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Title: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 24 February 2014, 00:08
Hi there lads, I've just bought a newly built Fully Forged 1.8t AGU engine that has been bored out to a 2.1L using only the best parts available, please see the list of parts on the receipts in the pictures  :grin:

Im now at the stage where I need to buy the injectors, turbo, manifold, uprated fuel pump etc

The engine is good for massive power 700-800bhp... but I'm looking to push a nice 550bhp without watermeth and 600bhp with the watermeth active

Thinking of running a GT3582r turbo and TSR manifold but I'm looking for any decent info / knowledge that any one can pass on to me, that will help me continue this engine build  :grin:
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Feel free to message me with any decent ideas or info
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: GTi_James on 24 February 2014, 00:20
holey ectoplasm batman! very nice indeed!
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: navmk4gti on 24 February 2014, 12:32
That going into a fwd? :lipsrsealed: some nice engine porn  :grin:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 25 February 2014, 00:01
holey ectoplasm batman! very nice indeed!
Nice one mate, its a beast of an engine, just undecided as to what turbo to run ???  :undecided:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 25 February 2014, 00:06
That going into a fwd? :lipsrsealed: some nice engine porn  :grin:
Oh no dude got some big plans for the car, going to use the rear floor pan out of an S3 and the 4wd running gear, going to strip the interior out at the end of summer, cage it and fit two Porsche GT3 carbon seats that I've got here :smiley:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: navmk4gti on 25 February 2014, 12:46
That going into a fwd? :lipsrsealed: some nice engine porn  :grin:
Oh no dude got some big plans for the car, going to use the rear floor pan out of an S3 and the 4wd running gear, going to strip the interior out at the end of summer, cage it and fit two Porsche GT3 carbon seats that I've got here :smiley:

Going to be a beast mate.. good your going for the 4wd platform..  i never understood why people go for huge power on fwd  :lipsrsealed::smiley:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 25 February 2014, 19:25
That going into a fwd? :lipsrsealed: some nice engine porn  :grin:
Oh no dude got some big plans for the car, going to use the rear floor pan out of an S3 and the 4wd running gear, going to strip the interior out at the end of summer, cage it and fit two Porsche GT3 carbon seats that I've got here :smiley:
have seen this done before  :wink: you would be better just buying my car  :whistle:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: davidgtrr34 on 25 February 2014, 20:31
I didn't see any upgraded main bearings or rod bearing.
check to see what they used because oem bearings wont last long at that power and will result in a major bottom end rebuild.
Also upgraded camshafts would be a great upgrade for that power and a 2mm steel headgasket would lower compression to 8-5-1 which is better for high boost.
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: GTi_James on 25 February 2014, 21:52
your missus happy with you then? lol
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 25 February 2014, 23:38
That going into a fwd? :lipsrsealed: some nice engine porn  :grin:
Oh no dude got some big plans for the car, going to use the rear floor pan out of an S3 and the 4wd running gear, going to strip the interior out at the end of summer, cage it and fit two Porsche GT3 carbon seats that I've got here :smiley:
have seen this done before  :wink: you would be better just buying my car  :whistle:
What car you got dude ???  :grin:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 25 February 2014, 23:43
That going into a fwd? :lipsrsealed: some nice engine porn  :grin:
Oh no dude got some big plans for the car, going to use the rear floor pan out of an S3 and the 4wd running gear, going to strip the interior out at the end of summer, cage it and fit two Porsche GT3 carbon seats that I've got here :smiley:

Going to be a beast mate.. good your going for the 4wd platform..  i never understood why people go for huge power on fwd  :lipsrsealed::smiley:
Gona keep my Candy White one as she is mate, the car runs perfect and its f&%$ing quick man for 320bhp it eats my mates 360bhp s3 lol  :grin: then i got the best of both worlds
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 25 February 2014, 23:47
your missus happy with you then? lol
Haha..... she's given up tryna stop me now lol  :cool: plus she's got a 280bhp mk2 Cupra R so i just buy bits for hers to and it keeps her happy too
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 25 February 2014, 23:55
I didn't see any upgraded main bearings or rod bearing.
check to see what they used because oem bearings wont last long at that power and will result in a major bottom end rebuild.
Also upgraded camshafts would be a great upgrade for that power and a 2mm steel headgasket would lower compression to 8-5-1 which is better for high boost.
Thanks for the info David i will check with the guy I've bought it off, thats not all the receipts he has, there the only pics i have at the moment until its delivered buddy, what i do no is that the guy thats built it is an audisport member called Andrew@ALD think he's from Scotland, have you hear of him ???

can you recommend a camshaft and where's best to get the 2mm steel head gasket ???
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: Scott D on 26 February 2014, 19:02
Will be a beast this car once completed with 4wd and 550bhp :)

Out of interest how effective have you found the LSD?
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 26 February 2014, 19:43
Will be a beast this car once completed with 4wd and 550bhp :)

Out of interest how effective have you found the LSD?
hey scott its gonna be epic mate just take my time with the build  :smiley:

the LSD has shown a massive improvement with launches and overall laying the power down, the car also feels more aggressive  :grin: a must have for running 300+ bhp on a fwd mate

id recommend not to buy a cheap LSD well worth paying the extra for a Quaife etc
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: davidgtrr34 on 26 February 2014, 19:52
Integrated engineering make 3 different camshafts for 3 different power levels.

http://www.performancebyie.com/valvetrain?cat=91&engine=174

This is the only head gasket I could find

http://store.034motorsport.com/head-gasket-compression-dropping-multi-layer-steel-20v-1-8t-20694.html

Also do you plan on raising the rpm limit.
If you raise it you will have problems with standard valve springs 
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 26 February 2014, 20:08
Integrated engineering make 3 different camshafts for 3 different power levels.

http://www.performancebyie.com/valvetrain?cat=91&engine=174

This is the only head gasket I could find

http://store.034motorsport.com/head-gasket-compression-dropping-multi-layer-steel-20v-1-8t-20694.html

Also do you plan on raising the rpm limit.
If you raise it you will have problems with standard valve springs
Hi David its got full supertech set up on the valves and springs buddy, I've been in hospital today having a major opp on my right hand and really struggling here  :sad: ill take a look at those cams
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 26 February 2014, 22:53
That going into a fwd? :lipsrsealed: some nice engine porn  :grin:
Oh no dude got some big plans for the car, going to use the rear floor pan out of an S3 and the 4wd running gear, going to strip the interior out at the end of summer, cage it and fit two Porsche GT3 carbon seats that I've got here :smiley:
have seen this done before  :wink: you would be better just buying my car  :whistle:
What car you got dude ???  :grin:
a mk4 thats had all that work done to it with the ko4 conversion  :smiley:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 28 February 2014, 16:00
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 28 February 2014, 16:01
think I'm going down the gt3582r route for the turbo lads  :smiley: what do you think ???
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 01 March 2014, 12:38
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 01 March 2014, 13:40
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
a 4 motion it came from  :smiley: and it was nothing to do with me it being done a previous owner done that,i just had to stick a new turbo and some other bits on it when i got it 
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 03 March 2014, 02:00
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
a 4 motion it came from  :smiley: and it was nothing to do with me it being done a previous owner done that,i just had to stick a new turbo and some other bits on it when i got it
haha...... got ya mate thought you'd done it, just bought another monster of a car picking it up on wednesday ill keep ya posted, its a massive specced out mk4 with 480bhp fully forged 2.0 16v lump, cosworth WRC engine management system etc !!! propa bit of kit dude
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 03 March 2014, 18:41
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
a 4 motion it came from  :smiley: and it was nothing to do with me it being done a previous owner done that,i just had to stick a new turbo and some other bits on it when i got it
haha...... got ya mate thought you'd done it, just bought another monster of a car picking it up on wednesday ill keep ya posted, its a massive specced out mk4 with 480bhp fully forged 2.0 16v lump, cosworth WRC engine management system etc !!! propa bit of kit dude
a red 1 by anychance  :undecided:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 03 March 2014, 23:41
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
a 4 motion it came from  :smiley: and it was nothing to do with me it being done a previous owner done that,i just had to stick a new turbo and some other bits on it when i got it
haha...... got ya mate thought you'd done it, just bought another monster of a car picking it up on wednesday ill keep ya posted, its a massive specced out mk4 with 480bhp fully forged 2.0 16v lump, cosworth WRC engine management system etc !!! propa bit of kit dude
a red 1 by anychance  :undecided:
it is mate lol do you no of the car ???
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 04 March 2014, 00:00
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
a 4 motion it came from  :smiley: and it was nothing to do with me it being done a previous owner done that,i just had to stick a new turbo and some other bits on it when i got it
haha...... got ya mate thought you'd done it, just bought another monster of a car picking it up on wednesday ill keep ya posted, its a massive specced out mk4 with 480bhp fully forged 2.0 16v lump, cosworth WRC engine management system etc !!! propa bit of kit dude
a red 1 by anychance  :undecided:
it is mate lol do you no of the car ???
pretty sure i was bidding on it a while back on ebay  :smiley: is it not 380bhp and its still in scotland

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-MK4-GOLF-2-0-16V-TURBO-4MOTION-380-BHP-FORGED-NOT-EVO-STI-COSWORTH-RS-/181274896601?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a34d368d9&clk_rvr_id=596268537115&afsrc=1
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 04 March 2014, 00:48
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
a 4 motion it came from  :smiley: and it was nothing to do with me it being done a previous owner done that,i just had to stick a new turbo and some other bits on it when i got it
haha...... got ya mate thought you'd done it, just bought another monster of a car picking it up on wednesday ill keep ya posted, its a massive specced out mk4 with 480bhp fully forged 2.0 16v lump, cosworth WRC engine management system etc !!! propa bit of kit dude
a red 1 by anychance  :undecided:
it is mate lol do you no of the car ???
pretty sure i was bidding on it a while back on ebay  :smiley: is it not 380bhp and its still in scotland

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-MK4-GOLF-2-0-16V-TURBO-4MOTION-380-BHP-FORGED-NOT-EVO-STI-COSWORTH-RS-/181274896601?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a34d368d9&clk_rvr_id=596268537115&afsrc=1
haha....... thats the one lol yeah its 380 on 1 bar 480 on 1.8 bar it got 3 boost settings
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 04 March 2014, 06:54
you got any pics barrym ???  :smiley:
nice work that barrym, the floor pan out of an 4motion or s3 ???
a 4 motion it came from  :smiley: and it was nothing to do with me it being done a previous owner done that,i just had to stick a new turbo and some other bits on it when i got it
haha...... got ya mate thought you'd done it, just bought another monster of a car picking it up on wednesday ill keep ya posted, its a massive specced out mk4 with 480bhp fully forged 2.0 16v lump, cosworth WRC engine management system etc !!! propa bit of kit dude
a red 1 by anychance  :undecided:
it is mate lol do you no of the car ???
pretty sure i was bidding on it a while back on ebay  :smiley: is it not 380bhp and its still in scotland

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-MK4-GOLF-2-0-16V-TURBO-4MOTION-380-BHP-FORGED-NOT-EVO-STI-COSWORTH-RS-/181274896601?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a34d368d9&clk_rvr_id=596268537115&afsrc=1
haha....... thats the one lol yeah its 380 on 1 bar 480 on 1.8 bar it got 3 boost settings
:grin: :grin: have you even drove the car   :undecided:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: damien010685 on 04 March 2014, 18:53
Know the lad that's selling that thing!!! its f**king evil!!! he spent a lot of time on that motor was just a standard silver 4mo in the beginning then he stuck a turbo on the 2.8 engine never seen him for a while until I seen it all painted red and some epic engine work done!
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 04 March 2014, 18:57
Know the lad that's selling that thing!!! its f**king evil!!! he spent a lot of time on that motor was just a standard silver 4mo in the beginning then he stuck a turbo on the 2.8 engine never seen him for a while until I seen it all painted red and some epic engine work done!
did he forget to do the brakes or interior  :undecided:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: damien010685 on 04 March 2014, 23:23
haha aye true but pretty sure it was meant to be a sleeper!! if it was me id have r32 seats in it
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: barrym381 on 04 March 2014, 23:25
haha aye true but pretty sure it was meant to be a sleeper!! if it was me id have r32 seats in it
and brakes that might stop that power  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fully Forged 2.1L Stroker Engine
Post by: damien010685 on 05 March 2014, 05:16
Nah will be fine haha   :lipsrsealed: