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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: ROO1 on 10 July 2013, 20:58
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Which dealer? Sounds unreal
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Try drivethedeal
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Which dealership?
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Which dealership?
Drivethedeal put you in touch with a dealership willing to sell to you at their advertised discount, all money finance is done through the dealership. DTD receive a referral payment from the dealership.
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I got £3600 from my dealer. If anyone's interested PM me.
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I got £3600 from my dealer. If anyone's interested PM me.
Did you hold the salesman's kids at gunpoint until you both signed on the dotted line? :laugh: Can't see much margin in the car sale on it's own - must be chasing volume targets for VW UK bonuses.
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I got a similar discount from the same dealer - its amazing what they can do when you walk in with a firm figure
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I got a similar discount from the same dealer - its amazing what they can do when you walk in with a firm figure
I think most of their profit margin is is your extras - always helps the negotiations when there are options-a-plenty involved.
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I got a similar discount from the same dealer - its amazing what they can do when you walk in with a firm figure
I think most of their profit margin is is your extras - always helps the negotiations when there are options-a-plenty involved.
Yep - I think it works out that I basically paid just under list or he car and got all extras free - was amazed as no other dealers i went to were giving any discount apart from reduced gap/paint protection
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I secured £2800 discount from a main dealer, was more than happy with that. £3500 would have been sweater though!
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I managed to get a £3350 discount through drivethedeal, local vw dealer could only offer £1250. Only downside is I've got a 600 mile round trip to collect it, but still well worth it for the discount
Ordered TORNADO RED GTI, PP, DYNAUDIO, KEYLESS & PARK ASSIST
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hi could you let me know which dealer you got the discount with.The best i have got is £1400?
cheers George
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I got £3600 from my dealer. If anyone's interested PM me.
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That's a very good deal I was pleased with my £3508 off, my dealer matched my drivethedeal quote.
Sleg
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That's a very good deal I was pleased with my £3508 off, my dealer matched my drivethedeal quote.
Sleg
It amazes me that dealers are able/willing to give that level of discount considering that demand appears to be far outstripping supply. Brokers, yeah fair enough, they buy in bulk and can get large discounts through economies of scale but different to your average dealer.
I got £2.2k off mine and I thought I was doing well. When I went to collect the car the dealer even told me that after my deal his manager had told him that nobody else was to get a discount any where near what I was given. Perhaps this was bullsh!t of course but ill never know
£3.5k just seems a staggering discount off these cars :shocked: :shocked:
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Think it is also pot luck depending how many that dealer has sold
I found the attitude of more southern dealers around London less willing and with a no discount attitude, I ordered mine from a smaller dealer in Suffolk and am guessing they didn't have loads of gti orders s more willing to negotiate. I got just over 2k off my order plus a good trade in guaranteed for months..
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Think it is also pot luck depending how many that dealer has sold
I found the attitude of more southern dealers around London less willing and with a no discount attitude, I ordered mine from a smaller dealer in Suffolk and am guessing they didn't have loads of gti orders s more willing to negotiate. I got just over 2k off my order plus a good trade in guaranteed for months..
That could be the case Andy but I'm just surprised that you are looking at in some cases 11-13% discount in what is one of VW's flagship cars
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Yep true, but remember we are still talking VW here, not Bentley or Ferrari, at the end of the day it's still mainstream,just like the BMW M135 and several other " prestige" cars..
The dealers have targets at the end of the day and guess with the plate change coming up August is a critical month.
That said, given the waiting list time I agree that it's a little surprising, but perhaps there is some frustration from customers at the long wait and maybe a cancelled order just before September means they are happy to sell 1 car at a bigger discount..
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Despite over £2.5k of options I got mine less than list with paint protection and three years servicing thrown in...... (Equivalent to approx £3.5k discount I'd say)
As others have said go to a few websites like carwow and drivethedeal, get some quotes and then pop down your local and ask them to match. They will probably say no but be patient and they'll come back to you with something close!!
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Big discounts seen here appear to be more accessible on cars with at least £2k of options than on vanilla spec. Is this where the dealers make a lot of their money e.g. there's 15-20% in the car at RRP, but maybe as much as 40-50% in the optional extras, so there is as much profit on a heavily specced car sold at £3k discount as there is on a vanilla model with £1500 discount?
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I tried two dealers for a discount on a GTD with extras in Ballymena and Lisburn, only a couple of hundred pounds was all i could get even with showing the drive the deal discount of £3,606.45.
Anyone know if the dealers at Mallusk and Boucher at open for discount?
Thanks
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Looks like you'll be buying from a broker if you want that level of discount. I would hazard a guess that yourlocal dealers have sold enough at or near to RRP and don't need your business enough to give you £3600 off.
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I'm not expecting that level of discount and made them aware of that but they wouldn't move on it.
Thanks
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I tried two dealers for a discount on a GTD with extras in Ballymena and Lisburn, only a couple of hundred pounds was all i could get even with showing the drive the deal discount of £3,606.45.
Anyone know if the dealers at Mallusk and Boucher at open for discount?
Thanks
Little or no discount across all dealers in NI - that's what made me go to England to save 10%
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Can you point me in the direction?
Thanks
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Since drivethedeal dont deliver to NI do you just have to collect it from somewhere on the mainland? How does that work with registration, can you still get an NI reg?
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You won't need NI reg its part of the uk
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Since drivethedeal dont deliver to NI do you just have to collect it from somewhere on the mainland? How does that work with registration, can you still get an NI reg?
Silver - cant PM You due to low post count about dealer.
You can get an NI reg from your local DVLA office for free and pay £20-30 for plates. Car will registered on GB plates initially.
Don't know how drive the deal work now - haven't used them but they used to deliver to a port and you arranged transport over but that info is now off their site. Pro best to call them to see if it's possible. It's the way all the lease cars from UK agents get over so it must be possible.
I dealt direct with a dealer in mainland when I was over and Ill fly over and drive it back
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Ok thanks hopefully the post count will go up and i'll be able to receive and send PM
Thanks again
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I got a similar discount from the same dealer - its amazing what they can do when you walk in with a firm figure
Could you let me know what dealer you went with? My local dealer wont budge at all!
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Despite over £2.5k of options I got mine less than list with paint protection and three years servicing thrown in...... (Equivalent to approx £3.5k discount I'd say)
As others have said go to a few websites like carwow and drivethedeal, get some quotes and then pop down your local and ask them to match. They will probably say no but be patient and they'll come back to you with something close!!
I'm also in Kent GTI_Jeff, can you tell me which dealer this was with, thanks pal?
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Hi Guys,
Im new to the Forum. I have beeb to test drive a GTD at my local dealer who is insistent they dont need to discount the car as it will sell all day long.
I was wondering what dealer offered you the £3600 discount ?
Thanks
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go through a broker instead and you'll get the lower price to pay. by that premise with the huge discounts offered on gti's did they think they wouldn't sell? sounds like more VW bs!
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Hi Guys,
Im new to the Forum. I have beeb to test drive a GTD at my local dealer who is insistent they dont need to discount the car as it will sell all day long.
I was wondering what dealer offered you the £3600 discount ?
Thanks
Sounds like they are happy to lose a sale if that sale would be at a discount, or maybe they are sizing you up (one of my local dealerships did this to me, so I went elsewhere). Find another dealer that is willing to discount or use a broker - the one you have spoken to has probably used all their allocation for the forseeable, or perhaps if they are a smaller dealership that doesn't get many volume bonuse/discounts to allow then big discounts and still make a worthwhile profit.
You could try one more time with them - give them a price you are willing to accept, give them a phone number and say i'll give you 2 days before looking elsewhere.
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Seems like a reasonable discount is normal as we got £3000 on our order:
3 Door pure white - PP - ACC - keyless - dynaudio - 3yr service plan
Ken
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No Joy guys ... called around 4 more dealers and told they dont need to discount a car that is sold out until next year.
Any help would be brilliant
Thanks
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No Joy guys ... called around 4 more dealers and told they dont need to discount a car that is sold out until next year.
Any help would be brilliant
Thanks
Drive the deal are your best bet. They will get you a large discount and put you in touch with a UK dealer :smiley:
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Thanks will check them out ..
Any dealers in particular that you guys can recommend ?
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Thanks will check them out ..
Any dealers in particular that you guys can recommend ?
I can ask my dealer if you want. I got a 12.5% discount. Tell me the spec you want?
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Well I have a Scirocco GT TDI at the moment so not in a rush for delivery as I know its a 12-16 week wait so I have been told.
Im looking for
GTD 3dr Manual
Pure White
Santiago Alloys
Park Assist
Rear View Camera
Colour Multi-Function Display
Discover Nav Pro
DynaAudio
Winter Pack
Service Plan
CobraTrack Plus
Thanks
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12-16 weeks seems very optimistic, I'd say 24 weeks.
Broadspeed is a web based firm specialising in discounted new cars ,they offer about £2300 off list.
Seriously though, don't bank on the car arriving in less than six months, good luck.
Www.broadspeed.com
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Well I have a Scirocco GT TDI at the moment so not in a rush for delivery as I know its a 12-16 week wait so I have been told.
Im looking for
GTD 3dr Manual
Pure White
Santiago Alloys
Park Assist
Rear View Camera
Colour Multi-Function Display
Discover Nav Pro
DynaAudio
Winter Pack
Service Plan
CobraTrack Plus
Thanks
Colour MFD is standard though it us still listed as an option. Rear View camera is no longer available to spec.
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If you can let me know of any dealers that would be brilliant, in the meantime I will check out the brokers but prefer to speak directly to dealers as I had read about some horror stores about brokers.
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If you can let me know of any dealers that would be brilliant, in the meantime I will check out the brokers but prefer to speak directly to dealers as I had read about some horror stores about brokers.
As said above mate the broker will put you in direct contact with the dealer :smiley:
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I can ask my dealer if you want. I got a 12.5% discount. Tell me the spec you want?
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That would be brilliant mate
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If you can let me know of any dealers that would be brilliant, in the meantime I will check out the brokers but prefer to speak directly to dealers as I had read about some horror stores about brokers.
What horror stories have you read?
Jumping ship already? Thought you were happy with the Scirocco?
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I can ask my dealer if you want. I got a 12.5% discount. Tell me the spec you want?
I'm also having problems with my dealer offering discount... Any chance you could help me out?
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If they just won't budge you gotta go to a broker.
I used carbuzz though I always struggle to find their website as they seem to share their name with a review site or something... can't find it at all right now, so perhaps they've died off.
Anyway, the broker will put you in touch with a dealer who will give you a discount. You take it or leave it. From that moment on you are identical in all respects to a customer who didn't use the broker. I don't think using this route is anything to worry about at all.
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If they just won't budge you gotta go to a broker.
I used carbuzz though I always struggle to find their website as they seem to share their name with a review site or something... can't find it at all right now, so perhaps they've died off.
Anyway, the broker will put you in touch with a dealer who will give you a discount. You take it or leave it. From that moment on you are identical in all respects to a customer who didn't use the broker. I don't think using this route is anything to worry about at all.
I would go to a broker, but I have a trade in.
Would rather go straight to a dealer and get a descent price!
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If they just won't budge you gotta go to a broker.
I used carbuzz though I always struggle to find their website as they seem to share their name with a review site or something... can't find it at all right now, so perhaps they've died off.
Anyway, the broker will put you in touch with a dealer who will give you a discount. You take it or leave it. From that moment on you are identical in all respects to a customer who didn't use the broker. I don't think using this route is anything to worry about at all.
I would go to a broker, but I have a trade in.
Would rather go straight to a dealer and get a descent price!
Stuart, you could try Arnold Clark on crow rd in Glasgow. They helped me
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I would go to a broker, but I have a trade in.
Would rather go straight to a dealer and get a descent price!
I also have a trade in. Once the broker hands you to the dealer everything proceeds as normal, at which point you tell them you have a trade in and they value it over the phone (so be honest on the severity of scrapes or alloy damage). If they are local to you then you can get an in person valuation.
You're under no obligation to take any deal so why not go the broker route while continuing your search on your own? Win win.
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Drive the deal were very easy to deal with, one phone call to confirm the spec I wanted, paid 1k deposit then straight in touch with vw dealer, no more contact with DTD, only down side for me is the dealer they found for me is in Kent and I'm in Cornwall, but worth it for the £3350 discount.
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It's quite simple the new head of UK sales for VW has come from Renault. He's a target driven man i.e. sell cars hit targets or you dealers can forget all the bonuses, now it's always been like that but his targets mean that on average a dealer has to sell almost 50% more cars per month to hit the bonus than they did this time last year. One month earlier in the year I know of one dealer who to hit his quarterly bonus had to pre register 35 cars and its not a large dealership!
This overtime will undoubted assist VW in becoming the largest car seller in the world as is there aim by i think 2018. But in the long term unless you can secure a significant discount on purchase your chasing a looser with regards residual value, something we have all probably considered good when buying from VAG.
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I can ask my dealer if you want. I got a 12.5% discount. Tell me the spec you want?
That would be brilliant mate
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No worries, been quoted 20-22 weeks. I tried to PM you but no joy. I think you don't have enough posts to receive personal messages. Maybe you need to post 10 times?
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It's quite simple the new head of UK sales for VW has come from Renault. He's a target driven man i.e. sell cars hit targets or you dealers can forget all the bonuses, now it's always been like that but his targets mean that on average a dealer has to sell almost 50% more cars per month to hit the bonus than they did this time last year. One month earlier in the year I know of one dealer who to hit his quarterly bonus had to pre register 35 cars and its not a large dealership!
This overtime will undoubted assist VW in becoming the largest car seller in the world as is there aim by i think 2018. But in the long term unless you can secure a significant discount on purchase your chasing a looser with regards residual value, something we have all probably considered good when buying from VAG.
Residuals for GTI/GTD will remain high for as long as they limit allocation and demand exceeds supply. VW must be very confident right now on GTI/GTD residuals, considering the GFV they are committing themselves to. Standard Golf residuals (based on GFV) seem to be weakening a bit though, with a TDI GT/SE typically at 47% GFV and 45% for the 1.4TSI ACT. They always used to be about 50% - still well above Alfa, Ford, Vauxhall, Renault etc and comparable with most BMW 1 series.
Going the broker route is fine, you’ll get a great discount on the new car – just be prepared to get a low p/x price which partially cuts into your headline discount. The dealer is there to make money, and they’re not going to give you an amazing deal on the new one as well as top tier Parkers valuation on your p/x – especially if it’s not a VAG car. Expect the stated discount and WBAC website price for an accurate description of the car’s condition and you’ll be about right. WBAC valuation on my Scirocco is around £1000 less than the dealership gave me in p/x. With that in mind, if your local dealership can give you a good p/x price and £2000-2500 off the new car then the “cost to change” is probably the same as the broker route. Discounts seen here seem far more willingly given on cars with a good few grand’s worth of optional equipment, I expect that profit margin is much higher on the options list than the standard car. If you’re talking residuals, options are pretty much dead money at trade in – For leather, Nav, Sunroof, PP you’ll probably see about 20-30% back of your money spent, but almost nowt for anything else (compared a few specs at my dealership and made note of the resultant GFVs).
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If they just won't budge you gotta go to a broker.
I used carbuzz though I always struggle to find their website as they seem to share their name with a review site or something... can't find it at all right now, so perhaps they've died off.
Anyway, the broker will put you in touch with a dealer who will give you a discount. You take it or leave it. From that moment on you are identical in all respects to a customer who didn't use the broker. I don't think using this route is anything to worry about at all.
I would go to a broker, but I have a trade in.
Would rather go straight to a dealer and get a descent price!
Stuart, you could try Arnold Clark on crow rd in Glasgow. They helped me
Will give them a phone, worth a shot!
Anyone else with any recommendations?
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I sent VW Germany an email saying i was going to order a GTD but wasn't happy with the supply times, here's the reply.
Thank you for your e-mail addressed to our management board and for sharing your thoughts with us.
We are pleased to learn that you are interested in the purchase of a Volkswagen Golf MKVII GTD.
We kindly inform you that, due to the success of the new model range, there has been a considerable increase in the demand for our vehicles. As it is not our policy to accelerate production at the expense of care and quality of our products, an increase of delivery times could not be completely avoided.
Please be assured, however, that we do our best to comply with the wishes of our customers as quickly as possible.
Do not hesitate to contact our local representative directly in case you have further questions.
Yours sincerely,
i.V. Holger Andres i. A. Benjamin Stuellenberg
Volkswagen AG
38436 Wolfsburg
Fax +49 (0) 1805 329865*
Mail to customercare@volkswagen.com
Homepage http://www.volkswagen.com
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Nah I love the Scirocco but had a GTD for an extended test drive and loved it ... Plus I have always wanted a GTI/GTD.
I did wonder why I couldnt PM
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Nah I love the Scirocco but had a GTD for an extended test drive and loved it ... Plus I have always wanted a GTI/GTD.
I did wonder why I couldnt PM
Need 10 posts to PM, one more and yer in!! ;)
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Done :grin:
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Woohoo!!! :D
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Nah I love the Scirocco but had a GTD for an extended test drive and loved it ... Plus I have always wanted a GTI/GTD.
I did wonder why I couldnt PM
Excellent getting an extended test drive.
I take it your mate doesn't work in VW any more hence why you can't get a discount?
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Nope that one has gone to work for BMW
Another of my friends now works for a VW dealer but he is useless, ha. I asked him 2 weeks ago to put me in touch with someone in his dealer who would look after me, I heard nothing so took the initiative to speak to them myself and name drop him and they 'reluctantly' offered me a £1k discount but no PX. lol