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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: MM087 on 10 October 2013, 16:39
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I ordered my GTD on the 13th September and was Originally told delivery should be March. I have just spoken to VW Customer Services regarding the rear view camera, whilst on the phone I asked if they had an estimated build week and I was told Week 45 (Week commencing 4th November).
Now Im wondering does this time from Ordering to Build sound correct ? Also why would the dealer quote me March.
I was hoping to get it on a 14 Plate and if it turns up early, will they hold it until March for me ? Hmmmm
Ive ordered:
MK7 GTD
3dr
Manual
Oryx White
Santiago Alloys
Park Assist
Keyless Entry
Discovery Nav
DynAudio
Service Pack
Im currently running a Scirocco GT TDi, which is Great ! I had the RNS-510 fitted to it and over the last few weeks found myself using the on board storage more on more for my Music.
Im contemplating upgrading from the Discovery Nav to the Nav Pro ? Any thoughts on Pos/Negs ? How good is the standard system for playing Media.
Do you think my car will get the Updates from this: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=260090.0 as VW Customer Services couldnt advise.
Thanks
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That's strange... I'm only just off the phone with VW and they said my gti is set for build week 45 as well. I only finalised the deal just over a week and the dealer made it clear to me before ordering it would be about March. Either vw uk are making it up or somehow vw Wolfsburg are chucking out cars ultra fast. I won't be holding my breath for it being built in 2013 though.
Having seen both the standard head unit and pro nav... The pro nav definitely gets some extra plus points but at £1750+ I could not justify it for me personally. Definitely looks the part though.
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Maybe the intial swarm of orders is over, and they can now produce them in relatively good time frames ?
If it's true, then you lucky ba5tards :grin: :grin: A lot of us here had to wait over 6 months for ours !
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Did they say which year they were referring to lol
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That sounds ultra fast. You've got quite a few options on there too. Ordered mine on 18th Sept. VW Dealer said it would most likely be February arrival. 3 weeks on, get unconfirmed BW50 and dealer says might be Early January. I'm keeping my mind focused on it being Feb still, that way I'll either be well chuffed if it's early, and not disappointed if it's Feb!
Husband says: "Oh no, you don't want BW 50... They'll be all thinking about Christmas and beer, not building a quality GTI!!!". Hope not! :undecided:
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Did they say which year they were referring to lol
Haha... Now there's a point :laugh:
Maybe the intial swarm of orders is over, and they can now produce them in relatively good time frames ?
If it's true, then you lucky ba5tards :grin: :grin: A lot of us here had to wait over 6 months for ours !
I originally thought that. Couldn't believe it though when he said the build week so asked him to confirm and he said the car would most likely be with me for the start of December. Time will tell I suppose.
Is it wrong for me to hope that VW are also wrong with the dates being that early... :undecided:
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Im really confused ...
To be told March and then the car to arrive say 4 weeks from build i.e. 4th December is massively out on the timescales and so if you call any dealer now they are saying 21 weeks on Average ?
Even if it arrives early Im probably going to wait for the 14 Plate, I know you will think Im mad but when I ordered and was told March I was thinking of it as a Bday present to myself. ha
Any thoughts on the Nav situation as I guess I will need to let them know soon if I want to change, shame about the rear camera though
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Well I was planning on keeping the Scirocco until March, plus with it being white and Im really OCD about keeping it clean it will be a Nightmare over the Winter. Ha
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VW can't win, they delivery months later and get slated, they deliver months early and get slated :laugh:
Maybe the dealer has had a customer cancel and you've taken their build slot or maybe folk are fed up being told its a 6 month wait so have went elsewhere and the rush as quelled a bit.
That's a big ask, asking the dealer to keep the car from December until March. I suppose you could tell them you had worked out your finances on the car not coming till March like they said so it is now inconvenient and can they help you out.
What is it on the Nav pro you prefer? Just the onboard storage? You could always attach a hard drive via the USB if its capacity your concerned about!
Did VW say anything about the Rear View Camera? I emailed them asking when it would be available to order again and they told me about the shortage and that's why its been removed so those that ordered it would be guaranteed to get it.
She reckoned it would be back soon but wouldn't commit to when.
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Im not complaining at all, just very taken back by the big difference in estimates surely as a Dealer when they place your order they have access to the system to give predicted dates.
They advised me they had placed other orders around the time of mine, and those were showing for mid/late Feb so it just baffled me how they have wiped effectively 3 months from the wait time.
To be fair I genuinely had worked out the Finances from March, as Im currently in the process of changing job due to redundancy.
So earlier in the week worked out I wouldnt be paying any Finance until April time roughly as the Scirocco is owned outright.
Nav Pro is appealing purely for the on-board Storage, being able to store all my songs, the track listings and Album Art. lol
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Nav Pro is appealing purely for the on-board Storage, being able to store all my songs, the track listings and Album Art. lol
Hard drive will accommodate all your music and will show track listings and Album Art if set up correctly.
I had a 320Gb one in my Golf with no problems and held everything.
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How sure are you this will work ? :grin:
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Looks like VW UK have been right... Woke up to this nice surprise.
Less than 2 weeks and it's gone to a build week already :smiley:
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Mine is showing the exact same now 3/11/13
Is it impossible to get the Spec Changed ?
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Mine is showing the exact same now 3/11/13
Is it impossible to get the Spec Changed ?
One of the other guys will be able to confirm this but I think if you make any changes now you will loose your build date. Although I think it can depend on what it is you want to change.
If your still thinking about the Pro Nav you should maybe contact the dealer. If you really want it then it may be worth the extra money.
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The dealer has annoyed me slightly, I told them at the point of ordering if the Rear Camera became available at any point before the order was confirmed to just add it and I would pay the cost of the £165 - the discount at the point of collection as there is no point adding that to the finance.
It turns out you could actually order this as of Thursday and my order was not confirmed until Friday so the changes could have been done before the order was confirmed but VW UK said they are unsure why the dealer didnt do it for me before the order was confirmed.
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Would be annoyed myself if I had asked to be contacted when the cameras became available. Could be a case that they simply forgot but it's still not excusable really.
I would call the dealer and ask to see if it is possible to get the camera added and if so, how much of a delay could there be.
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Its annoying as they had it in writing they could add it as soon as it became available and given the car shouldn't have been built until sometime next year its frustrating that is now available and cant be added. lol
Ive sent emails but no response as of yet
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Even if it arrives early Im probably going to wait for the 14 Plate
Any of yous who have just gone to BW confirmed considering doing this if it comes in, say, Jan?
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I signed a contract on September 19 2013 and was quoted on that contract "4-5 months delivery", taking it to Jan/Feb 2014 time.
Oddly in Switzerland we have no public online system for tracking VW builds, so I have to ask the dealer, who can see it through his system.
I checked at the beginning of October and was told it could be be November 2013 (this is with rear camera, which was also quoted as a problem here). So looks like the demand is falling of the factory are on overtime...
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Just spoken to them, I would need to cancel and re-order ?
Decisions, Decisions
Do you rekon VW UK could help with this
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Just spoken to them, I would need to cancel and re-order ?
Decisions, Decisions
Do you rekon VW UK could help with this
Looks like you could reorder and still get the same delivery date you expected on the original order.
German forum is talking of as low as 7 week delivery for the GTI but longer than this for the GTD:
http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/golf-7-gti-lieferzeit-t4440623.html?page=34
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Not got a confirmed build date yet, looks like I'm off to add it to the order!!!
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Do you rekon I should cancel and re-order or just push and see if VW CS etc. can get this amended for me ? And then let them keep the car for me in the compound until March
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If it was me and I really wanted the camera as well as wait on a 2014 plate then I would contact the dealership and explain to them that I wished to re-order because they failed to tell me the cameras had now become available.
It's really a decision only you can make though. It's a lot of money to be spending so you might as well get what you want :tongue:
I know I would have liked the camera but to be honest it would serve little benefit for the amount of driving I do so am happy to keep my order. Still looks the part though, especially if you have the nav pro.
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Please can someone put a link to the vw build tracker? Much appreciated.
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http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order
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Cheers chief. :grin:
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How sure are you this will work ? :grin:
I'd put my mortgage on it :laugh:
As for adding options and getting VW UK to help you, I very much doubt it.
I had a similar thing with my Golf order. I wanted to add the heated seats and the dealer said it had "just" got a confirmed build week so couldn't alter the order. They said the would try though.
Came back to me and said it wasn't possible.
So I phoned VW UK at Milton Keynes as I thought the dealer was just saying that.
First operator said, sorry once you get a confirmed build date you would have to cancel the car and re order if you wanetd to change the spec.
Being the untrusting person I am I phoned back another twice as I thought I would go for best of 3 answers :laugh:
One operator was optimistic and actually took my details and said he would contact Wolfsburg direct but came back with the same answer as everyone else.
If you want to add or amend your order once you have a confirmed build date you will have to cancel and reorder.
Has the camera definitely been added? Its still not on the configurator, although that doesn't surprise me.
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Lucky you! I WANT mine earlier, but it's still sitting at "with the factory". I ordered the car on 4th September!!!
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Lucky you! I WANT mine earlier, but it's still sitting at "with the factory". I ordered the car on 4th September!!!
Long wait ahead of you methinks - 23 weeks is about average. Settle down there fella! :grin:
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Without you guys thinking Im nuts I think I am going to cancel and re-order.
Tried to get the dealer to sort it to no avail and the same with VW CS !
I just think I dont want to regret not having it, given I had it on the initial order only to be told it couldnt be ordered.
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Haha.. Your nuts :laugh: oj
In the long term your probably making the wise move. It would probably only annoy you and detract from the new car feeling if you didn't have everything you wanted. Hopefully won't be too long waiting on a new build date. :smiley:
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Does every option you ordered appear on the tracker?
You can see the options I added in my signature below, but my tracker doesn't show them. In fact it shows Performance pack which I didn't even order!
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for the record you can see that mine still says with the factory and now build week yet. 2 weeks post order and I understand some of you lucky guys managed to move to stage 3 within a fornight! I am going to wait for the 14 plate anyway but will feel better doing that stint of the wait in the knowledge that the car is in blighty.
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The online tracker won't show your extras...just basic info including colour etc.
I've noticed a few other people mentioning that there order said performance pack even though they didn't order it... Might be worth while confirming this with your dealer though as well as getting an estimated build date (if you haven't already).
If your aiming for a 14 plate it's definitely worth while holding out and hoping you don't get a confirmed build for a while. I was surprised to get mine so soon but am just hoping to drag it out until January so it's a 2014 registered car.
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Interestingly ... The dealer emailed me earlier saying I have 50 days to complete the sale as that is when VW require payment for that vehicle so if this car came in early which would be approx the 2nd week of December they wouldnt hold it until March for me.
I have advised that It doesnt work for me Financially also I want a 14 plate so lets see what happens.
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On that basis, and if it was me, I would definitely be looking to cancel and reorder.
That way you know financially it's better, your getting the spec you want, getting a 14 plate... and you'll also miss the worst of the UK winter weather/ roads.
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Exactly
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Is the camera definitely able to be ordered now?
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Yep
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The online tracker won't show your extras...just basic info including colour etc.
I've noticed a few other people mentioning that there order said performance pack even though they didn't order it... Might be worth while confirming this with your dealer though as well as getting an estimated build date (if you haven't already).
Called up the dealer to confirm this, he assures me that Perf. Pack has NOT been ordered and I will NOT be getting it. Having said that he can't offer any explanation as to why the tracker would say otherwise, but if it does end up coming with it I won't be paying for it. Fine by me. Confirmed BW is 46, I think the manual cars are being churned out quicker.
Any others whose tracker showed PP who had not ordered, what happened? I don't suppose you ended up getting it else a bigger fuss would have been made on here.
Interestingly ... The dealer emailed me earlier saying I have 50 days to complete the sale as that is when VW require payment for that vehicle so if this car came in early which would be approx the 2nd week of December they wouldnt hold it until March for me.
I have advised that It doesnt work for me Financially also I want a 14 plate so lets see what happens.
Told dealer I wanted to wait till March for the 14 plate. Even though he expects it to arrive in the UK before the new year he says that it's not a problem, they can leave it in a sealed container at the dock and transport it when ready, that way will be saved from the elements during the harshest winter months. What are the downsides to the car sitting there for best part of 3 months?
Also asked specifically if there was a time limit that VW impose from production to sale being finalised, he said no.
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Oh right ... Not sure why this dealer is telling me I have 50 days ?
I asked the question on Facebook about this, and within an hour or so I got a called from the Chief Execs office. Stressed to them that I wasn't making a complaint about the dealer as I don't want to piss any dealers off and fundamentally I want the car BUT with the Camera and working to my timescale, unless they give me a cracking deal to help with the financial situation and take the Scirocco off my hands now Im not sure how they can push the matter given my order form States March Delivery.
The Chief Execs office told me they will get back to me on Tuesday with a resolution to both things (Camera & Delivery time)
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So, Ive heard back from the dealer and have any of the following 3 options avail:
1). Cancel the order and refund of my deposit - Only Prob struggling to find a dealer to Match the original deal + cost of the Camera at £165
2). Re-Order however it won't be on the same terms - Now the car would be an additional cost of approx £1600
3). Keep the current order BUT have to Pay and collect within 50 days. Now I want a 14 Plate and that is what I was expecting, the car is due to go into production Build week 44 (3/11/13) so I assume it will be the new Updated cycle ?
They are being insistent the car is collected by the end of Jan at the very very latest
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Maybe that 50 day limit is the timeframe in which the dealership have to pay VW UK for the cars they've had delivered. The dealerships work on a credit scheme with VW UK. 50 days to pay up once they've received the car sounds like a reasonable assumption.
If you can't come close to the deal you negotiated to do a reorder then you'd be losing money. You could be getting a 63 plate car less than halfway through the 63 plate's life, rather than literally 2 weeks before it expires. BW44 is now - you could have your mitts on it in a month's time if everything goes smoothly!
If you've already negotiated that big a discount then I doubt any more sweeteners are coming your way to take it "early". You'll have to either take it early (and you might as well get it in Nov rather than Jan to make the most of the current plate - if finances allow) or give it up and order again - potentially getting it end of March/mid April if you have to wait 24 weeks like most here have had to.
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It seems when it comes to these rear view cameras that common sense goes straight out the window. So cancel the order and potentially wait a further 24 weeks for one with a camera that will cost you far in excess of the £165 :huh:. The world had truly gone mad
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MM087: If you have a fixed p/x price then you’ll be lucky to be offered the same terms on it – more likely they’ll knock you down a little. On the other hand, if the car was ordered with intent to pick up in March and your p/x is based on handover in March, then to be picking up the car maybe 3 -4 months early, I’d be hoping for a little more money on the p/x.
How much depends on what it is and how old it is. For my Scirocco, it was depreciating at around £230 a month. If the dealership were getting a hold of it 4 months earlier than planned for and valued at then I would have been looking for about £900 more on my p/x.
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It seems when it comes to these rear view cameras that common sense goes straight out the window. So cancel the order and potentially wait a further 24 weeks for one with a camera that will cost you far in excess of the £165 :huh:. The world had truly gone mad
What is it with this rear view camera!!!
Had a rear camera on my edition 35. WOULD NOT bother again
Every time it operated I still looked behind to check
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Well, I have spoken to literally about 10 dealers since the camera could be ordered and no-one can come close to the deal. So my only options is to take the car that I ordered as it has everything else other than the camera on it, shame they can't/won't retro-fit for me given companies like Hazzydayz etc. seem to be offering it albeit at just under £700.
I am out of the country at the moment and not back until Feb so collecting early isn't an option which is why I am hoping that VW UK who are speaking with the dealer are able to sort something, so I can take the car in March as planned after-all on my Order form it clearly says March and that is the dates I was working on for collection, financial reasons etc.
I noticed when they sent me the PCP quote for the new car with the Camera + new cost of £1600 I noticed the APR is now 5.9% down from 6.3% but the GFV has dropped too.
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Have you tried going through one of the fleet car buying websites, like DriveTheDeal? They maybe able to get closer to your original discount with the camera included. In addition, lead time when buying through these lines are often higher/low priority to the dealership etc.
Also - look at VW UK's financial year quarter. You may be better off holding out then order again in say December time.
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Hi,
Even drive the deal are approx £800 more expensive
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It seems when it comes to these rear view cameras that common sense goes straight out the window. So cancel the order and potentially wait a further 24 weeks for one with a camera that will cost you far in excess of the £165 :huh:. The world had truly gone mad
It may not have any value to you, but to someone else it may be a very valuable and useful addition to their car. Their priorities may be different to yours. There's nothing wrong with that. Last time I checked, having differing opinions is not a crime.
If you're spending a load of money on a car, what's wrong with getting the specification spot on, especially if you plan on keeping it for a good few years?
What is it with this rear view camera!!!
Had a rear camera on my edition 35. WOULD NOT bother again
Every time it operated I still looked behind to check
So, because you think it's useless, everyone else should too?
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MM087:
Not sure what you’re saying there. Has the APR dropped to 5.9% from 6.3% anyway, or only on the replacement order should you choose not to take what you ordered. A 0.4% APR saving is probably going to save you around £6 a month in interest on average. What has the GFV dropped to as either a value or % of RRP?
The order form might say March, but if it’s been built early and VW UK force the dealership to take it when it is ready and their terms mean that the dealership have to pay for it within 50 days of receiving it, and initial estimated build date supplied by VW tied in well with your plans then I would lay all blame at the door of VW UK. The dealership are in an awkward position – either they pay VW UK for your car out of their own pocket and hold it for 4/6 weeks before finally getting your money for it, or it becomes a stock car and they order you another on renegotiated terms. Have they said outright that they wouldn’t honour the terms of the deal struck if they had to order another one to suit your timeframe? They don’t have to. They’re not obliged to sell you a car, they can just give you your deposit back and send you on your way if they think they’ll make more money from another customer by offering less of a deal.
If you’re not back in the country until Feb anyway then I can’t see how they can make you take it earlier than that (which still may be beyond 50 days from delivery to the dealer) – you have to be there to pick it up. Might be possible for a relative to pick it up as an extra named driver on the complimentary 7 day insurance if you sort the financials by post, but then it’ll be sitting there doing nowt until you get back.
I’m pretty sure the car will have to be registered before you take out finance, so starting the finance early but putting off registration to March 1st isn’t an option.
The camera is a bit of a gadget option that is popular because it is relatively cheap and the first few times you use it you might think it looks cool. The graphical warning interface does me fine. Is distance really any clearer with the camera? Are you having to interpret distance from object by what you see in the camera rather than what the graphical colour changing bars are doing? Waiting for the camera to wind itself out before reversing would probably annoy me in the longer term. I doubt you’d miss not having it nor feel any more in danger of hitting something behind you by having the graphical display rather than the camera.
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Hi,
It would seem the APR on the Finance has dropped from the 6.3% when I ordered in September to the 5.9% now on offer which is better for me. I Assume I would go on the latest deal when taking the car so this lower rate would surely apply if I stuck with the car that is arriving early.
GFV Was: £14,006.70 Now £13,726.57 (As of 27/10)
In all honesty due to the deal I got, Its extremely unlikely to bettered/matched elsewhere without the hassle of having to go through a new ordering process and having spoken to 10+ dealers since this started nobody is coming close not even Drive the Deal etc.
They have outright said they can't do the same deal, because they did the deal on the current order based on their targets/bonus etc and took a hit on the deal to secure a sale and get their bonus. They are in a better position this quarter and don't need to make an offer like that now hence the offer to fully return my deposit.
Im going to speak to the VW office again and see if they can come to an arrangement regarding this 50 day thing, because when we last spoke the person said they weren't even sure if this was a VW thing or not and would look to get it sorted for me.
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It seems when it comes to these rear view cameras that common sense goes straight out the window. So cancel the order and potentially wait a further 24 weeks for one with a camera that will cost you far in excess of the £165 :huh:. The world had truly gone mad
It may not have any value to you, but to someone else it may be a very valuable and useful addition to their car. Their priorities may be different to yours. There's nothing wrong with that. Last time I checked, having differing opinions is not a crime.
If you're spending a load of money on a car, what's wrong with getting the specification spot on, especially if you plan on keeping it for a good few years?
What is it with this rear view camera!!!
Had a rear camera on my edition 35. WOULD NOT bother again
Every time it operated I still looked behind to check
So, because you think it's useless, everyone else should too?
Unless you have a bad back or some medical condition that prevents you from looking behind then its a complete gimmick. You would potentially delay your order by 6 months and spend an extra £1600 for the privilege. Get real!
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MM087:
You get the deal in force with VW finance when you pick the car up. For those that ordered in April and bought the service pack, only for it to subsequently drop in the meantime should have paid out on the newer and lower price. If you got a finance summary example at 6.3% when ordering and then get a fresh one on pick-up with the 5.9% terms (including lower GFV), you will get the 5.9% one because the 6.3% terms won’t be available any more. You won’t lose out on the GFV drop – the car will be worth £280.13 less (at minimum if all you get is GFV, worst case scenario), but you’ll have saved about that in the lower APR. Did VW engineer the GFV change that way when they might have felt obliged to drop their APR rates due to the competition being lower? Probably, more people buy a new VW on Solutions than don’t, especially at the higher cost end.
Maybe between the plates VW has decided to lower the APR (German customers were getting 1.8% APR a short while back and our base rate is a lot lower than their right now) to tempt people to order a car who may have otherwise been putting it off.
While GTI/GTD deliveries are backed up and demand is exceeding supply, the dealers won’t be giving anything away that they don’t need to. They have their GTI/GTD sales sewn up for the next 5 months, and then there’ll be the rush for the new plate to keep them going.
If you are compelled to take your car in Jan and if you can’t come acoross a deal that is within £1000 (in your favour) of your current deal then you’ll be losing out. Despite the new plate, in 3 years time a late 63 won’t be worth more than a grand less than a March 14 plate example.
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GFV does seem to have dropped a smidge (about £61 on a 5 door GTD since I got mine), but it seems in both the GTI and GTD that the 5 door version holds 1.2% more of sticker price than the 3 door version.
The GFV price differential between 3 and 5 door versions of either the GTI or GTD at 3 years old is larger than the new price differential between 3 doors and 5 doors. 5 doors can therefore be seen as a “free” option over the 3 door version.
GTI cost of going 5 door = £655, GFV gap = £662.72
GTD cost of going 5 door = £655, GFV gap = £684.16
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It seems when it comes to these rear view cameras that common sense goes straight out the window. So cancel the order and potentially wait a further 24 weeks for one with a camera that will cost you far in excess of the £165 :huh:. The world had truly gone mad
It may not have any value to you, but to someone else it may be a very valuable and useful addition to their car. Their priorities may be different to yours. There's nothing wrong with that. Last time I checked, having differing opinions is not a crime.
If you're spending a load of money on a car, what's wrong with getting the specification spot on, especially if you plan on keeping it for a good few years?
What is it with this rear view camera!!!
Had a rear camera on my edition 35. WOULD NOT bother again
Every time it operated I still looked behind to check
So, because you think it's useless, everyone else should too?
Unless you have a bad back or some medical condition that prevents you from looking behind then its a complete gimmick. You would potentially delay your order by 6 months and spend an extra £1600 for the privilege. Get real!
I think you all ought to realise that this guys initial issue is that he can't take delivery in January if his car is built early (same situation as me and my car is ordered for delivery in March but the dealer assures me it's going to be here for Christmas as I've got to arrange shipping the car overseas).
At the end of the day it's his choice and some of the (quite frankly) rude replies are not what I thought this forum was all about. I personally added the rear view camera to my order around a week after I initially ordered and it's only going to cost me whatever the option costs. I think the OP is just attempting to see what his situation is regarding early delivery/reordering etc. and it's implications - remember his dealer is saying that the car has to be delivered by the end of January but he can't collect until February and would like to collect in March.
If you've not got anything constructive to add which will actually aid the OP, then perhaps go look up some other threads as it seems to be getting close to trolling to me!
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I think you all ought to realise that this guys initial issue is that he can't take delivery in January if his car is built early (same situation as me and my car is ordered for delivery in March but the dealer assures me it's going to be here for Christmas as I've got to arrange shipping the car overseas).
At the end of the day it's his choice and some of the (quite frankly) rude replies are not what I thought this forum was all about. I personally added the rear view camera to my order around a week after I initially ordered and it's only going to cost me whatever the option costs. I think the OP is just attempting to see what his situation is regarding early delivery/reordering etc. and it's implications - remember his dealer is saying that the car has to be delivered by the end of January but he can't collect until February and would like to collect in March.
If you've not got anything constructive to add which will actually aid the OP, then perhaps go look up some other threads as it seems to be getting close to trolling to me!
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If the key issue for the OP is not being in a position to collect before April then i can fully appreciate that. My astonishment is people who are willing to wait an extrordinary length of time for a component that, lets face it, will not make a jot of difference to the overall driving experience. How often do you have your car in reverse, 30 seconds a day if that?
Of course people are entitled to choose whatever options they wish. It's been extremely unfortunate for those that had already ordered the car with the camera to then be told they can't have it due to shortages. However, to consider cancelling your order on the basis of a camera just seems crazy IMO. Yes, if it was a shortage of auto boxes or Performance packs that would really have an impact on your driving experience then i can fully understand the decision to cancel.
If there is any way the OP could collect the car early then they should as they have negotiated a fantastic discount and when you drive the car and realise how good it is going forward :grin: you will quickly forget about the reverse camera.
p.s. there is a clear difference between trolling and voicing an opinion
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It seems when it comes to these rear view cameras that common sense goes straight out the window. So cancel the order and potentially wait a further 24 weeks for one with a camera that will cost you far in excess of the £165 :huh:. The world had truly gone mad
It may not have any value to you, but to someone else it may be a very valuable and useful addition to their car. Their priorities may be different to yours. There's nothing wrong with that. Last time I checked, having differing opinions is not a crime.
If you're spending a load of money on a car, what's wrong with getting the specification spot on, especially if you plan on keeping it for a good few years?
What is it with this rear view camera!!!
Had a rear camera on my edition 35. WOULD NOT bother again
Every time it operated I still looked behind to check
So, because you think it's useless, everyone else should too?
Unless you have a bad back or some medical condition that prevents you from looking behind then its a complete gimmick. You would potentially delay your order by 6 months and spend an extra £1600 for the privilege. Get real!
I think you all ought to realise that this guys initial issue is that he can't take delivery in January if his car is built early (same situation as me and my car is ordered for delivery in March but the dealer assures me it's going to be here for Christmas as I've got to arrange shipping the car overseas).
At the end of the day it's his choice and some of the (quite frankly) rude replies are not what I thought this forum was all about. I personally added the rear view camera to my order around a week after I initially ordered and it's only going to cost me whatever the option costs. I think the OP is just attempting to see what his situation is regarding early delivery/reordering etc. and it's implications - remember his dealer is saying that the car has to be delivered by the end of January but he can't collect until February and would like to collect in March.
If you've not got anything constructive to add which will actually aid the OP, then perhaps go look up some other threads as it seems to be getting close to trolling to me!
A constructive comment was "Had it on my Edition 35. Would not bother again. Every time it operated I still looked behind" I have a bad back!!
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Hmmmm ... Some interesting comments.
I would only have considered cancelling if the same order was on the table + the cost of the option not additional £1600 that would be mental.
The timing of its arrival is an inconvenience but Im hopeful we can arrange something in order for me to get it on a 14 Plate.
In anycase Im just going to take this car as I specced it, was happy with it and the deal and should also benefit from the now lower 5.9% APR compared to the 6.3% at the time of ordering, but could it work the other way due to the lower GFV ?
Thanks
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Hmmmm ... Some interesting comments.
I would only have considered cancelling if the same order was on the table + the cost of the option not additional £1600 that would be mental.
The timing of its arrival is an inconvenience but Im hopeful we can arrange something in order for me to get it on a 14 Plate.
In anycase Im just going to take this car as I specced it, was happy with it and the deal and should also benefit from the now lower 5.9% APR compared to the 6.3% at the time of ordering, but could it work the other way due to the lower GFV ?
Thanks
Good choice pal. :smiley:. Apologies if I came across as being a bit of a miserable git. It must be old age :grin:
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I wonder if VW customer service will help shed some more light on an official line re: 50 day limit. Let us know what happens with the 14 plate I am sure that is relevant to many others.
You've made the right choice and I am sure you'll be more than content when it arrives.
As the elders always said, "A GTI/GTD in hand is worth two in the factory."
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So the car is due to go into production the week commencing the 3/11/13 - Now am i correct in thinking this will get the updated stuff - Mirror folding from the Remote / Lightning cable etc.
How long does it take for the car get through the production line and from this point how long does it approx take for the arrive to hit the dealer over here ?
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So the car is due to go into production the week commencing the 3/11/13 - Now am i correct in thinking this will get the updated stuff - Mirror folding from the Remote / Lightning cable etc.
How long does it take for the car get through the production line and from this point how long does it approx take for the arrive to hit the dealer over here ?
If it’s built to schedule rather than a few weeks late then it could be at your dealership in 5/6 weeks from the commencement of build week.
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It would be ideal if it was Late December going into the Festive period so It gets caught up in a backlog, ha
Then 50 days from when they get it could work for me and collection on a 14 plate
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It would be ideal if it was Late December going into the Festive period so It gets caught up in a backlog, ha
Then 50 days from when they get it could work for me and collection on a 14 plate
Here's my 2p, surely the dealership has the power to delay the car at the UK port, just let it sit there a bit longer. They could delay it if they really wanted to.
My thinking is they want you to take it as soon as possible so they can meet their yearly quota's. :sad:
The problem is, once the car hits the dealership the get charge some kind of compound interest on the car if its just sat there.
Glad your sticking with the car :cool:
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According to VW Customer Services the 50 Day thing is true as that is when the dealer has to physically pay for that car sold or not. So may end up with a 63 Plate instead of the 14 Plate I want
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According to VW Customer Services the 50 Day thing is true as that is when the dealer has to physically pay for that car sold or not. So may end up with a 63 Plate instead of the 14 Plate I want
I wouldn't worry about plates these days, it's not such a big deal as it once used to be. Just enjoy the car once your sat in it :laugh:
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Yes I understand that the dealer may have to pay for it within 50 days (even if you don't necessarily pay them within that time). Some dealers will be able to cover that and others not. My dealer is selling the GTI/GTD like hot cakes and they may be cash rich to be able to fund it waiting in the container dockside for me even if the VW imposed date passes during that time.
Or they may in VW fashion do a complete u-turn in which case I'll be on here complaining about it.
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lol ... I hope my dealer will hold it for me.
Im trying to sort that out as the deal I got is brilliant
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What would happen if the dealer was to phone you and say the car was ready to be collected and you told them you were out the country for 4 weeks with work commitments?
Is there an awful lot they could actually do to force you to collect it?
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Thats just the thing, I am out of the country and not back until 15th Feb. From what my dealer is saying I get the impression If I don't collect then they will return my deposit to me ?
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Officially taking ownership early (as late as they can allow – 50 days after delivery to dealership) and starting your finance a month early but leaving the car with them for safekeeping is an insurance minefield too that may be difficult to overcome. Can you get insurance for a car not in your care? Can they cover insurance for a car that isn’t officially theirs when there is no reason for it to be there (warranty/servicing work)?
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I have asked the question, lets see what happens !
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Hey Guys,
Something of a result ... after the intervention of the Exec Office the dealership have agreed to hold the car for me despite the 50 day rule which is true as verified by the above office and VW Customer Services. I think the only reason why they will hold it for me is due to the fact on my order form next the delivery date it clearly states 1st March 2014. :grin: :grin: :grin:
So good news ... Great deal, Happy with the Spec despite not having the camera and I will have it for the 1st which is cool as its a Bday present to myself. ha
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Hey Guys,
Something of a result ... after the intervention of the Exec Office the dealership have agreed to hold the car for me despite the 50 day rule which is true as verified by the above office and VW Customer Services. I think the only reason why they will hold it for me is due to the fact on my order form next the delivery date it clearly states 1st March 2014. :grin: :grin: :grin:
So good news ... Great deal, Happy with the Spec despite not having the camera and I will have it for the 1st which is cool as its a Bday present to myself. ha
Excellent news mate :smiley: don't worry about not having the rear-camera, It wouldnt have stopped me buying mine.
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That's great mate. Shame you didn't get the camera but as has been said, it's probably a little bit of a gimmick anyway (or alternatively, I've wasted £165 on a noisy boot badge!
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ha ha ..
Yeah looking forward to getting it now, and hopefully no more drama's !
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Good perseverance, well done. Now the scene is set hope you have a smooth build and delivery and can look forward to getting behind the wheel.
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Any mods you guys would recommend ?
I defo want to change the Sun Visor ? Glovebox and Boot lights to L.E.D. ? Any links