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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Hobojim on 30 June 2013, 11:45
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Anyone going to get a tracker/remote immobiliser fitted? Just noticed as an option when searching for insurance.
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I was actually thinking about getting one of these:
http://back2you.com/ (http://back2you.com/)
I don't think it would be recognised by my insurance company but would give a bit of peace of mind.
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trackers are easy to block the signal so a waste of cash if you ask me a decent alarm would be better :smiley:
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What's the standard factory alarm like in the GTI? Does it offer much protection over the immobiliser?
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What's the standard factory alarm like in the GTI? Does it offer much protection over the immobiliser?
they shouldnt be able to get the car without the key :smiley:
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I was actually thinking about getting one of these:
http://back2you.com/ (http://back2you.com/)
I don't think it would be recognised by my insurance company but would give a bit of peace of mind.
I have something similar on my GTIs but wired in rather than battery. More for peace of mind. Most theifs will pinch a car and then park it up in a street sonewere for a few hours to see if the police find it. If not then it will be recollect it and disappear forever.
I also have pentagon safety glass on one of them.
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I was actually thinking about getting one of these:
http://back2you.com/ (http://back2you.com/)
I don't think it would be recognised by my insurance company but would give a bit of peace of mind.
I have something similar on my GTIs but wired in rather than battery. More for peace of mind. Most theifs will pinch a car and then park it up in a street sonewere for a few hours to see if the police find it. If not then it will be recollect it and disappear forever.
I also have pentagon safety glass on one of them.
I like the fact that it can be taken out, i thought about just doing the phone thing but it's keeping it charged and not great support, i like the fact you can check it via an app too.
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at the end of the day if someone wants your car they will take your car by any means. what do you pay insurance for?
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at the end of the day if someone wants your car they will take your car by any means. what do you pay insurance for?
This is true but wouldn't you like the police to catch whoever steals it??
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why? so they can have a slap on the wrist and pay you £20 victim charge. the police wouldn't catch them anyway they never do.
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I'm gonna wire the steering wheel up to the battery on mine so that if you don't flick a switch when you get in 10miles down the road you'll be getting a little shock! :evil:
J/K of course... :laugh:
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why? so they can have a slap on the wrist and pay you £20 victim charge. the police wouldn't catch them anyway they never do.
this is true :angry:
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why? so they can have a slap on the wrist and pay you £20 victim charge. the police wouldn't catch them anyway they never do.
They'll always get away with it then if everyone had that attitude, when you know where your car is, call the police and tell them your going slit their throat when you catch them, they'll soon turn up!
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If my car was ever stolen I wouldn't want it back.
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why? so they can have a slap on the wrist and pay you £20 victim charge. the police wouldn't catch them anyway they never do.
They'll always get away with it then if everyone had that attitude, when you know where your car is, call the police and tell them your going slit their throat when you catch them, they'll soon turn up!
then you end up being the 1 getting charged by pc plod :wink: but i think we would all feel the same as you an want to do that
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I wouldn't want mine back if it's been stolen and yes I would want to run the thieving scum over and then again just to make sure haha car theft along with a host of other crimes are not really a priority any more for the police. sad but true.
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If my car was ever stolen I wouldn't want it back.
I wouldn't want mine back if it's been stolen and yes I would want to run the thieving scum over and then again just to make sure haha car theft along with a host of other crimes are not really a priority any more for the police. sad but true.
Aye, a few years ago a mate of mine parked up at home after work and left his keys in the door, which also had his car key on as well. He went upstairs, heard car doors slamming, an engine start, and a car wheelspin off... After getting that sinking feeling, he shot downstairs only to see his car in the distance. "Unfortunately" he got his car back, complete with petty internal damage and a trashed alloy, but he cut his losses, made good what he could, and traded for a new one because he couldn't stand driving it.
I always keep my car key separate from my house keys for that very reason.
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I am not planning a tracker but will be buying GAP insurance. Confused.com gave me fully comprehensive insurance quotes for the GTI starting at around £190 (yes I really have that boring a job, location and driving history but its CHEAP !).
If some scumbag nicks the GTI then I don't want it back thrashed, trashed and crashed thanks very much. I would prefer it written off and a shiny new one some months later thanks to the car insurance plus GAP.
A friend of mine swears by it, having had the experience of a house burglary to nick the keys to his Merc and he got paid in full. When the Police rolled up 4 months later to say we have your car (although it's in a bit of state), he simply pointed at his new Merc and said "tell the insurance company you have the old one - it's their problem now" :smug:
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why? so they can have a slap on the wrist and pay you £20 victim charge. the police wouldn't catch them anyway they never do.
They'll always get away with it then if everyone had that attitude, when you know where your car is, call the police and tell them your going slit their throat when you catch them, they'll soon turn up!
With you Jim, until people say enough is enough rather than following the system nothing will enter change in UK LTD.
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What's the standard factory alarm like in the GTI? Does it offer much protection over the immobiliser?
It's a thatcham category 1 set-up. It's as good as the insurance company would want you to have to reduce risk of theft on this car relative to it's worth. You'd want a better system on your Lambo!
Anyone who wants to pinch a car now will find it far easier to break into your house for the keys, generally.
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Police rarely give a sh!t if there is an insurance company willing to pay out - they're more of a provider of crime numbers now. They could try harder to catch criminals (fingerprints etc), sometimes they know exactly who's door to knock on when a certain crime happens in a certain area, but until one of these soft judges has his own car stolen or his house burgled then they usually just hand out suspended sentences.
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monkeyhanger is right - these days they will just break into your house to get the keys. I seem to remember there were a few mk6 GTIs nicked this way when they came out.
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monkeyhanger is right - these days they will just break into your house to get the keys. I seem to remember there were a few mk6 GTIs nicked this way when they came out.
With that in mind, your car theft deterrent should be a big scary dog in your house that'll bite a chunk or 2 out of any would be car key burglar.
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Yep, a dog is the best deterrent. Even one that doesn't bite - the barking will be enough.
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I have a big scary cat. He will bite a few chunks out of you. No kidding, the little git is vicious. He barks at flies too... :undecided: Strange creature.
Anyway, best thing to do is put the car away in a garage. Personally I'd love to prepare some nice "surprises" for anyone braking into my house. Connecting my keys to a power socket for instance... Apparently this is frowned upon though. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me though. Pick any house you care to and I'll bet there are half a dozen life threatening situations you'd be greeted with if you were rushing into it in the dark and not being the owner don't know the place. Odds are good you'll at least brake a leg, unless you are a "professional" at running into other peoples houses in the dark. :evil:
Its unreasonable to expect people to keep their houses safe for strangers running in at the middle of the night. Therefore, where is the difference between having a knife rack fall off the wall and kill you, or falling into the open cellar, or slipping on that dodgy door mat... and grabbing a car key connected to 240V? The only difference I can see is that its hard to see why someone would legitimately wire a key to 240V, but last I checked no law says everything I do in my house has to be considered "legitimate" by Joe Bloggs public. Its perfectly safe because everyone who might legally be in the house and taking the key is aware of the hazard. In my opinion once you've bust into my house you've left all your rights outside the door and whatever happens to you is your fault.
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I have a big scary cat. He will bite a few chunks out of you. No kidding, the little git is vicious. He barks at flies too... :undecided: Strange creature.
Anyway, best thing to do is put the car away in a garage. Personally I'd love to prepare some nice "surprises" for anyone braking into my house. Connecting my keys to a power socket for instance... Apparently this is frowned upon though. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me though. Pick any house you care to and I'll bet there are half a dozen life threatening situations you'd be greeted with if you were rushing into it in the dark and not being the owner don't know the place. Odds are good you'll at least brake a leg, unless you are a "professional" at running into other peoples houses in the dark. :evil:
Its unreasonable to expect people to keep their houses safe for strangers running in at the middle of the night. Therefore, where is the difference between having a knife rack fall off the wall and kill you, or falling into the open cellar, or slipping on that dodgy door mat... and grabbing a car key connected to 240V? The only difference I can see is that its hard to see why someone would legitimately wire a key to 240V, but last I checked no law says everything I do in my house has to be considered "legitimate" by Joe Bloggs public. Its perfectly safe because everyone who might legally be in the house and taking the key is aware of the hazard. In my opinion once you've bust into my house you've left all your rights outside the door and whatever happens to you is your fault.
My great uncle's best mate wired his garage door handle to 4 large car batteries when he went on holiday years ago and a burglar got some horrific hand burns as the DC nature of the battery clamped the blokes hand onto the door handle. He was taken to court and got a suspended sentence. The judge was very sympathetic as to the measures "hobbley bobbley" (he has 1 leg 2" longer than the other) had taken to protect his house whilst on holiday.
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My great uncle's best mate wired his garage door handle to 4 large car batteries when he went on holiday years ago and a burglar got some horrific hand burns as the DC nature of the battery clamped the blokes hand onto the door handle. He was taken to court and got a suspended sentence. The judge was very sympathetic as to the measures "hobbley bobbley" (he has 1 leg 2" longer than the other) had taken to protect his house whilst on holiday.
No sympathy for the theif here. However, I wouldn't want to do something that creates a health hazard. If a local kid kicked his football onto my drive, then when retrieving it he touches the garage door handle... well, for that I think it is my fault! No kid is going to accidentally wander into my locked house in the dead of the night and try to take my car keys though. But this is all hypothetical so... meh.
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No sympathy for the theif here. However, I wouldn't want to do something that creates a health hazard. If a local kid kicked his football onto my drive, then when retrieving it he touches the garage door handle... well, for that I think it is my fault! No kid is going to accidentally wander into my locked house in the dead of the night and try to take my car keys though. But this is all hypothetical so... meh.
Believe it or not, I was going to quote exactly the same scenario as you earlier on, but my post went a bit off track so didn't bother! :grin: It's a really touchy subject all this "what is reasonable protection?" malarky!