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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Mattyj on 22 November 2013, 16:39

Title: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 22 November 2013, 16:39
H7's?
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: dubber36 on 22 November 2013, 18:01
No. They are an obscure bulb that no aftermarket HID manufacturer can replicate. A fine move by VW to prevent people from fitting chavy, illegal, light scattering, inappropriate, HID burners into Mk6 Golf reflector headlights.

Well, it would be good if that was the case, but unfortunately it isn't. 
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 22 November 2013, 18:27
Pity they didn't fit decent headlights then I wouldn't them ha!
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Post by: Snoopy on 22 November 2013, 18:49
What he is say is they are illegal. They are illegal for the reason they scatter light and blind cars coming the other way causing risk of a crash. The beam pattern is different and does not conform with the law.
He is saying they are fitted by chavs in vauxhall corsa or astras to look cool. All they do is blind people and are illegal.
I regular get blinded by chaved up vauxhalls with them fitted in the countryside of northumberland.

If you have issues with light fit one of the many H7 uprated bulbs out there or buy a mk6 with the factory fit xenon lights with correct beam pattern, headlight washers to keep the beam pattern correct, and auto levelers to keep the beam pattern correct.
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Post by: mike. on 22 November 2013, 19:09
Yea, never understand why people fit these.

Fitted in reflector units they not only blind everyone but they look crap. :sick:

They look nothing like normal Xenons but look like someone fitted a big bright ball in each of your headlights.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 22 November 2013, 19:33
Ok they then experts all I want is brighter lights as standard are sh!t!
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Post by: Booth11 on 22 November 2013, 19:41
Really noticeable just how many cars with these now.  They look cack and, more often than not, the lighting is inconsistent, one headlight much brighter than the other.  They are a PITA for other drivers.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 22 November 2013, 19:46
Other drivers don't give a sh!t about me so why should I?
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: mike. on 22 November 2013, 19:59
I understand your pain Mattyj, the halogens really are dim and I went the whole hog and retrofitted OEM Xenons.

But the cost is high, worked out slightly more than factory fitted ones.

Upgraded bulbs do help a bit but nowhere near the Xenon output so I can see why you want to go the xenon kit route.

There was someone recently on the forum doing a replacement headlight with projector lenses and then fitting a xenon kit to those, not sure of the cost.

Here is the post (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=261582.0)
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 22 November 2013, 20:51
Well i do alot of driving at night and they are very poor i want them for safety nothing else
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Jimble on 22 November 2013, 23:45
Other drivers don't give a sh!t about me so why should I?


This is quite possibly the most stupid statement i've ever read on this forum! In what way don't other drivers care about you?


Well i do alot of driving at night and they are very poor i want them for safety nothing else


And i agree the standard lights are very poor but how is blinding other road users safe? There is a reason they're illegal, just get some Osram Nightbreakers or Philips extreme H7's, they're not as good as xenons but they are an improvement, failing that i'd consider upgrading to some xenons.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 23 November 2013, 02:21
Are you for real? Trying to kill me everytime i use the road cutting me up,over taking in stupid places forcing me to do something to avoid there idiotic manoeuvres, tail gating etc etc 
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Booth11 on 23 November 2013, 08:18
Mate, grow up.  There's always going to be sh!t drivers, doesn't mean you have to turn into one yourself.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2013, 08:23
Mate, grow up.  There's always going to be sh!t drivers, doesn't mean you have to turn into one yourself.

Couldn't of put it better myself.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Snoopy on 23 November 2013, 09:04
I have osram nightbreakers in my SEAT leon much better than VW oem bulbs I had in before. Also night driving glasses make a difference. As does having the lights properly setup. VW lights are known for often been setup incorrect from the factory.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 23 November 2013, 10:08
Night driving glasses? Tell me more.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 23 November 2013, 10:08
Mate, grow up.  There's always going to be sh!t drivers, doesn't mean you have to turn into one yourself.
Bore off
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: dubber36 on 23 November 2013, 12:45
Matty, you obviously don't realise how childish comments like that make you seem.

You've come on here, started a thread about illegal headlights and when people have suggested you shouldn't do it, giving you valid reasons why, you start throwing insults around.

Booth has got it spot on. You really need to grow up.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 23 November 2013, 13:13
Being a patronising guy doesn't help anybody this is what i have a problem with oh and it takes one to know one
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Booth11 on 23 November 2013, 13:29
The irony of it is that you state you want to improve your lights in order to be safer, but you appear quite willing to endanger every other motorist in order to achieve that.
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Post by: Wayne on 23 November 2013, 13:58
Very stupid replies as posted they are illegal, just fit uprated bulbs.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: mwad gti on 25 November 2013, 16:59
Other drivers don't give a sh!t about me so why should I?

fcuk me how ignorant .

Hope for your sake we're not both involved in the same accident
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: mwad gti on 25 November 2013, 17:01
Matty, you obviously don't realise how childish comments like that make you seem.

You've come on here, started a thread about illegal headlights and when people have suggested you shouldn't do it, giving you valid reasons why, you start throwing insults around.

Booth has got it spot on. You really need to grow up.

Couldn't agree more, well said
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 29 November 2013, 22:13
Yawn
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Hobojim on 09 December 2013, 22:37
Very sorry to resurrect this one but I have a few thoughts on this. Firstly I do NOT want to install light that are going to dazzle other drivers, its dangerous and I hate it on the motorway when other cars have them.

I have bought a set of night breakers (H7) for my dipped headlights and some philips cool blue side lights.

(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Philips-W5W-501-Bulb-Blue-Vision-Ultra-/200999130224?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ecc7b5470)

and some rather nice fog lights: http://www.phoenixautobulbs.co.uk/pr/abs-cobalt-blue-h9/

The only bulbs left are the H15 main beam/DRL bulbs. Now Osram appear to be the only people that make them and so there is a choice of 1 bulb and for the DRL they are yellow and look a bit naff. I have found a HID kits for the H15 that would give a HID main beam and a 15w DRL.

Assuming the 15w DRL is not dazzling (i doubt it would be) I think i'd be happy to use these as the only time the HID light would be on is if i had full beam on, (whether it is HID or halogen full beam is dazzling anyway) and i would dip my light for oncoming traffic and so the H15 HID would go off and the H7 night breaker halogen would be on.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 10 December 2013, 02:24
Only to say mate i bought osram night breaker unltd not to bad and got some phillps blue vision sides i believe so much the same as you i find my main beams now have little affect with the brighter bulbs fitted the only idea behind hid's was to make it safer for me to drive at night
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Hobojim on 10 December 2013, 04:28
I think the problem was you suggested replacing the H7s which are the dipped lights. Replacing H7 halogens with HIDs would be a terrible idea. Your dipped main beam H7 are what you use most of the time. You would only use your H15 Main beam when no other car was in sight and so whether it was halogen or HID wouldn't really make any difference.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: dubber36 on 10 December 2013, 08:20
The problem with using a HID for main beam is slow warm up time that you get with all aftermarket kits. They are fine for dip (in the appropriate headlights) as once they are on, they stay on, but for main beam, every time you flash them or switch to main beam, you'll have to wait a couple of seconds until they reach full brightness.

Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 10 December 2013, 10:56
Just need to get a brighter reverse light now and thats it and maybe led number plate lights
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: dubber36 on 10 December 2013, 11:38
Just need to get a brighter reverse light now and thats it and maybe led number plate lights

I said in another thread, try using your hazard lights. That's what I have to do when reversing a trailer in the dark.
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 10 December 2013, 12:03
Yes mate i read that however i don't want to develop epilepsy with flashing lights i'm getting a brighter steady bulb had a butchers yesterday theres a reflector in the reverse light which i don't understand as to dazzle another driver whilst reversing isn't exactly deadly as it on for minimum time
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: mwad gti on 10 December 2013, 13:01
Only to say mate i bought osram night breaker unltd not to bad and got some phillps blue vision sides i believe so much the same as you i find my main beams now have little affect with the brighter bulbs fitted the only idea behind hid's was to make it safer for me to drive at night

Any pics?
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 10 December 2013, 13:21
I'm not being sarcastic mate but what exactly would you like a pic of? I'll take one for you ;)
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: mwad gti on 10 December 2013, 15:28
I'm not being sarcastic mate but what exactly would you like a pic of? I'll take one for you ;)
I'm curiois how the blue sidelights stand up to whiter headlights

As standard, both are yellowish
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: Mattyj on 10 December 2013, 15:45
Ok mate i'll get one up for you this evening when its dark
Title: Re: HID's talk to me...
Post by: dubber36 on 10 December 2013, 15:53
Phillips Blue Vision side lights and Nightbreakers are a very good colour match. In fact very often when you buy a pair of NB's, you get a set thrown in.
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Post by: Mattyj on 10 December 2013, 17:15
(http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o633/matt_j1/image-22.jpg) (http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/matt_j1/media/image-22.jpg.html)


(http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o633/matt_j1/image-21.jpg) (http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/matt_j1/media/image-21.jpg.html)
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Post by: mwad gti on 10 December 2013, 20:11
Looks good.
Thanks
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Post by: Mattyj on 10 December 2013, 20:13
Sorry pics not epic lights honking dirty lol