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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: jamie16v on 09 June 2013, 23:52
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everyone seems to be going down the WMI/welly cooler route, which is fair enough, but it does cost a bit of money..
i might upgrade my fmic and pipework but was thinking instead of buying a water meth kit, get my car tuned up without it and be happy with what it makes without. i will have upgraded injectors and maf housing, got them waiting to drop in. so, was thinking that after the set up is mapped in, go for a nitrous oxide set up.. i think my setup without N2O should easily make roughly 270bhp and with a squirt of nos, quite a bit more, got to be careful not to smash my rods in the mean time so will go for a small nozzle to start and perhaps buy a spare engine to build afterwards.
what are your opinions with that idea?.
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Think you would be able to put the power down?
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i wouldn`t be pulling off with nitrous oxide engaged really..lol
so yeah, once its up to speed and in WOT no problems.. :smiley:
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I think if you got a decent progressive kit it should be ok
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why progressive?
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isnt there a way of seeping oxide into the mix at a certain rev range? im sure i saw that somewhere on a supra before unless i was having one of them petrol head visions from the piston god :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
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why progressive?
It's a bit more gentle on your engine!
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but i want break neck acceleration :cry:
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but i want break neck acceleration :cry:
in a mk4 :undecided:
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with a quattro conversion maybe :laugh:
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with a quattro conversion maybe :laugh:
like mine :tongue:
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with a quattro conversion maybe :laugh:
like mine :tongue:
:drool:
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whats been done to your golf altogether then barry?.. got any pics/advice on the 4x4 tranny conversion?.
i know the boot floor panel needs changing..
also on the topic of nitrous, if rods were upgraded then progressive shouldnt really be needed i would assume.
if i were to fit before the rods were fitted i would only fit something like 30-50bhp jets to keep it under the 300 bhp margin.
long term plans are to build an engine that can handle it, or give up the cars altogether and buy a shopping wagon.
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Fit both :evil:
WMI would keep it nice and cool hole the bod would give you a load of power :evil:
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whats been done to your golf altogether then barry?.. got any pics/advice on the 4x4 tranny conversion?.
i know the boot floor panel needs changing..
also on the topic of nitrous, if rods were upgraded then progressive shouldnt really be needed i would assume.
if i were to fit before the rods were fitted i would only fit something like 30-50bhp jets to keep it under the 300 bhp margin.
long term plans are to build an engine that can handle it, or give up the cars altogether and buy a shopping wagon.
Won't it be quicker and cheaper dropping a 18T into a 4mo?
I also want to give nitro a go! :evil:
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Fit both :evil:
WMI would keep it nice and cool hole the bod would give you a load of power :evil:
the nitrogen element of nitrous oxide acts as a cooler once the particles split :wink:
Won't it be quicker and cheaper dropping a 18T into a 4mo?
I also want to give nitro a go! :evil:
how much would it cost to buy a 4mo, plus all the work to swap all the mods over, i think it`d be easier to get the running gear, exhaust and boot panel from a 4mo.. i could be wrong. but finding a decent 4mo for the right price isn`t going to be easy.. i`m tuning in poverty don`t forget :laugh:
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Yeah but burning the nitrous get very hot and can melt things haha
I know people use it but personally I wouldn't use it u less I was willing to cause damage or I was using meth for cooling :undecided:
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Yeah but burning the nitrous get very hot and can melt things haha
I know people use it but personally I wouldn't use it u less I was willing to cause damage or I was using meth for cooling :undecided:
i dont mind it breaks, plus if you get the fueling right its not so bad.. i`m not looking for massive gains from it. just looking for an alternative to getting to the 300bhp barrier.
WMI might come later on or before, i`m currently looking to upgrade the hotside intercooler pipework before any of those plans come into place. :lipsrsealed:
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Yeah I guess as you have said just using it for the small push then it shouldn't be a problem but if its going to be used with anger I would be carful :wink:
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i will be looking for a massive push if i get a decent spec engine built :wink:
looking to build one with some decent rods, valve springs, and maybe pistons.. maybe take the rev limiter higher too then.. :whistle: :grin:
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whats been done to your golf altogether then barry?.. got any pics/advice on the 4x4 tranny conversion?.
i know the boot floor panel needs changing..
also on the topic of nitrous, if rods were upgraded then progressive shouldnt really be needed i would assume.
if i were to fit before the rods were fitted i would only fit something like 30-50bhp jets to keep it under the 300 bhp margin.
long term plans are to build an engine that can handle it, or give up the cars altogether and buy a shopping wagon.
list of stuff thats been done to my car :grin:
TT 225 9.0:1 Compression piston's
Audi TT225 Manifold
Audi TT225 K04 Turbo, brackets and oil feed pipes
Audi TT225 Fuel Pump
Audi TT225 Injectors
Fly by wire Inlet Plenum (Modified for throttle cable)
4 Bar Fuel Pressure regulator
Helix Organic Clutch
New Big End & Main Bearings
New Oil Pump
New Head Gasket
New Cam Belt Kit
New Metal Bade Water Pump
Bailey Recirculating Dump Valve
Pipercross TT225 Air Filter
VR6 MAF Housing
SFS Silicone Turbo Intake Pipe
Modifications done when converted to four wheel drive:
Boot floor out of 4 motion golf
Rear Subframe, diff and suspension from R32
Audi TT225 6 Speed Gearbox and Transfer box
Audi TT225 Flywheel and ECS Tuning Kevlar Stage 3 Clutch - good for 400whp
Golf 4 motion Propshaft and front drive shafts
4 Motion Controller made by Dutch Build
Customs Stainless Exhaust
KW Variant 3 Audi S3 Coilover Kit (fully height, bump and rebound adjustable)
Vibra Technics Road engine Mounts
Custom Front Mount Intercooler
Custom Hard 2.5" Intercooler Piping painted black
Forge Intake pipe with Dump Valve Relocator
Goodridge Braided Brake Hoses
Forge Rear Camber Rod's
Chassis Modifications:
19" R32 Style Alloy Wheels
235/35/19 hankook v12 evo's
Porsche 996 turbo front callipers
356 x 32 front discs 308x22mm ECS big discs kit for rear
25th Anniversary rear callipers
Body Modifications:
Genuine R32 Rear Spoiler
Genuine R32 Side Skirt's
R7A Design's Rear Valance originally supplied with twin exit Milltek - has been modified to have twin round pipes
One off front bumper, modified to use original grille, and late type plastic mesh
Full re-spray in Sprint Blue
Interior Modifications:
Brand New 4wd boot trims
HKS 60mm Blue Gauges
Pioneer AVH-P4000DVD Headunit with I-pod cable and Bluetooth hands free
VW Racing 6 speed gear knob
Alpine MRV- F400 running standard door speakers
Alpine MRV - T1000 running sub
the car has now covered 85k miles since new and the engine has covered 40k since being built, the car can either run fwd or 4wd which is fully adjustable via a control in the glove box upto a 50/50 split so doesn't just sit there spinning alot more fun than a r32 with more power and less weight!
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=204540.0
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May I ask what the deal with the dbw inlet plenum is??
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May I ask what the deal with the dbw inlet plenum is??
i just bought the car as is mate not sure about it :wink:
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list of stuff thats been done to my car :grin:
TT 225 9.0:1 Compression piston's
Audi TT225 Manifold
Audi TT225 K04 Turbo, brackets and oil feed pipes
Audi TT225 Fuel Pump
Audi TT225 Injectors
Fly by wire Inlet Plenum (Modified for throttle cable)
4 Bar Fuel Pressure regulator
Helix Organic Clutch
New Big End & Main Bearings
New Oil Pump
New Head Gasket
New Cam Belt Kit
New Metal Bade Water Pump
Bailey Recirculating Dump Valve
Pipercross TT225 Air Filter
VR6 MAF Housing
SFS Silicone Turbo Intake Pipe
Modifications done when converted to four wheel drive:
Boot floor out of 4 motion golf
Rear Subframe, diff and suspension from R32
Audi TT225 6 Speed Gearbox and Transfer box
Audi TT225 Flywheel and ECS Tuning Kevlar Stage 3 Clutch - good for 400whp
Golf 4 motion Propshaft and front drive shafts
4 Motion Controller made by Dutch Build
Customs Stainless Exhaust
KW Variant 3 Audi S3 Coilover Kit (fully height, bump and rebound adjustable)
Vibra Technics Road engine Mounts
Custom Front Mount Intercooler
Custom Hard 2.5" Intercooler Piping painted black
Forge Intake pipe with Dump Valve Relocator
Goodridge Braided Brake Hoses
Forge Rear Camber Rod's
Chassis Modifications:
19" R32 Style Alloy Wheels
235/35/19 hankook v12 evo's
Porsche 996 turbo front callipers
356 x 32 front discs 308x22mm ECS big discs kit for rear
25th Anniversary rear callipers
Body Modifications:
Genuine R32 Rear Spoiler
Genuine R32 Side Skirt's
R7A Design's Rear Valance originally supplied with twin exit Milltek - has been modified to have twin round pipes
One off front bumper, modified to use original grille, and late type plastic mesh
Full re-spray in Sprint Blue
Interior Modifications:
Brand New 4wd boot trims
HKS 60mm Blue Gauges
Pioneer AVH-P4000DVD Headunit with I-pod cable and Bluetooth hands free
VW Racing 6 speed gear knob
Alpine MRV- F400 running standard door speakers
Alpine MRV - T1000 running sub
the car has now covered 85k miles since new and the engine has covered 40k since being built, the car can either run fwd or 4wd which is fully adjustable via a control in the glove box upto a 50/50 split so doesn't just sit there spinning alot more fun than a r32 with more power and less weight!
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=204540.0
fook me sideways, thats extensive.. :shocked:May I ask what the deal with the dbw inlet plenum is??
i just bought the car as is mate not sure about it :wink:
ah :grin:
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you did ask jamie :grin: :grin:
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I see
Was about to say god knows why they went from large port to small port :shocked: :laugh:
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you did ask jamie :grin: :grin:
so didnt you do the 4mo conversion?
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you did ask jamie :grin: :grin:
so didnt you do the 4mo conversion?
nope the bodyshop who owned the car done that plenty of picts in the link :smiley:
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aha, didnt see the link :wink: cheers!
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aha, didnt see the link :wink: cheers!
be alot less work to drop the 1.8t in the 4mo im sure as cutting rear floor out an finding an r32 floor is not cheap or easy to do :smiley:
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aha, didnt see the link :wink: cheers!
be alot less work to drop the 1.8t in the 4mo im sure as cutting rear floor out an finding an r32 floor is not cheap or easy to do :smiley:
looking at it i agree, i though it would have only been the spare wheel well that`d need removing, not half the rear end :shocked: i`ll just stick with FWD i think..lol
i`m sure nick at r-tech did a 4mo conversion and only drilled the spare wheel well out (from memory) but i can`t find the link :angry: ..
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aha, didnt see the link :wink: cheers!
be alot less work to drop the 1.8t in the 4mo im sure as cutting rear floor out an finding an r32 floor is not cheap or easy to do :smiley:
looking at it i agree, i though it would have only been the spare wheel well that`d need removing, not half the rear end :shocked: i`ll just stick with FWD i think..lol
i`m sure nick at r-tech did a 4mo conversion and only drilled the spare wheel well out (from memory) but i can`t find the link :angry: ..
:grin: he was all over my car like a kid in a sweet shop :laugh: just hope the new turbo i send him sorts it out
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list of stuff thats been done to my car :grin:
TT 225 9.0:1 Compression piston's
Audi TT225 Manifold
Audi TT225 K04 Turbo, brackets and oil feed pipes
Audi TT225 Fuel Pump
Audi TT225 Injectors
Fly by wire Inlet Plenum (Modified for throttle cable)
4 Bar Fuel Pressure regulator
Helix Organic Clutch
New Big End & Main Bearings
New Oil Pump
New Head Gasket
New Cam Belt Kit
New Metal Bade Water Pump
Bailey Recirculating Dump Valve
Pipercross TT225 Air Filter
VR6 MAF Housing
SFS Silicone Turbo Intake Pipe
Modifications done when converted to four wheel drive:
Boot floor out of 4 motion golf
Rear Subframe, diff and suspension from R32
Audi TT225 6 Speed Gearbox and Transfer box
Audi TT225 Flywheel and ECS Tuning Kevlar Stage 3 Clutch - good for 400whp
Golf 4 motion Propshaft and front drive shafts
4 Motion Controller made by Dutch Build
Customs Stainless Exhaust
KW Variant 3 Audi S3 Coilover Kit (fully height, bump and rebound adjustable)
Vibra Technics Road engine Mounts
Custom Front Mount Intercooler
Custom Hard 2.5" Intercooler Piping painted black
Forge Intake pipe with Dump Valve Relocator
Goodridge Braided Brake Hoses
Forge Rear Camber Rod's
Chassis Modifications:
19" R32 Style Alloy Wheels
235/35/19 hankook v12 evo's
Porsche 996 turbo front callipers
356 x 32 front discs 308x22mm ECS big discs kit for rear
25th Anniversary rear callipers
Body Modifications:
Genuine R32 Rear Spoiler
Genuine R32 Side Skirt's
R7A Design's Rear Valance originally supplied with twin exit Milltek - has been modified to have twin round pipes
One off front bumper, modified to use original grille, and late type plastic mesh
Full re-spray in Sprint Blue
Interior Modifications:
Brand New 4wd boot trims
HKS 60mm Blue Gauges
Pioneer AVH-P4000DVD Headunit with I-pod cable and Bluetooth hands free
VW Racing 6 speed gear knob
Alpine MRV- F400 running standard door speakers
Alpine MRV - T1000 running sub
the car has now covered 85k miles since new and the engine has covered 40k since being built, the car can either run fwd or 4wd which is fully adjustable via a control in the glove box upto a 50/50 split so doesn't just sit there spinning alot more fun than a r32 with more power and less weight!
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=204540.0
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fookin hell thats quite a list you kept under wraps mate :cool:,didnt realise it had been converted aswell schweeeet
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i just bought the car mate :laugh: cant claim to have done any of the work except new exhaust an turbo being fitted :smiley: an i did drop a hint after you made a comment on the tt that another quattro might be coming soon
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My mate has a Ibiza cupra 1.8T running nitrous. Its Remapped,filter,exhaust, FMIC, 30 shot nitrous jet, progressive timer & nitrous bottle warmer. It is a very quick car on acceleration for whats been done & has silly fast turbo spool.
A 300bhp 1.8T running nitrous will be immense :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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anyone got a link to R-tech`s 4mo converion.. i have looked.. :tongue:
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anyone got a link to R-tech`s 4mo converion.. i have looked.. :tongue:
there is a video of a black 1 they had on youtube mate :wink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL6l7ayv2ok
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yeah, im sure they had a thread on here with pictures of the spare wheel well take out though :undecided: ..
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yeah, im sure they had a thread on here with pictures of the spare wheel well take out though :undecided: ..
sure it would be less trouble to just buy this 4mo an drop the 1.8t in it :smiley:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/vw-26-4-motion/1021540252
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it needs too much too soon and i aint got £800..lol
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it needs too much too soon and i aint got £800..lol
plenty of them about a mate just broke 1 an binned the shell as i didnt need it anymore :sad:
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Man you can get them cheap as now ,maybe mine wasnt such a good buy after all lol
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what you just broke a 4mo barrym ?
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to be honest, if i could do it by just replacing the wheel well, i would rather do it that way. more fun and experience, and i think i could get all the bits for less than buying a whole car.
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what you just broke a 4mo barrym ?
a mate broke this 1 :smiley:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/golf-28-v6-4-motion-low-miles-must-see/1019106690
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looks alright,oh and so do the wheels lol
anyway sorry jamie wont clog your thread anymore honest haha
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looks alright,oh and so do the wheels lol
anyway sorry jamie wont clog your thread anymore honest haha
:huh: :wink: thanks,
back to my question, anyone remember nicks 4mo conversion and know where i can find a link to the thread?
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Didn't it belong to a lad called dan??
I believe he got a 280z and started a thread in the non vag section.
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im sure the thread was started by nick though, i remember there was a pick of him under the car on a dolly, the pic was taken through the boot of the car with the floor removed.. that`s as much as i remember..lol
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im sure the thread was started by nick though, i remember there was a pick of him under the car on a dolly, the pic was taken through the boot of the car with the floor removed.. that`s as much as i remember..lol
think this is the car you mean mate :smiley:
http://www.r32oc.com/topic/30148-dans-18t-4motion/
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it might be the car im not sure, it`s not the thread though... there was some proper piston and head/valve meltation in that thread.. ouch :shocked:
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he had 1 on here too :smiley:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=148220.0
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yeah, it`s still not the thread i`m looking for though. :undecided:
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well, the pic i was thinking of is in this thread.. about half way down..
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159756.msg2006602#msg2006602
maybe i am mistaken, he mentions its for his straght though :undecided:
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well, the pic i was thinking of is in this thread.. about half way down..
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159756.msg2006602#msg2006602
maybe i am mistaken, he mentions its for his straght though :undecided:
didnt think it would be that simple just cutting the spare wheel bit out but i may be wrong but looking at some of the picts on the memory stick i got with mine it looks alot of work :smiley:
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didnt think it would be that simple just cutting the spare wheel bit out but i may be wrong but looking at some of the picts on the memory stick i got with mine it looks alot of work :smiley:
i dont mean just cut out the circular bit, i mean drill all the spot welds out from just the boot floor section. i had a look in my boot and all the spot welds are accessable from the boot for just that panel.
i thought the rear diff mounted on that panel hence the shallower well. suspension mounting points i assume are the same..