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Title: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 17:06
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Now dark and trying to get the feel for what its like in the cabin - so excuse the crappy quality pics
Door
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Sill
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Nav Pro - playing SD card Media
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Nav telling me I have no Fuel !!
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Center console
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Dials
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Now some of outside with flash

May need to watch the tail pipe soiling
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Side Logo
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Front Logo
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Headlight
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Extended 3 day test drive - and I'm liking it

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Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 August 2013, 17:08
Extended 3 day test drive - and I'm liking it

Dude how the hell did you get that? :shocked:

Really pisses me off that I only got a 15 minute drive along a prescribed route, followed by a hour of pushing for a sale. :angry:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 17:11
Extended 3 day test drive - and I'm liking it

Dude how the hell did you get that? :shocked:

Really pisses me off that I only got a 15 minute drive along a prescribed route, followed by a hour of pushing for a sale. :angry:

Company car driver ! they have to be nice to us....
I get to drive 3 cars for 3 days each ;)

I've had the MK7 GT - this is the GTI and I have a GTD to come :D
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 August 2013, 17:13
Well, lots of lovely pics and reviews to come over this weekend then I hope! :tongue:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: neilgcal on 02 August 2013, 17:16
Extended 3 day test drive - and I'm liking it

Dude how the hell did you get that? :shocked:

Really pisses me off that I only got a 15 minute drive along a prescribed route, followed by a hour of pushing for a sale. :angry:

I can't get one full stop!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 August 2013, 17:18
I can't get one full stop!

Damn, that really sucks.

Well at least you didn't have to sit though an hour of them taking details just so they can pester you via phone, email, text, snail mail...  small comfort perhaps.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 17:20
I must admit that its a three month wait as there are only 2 fleet demo's in the country.....

200 mile trip this weekend - so should get as good test

I think its the PP - how do I check?
got Nav Pro
Keyless
Dyn Audio
and is a DSG

It came this morning at 09:30 - but been so busy with work, its sat there until just when I took it for a quick spin.
Very impressive so far :)
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: CraigW on 02 August 2013, 17:23
I must admit that its a three month wait as there are only 2 fleet demo's in the country.....

200 mile trip this weekend - so should get as good test

I think its the PP - how do I check?
got Nav Pro
Keyless
and is a DSG

It came this morning at 09:30 - but been so busy with work, its sat there until just when I took it for a quick spin.
Very impressive so far :)

It should have GTI written on the callipers if its PP
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RedHP on 02 August 2013, 17:27
Rik, you lucky g*t !!
Is that from parkway, Derby ?

Whenever I take mine in for service, I have been given either a Fox, Polo or (recently) Tiguan. No Golf, and certainly no performance vehicle !

Red
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 17:28
I must admit that its a three month wait as there are only 2 fleet demo's in the country.....

200 mile trip this weekend - so should get as good test

I think its the PP - how do I check?
got Nav Pro
Keyless
and is a DSG

It came this morning at 09:30 - but been so busy with work, its sat there until just when I took it for a quick spin.
Very impressive so far :)

It should have GTI written on the callipers if its PP

No GTI on callipers - so must be standard GTI - still goes like stink though :D
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 17:32
Rik, you lucky g*t !!
Is that from parkway, Derby ?

Whenever I take mine in for service, I have been given either a Fox, Polo or (recently) Tiguan. No Golf, and certainly no performance vehicle !

Red

:D - its a fleet Demo - its actually been driven down from Stockport this morning !
Looking at the Nav - there are addresses from all over including Wales
But if fleet only have 2 - its perhaps been around the country

Parkway are OK - I had an UP with heated seats last time :) although my mate was given a Golf Convertible when he took his in

That reminds me - his MK7 GT is having issues with its keys - they last 3 weeks and then fail, after changing the batteries 4 times, they have now ordered him replacement fob's
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: drisser on 02 August 2013, 17:42
most dealers should offer retail guys an extended drive

My local ones offered me the GTi all afternoon - up to 5 hours in the end I took it for 3 hours which was nice to try it properly..
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 17:49
Couple more pics added to fist post
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Jimble on 02 August 2013, 17:53
Couple more pics added to fist post


Tight on your drive! Eek! ;D
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 17:59
Couple more pics added to fist post


Tight on your drive! Eek! ;D

Yeh - three on there - the wife put hers on before I squeezed the GTI in :)
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Running Man on 02 August 2013, 19:05
Enjoy, looking forward to your summery  :wink:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: skippy on 02 August 2013, 20:09
Wow - I thought I was fortunate getting a 45 min test drive (with salesman).

My courtesy cars are always something very basic, managed a Golf Plus once!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: GTI-Newbie on 02 August 2013, 20:49
Rik that will be the same car I'll be driving in about 2 weeks!!! I also have an extended test drive from Stockport as a company car driver so don't do to much damage  :wink:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 21:00
Rik that will be the same car I'll be driving in about 2 weeks!!! I also have an extended test drive from Stockport as a company car driver so don't do to much damage  :wink:

I would imagine it is mate :D

Just been a 'Ride' - country roads and dual carriageway - Freeeeeking hell - it is Immense !!!!  :evil:
In Sport, with the DSG set to sport - its scary !
Your gonna love it  :wink:

P.S. - you need deep pockets to drive like I just have - its averaged 19 mpg
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 22:13
Some new pics added to first post chaps

Anybody want anything in particular ?
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 02 August 2013, 23:56
Ah !!
It turned white - LOL

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don't you love infra-red security camera's  :laugh:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Jimble on 03 August 2013, 00:02
Some new pics added to first post chaps

Anybody want anything in particular ?

Wouldn't mind some average MPG figures during varied driving? And before anyone says "if your worried about mpg you should buy a GTD"

JUST DON'T!! Cos i don't buy into all that crap! :smiley:

Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 03 August 2013, 00:07

Wouldn't mind some average MPG figures during varied driving? And before anyone says "if your worried about mpg you should buy a GTD"

JUST DON'T!! Cos i don't buy into all that crap! :smiley:

I wouldn't mind knowing that too Jimble :nerd:

We now know that nailing it gets you around 19 mpg. So lets see the flip side....
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RocketRossUK on 03 August 2013, 00:07
Man it looks ugly from the back in that 3rd picture...what VW thinking  :sick:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 00:25

Wouldn't mind some average MPG figures during varied driving? And before anyone says "if your worried about mpg you should buy a GTD"

JUST DON'T!! Cos i don't buy into all that crap! :smiley:

I wouldn't mind knowing that too Jimble :nerd:

We now know that nailing it gets you around 19 mpg. So lets see the flip side....

200 mile trip coming up on Sunday - I will get some figures from that and while I'm kicking around Saturday.

Planned to switch to eco mode on Sunday for the trip
Saturday - I will do a mix of normal, eco and sport

:) P.S. I have gone for the GTD and after seeing 19mpg earlier while nailing it - I'm glad I did  :wink:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 00:26
Man it looks ugly from the back in that 3rd picture...what VW thinking  :sick:

A little more subtle than the mk6 - must admit, I prefer the mk6 at the back, but then the rest is much better! IMHO
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Jimble on 03 August 2013, 00:36

Wouldn't mind some average MPG figures during varied driving? And before anyone says "if your worried about mpg you should buy a GTD"

JUST DON'T!! Cos i don't buy into all that crap! :)

I wouldn't mind knowing that too Jimble :nerd:

We now know that nailing it gets you around 19 mpg. So lets see the flip side....

200 mile trip coming up on Sunday - I will get some figures from that and while I'm kicking around Saturday.

Planned to switch to eco mode on Sunday for the trip
Saturday - I will do a mix of normal, eco and sport

 :) P.S. I have gone for the GTD and after seeing 19mpg earlier while nailing it - I'm glad I did  ;)


That'd be great mate thanks!  8)
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2013, 08:46

Wouldn't mind some average MPG figures during varied driving? And before anyone says "if your worried about mpg you should buy a GTD"

JUST DON'T!! Cos i don't buy into all that crap! :smiley:

I wouldn't mind knowing that too Jimble :nerd:

We now know that nailing it gets you around 19 mpg. So lets see the flip side....

200 mile trip coming up on Sunday - I will get some figures from that and while I'm kicking around Saturday.

Planned to switch to eco mode on Sunday for the trip
Saturday - I will do a mix of normal, eco and sport

:) P.S. I have gone for the GTD and after seeing 19mpg earlier while nailing it - I'm glad I did  :wink:

If that is a DSG (ssems to be from the very dark pics of the ambient lighting), eco doesn't do much for you apart from facilitate epically slow acceleration back up to whatever speed you set the CC at when something in front had slowed you down via ADC. There is the freewheel/engine braking but I can't see why VW could'nt have incorporated it into every driving mode seeing as it only kicks in when you aren't accelerating!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 12:14
A quick question for you Rik.... How are you finding it to park & manoeuvre into difficult spots? I notice u have the DSG box and was wondering whether by switching between drive & reverse, the 'auto hold' handbrake is activated (thus making manoeuvring clumsy... Hope I'making sense)?

I know its a trivial question but I know its one of those things that will drive me 'Bonkers' in the long term.

Hope you're enjoying the car by the way!!! Very Jel...

(I suppose you could always turn the 'auto hold' off when parking to make things easier, but that would even bug me if I had to do it everytime)

Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RocketRossUK on 03 August 2013, 12:39
Man it looks ugly from the back in that 3rd picture...what VW thinking  :sick:

A little more subtle than the mk6 - must admit, I prefer the mk6 at the back, but then the rest is much better! IMHO

I really hope someone makes a decent aftermarket rear  diffuser, the OEM looks like something off a Fiat Punto and make it look like it has a saggy arse....
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Gryzor on 03 August 2013, 12:51
I really hope someone makes a decent aftermarket rear  diffuser, the OEM looks like something off a Fiat Punto and make it look like it has a saggy arse....

I think the back looks perfectly OK.  The Mk5 that I have has a horrible big black bumber so the Mk7 is a huge step up in terms of looks!  With the sleeker light clusters, I think it looks better than the Mk6.  Opinions vary of course, but I certainly wouldn't go as far as calling the rear of the Mk7 horrible.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2013, 13:11
I really hope someone makes a decent aftermarket rear  diffuser, the OEM looks like something off a Fiat Punto and make it look like it has a saggy arse....

I think the back looks perfectly OK.  The Mk5 that I have has a horrible big black bumber so the Mk7 is a huge step up in terms of looks!  With the sleeker light clusters, I think it looks better than the Mk6.  Opinions vary of course, but I certainly wouldn't go as far as calling the rear of the Mk7 horrible.

And the massively oversized MK6 rear clusters looked like they were straight off a Touareg - those MK7 clusters and crease line are quite an improvement!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 13:29
A quick question for you Rik.... How are you finding it to park & manoeuvre into difficult spots? I notice u have the DSG box and was wondering whether by switching between drive & reverse, the 'auto hold' handbrake is activated (thus making manoeuvring clumsy... Hope I'making sense)?

I know its a trivial question but I know its one of those things that will drive me 'Bonkers' in the long term.

Hope you're enjoying the car by the way!!! Very Jel...

(I suppose you could always turn the 'auto hold' off when parking to make things easier, but that would even bug me if I had to do it everytime)

Do you know - just had a discussion with my mate about 'auto hold' - on the sloping drive I noticed the light wasn't on - and pressing the button does not seem to do anything! almost like its not working, but while out and about I noticed it came on - seems like there may be some spooky programing going on.
What I can say is - on the drive - foot brake on, handbrake off, into reverse, foot brake release and it 'creeps backward' up the drive - so no brake needed - if that makes sense.
I have also notice that moving between drive and reverse - I don't need to use any brake apart from the footbrake.
its difficult to explain - and I'm not sure what's going on myself! :) - but then - I usually drive manuals.

P.S. loving it  :laugh:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 13:30
Man it looks ugly from the back in that 3rd picture...what VW thinking  :sick:

A little more subtle than the mk6 - must admit, I prefer the mk6 at the back, but then the rest is much better! IMHO

I really hope someone makes a decent aftermarket rear  diffuser, the OEM looks like something off a Fiat Punto and make it look like it has a saggy arse....

With the fear of getting flamed - I sort of agree with you there :)
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Gryzor on 03 August 2013, 14:37
And the massively oversized MK6 rear clusters looked like they were straight off a Touareg - those MK7 clusters and crease line are quite an improvement!

Yup, the rear light clusters were the first thing that put me off getting a Mk6  :grin:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Jimble on 03 August 2013, 14:43
And the massively oversized MK6 rear clusters looked like they were straight off a Touareg - those MK7 clusters and crease line are quite an improvement!

Yup, the rear light clusters were the first thing that put me off getting a Mk6  ;D


I hate the original lights that were on my mk6 but the LED's are among the best looking lights on any car anywhere imo! 8)

Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Running Man on 03 August 2013, 17:47
And the massively oversized MK6 rear clusters looked like they were straight off a Touareg - those MK7 clusters and crease line are quite an improvement!

Yup, the rear light clusters were the first thing that put me off getting a Mk6  ;D



I hate the original lights that were on my mk6 but the LED's are among the best looking lights on any car anywhere imo! 8)

Yeh I really like the rear LED's on my mk6, still looks fresh today and better than any other Hot Hatch (GTI 7 aside) rear clusters IMO  :cool:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: matchboy on 03 August 2013, 20:43
This thread  :grin:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: The Doc on 03 August 2013, 22:16
Peace restored - gave me a laugh reading it better than some of the boring drivel I have to mop up...  :whistle:

Have a good weekend all
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 22:29
Eh ?? - just landed - what ?? did I miss something?

Anyways - MPG - for Jimble
GTI set at normal mode but that silly stop / start turned off!
Little bit of town driving and a little dual carriageway = 22mpg
Very gentle drive back, through centre of Derby - mostly 30mph = 28mpg

One thing to note:
This thing turns heads!!!!
While I had it parked on the road outside the house - people in cars where stopping at the side of it to look!
While driving (just, so dark) through the city centre - all the youngsters out on the pi$$ - pointing at it as I went by
So - not inconspicuous  :evil:

I will post some more 'real world' MPG and feedback after tomorrows trip

Rik
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 03 August 2013, 22:39
Eh ?? - just landed - what ?? did I miss something?

Anyways - MPG - for Jimble
GTI set at normal mode but that silly stop / start turned off!
Little bit of town driving and a little dual carriageway = 22mpg
Very gentle drive back, through centre of Derby - mostly 30mph = 28mpg

One thing to note:
This thing turns heads!!!!
While I had it parked on the road outside the house - people in cars where stopping at the side of it to look!
While driving (just, so dark) through the city centre - all the youngsters out on the pi$$ - pointing at it as I went by
So - not inconspicuous  :evil:

I will post some more 'real world' MPG and feedback after tomorrows trip

Rik

NOT liking the the look of those mpg figures :shocked:
AM liking its head turning ability :smiley:

Thx for the report Rik.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 22:53
Eh ?? - just landed - what ?? did I miss something?

Anyways - MPG - for Jimble
GTI set at normal mode but that silly stop / start turned off!
Little bit of town driving and a little dual carriageway = 22mpg
Very gentle drive back, through centre of Derby - mostly 30mph = 28mpg

One thing to note:
This thing turns heads!!!!
While I had it parked on the road outside the house - people in cars where stopping at the side of it to look!
While driving (just, so dark) through the city centre - all the youngsters out on the pi$$ - pointing at it as I went by
So - not inconspicuous  :evil:

I will post some more 'real world' MPG and feedback after tomorrows trip

Rik

NOT liking the the look of those mpg figures :shocked:
AM liking its head turning ability :smiley:

Thx for the report Rik.

To be honest - its only got 4K on the clock, and they usually get a bit better with more miles

But Still !!! EEEk
I have just stuck £50 of unleaded in it, I get the feeling I will be putting more in for my 200 mile trip
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: GolfTi on 03 August 2013, 22:55
Long term mpg after 1500 miles is 36.2, and that includes quite a few blasts.

Mk 6 was 34.1 when I sold it.

The air con has been on constantly though so 38-40 should be normal.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 22:58
Long term mpg after 1500 miles is 36.2, and that includes quite a few blasts.

Mk 6 was 34.1 when I sold it.

The air con has been on constantly though so 38-40 should be normal.

That sounds better - what were you getting when you first got it?
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Post by: GolfTi on 03 August 2013, 23:00
I didn't think to check.....
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 23:07
I didn't think to check.....

If they are anything like the diesels - they take a while to 'loosen up' and start pulling mpg closer to the book figure.
My mates MK7 GT Diesel when he fist got it was doing low 40's - 6000 miles later - its doing close to 60.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: GolfTi on 03 August 2013, 23:07
Stop start by the way is a big improvement from the early days.

It is barely noticeable and totally intuitive, it monitors battery, air con and engine temp.

Intelligent.

Engine temp seems to be several degrees higher than the mk6 and that's taking into account the warm Summer so far.

Edit. Oil temp.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 23:12
Stop start by the way is a big improvement from the early days.

It is barely noticeable and totally intuitive, it monitors battery, air con and engine temp.

Intelligent.

Engine temp seems to be several degrees higher than the mk6 and that's taking into account the warm Summer so far.

The stop / start is more about getting used to it - it does work, it just freaks me out with the DSG - call me old fashioned :)
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2013, 23:14
Saw something interesting on a Mazda 6 advert for their 150PS 2.2 Diesel today, boasting 67mpg economy(comparable to the GTD, but with 34PS less).

They had a prominent arse-covering disclaimer stating that published mpg figures should be used for comparison between car manufacturers only and may not reflect real driving experiences.

With this in mind and frequent postings for poor economy on MK7 Golf on other forums, modest gains over MK6 seem all anyone here can hope for. The official figures for mpg have more to do with reducing CO2 figures than expectations in normal driving. My dad has been disappointed with the mpg (but not the performance) compared to his MK5 170TDI, can't see it being any different for the GTIers.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: GolfTi on 03 August 2013, 23:25
I'd say 10% for a GTI, not quite the 18% VW claim.

Time will tell though, high summer temperatures and a new engine make it difficult to compare.

Actually, I'm not that bothered. The end result of this way of thinking will only go one way - diseasal. :sick:


It's certainly better than the mk 6 though.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2013, 23:30
I didn't think to check.....

If they are anything like the diesels - they take a while to 'loosen up' and start pulling mpg closer to the book figure.
My mates MK7 GT Diesel when he fist got it was doing low 40's - 6000 miles later - its doing close to 60.

Never seen any significant mpg gains in running in my last 6 new VWs, seen power gains though (maybe I make use of that extra power, negating the mpg gains that would've been if I hadn't driven it any harder). With VW also boasting reduced friction surfaces in the new engines and ever improved tolerances, running in gains should be lower than ever. Hope to be proved wrong on that point with my GTD.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 03 August 2013, 23:34
I didn't think to check.....

If they are anything like the diesels - they take a while to 'loosen up' and start pulling mpg closer to the book figure.
My mates MK7 GT Diesel when he fist got it was doing low 40's - 6000 miles later - its doing close to 60.

Never seen any significant mpg gains in running in my last 6 new VWs, seen power gains though (maybe I make use of that extra power, negating the mpg gains that would've been if I hadn't driven it any harder). With VW also boasting reduced friction surfaces in the new engines and ever improved tolerances, running in gains should be lower than ever. Hope to be proved wrong on that point with my GTD.

To be honest mate - if I get between 50 - 60 with the GTD - I'm happy - I get about 50 with my Mk6 GT TDI so its no biggy
However - based on the figures I have got from the GTI - as good as it is - I wouldn't have one!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 August 2013, 23:51
Thanks for the feedback Rik... Some great comments posted. Bet you're gonna be real sad handing back the keys!!!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 04 August 2013, 00:02
Thanks for the feedback Rik... Some great comments posted. Bet you're gonna be real sad handing back the keys!!!

Sad in a way mate  -  its a monster of a car :) - but I have my GTD to look forward to - and hopefully before then a 3 day run in a GTD tester :D
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Post by: Jimble on 04 August 2013, 00:25
Thanks for the info mate! 8)  If my new one can do the same 45mpg on the 150 mile motorway trip that my mk6 does i'll be happy tbh, that is driving like a granny though! :P
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 04 August 2013, 01:14
Thanks for the info mate! 8)  If my new one can do the same 45mpg on the 150 mile motorway trip that my mk6 does i'll be happy tbh, that is driving like a granny though! :P

I will see what I get tomorrow on the long trip buddy - I have a feeling it will be mid 30's to 40 if driven sensibly - which I will do
its a 200 mile round trip - mainly Mway -  with A roads.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: CraigW on 04 August 2013, 10:07
I've only done about 150 miles so far but the average mpg has not been great. So far between 25-28mpg, I'm hoping this is going to improve.

Totally agree with Rik about its head turning abilities. Particularly noticed with others driving Golf's. Some of the expressions on their faces are priceless when they realise what they see coming towards them. Brilliant!!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: hardmonkeys on 04 August 2013, 10:57
Lucky!! I wish i could have a 3 day test drive :-). I reckon I'd be laughed out the door if I even had the balls to ask! Lol
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 04 August 2013, 11:30
I've only done about 150 miles so far but the average mpg has not been great. So far between 25-28mpg, I'm hoping this is going to improve.

Totally agree with Rik about its head turning abilities. Particularly noticed with others driving Golf's. Some of the expressions on their faces are priceless when they realise what they see coming towards them. Brilliant!!

I'm finding the Audi A3 drivers are the ones most interested - one even stopped to look at it parked on the road the other day - then Roared off in racer boy fashion when he saw me heading out !
The other thing is - and the wife told me this - the noise from the outside, which I don't notice while inside - she says it has that 'burble' and 'popping' noise that attracts attention.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: CraigW on 04 August 2013, 11:39
I've only done about 150 miles so far but the average mpg has not been great. So far between 25-28mpg, I'm hoping this is going to improve.

Totally agree with Rik about its head turning abilities. Particularly noticed with others driving Golf's. Some of the expressions on their faces are priceless when they realise what they see coming towards them. Brilliant!!

I'm finding the Audi A3 drivers are the ones most interested - one even stopped to look at it parked on the road the other day - then Roared off in racer boy fashion when he saw me heading out !
The other thing is - and the wife told me this - the noise from the outside, which I don't notice while inside - she says it has that 'burble' and 'popping' noise that attracts attention.

I did wonder about the noise cause I must say I can't hear anything in the cabin. The car sounds epic in all the reviews I've seen but its very quiet to me.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 04 August 2013, 11:39
Just a quick note

Keyless - Loving it, it works very well, wishing I had ordered it now

Its great, keys in pocket and never need to get them out - just walk up to the car, open the door, get in and press the start button.
The funny thing I have noticed is there are all scratches around where the ignition would normally be :)

I wonder if I add to my order - would it delay ??
Mind you, without a confirmed date, and the un-confirmed date moving 3 times - would I even know?

Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Gryzor on 04 August 2013, 12:45
I've ordered keyless and and so glad I did.  However, the first thing I will be checking is the area around where the ignition key would normally go, and if there are any scratches, that'll be high on the snag list.  Ford kinda' got that right with their keyless start (at least on the new Focus) because the key is secured inside the fob itself and cannot flip out.  If you want access to the key, it's a slightly fiddly job to remove it, so no risk of scratches on the ignition cover.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 August 2013, 14:18
I've ordered keyless and and so glad I did.  However, the first thing I will be checking is the area around where the ignition key would normally go, and if there are any scratches, that'll be high on the snag list.  Ford kinda' got that right with their keyless start (at least on the new Focus) because the key is secured inside the fob itself and cannot flip out.  If you want access to the key, it's a slightly fiddly job to remove it, so no risk of scratches on the ignition cover.

My GTD demo last week had a heavily scratched column from people forgetting it was keyless - VW need to make it just a little inconvenient to reveal the key from the fob if you need to unlock the doors manually.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 04 August 2013, 15:13
Just a quick note

Keyless - Loving it, it works very well, wishing I had ordered it now

Rick I urge you to go for the Keyless system (its the only optional extra I've added and something you'll use each and every time you drive the car). It very probably won't add anything to you build time "as long as you're not in confirmed lock-down". But check with your dealer/VW UK CS first!!!

Don't regret anything Rik. Read my stories about switching from a GTD to a GTI  :smiley:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 04 August 2013, 23:11
Just a quick note

Keyless - Loving it, it works very well, wishing I had ordered it now

Rick I urge you to go for the Keyless system (its the only optional extra I've added and something you'll use each and every time you drive the car). It very probably won't add anything to you build time "as long as you're not in confirmed lock-down". But check with your dealer/VW UK CS first!!!

Don't regret anything Rik. Read my stories about switching from a GTD to a GTI  :smiley:

Going to phone in the morning :) see what they say - fingers crossed
Thanks buddy
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: ChrisJL on 04 August 2013, 23:40
Lovin the info rick  :smiley:

How did your long journey go? Anymore real world figures to share?  :smiley:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 04 August 2013, 23:49

Ok - My Last Day with the fleet demo.
Been for long run - from Derby up to East Yorkshire and back
For the figures - the car has done 2800 miles - so may still be 'tight'

So - A38 - M1 - M18 - M62 - A roads to finish - almost bang on 100 mile each way
No stops, a little overtaking on A roads  :evil: and the A roads varied 60, 40, 30 mph mixed

I tested a couple of modes and speeds going up - resetting the counter each time

Motorway - Normal Mode - 80 mph = 34MPG
Motorway - Eco Mode - 85 - 90 mph = 35MPG

Way back - all the way in Normal mode
A roads sticking to 30, 40 where applicable - national limit doing 65 - 70
Motorways - 80mph
Averaged 33MPG

A note on Eco Mode - its weird on the GTI - I have used it on a Diesel and it was OK, but on the GTI it adds some serious Lag to any change of speed, and on the mway, when you let your foot up off the pedal - its cuts fuel and revs drop to about 1000. when you put foot down again, its sort of like going into too low a gear and then recovers itself. Very Odd - didn't like Eco.

This car is fantastic, comfortable, refined, composed, and very quiet inside even on motorway.
Those of you waiting for a GTI are going to love it - and dare I say - its well worth the wait.
Its hard for me to compare my MK6 GT TDI to the GTI on performance and engine, but build quality, ride, comfort and handling are much improved. It feels very composed on the road.
As for it being a GTI - it goes like stink (seriously), and everyone looks at it - it draws attention!

The keyless entry is brilliant - I love it - thought I would hate it, but I now want on mine - Choose it!

Winter pack - nice to have - helped my bad back :)

Discover navigation Pro - Fab :-
Screen fantastic, well thought out menus, cover art comes across, phone contact photos come across.
Music copied to internal SSD - slow copy, but fine once there - 12GB available for use
Navigation - good, it took me the way I would have gone anyways :) - voice clear and says the road and place names correctly (nav devices usually pronounce places wrong) - One note and its weird.... when it says numbers .... instead of for example eighteen - it sort of says it like American - 'ehydeen' if that makes sense - defiantly 'D'een instead of 'T'een.

DynAudio
Just for you guy's I have half deafened myself with a range of music from AC/DC to Vivaldi - and at varying volumes from sublime to down right deafening. All 320kbps MP3
Its very very good :) even at high volume the sound is clear and individual instruments can be picked out clearly (obviously not in the AC/DC LOL).
I'm still not sure I would splash this much cash on it though....... I cannot say its that much better - unless of course you want the big boom boom from the bass, and very high volume.

Apart from filling it up with fuel (which made me cry) :) - I have loved every minute with it and if my GTD is anywhere near as good - I will be a very happy chappie !!  :laugh:

I hope this helps people - and for those of you with outstanding orders, I hope they come quickly for you - you are going to love it

Rik
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Jimble on 04 August 2013, 23:58
Fantastic mate! Really appreciate the write up, 35mpg at 85-90 isn't too bad tbf and if i'm doing my usual driving miss daisy trip up the m6 with the missus aboard at ~70, i reckon i could get close to my "acceptable" 45mpg!? :smiley:

Thanks again mate, all the info is making the wait a little more bearable! :wink:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 05 August 2013, 00:04
Fantastic mate! Really appreciate the write up, 35mpg at 85-90 isn't too bad tbf and if i'm doing my usual driving miss daisy trip up the m6 with the missus aboard at ~70, i reckon i could get close to my "acceptable" 45mpg!? :smiley:

Thanks again mate, all the info is making the wait a little more bearable! :wink:

I recon with a little 'breaking in' and sensible driving 45MPG will be achievable buddy  :wink:

EDIT: Although I will just say that doing 70 is almost impossible in this thing  :evil:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 August 2013, 00:17
I recon with a little 'breaking in' and sensible driving 45MPG will be achievable buddy  :wink:

Great review, really appreciated Rik!  I hope you're right about the mpg.  I honestly would be a bit disappointed if it didn't get to 40, I currently get 38 and not sacrificing economy was part of the draw that lead to me placing an order...

Cheers again.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 05 August 2013, 00:21
I recon with a little 'breaking in' and sensible driving 45MPG will be achievable buddy  :wink:

Great review, really appreciated Rik!  I hope you're right about the mpg.  I honestly would be a bit disappointed if it didn't get to 40, I currently get 38 and not sacrificing economy was part of the draw that lead to me placing an order...

Cheers again.

No problem chaps.
I have been slightly heavy footed - its hard not to  :evil:

P.S. I was running on standard unleaded 95 Ron - where you guys will probably use 97 Ron - I'm just a tight wad  :wink:

Edit: just been out and checked the long term average - I have not reset this and I imagine its 'since birth' so to speak.
Showing 36 MPG
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 August 2013, 00:33
P.S. I was running on standard unleaded 95 Ron - where you guys will probably use 97 Ron - I'm just a tight wad  :wink:

Maybe.

There's been a bit of a debate on that! :tongue:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: RikWebb on 05 August 2013, 00:40
P.S. I was running on standard unleaded 95 Ron - where you guys will probably use 97 Ron - I'm just a tight wad  :wink:

Maybe.

There's been a bit of a debate on that! :tongue:

Well - in my 6 cylinder beemer (with my driving style) - 95Ron lowest mpg =18mpg but 97 lowest was 26mpg
So 4 years ago with my beemer - it made a difference - Was using the Total stuff

With the diesel - the ultimate stuff makes a difference in the wifes Zafira - but non at all in the Golf!

So, it is very subjective, and I suppose it depends on how old the car is and how its tuned
 :smiley:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: drisser on 05 August 2013, 07:48
Rik

thanks for the write up, good to hear how it is to live with the car for a few days.

Hope the fuel economy improves though, I never get less than 28mpg from my 330 ci and easily get 36 on a long run so it should be better than that !

I didnt bloody sleep last night pndering GTi, no M135, no GTi  :undecided:
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: Jimble on 05 August 2013, 08:13
Rik

thanks for the write up, good to hear how it is to live with the car for a few days.

Hope the fuel economy improves though, I never get less than 28mpg from my 330 ci and easily get 36 on a long run so it should be better than that !

I didnt bloody sleep last night pndering GTi, no M135, no GTi  :undecided:

I watched this yesterday and thought to myself i wouldn't mind a bit of that!! :grin:

http://youtu.be/KQrKEiUHGSI
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: drisser on 05 August 2013, 08:22
you are not helping me  :cry:
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Post by: dippy_x on 05 August 2013, 08:33
I know its been said before but - Man - that's one fugly looking motor!
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 August 2013, 08:36
P.S. I was running on standard unleaded 95 Ron - where you guys will probably use 97 Ron - I'm just a tight wad  :wink:

Maybe.

There's been a bit of a debate on that! :tongue:

Well - in my 6 cylinder beemer (with my driving style) - 95Ron lowest mpg =18mpg but 97 lowest was 26mpg
So 4 years ago with my beemer - it made a difference - Was using the Total stuff

With the diesel - the ultimate stuff makes a difference in the wifes Zafira - but non at all in the Golf!

So, it is very subjective, and I suppose it depends on how old the car is and how its tuned
 :smiley:

Rik: The eco mode does seem to frustrate more than it helps. In anything with a DSG it is awful. ADC speed recovery after a slowdown of the traffic ahead is epically slow with the DSG. Heavy footing eco mode because it frustrates is no more economical than setting it up in normal in the first place. You get the freewheeling option in eco with DSG (they could have so easily incorporated it into normal and sport - if you're not accelerating then what difference should it make what mode you are in?). My dad has given up on eco mode on his GTD DSG.

Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: CraigW on 05 August 2013, 10:21
P.S. I was running on standard unleaded 95 Ron - where you guys will probably use 97 Ron - I'm just a tight wad  :wink:

Maybe.

There's been a bit of a debate on that! :tongue:

Well - in my 6 cylinder beemer (with my driving style) - 95Ron lowest mpg =18mpg but 97 lowest was 26mpg
So 4 years ago with my beemer - it made a difference - Was using the Total stuff

With the diesel - the ultimate stuff makes a difference in the wifes Zafira - but non at all in the Golf!

So, it is very subjective, and I suppose it depends on how old the car is and how its tuned
 :smiley:

Rik: The eco mode does seem to frustrate more than it helps. In anything with a DSG it is awful. ADC speed recovery after a slowdown of the traffic ahead is epically slow with the DSG. Heavy footing eco mode because it frustrates is no more economical than setting it up in normal in the first place. You get the freewheeling option in eco with DSG (they could have so easily incorporated it into normal and sport - if you're not accelerating then what difference should it make what mode you are in?). My dad has given up on eco mode on his GTD DSG.

I've not even tried eco mode on mine yet. I've switched from Normal to sport to comfort and have to say i dont notice a great deal of difference. It's the same with the variable ratio steering, it doesn't feel any different to me from a normal setup but then that's just me. My senses arent up to much
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 August 2013, 10:30
I know its been said before but - Man - that's one fugly looking motor!

Wouldn't be so bad if it didn't seem like the car bulges out.  Do you know what I mean?  On the sides and the front its like it gets narrower towards the bottom?!?!
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 August 2013, 10:38
ADC speed recovery after a slowdown of the traffic ahead is epically slow with the DSG. Heavy footing eco mode because it frustrates is no more economical than setting it up in normal in the first place.

No offence but what is the DSG doing wrong this time?  Its "epically slow" because it is maximising economy over speed, which is what you asked it to do.  If you feel the need to put your foot down why did you put it in eco when you actually wanted speed?  If you take it out of eco mode it will give you what you want.

I don't see what the problem is.
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 August 2013, 11:19
ADC speed recovery after a slowdown of the traffic ahead is epically slow with the DSG. Heavy footing eco mode because it frustrates is no more economical than setting it up in normal in the first place.

No offence but what is the DSG doing wrong this time?  Its "epically slow" because it is maximising economy over speed, which is what you asked it to do.  If you feel the need to put your foot down why did you put it in eco when you actually wanted speed?  If you take it out of eco mode it will give you what you want.

I don't see what the problem is.

Just trying to say that eco mode is pretty much a waste of time in a GTI or GTD with DSG, the slow uptake of speed back to predetermined point according to the ADC following the car in front slowing down would be pretty slow even on an 86PS 1.2. Economy dips as soon as you accelerate moderately or hard on most modern engines, it's usually more economical to accelerate hard for a few seconds heavy fuel penalty and then maintain desired cruising speed sooner rather than take 5 x as long with gentle acceleration - this is definitely the case with my current TDI. In either case, if you're using ADC/CC to maintain your speed, you're not driving as economically as you could be. My dad has made a few longish journeys in his GTD now and has found no advantage to having eco on. I do wonder whether there is a bit of placebo going on - stick it in eco and drive like a saint gets you more mpg, but was it your driving style or the car?

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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 August 2013, 11:45
What does eco actually do other than hold off on gear changes?  If you have eco in a manual is it doing anything differently?
Title: Re: My new ride for the weekend !! - Thanks VW Fleet
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 August 2013, 11:50
What does eco actually do other than hold off on gear changes?  If you have eco in a manual is it doing anything differently?

Not sure what ECO does in manual - perhaps alter a few settings by default such as aircon running on lowest output with recycling cooled air etc. I don't think the car has 3 ECU maps.

In DSG mode the car can freewheel to save a tiny amount of fuel when it is not accelerating, can't see why teh other 2 modes couldn't have had this feature too.
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Post by: RikWebb on 05 August 2013, 12:58
P.S. I was running on standard unleaded 95 Ron - where you guys will probably use 97 Ron - I'm just a tight wad  :wink:

Maybe.

There's been a bit of a debate on that! :tongue:

Well - in my 6 cylinder beemer (with my driving style) - 95Ron lowest mpg =18mpg but 97 lowest was 26mpg
So 4 years ago with my beemer - it made a difference - Was using the Total stuff

With the diesel - the ultimate stuff makes a difference in the wifes Zafira - but non at all in the Golf!

So, it is very subjective, and I suppose it depends on how old the car is and how its tuned
 :smiley:

Rik: The eco mode does seem to frustrate more than it helps. In anything with a DSG it is awful. ADC speed recovery after a slowdown of the traffic ahead is epically slow with the DSG. Heavy footing eco mode because it frustrates is no more economical than setting it up in normal in the first place. You get the freewheeling option in eco with DSG (they could have so easily incorporated it into normal and sport - if you're not accelerating then what difference should it make what mode you are in?). My dad has given up on eco mode on his GTD DSG.

No wonder mate - I think I will be giving it a miss.
Interestingly, my mate with the GT - and he is frugal - gives it a miss too :)
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Post by: Valenni on 05 August 2013, 13:03
Don't see the point in ECO mode for a GTI / GTD to be honest.

Get a TDI if you want to watch the pennies.