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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Shizzle on 25 February 2014, 10:20
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I was overtaking a car at around 60 - 70mph at 6000 odd RPM and a massive cloud of smoke came out the back i could see a thing behind me. My instant thought was piston rings as car was still driving ok then after letting off back to normal revs car was fine have done over 200 miles since then and not one problem what could have caused this not low on any fluids either.
I was worried my 180k engine was about to finally let me down :cry:.
But thank god drives like new :whistle:
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So flat out in 2nd :grin: valves going like the clappers and smoke. Your valve guide seals are worn and letting oil pass into the cylinder. Also your rings will be worn and letting bit more oil into the cylinders too and on ignition the oil is burnt off.
It should be using oil!
It could also be head gasket. As the revs are up and pressure a the coolant could be passing the gasket into the cylinder.
Was it white smoke or blue?
If you leave the car off for a few hours and start it does it kick a bit of smoke out? Try standing at the door and start it with foot on the throttle and see if theres smoke.
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Nope no smoke at all and using no oil this incident happened in Norfolk over 100 miles away has been stop started and revved like it should be since then :wink:
Not one bit of blue smoke funny idle loss of water or any running problems smoke was a darkish colour was only like 3 seconds worth but a lot of smoke to cover two lanes of road.
I have stop started and revved the car cold since this happened with no smoke at all.
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if you dont drive it like that very often you can get build up of stuff that when you floor it it clears it out a bit.
when i first got my abf my mate was driving it in front of me and and floored it when we got on the motorway and bit of darkish smoke came out for like a second or two and since then i have never seen it smoke at all.
previous owner was a woman who only used it to take kids to school 5 mins down the road so dont think it had been floored in a long time.
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yeah maybe that it never drive fast with little one in car but when people drive 30 on a 60 for 6 miles i need to over take :evil:
at least its nothing serious thank you.
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Did you by any chance overfill the oil?
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nope about 2mm above maximum as always as i say it was dark brown smoke didn't look blue and was definitely not white.
I have put my foot down previous to this event with no smoke or any problems and oil change was done over a month ago now and not been topped up since.
So to much oil is not the issue but it is very puzzling.
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Does your car ever just behave itself?!
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nope keeps me busy on a evening but the joys of high mileage 17yr old car but to be fair i do around 400 miles every weekend and it has not broken down just has its moments lol.
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Dont worry about it then
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Why would you have your oil above the max? ie over full! ,i have my level halfway between as too much oil and lots of revs not only creates excess crank case pressure which stresses seals ,its also harder for the crank to wade through the extra oil reducing performance.
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nope about 2mm above maximum as always as i say it was dark brown smoke didn't look blue and was definitely not white.
I have put my foot down previous to this event with no smoke or any problems and oil change was done over a month ago now and not been topped up since.
So to much oil is not the issue but it is very puzzling.
DO NOT OVERFILL YOUR OIL!!!!!
Thats what caused the huge billowing of smoke!
You will kill your engine by doing this!
halfway between MIN and MAX is where it should be.
Your sudden burst of power caused oil to pass the rings due to excess pressure in the bottom end/sump
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nope about 2mm above maximum as always as i say it was dark brown smoke didn't look blue and was definitely not white.
I have put my foot down previous to this event with no smoke or any problems and oil change was done over a month ago now and not been topped up since.
So to much oil is not the issue but it is very puzzling.
DO NOT OVERFILL YOUR OIL!!!!!
Thats what caused the huge billowing of smoke!
You will kill your engine by doing this!
halfway between MIN and MAX is where it should be.
Your sudden burst of power caused oil to pass the rings due to excess pressure in the bottom end/sump
Agreed ! when i bought my abf It had to much oil I drained it straight away to the correct level.
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Been like this for along time also as I said previously not blue smoke after investigation tonight my air sensor was not connected as wires had snapped brown smoke means it was fueling causing brown smoke nothing to do with the oil at all I have had my car like this for over 6 months with not 1 problem with blue smoke or running problems.
Surely a maximum line is a good line to fill to car drives superb other wise.
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I've always had mine full up to the max line! Change my oil every 5 k been like that for 23 k now with no issues never smoked once!
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As stated before. Best to have it in the middle!!
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well i think its just down to opinion i bet you 50% of people fill car to max with no problems i work in the largest Alfa Romeo specialist in the country and only problem we ever see is under filling not over filling.
my 5 years in a garage i have never heard of engine fail due to oil being on maximum but im not that paranoid to worry about half a litre of oil more, when oil is pushing out the breather pipes i will worry :whistle:
all 16 cars i have had have owned have always been on max not one engine failure due to this.
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Always filled mine to the max. About 1mm below
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When I worked at halfords a customer needed some oil to top up his mk2.
He bought a 5 litre bottle and proceeded to pour the ENTIRE bottle into his engine. Needless to say there was uber amounts of smoke, and the engine was coughing oil out of every breather!
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this is extreme over filling this would make the oil way above max level, 5 litres in a engine with oil already in it will cause damage yes.
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this is extreme over filling this would make the oil way above max level, 5 litres in a engine with oil already in it will cause damage yes.
Indeed, on a side note I keep my car at the max level, never had an issue...