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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Misterp on 03 January 2014, 14:11
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So go to pick my parents up this afternoon and I purposefully due to high wind left a massive gap between me and the next car. Unfortunately, some guy parked opened the door and let the wind carry his door and into mine
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That is the damage not much but still new car looks impaired.
The guy apologised and said either insurance or private. Any idea of cost anyone
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Sorry to hear about that bud! If i were in your shoes i would try and go private if at all possible. Try and avoid any kind of insurance black mark against your car.
J
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The sharp crease that runs along the doors in the Mk7 is a real magnet for this problem I fear. If the crease wasn't there I think you'd have gotten away with less damage.
You might get away with a cheap PDR job but it does look like you're missing a chunk of paint there... so to get it 100% right you are looking at a door respray (and adjoining panel blending in) I reckon.
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Been there get a touchup pen and a PDR guy to fix it. It cost me 60 notes to have it resolved. As Joe says for a 100% perfect job your looking at a full respray of the door at a minimum. I used a touch up pen its by no means perfect but only I know its there...
BEFORE
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AFTER
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Thanks guys I spoke to the guy who damaged my baby. He would rather we settle it. I have taken it to city centre car care in birmingham they are authorised body shop for vag, bmw etc. They will email a quote and then I will take it from there. The mechanic said we wouldn't advise on a smart repair as it would be visible after a while.
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If they don't use a smart repair id image they will have to use filler :cry:
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For your reference I was quoted £750 for a full VW body shop repair..
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Bodyshops are anti SMART (Small area repair technique) fixes as they take business away from them. The damage is light cosmetic and I would strongly suggest getting a reccomended SMART specialist to look at it. Body shop re-spraying can easily get out of hand as they will want to paint the whole door and parts of adjacent panels. I would not want that if it were my car - plus you will have an argument on your hands when you tell the chap that did that he is going to have to hand over £700!!
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Also, discrepancies in paint thickness around the car may alert a future buyer to jump to assumptions that the car has been in an accident.
J
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They have said their repair would mean painting the chip and lacquer the door I don't have the foggiest really. Anyone know any smart repairers in and around Brum that you could recommend.
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I'd agree with the guys here. A bodyshop repair (respray, etc) would be an absolute last resort and is OTT for damage like this IMO. Sods law says no sooner would you have it fixed than the same thing will happen a week later.
Find a decent / recommended PDR specialist in your area. Many of them are mobile operators and will come to you. A good one will work wonders.
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I'd agree with the guys here. A bodyshop repair (respray, etc) would be an absolute last resort and is OTT for damage like this IMO. Sods law says no sooner would you have it fixed than the same thing will happen a week later.
Find a decent / recommended PDR specialist in your area. Many of them are mobile operators and will come to you. A good one will work wonders.
I thought this I have called midlands care care in Walsall I am awaiting a response but they have advised that if the paint it chipped you should have it painted, but like you say don't want to paint it if I can repair it as there is only cosmetic damage nothing more
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The mechanic said we wouldn't advise on a smart repair as it would be visible after a while.
Really?! You should have asked them to explain how?
Its not a temporary fix but a permanent one.
I've used PDR guys 3 times now for my wife, daughter and my car and each time the work has been fantastic. £50 to make it look back to new is a bargain.
Repainting would be my last resort. Regardless of how well they blend it in, I think it is always noticeable under street lighting.
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Lets be clear - if the paint is damaged, missing, chipped or broken - it will need paint. Its the amount of paint we are debating. SMART repair will use the minimum and confine it to the damaged area. A standard body shop job will re-spray a much larger area with the attendant baggage that potentially comes with this as discussed above...
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There is about an inch of paint that's chipped. I have been looking for good chip repairers but I'm not having much luck to be honest in birmingham
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I'd suggest you call Gareth at 'Detail My Ride', Berkswell near Birmingham airport. (02476019936). Google their site. In addition to detailing I believe they do repairs such as yours. They detailed my new GTi just before Christmas and it was of the highest possible quality. Gareth is passionate about what he does and I'd recommend him.
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I'd suggest you call Gareth at 'Detail My Ride', Berkswell near Birmingham airport. (02476019936). Google their site. In addition to detailing I believe they do repairs such as yours. They detailed my new GTi just before Christmas and it was of the highest possible quality. Gareth is passionate about what he does and I'd recommend him.
I've emailed him hopefully I can get a quote from him asap.
This is his response:
Hi Imran,
Unfortunately although its a very small defect its repair is far from a simple one, mainly due to its location.
To get a perfect repair ideally you need to paint the panel as unfortunately just 'touching in' the chip will still be visible (particularly as it is in such a high profile location that is visible), and will likely wear off over time (e.g. you will need to keep touching it in). There is also the danger that as the paint is exposed (it looks down to metal but not 100% from picture) that rust may cause begin to cause a paint issue in the future.
To ensure a colour match (is the colour flat black or diamond black pearl?) we would ideally need to blend the side of the car to ensure a perfect colour match. We wouldn't recommend/offer a 'smart repair' type job as this would make it look 10x worse!
The other option if you are happy to live with it not being 100% would be for us to pull out any dent to the area using PDR (massage the dent from behind, not filler/paint) and then touch in with colour/lacquer with the risk that it may require re-touching again in the future and will still be visible on inspection. Cost of this would be around 75.00 GBP.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
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We had quite bad damage on my wife's Mini repaired by Smart repair. It was hit from the rear while stationary and removed some paint and also creased the Plastic Bumper where the structure behind the bumper had hit it when pushed forward..
Long story short, but the Girl in the car behind got her Dad to call us, he is a Smart Repair specialist. He wanted to come and "see what he could do". I was dead against this and wanted a proper bodyshop repair, but then found that even though the accident was not our fault, it would affect our insurance come renewal time (not fair, but a fact none the less :( ). A body shop would probably have wanted a new rear bumper and full respray on the rear.
Anyway, he came along and I begrudgingly let him do it, on the understanding if it was not to my liking we would go insurance. Now, I am pretty fussy, but have to say I could not fault it at all. The paint match was perfect and the creases in the bumper were completely gone, no sign at all..
Obviously your damage is to metal and not plastic, but it does show what these chaps can do.
If it were me, I would with the understanding of the 3rd party allow a PDR specialist to take a look. If you are not satisfied completely, then go to a bodyshop.
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I agree with everyone here, if you find a good PDR guy the work they can do is amazing. You will be amazed.
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Paint blend is the biggest issue - Deep Black Pearl is a complete bugger to blend in, perhaps the worst colour.
I got a Polo GT new in 2003 with DBP. First wash about a week after ownership I saw a small and sharp crease on the edge of the wheel arch on the front wing - the paintwork was spotless. The dealership admitted that they missed it at PDI and painted the wing and a bit of the front passenger door to blend in. It took them 3 goes to get it looking OK, but in overcast conditions, you could see the blend in area was a slightly different shade.
If a smart-repairer with a good reputation has their doubts over the longevity of a smart repair then i'd be dubious. You'll have this car a long time no doubt. If I'd done this to my own car 6 months before planned replacement then i'd go with the smart repair. A smart repairer knows their limitations, but a bodyshop will almost always advise you go the respray route to get your business.
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Sorry to read that your new car has been marked, but I'd go with a a smart repair. I've had several done on door dings and they've all been amazing.
I only once used an approved body shop to fill\paint\blend a door ding and the result was really disappointing and I could see the slight colour mis-match in certain lights.
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Another thing to take into consideration is masking marks and overspray. I've had stuff repaired by approved bodyshops and it had both. Now you shouldn't get this with a smart repair so I'd go with this option every time.
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I don't want to go the route of the vw preferred body shop as I'm dubious about the quality of work. Gareth at detail my ride doesn't think a pdr repair will do as the chip has gone through to the metal and unfortunately it will need redoing. I have spoken to russ at midlands car care in Walsall and he has advised that they have an approved body shop they work with that may be able to assist and I will call him on Monday to see what he has to say. Other than that the only option I have is insurance claim and that is a a last resort.
Anyone know any pdr guys around Brum. Undecided if I will be keeping the gtd after three years or selling and changing but either way I want a car I'm 100% happy with.
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Remember that a PDR and a SMART repair are 2 different things.
The P in PDR stands for paintless, meaning a touchup would be requied after it, whereas a smart repair is a painted repair over a very small area.
Your earlier post was from a PDR guy, worth speaking to a smart repairer too.
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Yep,
SMART is a repair using bodywork repair and paint techniques, so the guy has paint mixing skills etc.
PDR is PAINTLESS Dent repair - these guys either Pull or push dents out, depending on location of the damage.
It is NOT a PDR guy you want here as the paint is damaged, it is a smart repair job. Try finding a few local to you and then email them a good detailed picture of the damage for advice.
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ThAbks guys I've emailed a fair few sed what comes of it. But I'm worried about quality.
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ThAbks guys I've emailed a fair few sed what comes of it. But I'm worried about quality.
As said, get quotes and recommendations. If you are not happy with the quality, you can always go to a Bodyshop afterwards.
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I've had my rear door and quarter panel painted after someone thought it would be nice to speed past my car and put two huge stone chips in. took it to the approved VW shop up here in Sunderland and must say they've done a fantastic job. even the detailer said it was a cracking job as he couldn't tell where the damage had been until I pointed it out. thing is if it's approved VW body shop and it's not right you take it back until it's right plus with it being approved the paint warranty remains intact. I know not all body shops are good but the mill car clinic at boldon are very good.
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I have been quoted 95 by autoscratch.co.uk this is from a google search I would rather use a Recommended smart repair. The guy has flat out refused to pay for vw body shop to repair if all else fails then it will have to be insurance. I don't want a half assed job. I'm waiting for Gareth at detail my rise to come back to me and also midlands car care to come back to me both are highly recommended so I will see what they say tomorrow then take it from there.
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I've had my rear door and quarter panel painted after someone thought it would be nice to speed past my car and put two huge stone chips in. took it to the approved VW shop up here in Sunderland and must say they've done a fantastic job. even the detailer said it was a cracking job as he couldn't tell where the damage had been until I pointed it out. thing is if it's approved VW body shop and it's not right you take it back until it's right plus with it being approved the paint warranty remains intact. I know not all body shops are good but the mill car clinic at boldon are very good.
Last year I had front passenger wing resprayed and blended into door, after someone put a dent in it and did not stop (mk6 deep black pearl). Used approved VW body shop and they did a cracking job and you really cannot tell at all and I'm very, very fussy. I had to go through insurance but on renewal, am paying same as previously.
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Auto scratch said it will be 95%. Not good enough.
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The guy has flat out refused to pay for vw body shop to repair if all else fails then it will have to be insurance.
Do you mean if it comes down to a bodyshop repair he will go through his insurance rather than his wallet, or he will outright refuse to cooperate for anything other than a smart repair and you're assuming you'll have to go through your insurance?
You've already done the hard part - admission of guillt. If it comes down to bodyshop then his insurance will have to sort it - at a place of your choosing.
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The guy has flat out refused to pay for vw body shop to repair if all else fails then it will have to be insurance.
Do you mean if it comes down to a bodyshop repair he will go through his insurance rather than his wallet, or he will outright refuse to cooperate for anything other than a smart repair and you're assuming you'll have to go through your insurance?
You've already done the hard part - admission of guillt. If it comes down to bodyshop then his insurance will have to sort it - at a place of your choosing.
Should have clarified, he will go through his insurance.