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General => General discussion => Topic started by: MBCGTI on 05 December 2013, 16:42
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So ive had the Golf for 18 months now and loved every minute of it however due to buying a house the mrs and I are looking at swapping the cars around.
We are looking to get rid of the golf which will allow me to spend 4-5 grand on a car for myself to run around in. My problem is that I have no idea what to go for.
I still want something fun to play with as I cannot face driving a banger to and from work and having the mrs car for weekends or trips away.
So far ive found so many different motors that I like the look of and it isnt a specific type im looking at.
Firstly seen a few Renault Clio 172 Cup's - Cheap little motor to run although not sure with no ABS and no traction control living in a village with winter coming up might be interesting. Then I looked at some 182's but know from past experience that they seem to suffer with quite a few known faults.
Secondly looked at some EP3 Honda Civic type R's but seem to pluck up high mileage ones with silly modifications.
Thirdly looked at MK4 GTi's but not a huge fan on the looks or the interior and can only afford high mileage R32's and cost of running would be too high.
Fourth and finally something a little bit more sensible in the form of a Ford Focus ST170. Not exactly a show stopper but know the 2.0l duratec engine is pretty bullet proof and they arent too bad for a quick blast.
Thats about all I can come up with at the moment, although I did look at Honda S2000's but not sure the mrs will let me have a two seater...and before anyone says it we all know they have the final say!!
I know there are plenty of other little hot hatches out there but cant think of any that stand out. Im not looking for anything that needs to be maintained all the time as I havent got the time and not looking for a high miler. I could be persuaded by a fast estate if I could get the right price.
Cheers
Mike
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ford focus seems to be a pretty good motor. I hate to say it but I would have a focus over a mk5/6/7 golf any day. would never buy a vw newer than a mk4 golf.
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Civic type R's would be my choice, followed by the ST
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forget the st170 the st-2 or 3 is a different story forget any clio too and if it has to be a vw mk5 gti is in your budget or an a3 audi with the same engine as mk5 gti :smiley:
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mk1 escort rs2000? :cool:
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mk1 escort rs2000? :cool:
Very :cool:, but not for daily use.
I was going to suggest a nice Mk2 Golf 16V, but they are becoming pampered toys these days. If you did use one daily, you'd have to run it with a 'spare' speedo.
The problem with your budget and the type of cars you have mentioned, most are going to be well used. You are used to driving a nice car, so anything like a Clio/Civic/Focus is going to feel it's age.
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I owned a Clio 182 for 5 years up until March this year and it was great, never let me down. Only thing that broke was the wiper motor. I bought it at 16k and sold it with 132k on the clock... If they are looked after they will run well.
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The problem with the clio is much the same as the civic, because they are such a popular car they either have stupidly high mileage in which case its everything that starts to go wrong or they have been modified or they have been pampered so much I feel guilt for using them on a daily basis.
As for the Mk1 RS2000 or Mk2 GTi, I would love them but not sure the mrs would be happy with an old motor. Plus I need it as a daily drive and couldnt really risk it not starting on cold mornings.
I have also looked at the Mondeo ST, diesel version but not sure if they are a little bit boring??
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Focus ST170 is a great car, chassis was well ahead of its time and set a new benchmark for that category of car.
Civic Type-R is another good call, loved ours :cool:
What about an Integra Type-R? Simply stunning chassis, addictive engine and reliable build quality...just watch the rust in rear quarters, knackered suspension bushes and gearbox synchros.
I have owned all 3 cars above and loved them all for different qualities, good luck.
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ford focus seems to be a pretty good motor. I hate to say it but I would have a focus over a mk5/6/7 golf any day. would never buy a vw newer than a mk4 golf.
So you don't like any of the Golfs that actually go/steer/handle properly? Curious…
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A friend of mine has a Clio 197 on a 2007 model that he is looking at selling for about 5k,
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ford focus seems to be a pretty good motor. I hate to say it but I would have a focus over a mk5/6/7 golf any day. would never buy a vw newer than a mk4 golf.
So you don't like any of the Golfs that actually go/steer/handle properly? Curious…
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im guessing you have never driven a well set up mk2 golf :grin:
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ford focus seems to be a pretty good motor. I hate to say it but I would have a focus over a mk5/6/7 golf any day. would never buy a vw newer than a mk4 golf.
So you don't like any of the Golfs that actually go/steer/handle properly? Curious…
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im guessing you have never driven a well set up mk2 golf :grin:
You'd be wrong - I've been modifying Golfs since 1987.
Still, you're right, the old ones are the best ones - now where are my rose tinted specs… ? :laugh:
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Considering you can get a 172 for £1500
Im pretty sure you can get a low mile for £4000.
What about a seat leon cupra r?
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Make a offer of £2500
And have this 51,000 clio
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Renault-Clio-2-0-16v-Renault-sport-172-Cup-just-serviced-with-new-cam-kit-/261323461278?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cd817929e (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Renault-Clio-2-0-16v-Renault-sport-172-Cup-just-serviced-with-new-cam-kit-/261323461278?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cd817929e)
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Plenty of CTR EP3s for less than £5000. One of the best out of the box NA hit hatches built. Pretty bullet proof and so what if it's a cared for example you will use daily? :rolleyes:
And a MK5 over the mk4/mk3 any day. Handling, performance and just as many common faults. You find that out if you have owned both :wink:
Now a solid mk2 low mileage and original. Yes please.
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The problem with The Civic/Integra etc is they make such a song and dance about everything. When you overtake a line of 3-4 cars you need to press on, so need 8000+ revs. Not only does it make you look a tit, you feel that you have to keep pressing on to get away after having made such a show of yourself.
You can make much better progress without drawing attention to yourself in a turbocharged car, which is where the Mk4,5 and 6 come in. Well, maybe not the Mk4.
A Mk2 is a completely different proposition. I'm told that mine is one of the good ones for a totally standard car, and it is a very satisfying little car to drive quickly, but it's not fast. Not by a long way. My diesel Passat and Golf will wipe the floor with it for pace, but when the sun is out, the sunroof is open and Don Henley is playing on the cassette, the new cars don't come close to putting a smile on my face.
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The problem with The Civic/Integra etc is they make such a song and dance about everything. When you overtake a line of 3-4 cars you need to press on, so need 8000+ revs. Not only does it make you look a tit, you feel that you have to keep pressing on to get away after having made such a show of yourself.
You can make much better progress without drawing attention to yourself in a turbocharged car, which is where the Mk4,5 and 6 come in. Well, maybe not the Mk4.
A Mk2 is a completely different proposition. I'm told that mine is one of the good ones for a totally standard car, and it is a very satisfying little car to drive quickly, but it's not fast. Not by a long way. My diesel Passat and Golf will wipe the floor with it for pace, but when the sun is out, the sunroof is open and Don Henley is playing on the cassette, the new cars don't come close to putting a smile on my face.
with some help a mk4 can be made a bit better :wink: and faster
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ford focus seems to be a pretty good motor. I hate to say it but I would have a focus over a mk5/6/7 golf any day. would never buy a vw newer than a mk4 golf.
So you don't like any of the Golfs that actually go/steer/handle properly? Curious…
:whistle:
im guessing you have never driven a well set up mk2 golf :grin:
You'd be wrong - I've been modifying Golfs since 1987.
Still, you're right, the old ones are the best ones - now where are my rose tinted specs… ? :laugh:
yeah but when did you ever see a mk2 golf engine failing at 30k due to a sh%te cam chain tensioner design :laugh:
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ford focus seems to be a pretty good motor. I hate to say it but I would have a focus over a mk5/6/7 golf any day. would never buy a vw newer than a mk4 golf.
So you don't like any of the Golfs that actually go/steer/handle properly? Curious…
:whistle:
im guessing you have never driven a well set up mk2 golf :grin:
You'd be wrong - I've been modifying Golfs since 1987.
Still, you're right, the old ones are the best ones - now where are my rose tinted specs… ? :laugh:
yeah but when did you ever see a mk2 golf engine failing at 30k due to a sh%te cam chain tensioner design :laugh:
The heater matrix exploded and scalded the drivers feet instead.
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Problem with the integra is finding a reasonable one for 5 I with low mileage as I know the engines are bullet proof but the suspension and everything after 100k is going to need returning or replacing
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Subaru Impreza 2.0 turbo. Steer clear of modded ones and the sti and they are almost bullet proof. But running costs are high.
For budget fun don't discount the mg zs 180 get a good mk2 model for about 2k
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Subaru Impreza 2.0 turbo. Steer clear of modded ones and the sti and they are almost bullet proof. But running costs are high.
For budget fun don't discount the mg zs 180 get a good mk2 model for about 2k
Are the MG's reliable though??
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I've had 4 zs 180s and never had a problem like all cars service them regularly and they will run for years.
Only issues with the kv6 is the water pumps can leak, and the motors on the vis can fail. But the water pump is changed when cam belt is done and vis motors get screwed up because of oil build up in intake this can be sorted by fitting catch tank.
The kv6 doesn't really suffer from h/g failure either.
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Subaru Impreza 2.0 turbo. Steer clear of modded ones and the sti and they are almost bullet proof. But running costs are high.
For budget fun don't discount the mg zs 180 get a good mk2 model for about 2k
had a few scoobs all modified an never had 1 issue :whistle:
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My choice would be 182 with Cup Packs. Full fat. Plenty of fun. Try and get the better seats though mine are horrible on a long journey and are the same IIRC as the proper cups and some standard 182's etc.
Fine if looked after and make sure cambelt is done properly as can't be done without tools. Can't stress this enough, anyone that says they've done one either hasn't or has knocked it out a tad, they will run and sometimes seemingly fine but down on power.
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My choice would be 182 with Cup Packs. Full fat. Plenty of fun. Try and get the better seats though mine are horrible on a long journey and are the same IIRC as the proper cups and some standard 182's etc.
Fine if looked after and make sure cambelt is done properly as can't be done without tools. Can't stress this enough, anyone that says they've done one either hasn't or has knocked it out a tad, they will run and sometimes seemingly fine but down on power.
you still got your grannys clio
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My choice would be 182 with Cup Packs. Full fat. Plenty of fun. Try and get the better seats though mine are horrible on a long journey and are the same IIRC as the proper cups and some standard 182's etc.
Fine if looked after and make sure cambelt is done properly as can't be done without tools. Can't stress this enough, anyone that says they've done one either hasn't or has knocked it out a tad, they will run and sometimes seemingly fine but down on power.
you still got your grannys clio
I have one, several been sold since the first, fecking awesome selling cars ATM, make a mint outta em.
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Not a fan of the MG, it looks pretty horrendous to be honest. Plus the inside isn't the nicest place to be.
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Not a fan of the MG, it looks pretty horrendous to be honest. Plus the inside isn't the nicest place to be.
up the budget a bit and i know of a rare mk4 r32 for sale :wink:
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4 r32 money you can actually get a mg zt 260,uber rare with a mustang v8 lump and rwd.
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Also what about a octavia vrs?
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4 r32 money you can actually get a mg zt 260,uber rare with a mustang v8 lump and rwd.
still a rover :laugh:
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Not a fan of the MG, it looks pretty horrendous to be honest. Plus the inside isn't the nicest place to be.
up the budget a bit and i know of a rare mk4 r32 for sale :wink:
What budget are we talking of??
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Not a fan of the MG, it looks pretty horrendous to be honest. Plus the inside isn't the nicest place to be.
up the budget a bit and i know of a rare mk4 r32 for sale :wink:
What budget are we talking of??
Make:vw
Model:golf r32
Colour:grey
Year:53 plate
Engine size:3200
Fuel type:petrol
Transmission:manual
Mileage:98k
MOT:nov 14
Tax:end april 14
Price:6700 ono
ive decided to sell this after getting it basically how i want it to be..... i planned to keep it however a change of plans regarding projects / work / spare time has made me decided to have a clear out
some of you have seen the car in the members motors section and will know that ive done a fair bit in the short time ive owned it.
ive known the car for around 3 or 4 years now and have maintained it for the previous owner.
its the very rare grey paintwork with black leather. its a non sunroof car . come with aftermarket double din sat nav,tv,dvd,handsfree head unit. usual stuff like xenons etc
the only issue i know that the car has is a slightly noisey fuel pump.... i replaced the pump and regulator last week with brand new oem items at the cost of £400 to find the noise exactly the same... according to a google search its normal practise with an r32
since i have owned it i have done the following
fully serviced , oil ,filters, plugs, etc
new rear brake discs
new rear brake pads
new rear brake callipers (painted blue as factory spec)
cat back miltek exhaust
replacement tail gate due to rust around handle
stage one revo remap
brand new oem fuel pump and fuel pressure regulator fitted last week (£400!!)
recently its had
18" bbs ch reps with new tyres
fk coilovers
drilled and grooved front discs
new front pads
hubcentric spacers giving it awsome stance
cupra r front splitter
i wont for one minute say that the car is mint as there are a lot of stone chips to the front bumper and bonnet however it is fantastically clean.
it has full history upto when i got it then ive done the above stuff to it which i can make up invoices to put in with the history for the buyer. ive done lee than 1000miles with the car and it now shows 98k miles which will rise as i use the car daily.
any questions feel free to ask
079275one6833
link to the ad for pictures :smiley: http://www.scottishvag.net/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=115565