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Title: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: candywhite12 on 22 October 2013, 15:27
hi all

two quick ones:

has anybody had any trouble after installing bluefin on the gti (dsg preferably)?

also, any discounts from superchips in this forum?

thanks
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 22 October 2013, 16:14
not really superchip discount, but i will be selling my fully reset Bluefin device - Forum member discount

 :smiley:
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: Jimmgc51 on 22 October 2013, 17:47
hi all

two quick ones:

has anybody had any trouble after installing bluefin on the gti (dsg preferably)?

also, any discounts from superchips in this forum?

thanks

No discounts I'm aware off to the forum, but they do, do discounts direct from time to time you gotta keep checking the web site, last one was 20% for the royal wedding.

or take Ross's...
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RedHP on 22 October 2013, 18:59
not really superchip discount, but i will be selling my fully reset Bluefin device - Forum member discount

 :smiley:

I assume you mean that your Bluefin handset will for sale, but any buyer would still need to buy the re-map   :smiley:

Red
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: candywhite12 on 22 October 2013, 19:13
not really superchip discount, but i will be selling my fully reset Bluefin device - Forum member discount

 :smiley:

hey Ross,

since you had it on a similar car did you have any trouble with it in terms of ignition/misfires/turbo lag/etc?  Did you have to change your diverter valve or was it ok with the factory one?

thanks
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: mike. on 22 October 2013, 19:29
I ran Bluefin Stage 2 on a MK5 GTI DSG for five years no issues, loved it.
Now running Bluefin stage 1 on the MK6 GTi DSG for 3.5 years with no issues.

No problems, no diverter valve problems on either car, just large grins every trip   :evil: :evil: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RedHP on 22 October 2013, 19:30
Now running Bluefin stage 1 on the MK6 GTi DSG for 3.5 years with no issues.

No problems, just large grins every trip   :evil: :evil: :laugh: :laugh:

Snap  :wink:

Red
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: candywhite12 on 22 October 2013, 20:01
I ran Bluefin Stage 2 on a MK5 GTI DSG for five years no issues, loved it.
Now running Bluefin stage 1 on the MK6 GTi DSG for 3.5 years with no issues.

No problems, no diverter valve problems on either car, just large grins every trip   :evil: :evil: :laugh: :laugh:

thanks mike, greatly appreciated insight and particularly helpful since your car is a dsg. Tbh i have always been a bit sceptical about changing anything on the car - why change something if it works just fine - and I've been thrilled with the car since day 1.  But i've reached a stage now with the car being 4 years old, where i want that little bit of extra to reignite my driving passion ... a way of renewing our vows if you like  :grin:  I will probably be waiting until next month when I travel to the UK for business and have the handset delivered for free at my hotel to save myself from shipping costs to Cyprus.
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: Rgdogg on 22 October 2013, 21:00
Bluefin on the gti is what the car should of been like from the factory in my opinion, very happy with my bluefin.
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 22 October 2013, 21:00
not really superchip discount, but i will be selling my fully reset Bluefin device - Forum member discount

 :smiley:

I assume you mean that your Bluefin handset will for sale, but any buyer would still need to buy the re-map   :smiley:

Red

No the device is fully reset - Therefore you do not need to buy the map, you just send them your details ie MK6 GTI DSG or manual and they will send the map.

You never have to buy the map when its second hand, you have to pay for the device resetting, which mine is  :smiley:

I never had to change DV, no misfire, turbo lag.....was a small issue with the carbonio intake (vacuum caused small hesitation) but fine after small mod.

great bit of kit, mines only been used twice and is like brand new with all box, disc and manuals

As it is in perfect condition i would like to try get £350 for it - cheaper than any on ebay. PM if anyone is interested, thanks
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: Ess_Three on 23 October 2013, 06:22
I never had to change DV, no misfire, turbo lag.....was a small issue with the carbonio intake (vacuum caused small hesitation) but fine after small mod.

What was the mod you did to cure the hesitation, Ross?
I am getting an odd hesitation that wasn't there with the standard airbox...so wonder if mine is doing the same.
 
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 23 October 2013, 08:57
I never had to change DV, no misfire, turbo lag.....was a small issue with the carbonio intake (vacuum caused small hesitation) but fine after small mod.

What was the mod you did to cure the hesitation, Ross?
I am getting an odd hesitation that wasn't there with the standard airbox...so wonder if mine is doing the same.

well there is 2 mods you can do, one more permanent than the other. First is to add 2 or 3 black rubber washers to each screw so it can pass air through where the pipe meets the cone section, rather than been fully sealed.

Or you can drill an inch wide hole on the underneath side of the cone section.

Both is reducing the Vacuum effect with in the cone and allows more air to flow freely and less "sucky" effect. Best i can explain it at 8.45 in the morning  :undecided:
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: Ess_Three on 23 October 2013, 10:54
Seriously?
I thought the whole purpose was to have a sealed airbox?

Hmm...
I suppose I could try it and see if it works...thanks  :smiley:
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 23 October 2013, 11:27
Seriously?
I thought the whole purpose was to have a sealed airbox?

Hmm...
I suppose I could try it and see if it works...thanks  :smiley:

Sealed yes, but not to the point its causing vacuum effect. It will still pull 95% of air from the front grill. The reason why it work better is it kinda discharges the air that wasnt sucked in allowing more fresh air to flow in.

I always used to get the hesitation if i had accelerated a bit, then let of for a second and then went full throttle. It would always been fine from nothing to full throttle, dont know if its the same for you.
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: wigit on 23 October 2013, 13:32
only issue normally is Superchips tend to send the manual map rather than the dsg map

i always thought Superchips reset it for free in the first year, also not sure where you stand with the so called warranty if you buy a reset one
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: spiderman on 23 October 2013, 13:41

I am getting an odd hesitation that wasn't there with the standard airbox...so wonder if mine is doing the same.

Both is reducing the Vacuum effect with in the cone and allows more air to flow freely and less "sucky" effect. Best i can explain it at 8.45 in the morning  :undecided:
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Interesting, i found exactly the same, but had it with the standard airbox too, it got a little better with the Carbon intake and i've been adjusting my throttle application to drive around it, quite successfully too :smug:. I thought it may just be a trade off in flexibility for the power, but i shall try spacing out the filter to see if it goes away, Cheers :wink:

Sandy
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 23 October 2013, 13:57
only issue normally is Superchips tend to send the manual map rather than the dsg map

i always thought Superchips reset it for free in the first year, also not sure where you stand with the so called warranty if you buy a reset one

superchips offer a rest if you not happy within first 30 days - after that you have to £225 i think
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 23 October 2013, 13:58

I am getting an odd hesitation that wasn't there with the standard airbox...so wonder if mine is doing the same.

Both is reducing the Vacuum effect with in the cone and allows more air to flow freely and less "sucky" effect. Best i can explain it at 8.45 in the morning  :undecided:

Interesting, i found exactly the same, but had it with the standard airbox too, it got a little better with the Carbon intake and i've been adjusting my throttle application to drive around it, quite successfully too :smug:. I thought it may just be a trade off in flexibility for the power, but i shall try spacing out the filter to see if it goes away, Cheers :wink:

Sandy
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no problem mate  :smiley:, worked much better for me
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: Jimmgc51 on 23 October 2013, 17:48
Can't you get bluefin to adjust the map due to the carbonio being fitted
Sure I read someone else did that!

The map they send is generic to some degree designed for the standard air box
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: RocketRossUK on 23 October 2013, 18:57
Can't you get bluefin to adjust the map due to the carbonio being fitted
Sure I read someone else did that!

The map they send is generic to some degree designed for the standard air box

that was me that said, which they did. but after a few days it didnt feel like it had that low end punch, so i rang them and they had adjusted the map so the boost came on later (like 3500 to 4000) which i dint want. I want the boost mice an early.

So after researching on the american forum (more people using APR carbonio) i found this simple solution which loads of people said worked  :smiley:
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: Jimmgc51 on 23 October 2013, 19:09
Can't you get bluefin to adjust the map due to the carbonio being fitted
Sure I read someone else did that!

The map they send is generic to some degree designed for the standard air box

that was me that said, which they did. but after a few days it didnt feel like it had that low end punch, so i rang them and they had adjusted the map so the boost came on later (like 3500 to 4000) which i dint want. I want the boost mice an early.

So after researching on the american forum (more people using APR carbonio) i found this simple solution which loads of people said worked  :smiley:

ha ha yeah most the stuff I read is from here!

I'll have to remember this then when I fit mine next year, going to add carbonio, cutback and bluefin at the same time  :cool:
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: MustardGTI on 30 October 2013, 09:13
Superchips offer different maps for DSG or manual cars, does anyone know if that's the same (necessary?) from other tuners?
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: wigit on 30 October 2013, 09:36
Superchips offer different maps for DSG or manual cars, does anyone know if that's the same (necessary?) from other tuners?

Other tuners offerings seem capable of producing the same map for both
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: candywhite12 on 30 October 2013, 13:24
Superchips offer different maps for DSG or manual cars, does anyone know if that's the same (necessary?) from other tuners?

i tried revo stage 1 a year or so ago, DSG made no difference to what was installed on the ECU.  When I called this year to enquire about superchips, they said it'd be different for a DSG vs a manual.  Don't know why the different way of going about this but i'd play it safer and go with superchips and get a cheaper map that will also be more accommodating to my gearbox
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: Snoopy on 30 October 2013, 13:47
Maybe different torque curves as the manual clutch is made of butter.
Revo alegidly just expect owners to drive round it and not on the lowend torque thats what ive read elsewhere anyway.
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: wigit on 30 October 2013, 16:46
Maybe different torque curves as the manual clutch is made of butter.
Revo alegidly just expect owners to drive round it and not on the lowend torque thats what ive read elsewhere anyway.

Interesting as the 2.0TSI map was originally mapped on a DSG car by Revo back in the day way back when

Superchips run lower power and torque on their dsg map, odd because dsg's from other tuners seem to cope a lot better with the power given the inferior clutches

For me the issue on the TSI is no one has really cracked a linear throttle map like you can get from K04 cars from the same stable of tuners
Title: Re: bluefin trouble anyone? PLUS any known bluefin discounts for members?
Post by: mbradbrook on 01 November 2013, 17:35
Just installed a bluefin in my 59 plate gti. The car instantly feels smoother and has a lot more go. It came with a free k&n panel filter but I think they have sent me a filter for the golf R (33-2888). Can anyone confirm that the correct number is 33-2865?

Thanks

Matt