeds from 15/2/07.
80500 miles with a full service history in original service book supported by numerous receipts and old MOTs filed in binder including 3 oil changes in the last 3 months, one of which will be on TV. Serviced at 20139 (25/7/05), 34697 (16/11/06), 44411 (27/5/08), 55152 (24/8/09), 63379 (8/11/10), 68303 (25/10/11), 72462 (22/10/12). 81100 (30/1/14) A space in the service book has been left for an earlier first service but hasn't been filled in, in 2013 we have replaced spark plugs, air filter (ITG), pollen filter, fuel filter, oil and filter (twice, 1 of which will be on TV), front wishbones and ball joints, strut top mount rubbers and bearings, rear brake discs and pads, water pump, coolant, brake fluid, a brake caliper, both outer CV boots, nearside front wheel bearing/wheel bearing housing/track rod end, performed a Haldex oil and filter change. Only original quality or genuine VW parts used. MOT to October 2014. The catalytic converter is a bit tired and regularly logs an efficiency fault code which can put the engine management light on but it passed the MOT with no issues - we will clear the fault code for free during the buyer's ownership period, I carry an iOBD Bluetooth diagnostic device and clear the fault code with my smart phone.
Supplied with complete R32 branded owners manual pack. Original R32 floor mats in good condition. Spare key. Volkswizard branded number plates, solid aluminium billet R32 key fob, genuine VW headlamp protectors.
NO ROAD TAX SUPPLIED. Road tax rate of £154.00 for 6 months, £280 for 12 months. Co2 emissions of 276 g/km.
The standard interior on an R32 contained no leather - it was grey cloth seat centres and black leatherette bolsters, black leather as seen here was an extra cost option as was the very useful cruise control. Standard specification includes Climatronic climate control, xenon gas discharge headlamps with self levelling and wash functions, 18" 'Aristo' alloy wheels, brushed aluminium dash and door inserts, heated seats. We have fitted X-Car Link Ipod and Bluetooth modules. Luggage net included. The images below show an Audi TT spacesaver spare wheel which is included along with the standard R32 tool kit and tyre foam pack.
Performance modifications are as follows; Milltek resonated (the less noisy one) stainless steel exhaust fitted in 2008. ITG panel filter, DSG air intake trumpet fitted by us. We were unsure as to whether this R32 had been remapped so had this work performed by JKM Performance in October 2013 using a Revo map with a view to reducing the infamous jerky throttle but also to increase the rev limit to 7200 from the standard 6500.
In early July 2013 I took the car to GTI International with a view to sprinting it but decided not to due to wheel bearing noise, soon after with a new bearing I gave the car a shakedown at the VW Audi track day at Castle Combe and in late August it effortlessly whisked me to the Nurburgring, Rallye Deutschland and the Belgian Grand Prix, an epic road trip which was featured in the October 2013 VW Driver magazine. In late September 2013, I was asked by Fifth Gear to bring the car to Millbrook Proving Ground for Vicki Butler-Henderson to drive for an episode to be broadcast in early 2014, she very kindly signed the sun visor for posterity. October 2013 saw another visit to Castle Combe for Audi Driver International and a few laps of Curborough Sprint circuit which were repeated in early November and on Boxing Day.
The price is higher than average for an R32 at this mileage but this R32 is not average - we have finally had the wheels refurbished and also had the small amount of peeling lacquer on the nearside wing dealt with by Sprint Auto Services to make the car free of any significant cosmetic defects. In January 2014 all 4 tyres were replaced with Goodyear Eagle F1s - all this recent work adds up to £1000 and you are still getting an R32 with recently replaced clutch and chains - even at this price I doubt there will be any profit in this car. Genuinely sad to see it go as I have enjoyed every drive and it does everything I need from a car - sure it's not that great on fuel but can be coaxed up to 35mpg on a steady run and unlike other cars, it holds its value well so you may find that the total cost of TDI ownership is higher especially if you don't do over 10000 miles per year. "
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Post by: Rhyso on 28 April 2014, 20:26
Thats not an advert.......






Thats an essay!!! Lol
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 20:52
It gets worse, I just phoned the bank been on the blower for over 40mins and my load got approved............  :shocked:
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Post by: dom on 28 April 2014, 20:55
That's good news :afro:

How far is the car from you?
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Post by: Laser1974 on 28 April 2014, 20:57
Buy it  :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Post by: Nino on 28 April 2014, 21:03
That's good news :afro:

How far is the car from you?

Birmingham
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Post by: barrym381 on 28 April 2014, 21:26
a would have just got them to transfer the funds to seller an be on my way  :grin:
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Post by: Rhyso on 28 April 2014, 21:42
That's good news :afro:

How far is the car from you?

Birmingham

Less than 2 hours away :afro:

I bought my Audi from a garage in Birmingham
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Post by: Wayne on 28 April 2014, 23:40
I wouldnt decat it mate, keeping this standard if I get it apart from mk5 rear wiper and maybe tints.

Respect that but it is not standard now, it is nice but £8k is very strong money even more so with the cat issue.
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Post by: Nino on 29 April 2014, 07:05
I wouldnt decat it mate, keeping this standard if I get it apart from mk5 rear wiper and maybe tints.

Respect that but it is not standard now, it is nice but £8k is very strong money even more so with the cat issue.

Good point, i knew the mods that were already on there and i should of worded what i ment better. What i ment was i wont mod it further. Ideally id have the map removed but the map on there has only removed the hesitation and the the limiters. And the miltek is a must on an R32 however i wont be changing the wheels or anything else for that matter
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Post by: Nino on 29 April 2014, 19:55
Crap he's taken a deposit onit :(
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Post by: barrym381 on 29 April 2014, 20:00
Crap he's taken a deposit onit :(
your not having much luck mate getting a 32  :sad: fancy a 4mo 1.8t
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Post by: Nino on 30 April 2014, 06:37
Nope heart is set on a 32 now im really not having any decent examples :(
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Post by: damien010685 on 30 April 2014, 07:57
Telling ya yohans 1 is mint have seen it several times and wants for nothing mate
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Post by: davemk4 on 30 April 2014, 12:01
Supercharged r32 on ebay lol
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Post by: WadGTI on 30 April 2014, 12:52
Nope heart is set on a 32 now im really not having any decent examples :(

Sure I have seen a few up for sale in Scotland over the past weeks. R32's that is.
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Post by: Nino on 30 April 2014, 19:46
Telling ya yohans 1 is mint have seen it several times and wants for nothing mate

If he was closer id seriously consider it wonder if he would bring it to me lol
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Post by: barrym381 on 30 April 2014, 19:51
Telling ya yohans 1 is mint have seen it several times and wants for nothing mate

If he was closer id seriously consider it wonder if he would bring it to me lol
i drove a 4mo from wales in 1 tank of fuel  :wink: and you pay him a will deliver it  :laugh:
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Post by: Nino on 30 April 2014, 21:04
You know him peraonally? Get him involed in this topic
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Post by: Rhyso on 30 April 2014, 21:16
You know him peraonally? Get him involed in this topic

Fairly sure he is a member on here; drop him a PM  :wink:
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Post by: damien010685 on 30 April 2014, 21:55
I know him yes and can vouch for the car his add is in the 4sale section pm him!
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Post by: Nino on 01 May 2014, 06:27
PMed him
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Post by: Nino on 01 May 2014, 11:53
He sold it.... Im getting to the point where i dont think im ment to have one  :cry:
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: damien010685 on 01 May 2014, 12:46
Bummer couldn't of been long ago!!
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Wayne on 01 May 2014, 14:05
Sometimes it pays to wait, the right car will come along.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-3-2-V6-R32-3DR-SILVER-/221413874393?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item338d4b9ad9

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/03-Volkswagen-Golf-3-2-2003MY-R32-5-DOOR-BLUE-/291135573825?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43c9084f41
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Post by: Nino on 01 May 2014, 15:45
Sometimes it pays to wait, the right car will come along.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-3-2-V6-R32-3DR-SILVER-/221413874393?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item338d4b9ad9

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/03-Volkswagen-Golf-3-2-2003MY-R32-5-DOOR-BLUE-/291135573825?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43c9084f41

Just rang about the blue one and its sold  :cry:
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Post by: dom on 01 May 2014, 16:11
Sometimes it pays to wait, the right car will come along.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-3-2-V6-R32-3DR-SILVER-/221413874393?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item338d4b9ad9

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/03-Volkswagen-Golf-3-2-2003MY-R32-5-DOOR-BLUE-/291135573825?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43c9084f41

The silver one looks like it's got a replica front bumper fitted :undecided:
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Post by: dom on 01 May 2014, 16:15
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK4-R32-SUPERCHARGED-2003-/171313237721?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e3108ed9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK4-R32-SUPERCHARGED-2003-/171313237721?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e3108ed9)

^^^^ :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: Nino on 01 May 2014, 16:31
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOL
VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK4-R32-SUPERCHARGED-2003-/171313237721?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e3108ed9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK4-R32-SUPERCHARGED-2003-/171313237721?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e3108ed9)

^^^^ :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

I saw that to modded for me
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Post by: Wazzzer on 01 May 2014, 16:58
Now if I wanted an R32 that would be the one Dom...
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Post by: dom on 01 May 2014, 17:59
Now if I wanted an R32 that would be the one Dom...

It's a pretty amazing spec isn't it :cool:
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Post by: Bandit127 on 01 May 2014, 18:37
I am with Nino.

A car like that on SORN?!?!? My humble, standard 1.8t just wants to be driven and rewards me on many levels - even on the crawl to work.

It is either too precious to drive or the balance and finesse is just gone.

The only time the current owner probably gets rewarded for ownership is in the pub bragging contest.
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 01 May 2014, 21:35
I may of found another one, but really need guidance for you lot please... Tax ran out yesterday, been speaking to this guy for a few days, he says it has full Service history but not many receipts for 100% proof he said the book has 8 stamps in total so I guess I could contact the garages? it is due a service now and ofc tax, only thing that puts me off is that fact it has not had the clutch, chains or flywheel done, he originally wanted £6500 but after I brought all the above to his attention he is willing to let me have it for £5800...

Service history is as follows...

Current mileage is 87k so in my eyes its 7k overdue. He has said it has had a couple of Heldex services within this, I am awaiting his reply as to when and if it was oil and filter or just oil.
What you lot think? should alarm bells be ringing?

He also emailed me pics below..


(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo14_zpse4c8e59a.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo12_zps67ac44e3.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo11_zps860b237b.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo10_zps7b3f8522.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo9_zps11e649bf.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo8_zps83262ae7.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo6_zps88b48232.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo5_zps6af72ce9.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo4_zps44a20c33.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo3_zps2d0a304e.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo2_zpse2703048.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo13_zpsd9598f6d.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo1_zpsf09afbfd.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: damien010685 on 01 May 2014, 22:26
5 Doors!!   
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 02 May 2014, 06:18
5 Doors!!

That dont bother me im trying to thino practical im planning on keeping for many years to which one day in the next few years i might have kids ;)
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Wazzzer on 02 May 2014, 09:07
I think with any car this age unless it's been owned by an enthusiast it's going to have a had a few service things slip, it's just a case of whether you're confident that this won't have affected the haldex etc.

I certainly wouldn't let the clutch put me off
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Wayne on 02 May 2014, 10:27
Looks ok but missed service would worry me as it suggests being run on a tight budget.
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 02 May 2014, 11:34
Looks ok but missed service would worry me as it suggests being run on a tight budget.

I know what you mean. Ive taken a good look at the history feom what ibe been told. As long as the heldex system in my calculations has had at least 3 oil changes and 1 hopefully 2 filter changes i might considder it. I have spoken to euro Performance vw specialist have a really good name up here they have told me they will perform a major service on this for me including sparks, all filters etc etc 41 point check and heldex full system service for £360 all in. Which including the car price is £6160. From what i can see the car has had two instances where the service has been done late. Service 1 which was 3k overdue, service 3 which was 6k overdue and the 3rd one which is due now which would be 7k overdue.
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 02 May 2014, 21:04
OK this is the full story with the service history, the car clearly now requires a full on major service which I am prepeared to do, what do you experirenced lot think of this?

Service history is as follows...

Stamp 1: 1st service @ 13,125 Oil changed, inspection service and longlife oil used 29/07/2005 VW stamp
Stamp 2: 2nd @ 21,890 Oil changed, inspection service and brake fluid changed 10/04/2006 VW stamp
Stamp 3: 3rd @ 36,017 Inspection service and Heldex serviced (Oil & filter) 11/10/2006 VW stamp
Stamp 4: 4th @ 44,797 Oil changed 23/01/2008 Not serviced at VW
Stamp 5: 5th @ 49,212 Oil changed, inspection service spark plugs and air filter and Heldex service 08/10/2008 VW stamp
Stamp 6: 6th @ 54,683 Oil changed 21/11/2009 Not serviced at VW
Stamp 7: 7th @ 60,784 Oil changed, inspection service and longlife oil used 19/11/2010 Not serviced at VW
Stamp 8: 8th @ 70,013Oil changed, inspection service, brake fluid, air filter and longlife oil used 11/11/11 VW stamp

Pictures that he sent me...

(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo1_zps42cb5792.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo2_zpsaf575fbc.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo3_zpsf4d73932.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo4_zps390dbf39.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo5_zps472072c8.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo6_zps72358ddd.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo7_zps576f990a.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/photo8_zps621e92b3.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Wayne on 03 May 2014, 00:02
For the money your spending I would prefer all main dealer stamps or at least a well known specialist, once cheaper garages start doing work it smacks of low funds to run the car.

Bills to back up the stamps are always nice, stamped book means nothing mine has 12 stamps in the book and no real bills but with what I have found out since buying it they mean sod all tbh.
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 03 May 2014, 06:22
Well my max budget is around 7.8k this was marked up for 6.5 but hes willing to now accept 5.7 i might veiw it...
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Wazzzer on 03 May 2014, 10:13
anyone else notice the blue around the centre vent? Almost like it's had a replacement front bumper...
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 03 May 2014, 10:34
Yeah I noticed that, I just did a gold HPI check, only thing that came back was numberplate change but I am goign to go look at the car today so will take a massive look at it, im also going to take my vagcom to scan her, not told me him yet lol...

So far it seems he is genuine. I asked him how long he has had the car and and he said around 3-4 months and hes only selling it due to cost of running it.
The HPI shows change of ownership in Jan 2014 and last recorded mileage was 84k which under my understanding would of been when he MOTd it in Feb as its now on 87k.

The fact he has not serviced it suggests to me he cannot afford to run it.

The poor bugger I am seriousl going to go over this with a fine tooth combe.

If I buy it its going straight into euro performance for a full MASSIVE serivce and I will be changing everything accept the Chains, clutch & flywheel.

i'll tax it for a year and i might even pop into Prospeed for a custom catback, have the back passenger doors tinted then have it mopped and professionally detailed (including engine bay) get the leather professonally treated and leave it there, oh i'll also get R mats if it does not have any.

From that point onwards I will be as anal with my paintwork as I am with my 1.8t.
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: damien010685 on 03 May 2014, 12:06
Lol So you budget after all that is going to wiped haha good luck mate! a lot of money chief but as long as your happy..
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: barrym381 on 03 May 2014, 13:35
what about this  :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Golf-R32-3-2-V6-250-4Motion-DSG-6Speed-STUNNING-CAR-Quick-/171288040966?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e1901606
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: GTi_James on 03 May 2014, 17:34
what about this  :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Golf-R32-3-2-V6-250-4Motion-DSG-6Speed-STUNNING-CAR-Quick-/171288040966?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e1901606

God damn! If I weren't buying a house I'd consider this one! God damn life priorities and women!  :sick:
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 04 May 2014, 07:33
what about this  :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Golf-R32-3-2-V6-250-4Motion-DSG-6Speed-STUNNING-CAR-Quick-/171288040966?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e1901606

Saw that bud dont want automatic
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: damien010685 on 04 May 2014, 07:40
what about this  :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Golf-R32-3-2-V6-250-4Motion-DSG-6Speed-STUNNING-CAR-Quick-/171288040966?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e1901606

Saw that bud dont want automatic

It has Paddles!!
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: Nino on 04 May 2014, 08:31
OK so went to veiw this black R32, the guy could not of been any nicer (but I suppose everyone is nice when they are selling something) there were a few things I spotted and this car clearly needs love. I.E the R32 pedals are missing, the mats are not the R ones and the engine cover is missing all stuff I don't mind replacing tbh.

I checked everything I could think of, the heated seats works, I did the fan check on the climatronic all ok, discs all round look less than a year old with the rears being grooved and the fronts having no dips or scoring & having what I spotted as Red stuff pads.  :cool:

the paintwork needs a mop but no dents, no marks, just swirls in the laccer where you can clearly see washing up liquid and a cheap sponge from home bargins has been used.

That blue thing near the bottom vent was just blue piping to match the brake calipers which I pealed off easy.

I even scanned the car and the only error's that came up was the doors were open (which at the time they were lol) and an error around the Climatronic re-serc motion, you know that setting where you turn off all air from outside.

The aircon was freezing  :cool: and everything worked as it should.

The factory extra's where full leather and cruise control which I tested and works a treat.

The front tyres might need changing at the next MOT.

Then it was time for a test drive!!

O.........M......Actual G!!!! it handles better than any car I have driven to date, he took us to somewhere I could test it correctly, we hit a bend at around 60 (I will point out the speed limited was 70 as it was off the M4) anyway in any normal car even my GTI anything over 40 and you would prob feel the back give or lose control compeltely but OMG this car stuck to the corner like it was on rails. That 4wd system is amazing! I knew the drive would be different than my GTI but not expect this.

Then I tested the cruise control and it worked a treat. :)

So total outcome was I managed to get him to tax it and all in from the £6500 price he wanted I paid £5850!

on our way home we asked him to keep it insured until we got it home so my cuz drove the R32 home on his policy 3rd party. As i wouldn't be able to drive it as I just got the car I need to ensure I insure it, I know I could of just given the others guys name and say Im borrowing it over the weekend but didnt want to take the chance.

Quick picture at the stopoff at the services :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10176215_10154136567300014_2943050329949983061_n.jpg)

The sound on this R32 is isane considdering its standard.
I stayed behind my cuz all the way home, he hit the crusie control and we stayed around 60-65 apart from the odd overtake etc.

When we pulled up the reading on my GTI was 38.7 MPG the reading on the R32 was 31.7!!!!! and that before a service!!  :shocked:

The car is now parked on my drive, I am going to go give it the clean of its life! then soon as I can get it booked into Euro performance im having the following done.

All this will more than likely cost me around £500ish but I had 8k for a car im getting this perfect I might even have the clutch changed as well if it needs it.

Plan then is to have the wheels refurbished and get the paintwork mint no matter what then and only then will I enjoy the car  :cool:

EDIT: Forgot to add upon checking the paperwork with this car, I have noticed recipts from TPS from July last year it seems the last owner did a self service oil, filter and heldex oil @ 78k just didnt write it in the book the current owner didn't even know this.

It has also had the speed sensor replaced and a new door lock and bosch s4 battery in september.  :cool:
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Post by: Carl! on 04 May 2014, 09:49
Wow you are thorough!
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Post by: davemk4 on 04 May 2014, 10:07
now i want a r32
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Post by: Scott-R on 04 May 2014, 11:57
That's a really nice R32 bud, hope your really happy!

When's the project thread starting? :drool:?
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Post by: Rhyso on 04 May 2014, 13:34
FYI is HALDEX not heldex

Though hell is what it will put you through if it goes wrong  :laugh:
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this.... EDIT R32 now bought PAGE14
Post by: Nino on 04 May 2014, 19:51
I have spent alot of today cleaning the old girl and working on the swirls in the laccer, and its coming on nicley :)

Gave her two very good washing using my decent stuff, she came up nice but the laccer needs some TLC  :rolleyes:
Some might notice the missing R32 badge on the back i took it off to clean behind it :)

(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0568_zpszfwrsn6q.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0564_zpsv56bozt3.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0569_zpspida4jzx.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0563_zpsl8mofoyp.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0567_zpsby3nni5r.jpg)


then I got to work abit later on when the sun wasnt beaming on my car and tired to work on this laccer problem. :undecided:
Best pic I could get of the the bad stuff, this is all over the car.  :lipsrsealed:

BEFORE
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0571_zpsbv9s8kr3.jpg)

And after a good bit of work she now at this stage, not finished yet though :)

AFTER
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0572_zpssjrvhpnj.jpg)


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Post by: Bandit127 on 04 May 2014, 20:02
You have plenty of time for the detail.

In the meantime it does look bloody lovely. The stance is perfect. I want a set of those wheels for my 1.8T. (Or is that cheating?)

Good to see you got sorted after all of the hassle.
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Post by: barrym381 on 04 May 2014, 20:07
You have plenty of time for the detail.

In the meantime it does look bloody lovely. The stance is perfect. I want a set of those wheels for my 1.8T. (Or is that cheating?)

Good to see you got sorted after all of the hassle.
the wheels and the seats you mean  :wink:
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Post by: GTi_James on 04 May 2014, 20:28
Oooooo shiny lol need to straighten the paint work out on my motor to be honest
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Post by: dom on 04 May 2014, 20:35
Looks like a good buy, glad you finally got one :afro:

I'm going to tidy up this thread to remove all the insurance arguing, it's irrelevant. If you're going to turn it into a build thread then I'll see if I can figure out how to split the topic in two from when you bought it and move one to dub rides if you want me to?

What did you use to correct the paint?
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Post by: dom on 04 May 2014, 20:38
Tidied up, lets try and keep it on topic everyone :afro:
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Post by: GTi_James on 04 May 2014, 20:59
Tidied up, lets try and keep it on topic everyone :afro:

 :lipsrsealed:  :laugh:
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Post by: james2 on 04 May 2014, 21:04
I have spent alot of today cleaning the old girl and working on the swirls in the laccer, and its coming on nicley :)

Gave her two very good washing using my decent stuff, she came up nice but the laccer needs some TLC  :rolleyes:
Some might notice the missing R32 badge on the back i took it off to clean behind it :)

(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0568_zpszfwrsn6q.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0564_zpsv56bozt3.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0569_zpspida4jzx.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0563_zpsl8mofoyp.jpg)
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0567_zpsby3nni5r.jpg)


then I got to work abit later on when the sun wasnt beaming on my car and tired to work on this laccer problem. :undecided:
Best pic I could get of the the bad stuff, this is all over the car.  :lipsrsealed:

BEFORE
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0571_zpsbv9s8kr3.jpg)

And after a good bit of work she now at this stage, not finished yet though :)

AFTER
(http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Ninof/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0572_zpssjrvhpnj.jpg)
Nice car man, i might get one of these instead of a subaru wrx. Has it got more power than the 1.8t mapped ? (can you notice it)  .Also i want a black one so i can put my black alloys on it.  :smiley:
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Post by: Wazzzer on 04 May 2014, 21:21
I can do it if you want Dom, would make sense. Also intrigued to know what you used on the swirls as mine is covered in them lol
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Post by: james2 on 04 May 2014, 21:31
I can do it if you want Dom, would make sense. Also intrigued to know what you used on the swirls as mine is covered in them lol
Auto glym is good on black cars  :smiley: Made mine look mint.  :cool:
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Post by: navmk4gti on 04 May 2014, 21:59
Good buy nino.. Youll defo enjoy it  :cool:

miss my 4mo ..r32 next on cards for me too after sorted bloody house sale out :grin:
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this.... EDIT R32 now bought PAGE14
Post by: Nino on 05 May 2014, 06:55
Cheers lads. I use products like maguires or auto glym only. What i did was gave the car two washea uaing maguires shampoo the purple one lol then i used my maguires water magnet to dry it. After the sun went abit i used maguires compond polish a maguires application pad and microfibre cloth. You work small areas at a time rubbing on the compound in circle motions then give it a few mins and buff it off with the microfibre. It will take about 2 hours to use this on the whole car after that you need to seal it. I will seal it with autoglyms super resin polish then after that ill be using a carbinaria wax. But i am also going to use my cuz auto mopping machine to get it looking the best it can. Halfords got a 3 for 2 offer on take advantage. :)
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Post by: damien010685 on 05 May 2014, 07:52
The Auto Finesse range is epic especially there citrus prewash!! some autoglym products IMo are utter crap for the price  http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/autosmart-car-cleaning-products.aspx  great place to buy from and the products are reviewed No halfords sh!te here!
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Post by: dom on 05 May 2014, 09:46
I can do it if you want Dom, would make sense. Also intrigued to know what you used on the swirls as mine is covered in them lol

If you've got access to a d/a then Menzerna FG400 on a white Menzerna pad got rid of all swirls on mine with a couple of passes. :cool:

I like some Autoglym products, their glass polish and aqua wax are very good, as Damien says Auto Finesse products are excellent. I'm also a big fan of Kleenfreaks wax.
Title: Re: Seriously, Seriously, seriously considdering this....
Post by: dom on 05 May 2014, 09:47
Also this pic:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10176215_10154136567300014_2943050329949983061_n.jpg)

Shows the big difference between rep and genuine R32 front bumpers.
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Post by: Nino on 05 May 2014, 10:06
Agreed
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Post by: Rhyso on 05 May 2014, 10:14
Waxamomo have 15% off this weekend  :whistle:

Need to step up your product range; Megs and Auto Glym are ok for the occasional detailer but you want really decent stuff to help keep that .:R looking mint  :wink:
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Post by: barrym381 on 05 May 2014, 10:19
Waxamomo have 15% off this weekend  :whistle:

Need to step up your product range; Megs and Auto Glym are ok for the occasional detailer but you want really decent stuff to help keep that .:R looking mint  :wink:
or just send it for a proper detail to get you started  :wink:
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Post by: scarr89 on 05 May 2014, 12:05
Good effort mate. Glad someone is still enjoying life!

Car looks ace...Quid says it won't stay standard for very long!  :whistle:
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Post by: Nino on 05 May 2014, 12:11
Waxamomo have 15% off this weekend  :whistle:

Need to step up your product range; Megs and Auto Glym are ok for the occasional detailer but you want really decent stuff to help keep that .:R looking mint  :wink:
or just send it for a proper detail to get you started  :wink:

I am considering this bud want to have a go myself first.
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Post by: XMC1980 on 05 May 2014, 23:50
Love it bro! Enjoy
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Post by: Wayne on 10 May 2014, 10:08
Good luck with it and enjoy it.
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Post by: barrym381 on 19 May 2014, 01:52
another decent r32 for those now looking at them  :smiley:

http://www.scottishvag.net/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=118264
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Post by: Rhyso on 19 May 2014, 08:51
another decent r32 for those now looking at them  :smiley:

http://www.scottishvag.net/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=118264

Need to register to view it  :undecided:
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Post by: barrym381 on 19 May 2014, 18:49
another decent r32 for those now looking at them  :smiley:

http://www.scottishvag.net/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=118264

Need to register to view it  :undecided:
worth it though  :wink:
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Post by: Rhyso on 19 May 2014, 19:18
another decent r32 for those now looking at them  :smiley:

http://www.scottishvag.net/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=118264

Need to register to view it  :undecided:
worth it though  :wink:

Not for a MK4 it isnt  :laugh:
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Post by: barrym381 on 19 May 2014, 21:06
another decent r32 for those now looking at them  :smiley:

http://www.scottishvag.net/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=118264

Need to register to view it  :undecided:
worth it though  :wink:

Not for a MK4 it isnt  :laugh:
:grin: :grin:  only if you want a mk4 r32 then  :whistle: