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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: titusrider on 23 February 2014, 19:39
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Finally get the chance to thrash the pants off my gti PP on some proper country lanes that were something close to dry and the diff is incredible fun :)
You can get it turned in and settled in the corner and just floor it! Hauls you round and pretty much tears your face off :grin:
I'm still slightly over correcting at the moment, because you 'expect' understeer im putting in slightly too much steering lock and finding that when it hooks up im suddenly heading towards the inside of the road!
Im planning to go down to route napoleon this summer and really learn how it behaves, should be fun :cool:
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And this is why I feel the GTI will be more fun than a Golf R around corners in certain conditions, I still believe the latest generation haldex still suffers from the usual understeer :sad:
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The maintenance bulk of the cost in the performance pack is the VAQ.
It's nice that the Golf R gets the GTI PP brake setup too but it does have more mass to deal with.
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Titusrider, thanks for this post! It 's made me feel very happy about my choice of PP! :D I look forward to picking it up next week.
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Finally get the chance to thrash the pants off my gti PP on some proper country lanes that were something close to dry and the diff is incredible fun :)
You can get it turned in and settled in the corner and just floor it! Hauls you round and pretty much tears your face off :grin:
I'm still slightly over correcting at the moment, because you 'expect' understeer im putting in slightly too much steering lock and finding that when it hooks up im suddenly heading towards the inside of the road!
Im planning to go down to route napoleon this summer and really learn how it behaves, should be fun :cool:
I feel exactly the same way as you… Not thrashed it very very hard yet, but round these country road corners, it's on rails. And yes, you expect some understeer, but it just doesn't happen. I'm LOVING it!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
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I'm currently driving round in my standard GTI. Picking up my performance pack GTI on Saturday. Cant wait to compare the two and get to grips with that diff :smiley:
J
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I'm currently driving round in my standard GTI. Picking up my performance pack GTI on Saturday. Cant wait to compare the two and get to grips with that diff :smiley:
J
I'd really appreciate hearing an honest appraisal of the GTI with diff and no diff as a comparison :smiley:
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Titusrider, thanks for this post! It 's made me feel very happy about my choice of PP! :D I look forward to picking it up next week.
Ditto - it was a no brainer for me - but it's good to hear you can feel it! Is that in "normal" or "sport" diff settings? :)
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Most of my little drive yesterday was in individual with sport everything (inc diff) and comfort suspension, gives a really good fun 'bumpy roads' car
I'm not sure ive yet tried to feel the diff in normal mode
Its a very counter intuitive feeling, flooring it just as you think 'im pushing pretty hard here', easy to get on roundabouts too
ps sorry to anyone I alarmed in the Charlwood/newdigate area of surrey yesterday :)
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Thanks thats good to hear a real world review..keep it coming
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The diff is awesome!! And that's coming from a Renault RS Megane. Its a must have for me!
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I'm still slightly over correcting at the moment, because you 'expect' understeer im putting in slightly too much steering lock and finding that when it hooks up im suddenly heading towards the inside of the road!
I noticed this effect too. Combined with the progressive ratio it took a little while to adapt to the slight change in behaviour in tight bends. Can be a little unnerving if you overtake someone on a left bend and end up veering out of lane!
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so those of you that do have the diff, have you managed to provoke any big understeer moments or is it just me?
80mph + 3rd gear + country road + wet gravel + wide open left hander + foot to the floor trying to get the diff to wake up = Pant wetting understeer!!
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so those of you that do have the diff, have you managed to provoke any big understeer moments or is it just me?
80mph + 3rd gear + country road + wet gravel + wide open left hander + foot to the floor trying to get the diff to wake up = Pant wetting understeer!!
There is your problem..... wet and gravel..... no system is without its limitations, even cars with 4WD.
In the dry and usual normal wet conditions the VAQ works and you get no understeer.
On a dry track I know which I would rather have between VAQ or Haldex 4WD. :cool:
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I'm another that always steers too much in a corner expecting the GTI to understeer.
And I have to agree, the diff is awesome and unless you drive something else through the same corner you just don't realise how much the diff does as it's totally imperceptible. No drama, it just makes the GTI feel like it's anything but a fairly high powered front wheel drive car.
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This thread is like little daggers to my heart. In their infinite wisdom VW in Australia won't let you have a manual with a performance pack (DSG only) so I had to go without
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And I have to agree, the diff is awesome and unless you drive something else through the same corner you just don't realise how much the diff does as it's totally imperceptible.
Interesting that you describe it as imperceptible - I would call it the exact opposite!
when it wakes up you sure as hell know about it IME
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And I have to agree, the diff is awesome and unless you drive something else through the same corner you just don't realise how much the diff does as it's totally imperceptible.
Interesting that you describe it as imperceptible - I would call it the exact opposite!
when it wakes up you sure as hell know about it IME
By imperceptible I meant there's no sudden change in the car's behaviour; it just corners, and grips, and grips…
Coming from a whole legion or modified front wheel drive cars I'm used to approaching a corner wondering if the thing will understeer, spin an inside wheel, torque steer or whatever.
The VAQ just grips and slingshots you round…
That's imperceptible to me, it could be one wheel drive, two wheel drive, front, rear, four wheel drive - there are no obvious give-aways as to what it is - witchcraft!!!
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Does the GTI Mk7 (with or without the diff) solve the problem of wheel tramp off the line on a wet surface that plagues my Mk6?
It's the one thing for me that spoils an otherwise excellent car.
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Nope, its still a big issue, esp if you end up on bridgestones from the factory
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