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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: stellargti on 19 October 2013, 13:42
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Today I have been quoted 25 weeks for delivery of the following specification:
GTI 3-door DSG Performance Tornado Red
Santiago 19" Alloys
Leather
Winter Pack for Leather
Discover Pro Sat Nav
Keyless Entry
Adaptive Chassis Control
Park Assist
High Beam Assist
Dynaudio
Rear View Camera
List price: £35,000
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I purchased in the first week of October and was quoted 25 weeks.
Got a.call from my dealer this morning confirmed build week is 46 (10.11.2013) so we are way ahead of schedule and he reckons the car could be with us before the new year.
He said that vw have changed their production line and staff scheduling for the last quarter of 2013 to meet huge demand for golfs. There are many others on here who ordered in September and already have their build weeks.
You have a high spec car that may hold.up.yours an extra week or two at most.
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that price is just crazy - should be able to get it for less than £31k on drivethedeal
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Based on that price and the waiting time you would be mad not to wait for the R to come out
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I expect you wouldn't be paying (anywhere near) the list price.
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I expect you wouldn't be paying (anywhere near) the list price.
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IMO there's a certain price point above which the GTI just doesn't make sense and that is round about £30k. You start to go over this figure then you entering territory where there are better options.
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Today I have been quoted 25 weeks for delivery of the following specification:
GTI 3-door DSG Performance Tornado Red
Santiago 19" Alloys
Leather
Winter Pack for Leather
Discover Pro Sat Nav
Keyless Entry
Adaptive Chassis Control
Park Assist
High Beam Assist
Dynaudio
Rear View Camera
List price: £35,000
The winter pack is not worth it as you get heated seats as standard with the leather seats and you have to have headlight washers with xenons by law. The only thing you get is water indicator.
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I'm on that 30k limit (list price). I'm bloody glad for discounts and VAT free purchasing!!
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Based on that price and the waiting time you would be mad not to wait for the R to come out
To get a similar spec R you will be looking at well over £40K , My last R was £43K list ,and not so many deals on them,
as numbers allocated to dealers will be far less than GTI / GTD .
If the new R is as big in the plus department as the GTI is over the MK6 ,and having lived with one for 2 years ,you would
need a new Porcshe Turbo to get to the welsh coast any faster than the new R :wink: The cross country pace of
the Mk6 R was staggeringly Quick in the real World :smiley:
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Today I have been quoted 25 weeks for delivery of the following specification:
GTI 3-door DSG Performance Tornado Red
Santiago 19" Alloys
Leather
Winter Pack for Leather
Discover Pro Sat Nav
Keyless Entry
Adaptive Chassis Control
Park Assist
High Beam Assist
Dynaudio
Rear View Camera
List price: £35,000
The winter pack is not worth it as you get heated seats as standard with the leather seats and you have to have headlight washers with xenons by law. The only thing you get is water indicator.
Don't forget the heated washer jets !
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I purchased in the first week of October and was quoted 25 weeks.
Got a.call from my dealer this morning confirmed build week is 46 (10.11.2013) so we are way ahead of schedule and he reckons the car could be with us before the new year.
He said that vw have changed their production line and staff scheduling for the last quarter of 2013 to meet huge demand for golfs. There are many others on here who ordered in September and already have their build weeks.
I ordered 18th September, just checked tracker... I'm still on the old 'With Factory' :sad:
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Based on that price and the waiting time you would be mad not to wait for the R to come out
To get a similar spec R you will be looking at well over £40K , My last R was £43K list ,and not so many deals on them,
as numbers allocated to dealers will be far less than GTI / GTD .
If the new R is as big in the plus department as the GTI is over the MK6 ,and having lived with one for 2 years ,you would
need a new Porcshe Turbo to get to the welsh coast any faster than the new R :wink: The cross country pace of
the Mk6 R was staggeringly Quick in the real World :smiley:
It really depends on the starting price of the R. For starters you wouldn't need to spec leather or the Santiagos so there's a couple of K's saved straight away.
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Based on that price and the waiting time you would be mad not to wait for the R to come out
To get a similar spec R you will be looking at well over £40K , My last R was £43K list ,and not so many deals on them,
as numbers allocated to dealers will be far less than GTI / GTD .
If the new R is as big in the plus department as the GTI is over the MK6 ,and having lived with one for 2 years ,you would
need a new Porcshe Turbo to get to the welsh coast any faster than the new R :wink: The cross country pace of
the Mk6 R was staggeringly Quick in the real World :smiley:
It really depends on the starting price of the R. For starters you wouldn't need to spec leather or the Santiagos so there's a couple of K's saved straight away.
Depends on UK spec ,but 3 wheel options ,and 3 Interior options ,possibly 4 if Recaros are added later ,I got the German
configuator on my spec to 55,000 euros !!!! :shocked:
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IMO there's a certain price point above which the GTI just doesn't make sense and that is round about £30k. You start to go over this figure then you entering territory where there are better options.
This.
30k+ then wait for the R
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IMO there's a certain price point above which the GTI just doesn't make sense and that is round about £30k. You start to go over this figure then you entering territory where there are better options.
This.
30k+ then wait for the R
or the new audi s3 :wink:
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IMO there's a certain price point above which the GTI just doesn't make sense and that is round about £30k. You start to go over this figure then you entering territory where there are better options.
This.
30k+ then wait for the R
or the new audi s3 :wink:
But (and it's a big one) both the S3 and Golf R look as dull as ditch water - the GTI actually looks more 'special' than either of them.
Don't get me wrong, they are both going to leave a standard GTI trailing, but for me, I'd rather have a well specced GTI than a vanilla spec S3 or Golf R.
The old S3 actually looks better than the new one in my eyes!
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IMO there's a certain price point above which the GTI just doesn't make sense and that is round about £30k. You start to go over this figure then you entering territory where there are better options.
This.
30k+ then wait for the R
or the new audi s3 :wink:
But (and it's a big one) both the S3 and Golf R look as dull as ditch water - the GTI actually looks more 'special' than either of them.
Don't get me wrong, they are both going to leave a standard GTI trailing, but for me, I'd rather have a well specced GTI than a vanilla spec S3 or Golf R.
The old S3 actually looks better than the new one in my eyes!
dont look that dull to me :wink:
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc419/barrym381/2014_audi_s3_sportback_overseas_04-0213_zps437e6b62.jpg) (http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/barrym381/media/2014_audi_s3_sportback_overseas_04-0213_zps437e6b62.jpg.html)
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc419/barrym381/2014-volkswagen-golf-7-r-rendered-62679_1_zps84a1aa68.jpg) (http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/barrym381/media/2014-volkswagen-golf-7-r-rendered-62679_1_zps84a1aa68.jpg.html)
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IMO there's a certain price point above which the GTI just doesn't make sense and that is round about £30k. You start to go over this figure then you entering territory where there are better options.
This.
30k+ then wait for the R
or the new audi s3 :wink:
But (and it's a big one) both the S3 and Golf R look as dull as ditch water - the GTI actually looks more 'special' than either of them.
Don't get me wrong, they are both going to leave a standard GTI trailing, but for me, I'd rather have a well specced GTI than a vanilla spec S3 or Golf R.
The old S3 actually looks better than the new one in my eyes!
dont look that dull to me :wink:
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc419/barrym381/2014_audi_s3_sportback_overseas_04-0213_zps437e6b62.jpg) (http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/barrym381/media/2014_audi_s3_sportback_overseas_04-0213_zps437e6b62.jpg.html)
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc419/barrym381/2014-volkswagen-golf-7-r-rendered-62679_1_zps84a1aa68.jpg) (http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/barrym381/media/2014-volkswagen-golf-7-r-rendered-62679_1_zps84a1aa68.jpg.html)
S3 is even duller in the flesh than it is in photos!!
And if the Golf R looked like that I'd have held off my GTI order! Perhaps VW should have taken some heed of the photoshops prior to launch.
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If I wanted to and could afford to buy a Mark 7, the specification I would want is around £32.5K. This is for a GTD, to replace my current one (which was the best part of £30K - I didn't get a big discount). I wouldn't consider an S3 or an R, not least because I'd probably kill myself within three weeks, and they're a bit showy for me (too many exhausts, for example). I'd also be worried that some lowlifes would break in and steal the keys and make off with it whilst I was asleep.
If I were to change, I don't think I would consider anything other than a Golf, even at that price point. I'm not convinced by the the looks of the 1 series (sorry, Bear!) and the A3 in a comparable spec (S-line) to the GTD is only available with leather seats, which I refuse to have (if I wanted to sit on a cow, I'd wander down to my nearest field), and it looks too much like an estate car (or bus). And Audi are even worse than VW at screwing as much money out of you for things that really should come as standard or be much cheaper than they are.
The Golf is a good-looking, (mostly) reliable car. There's not much wrong with the build quality (rattles aside) and if you're lucky you can find a decent dealer who can service it properly. Tax is cheap, as is insurance (for me, at least). It's fairly anonymous, and a bit of an everyman's (or woman's) car. It's not snobby, showy or pretentious. In that respect at least, it's still a "people's car".
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At £32k the BMW 320d would be getting my attention. Arguably a better car than the GTD
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At £32k the BMW 320d would be getting my attention. Arguably a better car than the GTD
Rep mobile. Arguably better in what way? Same power (give or take a few PS either way), but VAG unit is smoother and noticeably quieter (BMW 2.0D is very rattly from cold). Standard equipment slightly better on the GTD, amazing handling for a front wheel drive car, no sh!tty run flat Fred Flintstone tyres. Looks a bigger car but interior space is about the same. £6k more for a car that pretty much does the same thing, similar performance, less well equipped and is pretty staid inside and out. 44% GFV on the BMW vs 56% on the GTD (admittedly extensive options will bring this down, but the GTD with £6k equipment will be worth around £2k more than the BMW after 3 years).
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At £32k the BMW 320d would be getting my attention. Arguably a better car than the GTD
Rep mobile. Arguably better in what way? Same power (give or take a few PS either way), but VAG unit is smoother and noticeably quieter (BMW 2.0D is very rattly from cold). Standard equipment slightly better on the GTD, amazing handling for a front wheel drive car, no sh!tty run flat Fred Flintstone tyres. Looks a bigger car but interior space is about the same. £6k more for a car that pretty much does the same thing, similar performance, less well equipped and is pretty staid inside and out. 44% GFV on the BMW vs 56% on the GTD (admittedly extensive options will bring this down, but the GTD with £6k equipment will be worth around £2k more than the BMW after 3 years).
Ok let me rephrase that. At £32k I would not be buying either a GTI or GTD because I do not believe it represents value for money. IMO BMW are a class above VW and in my eyes a more premium brand so if it was me my £32k would be heading in the direction of BMW.
Plus going by what most of you guys are saying on the TDI thread regarding mpg, the GTD appears to be fairing pretty badly just now whereas the 320D by all accounts is a very economical machine. Is mpg not one of the principal reasons why you went down the GTD route?
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Well I disagree with the BMW being a better car!!!
I have a X1 2.0d M Sport, and has had a new Transfer box fitted last October and just last month was in again to the dealers with the same problem, this time the garage changed the oil on the transfer box to quieten the noise, and that was it fixed!!!....eh don't think so!!!
On our way from Aberdeen to Manchester on route to our holiday the noise starts again and even worse to be honest.
So have lost all faith and not a happy bunny with John Clark BMW Aberdeen!!!!
Shower of Tw@ts just tell you what you want to hear.....
So 2 weeks ago I ordered a new Gti from Hawco Peterhead with a BW50
Was a VAG man most of my driving days, and for some reason we tried a BMW, so in the future I will tale you this, I won't be going near them ever again!!! :angry:
Rant over......Gti hurry up :grin:
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If you've been in a 1 or 3 series lately you'll know they're not better inside or out than a MK7 Golf. They have plenty of mechanical issues of their own - my cousin has just been stung for the common issue of butterfly valve dropping off the turbo assembly and doing a lot of damage, just out of warranty, £1600 bill. BMW will not help him out at all and refuse to acknowledge it as a common fault even though there is plenty of forum buzz for people having the same issues.
Comparatively woeful residual values for a German car make the BMW 320D a bad buy too. When you're paying £32k out for a car residuals matter. I'd be more tempted to spend £32k on an Audi A5. The BMW brand has taken quite a hit as a "premium" brand in the last few years as they've agressively replaced the Mondeo as the rep car with the 3 series and 1 series are very easy to get a hold of. Audi and Merc seem to hold far mare prestige right now. I do agree that a fully loaded GTI/GTD with £6k worth of extras is £4.5k wasted purely from a financial point of view. but a GTI and a GTD hold more of an interest to the passing motorist than one of an army of BMW 320Ds you see up and down the motorways, even if a basic one costs less.
Don't see many people clamouring to buy a BMW 320D privately, they get bought in large volumes through fleet and then all get dumped on the market via auction at 3 years old - the main reason their residuals are so low.
From a mpg point of view it is early days for the GTD - hoping for mpg to climb appreciably up to 5k miles. People in the 2.0TDI (150PS) GTs have been reporting this on other forums (well most have).
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Getting back on topic I'm bw03 next year also on a gtd. I ordered start of Sep. I'm hoping once bw gets confirmed it might creep forward but even so delivery is looking like early next year :(
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Getting back on topic I'm bw03 next year also on a gtd. I ordered start of Sep. I'm hoping once bw gets confirmed it might creep forward but even so delivery is looking like early next year :(
Just seems like a lottery as to what BW you get - doesn't appear to have relevance to when it was ordered, with poor you at the the sh*t end of the extreme. Anyway you look at it, it don't make much sense. Plus there's other chaps still in build at BW38/9, while some BW40's are now with their owners.
Anyway, must not grumble, at the end of the day (when it does happen) we'll all be chuffed to bits, and the wait will have been very much worth it. :grin: