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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: bbewekim on 09 July 2013, 22:50
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Hey guys, in a bit of a predicament... Love the GTD, interiors bang on and its a great engine.
But... Can get GT's with much better spec and less mileage for the same price.
Ideal world would be RNS510, parking sensors and cruise on an affordable GTD but there just aren't any with less than 70k on the clocks. Whereas you can get GT's with about 40k.
Been offered a mint GTD with 60k 59 plate for £12,000 but after retrofitting itl come to quite a bit extra... Or I can get a GT with all the trimmings.
I know through a dealership the GTD would be easily £13,995 as it is in better condition that others I've seen in dealerships... But 12k for a car with basic kit is alot (forget the fact its a VW).
What's the general consensus? Drawbacks to me of the GT are seats, air con and steering wheel IMO...
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GTD all day long....you will regret not getting it when you drive past one.
Im not a big fan of diesels but if you have to go down that route then at least make it half cool.
The GT looks a bit boring, and no one will be impressed, not even yourself. If you get the GTD you will be happy straight away and save up and add the rest later.
Quick remap and you will be running a cool 200BHP :shocked:
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Thanks for the quick reply, I had a mk6 GTI for a few days last year I think that's what made me love the interior I guess. The petrol is definitely quicker, but the Gtd definitely has a big kick... As you say revo quote petrol GTI power from the gtd with a stage one.
I'm slowly selling it to myself lol...
I have a mk4 AGU with anny wheels to sell to pay for the retrofit stuff....
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I always try the highest model in the range when buying a car, as otherwise every time you see the better model when driving yours you get that pang of what you should have bought.
Thankfully ed35's and .:R's are rare as hens teeth round my way :whistle:
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I bought a GT as back then, the GTD was still a bit new and used prices were commanding a much higher premium. It was for my wifes birthday, so I thought that the GT would do. If it would have been for me, I would have saved up a little longer and got the GTD.
The GT does look very ordinary, however when it is super shiney with it's Vancouvers sparkling, it does stand out a bit more, but not like a GTD would. Swapping for a touch screen radio helps to lift the dash board, but the standard air con knobs look a little basic.
Unless you can find a very well speced GT, I'd go for a GTD. All the the extras you would like can be retro fitted, so they can all come in good time as funds allow.
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I say go for the GTD otherwise you will see it and want it later!
I would also consider a GTI as well, you might find one at a better price to the GTD.
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GTD all the way, my mate has a GT and its very dull in comparison to my GTD.
Mine will be for sale soon when I get a date on the MK7 GTI, let me know if interested...
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I think it really depends what you want and what your personal tastes are. For me i actually prefer the look of the GT with some 18inch Vancouvers but i do prefer the understated look. I found the GTD looking a little too much like its got bits stuck on if that makes sence?
Having drove both the GTD did not 'feel' that much quicker than the GT but the biggest factor has to be price! I know When i bought my GT I was also looking at similar GTD age/mileage but there was a £4k difference in price! Thats the bit I just cant understand particulalrly because at least the GT had 18inch vancouvers, RCD 500, Bluetooth, Front+Rear Park sensor, Cruise Control. The GTD had none of these, as a person who like there toys on a car I just could not justify the price difference for a car that has a spec thats not as good?
Conclusion: For me at least I would rather a higher specced GT than a low speced GTD
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£4k is a pretty big difference and with a remap you can get the GT to GTD performance levels.
But the GT looks too much like a normal Golf for me, even with 18's, whereas the GTD looks like a sporty diesel and the interior has those finishing touches that take it that step above.
Plus a remap takes it to near GTI performance figures which is a selling point.
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£4k is a pretty big difference and with a remap you can get the GT to GTD performance levels.
But the GT looks too much like a normal Golf for me, even with 18's, whereas the GTD looks like a sporty diesel and the interior has those finishing touches that take it that step above.
Plus a remap takes it to near GTI performance figures which is a selling point.
In leather yes.... but not liking those fabric seats at all!
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Although mine is leather, I think VW leather in general is a bit overrated and not particularly hard wearing.
I do like the standard fabric on both GTI & GTD but I know a few people who think it isn't befitting of a pseudo premium car...
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I always try the highest model in the range when buying a car, as otherwise every time you see the better model when driving yours you get that pang of what you should have bought.
Thankfully ed35's and .:R's are rare as hens teeth round my way :whistle:
This. If you already love the GTD, then get it as you'll wish you had later on. GT is nice but a little dull by comparision, GTD stands out more from the crowd. If the GTD has been well looked after and serviced properly, is the higher mileage really such an issue.
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I always try the highest model in the range when buying a car, as otherwise every time you see the better model when driving yours you get that pang of what you should have bought.
Thankfully ed35's and .:R's are rare as hens teeth round my way :whistle:
This. If you already love the GTD, then get it as you'll wish you had later on. GT is nice but a little dull by comparision, GTD stands out more from the crowd. If the GTD has been well looked after and serviced properly, is the higher mileage really such an issue.
IMHO the biggest issue for me here is price.... The GTD just does not excite me enough for the prices it commands. Not taking anything away from the car at all, but i just cant understand it when compared directly to the GT both in terms of price and spec! (Not sure why but the GTD's are often speced quite poorley i find i.e. no cruise control etc). I have had my GT for a year now and never really felt as if I have wished I had bought a GTD.
Infact i remember on one occasion I parked next to chap in a silver base model GTD with the 17inch alloys and definatly felt mine looked more classy. I appreciate there may be some bias in this but the little touches like the Graphite Blue pearl paint work, 18 inch vancouvers, yeti tips on my GT left me with smile on my face seeing it parked next to the silver GTD
I do think the GTD is a very nice car, but for the money I think I would rather have A4 S Line or a 3 Series M Sport.
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I always try the highest model in the range when buying a car, as otherwise every time you see the better model when driving yours you get that pang of what you should have bought.
Thankfully ed35's and .:R's are rare as hens teeth round my way :whistle:
This. If you already love the GTD, then get it as you'll wish you had later on. GT is nice but a little dull by comparision, GTD stands out more from the crowd. If the GTD has been well looked after and serviced properly, is the higher mileage really such an issue.
IMHO the biggest issue for me here is price.... The GTD just does not excite me enough for the prices it commands. Not taking anything away from the car at all, but i just cant understand it when compared directly to the GT both in terms of price and spec! (Not sure why but the GTD's are often speced quite poorley i find i.e. no cruise control etc). I have had my GT for a year now and never really felt as if I have wished I had bought a GTD.
Infact i remember on one occasion I parked next to chap in a silver base model GTD with the 17inch alloys and definatly felt mine looked more classy. I appreciate there may be some bias in this but the little touches like the Graphite Blue pearl paint work, 18 inch vancouvers, yeti tips on my GT left me with smile on my face seeing it parked next to the silver GTD
I do think the GTD is a very nice car, but for the money I think I would rather have A4 S Line or a 3 Series M Sport.
The reason my previous car ended up being a Leon FR was price, I got GTD spec ( and then some) for the price of a GT, was a no brainer and the car was great :cool:
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i currently own a gt which has more spec than my mates gtd, his gtd isnt any quicker, they seem very similair in performance,
ive added a few bits to my car to enhance it :wink: and am told it looks more desirable to my mates :smiley: if like me you have a budget, then go with a gt, i just feel that the difference to me wasnt worth all the extra cost. just my opinion matey, you have to go with the car you feel is right for you.
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Thanks for all the replies, its a tough one, there's a GTD with 45k and toys for £10,000 but its a 4 hour travel...
Looks great (it has 17s though), only drawback is its a completely different value so the amount of loan ill be taking would be less... Leaving issues if I arrived and it was a dud.
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i currently own a gt which has more spec than my mates gtd, his gtd isnt any quicker, they seem very similair in performance,
ive added a few bits to my car to enhance it :wink: and am told it looks more desirable to my mates :smiley: if like me you have a budget, then go with a gt, i just feel that the difference to me wasnt worth all the extra cost. just my opinion matey, you have to go with the car you feel is right for you.
This ^^^^
There are some very nice GTD's out there just IMO they are not far enough away from the GT to warrant the extra £££'s
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Thanks for all the replies, its a tough one, there's a GTD with 45k and toys for £10,000 but its a 4 hour travel...
Looks great (it has 17s though), only drawback is its a completely different value so the amount of loan ill be taking would be less... Leaving issues if I arrived and it was a dud.
That sounds too cheap TBH mate, tred carefully a lot of scammers out there
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Think people seem to have the blinkers on here when comparing GT to GTD...
Base GTD v base GT is no contest, 30bhp for a start is noticeable from the off, plus the exhaust looks cheap as hell on the GT.
Fair enough you may get a few with higher spec for decent money, but they will depreciate more and be less desirable further down the line.
If you cant justify a GTI for whatever reason, buy the GTD and you wont regret it...
If I would have settled for a GT I know I would always be annoyed seeing a GTD driving past.
Good shout on the Leon FR though, I tested one prior to GTD and they are as good in all but interior finish, but loads cheaper!!
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Thanks for all the replies, its a tough one, there's a GTD with 45k and toys for £10,000 but its a 4 hour travel...
Looks great (it has 17s though), only drawback is its a completely different value so the amount of loan ill be taking would be less... Leaving issues if I arrived and it was a dud.
Don't rule out because you have to travel.
Wheels are easily changed.
If you want a bit more security buy from a used car dealer and check the warranty terms. You can then take it to a garage, have it checked/scanned and then get the garage you bought it from to pay up for any problems :tongue:.
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I have to admit the GTD in the looks department I think looks better than the GT, the performance is better in standard form, obviously you get climate standard in the GT late 2010 onwards is LED lights. I would say a GTD for 10k with 45k on the clock has something wrong with it. The 60k for 12K sounds like a correct price I got offered £12,750 for mine in september by VW with approx 70k on the clock on a 2010 April. I have 57K on the clock and it still trucks along like it was new no issues at all. Just look for full VW.
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Thanks guys, its a tough call! The car sold for the 10k.
I offered 11,750 for the other but was refused, think I'm best to leave it for now, and see what comes up?
Just typical the mk4 is playing up for the first time in years and I'm going away next week so a new car would be ideal!
Was thinking 11,750 would put me in a good position to buy a 510 head unit or parking sensors.
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If they didn't take £11,750 did they come back with a counter offer?
Don't lose the car for what, in hindsight, will turn out to be a few £s. You can wait anothe month or two to upgrade the head unit etc.
PS GTD for me but am biased!!
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If I want it itl be £12,000 with 3/4 tank of fuel. MOT N TAX due in October, oh how bartering for cars has changed... Not even dealerships will budge on golfs.
I will potentially be doing 15k a year do thinking 60 to start with is on the higher side.
It has the Bluetooth add on that clips on the dash, optional 18s.
Here's a Q does anyone else knock there hand against the centre console putting it in 3rd or 5th? I remember it was a niggle on the mk6 GTI... Guess you just change your hand position lol.
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plus the exhaust looks cheap as hell on the GT.
£24 for a pair of Skoda Yeti tips fixes that.
It has the Bluetooth add on that clips on the dash,
That's easy to remove and replace with a factory type integrated one.
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I have to admit the GTD in the looks department I think looks better than the GT, the performance is better in standard form, obviously you get climate standard in the GT late 2010 onwards is LED lights. I would say a GTD for 10k with 45k on the clock has something wrong with it. The 60k for 12K sounds like a correct price I got offered £12,750 for mine in september by VW with approx 70k on the clock on a 2010 April. I have 57K on the clock and it still trucks along like it was new no issues at all. Just look for full VW.
Yes at that price it seems a little suspect.
OP - Buy on condition not mileage where possible, 60k is nothing to be worried about.
At 15k a year you may want to consider a GTI if you can source one for a bit less than a GTD.
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I took the plunge!
Collect the GTD Saturday!!
Now after 5 years of putting off getting a genuine VCDS cable/software noes the time. Never thought I'd use it for the cost but this will be the 4th or 5th car between me and the mrs to get the money out of it.
Any recommendations for Uk purchasing?
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I took the plunge!
Collect the GTD Saturday!!
Now after 5 years of putting off getting a genuine VCDS cable/software noes the time. Never thought I'd use it for the cost but this will be the 4th or 5th car between me and the mrs to get the money out of it.
Any recommendations for Uk purchasing?
Congrats on the GTD, don't think you'll have any regrets :cool: Post up some pics when you get it.
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Congrats - good decision and will give you lots more options and fun
What's the full run down on the spec?
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Its metalic grey, so something a little different. Has the upgraded 18s and VW Bluetooth, not sure if it has any packs on it, has the holdle for sunglasses in the roof lining and the bottle opener... The bodywork is mint though, has less marks on ones that I've seen with low mileage. No scratches on the rear bumper etc.
My plan is to upgrade it with money I get from my mk4 so if anyone's looking for one? Lol.
RNS 510, either rear parking camera or front and rear optical sensors, and cruise control.
Not sure whether to do the parking sensors myself and save some ££ my local VW specialists want 360 plus vat for OEM.
I need to buy VCDS as I said I would years ago and just used the cheap eBay cables, but ill get my money's worth now.
At some point I may stick a stage one map on, as I've always had mapped VWs, but plenty of kick in this car, especially when you've come from an 1.8t AGU with a stage one, not much in it.
Ill put up some pics at some point, its a pretty standard model, but I was looking at £14,000 for the same car without Bluetooth and poor bodywork... So all in all its a good deal.
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Congrats on the GTD. I am currently looking to get a GTD but was wondering if it would be a good idea to wait till the end of August or start of September to buy? I know the new plates are out in september and so would this make a difference to older 10 or 61 plate cars?
Also any tips on where i should be looking as the price you are talking about is better than anything i can see on autotrader (im a novice)
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Its a good point regarding the plates but my experience with VW is people will pay for the car not the age/miles. Unlike on a ford where a plate change would knock a large figure off.
I'm not sure if im allowed to post other places on here?
The usual, auto trader, ebay classifieds, pistonheads, motors and of course forums :).
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I need to buy VCDS as I said I would years ago and just used the cheap eBay cables, but ill get my money's worth now.
VCDS (http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/index.html) is the best tool you will ever buy for a VAG vehicle don't bother with the cheap Chinese clones of fleabay.
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Personally I would not bother with parking sensors if you plan to retrofit a rear view camera, its much better
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Hey, heres a photo:
Excuse the rush & iphone quality though.
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/bbewekim/newcar_zps057acb34.jpg)
Its a real pleasure to drive, and do not doubt for a minute about getting it over a GT. From power to interior comfort it wins all round.
The PLAN for the time being is
VCDS (if anyone is selling their old one)
RNS 510 headunit.
Quick refurb on the lips of the front alloys as theres a couple of marks.
Rear camera etc will come later if i bother.
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Looks good, check to see if you have any extra packs, check for heated seat symbols on the heater knobs, check for folding mirrors on the wing mirror adjustment knob by looking for a logo at 3o Clock. Tyre pressure monitoring by the switch in the glove box next to the turn off airbags.
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Very nice. :cool:
My mate is taking the RNS510 out of his 2012 GTD in the next month or so when his new car arrives. :wink:
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That looks great, has the best oem wheel option IMO too :cool: