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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: t-dub1902 on 02 June 2013, 23:32
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Hi guys
So thinking about going for one but just a little confussed
I see some people saying 150bhp and some 180bhp
Can someone clesr this up for me please?
Much appreciated
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150bhp standard.
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as stated 150bhp... :wink: :smiley:
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they are talking about the mk4 engines me thinks
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apparently the engine is incredibly chippable. It comes standard 150 bhp but with a simple chip it will gain 30bhp. when looking at mk3's lots were advertised with 180bhp and when I enquired it was because it they had been chipped.
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Standard ~148 to 152 bhp
Standard engine & exhaust system but chipped ~160 bhp
Standard engine with a stainless exhaust system ~166bhp
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=99874.700
^ Khare's Mk3 16v ranges from 158 to 165 bhp depending on the day.
You will not see 180bhp from just a chip (unless on a very optimistic dyno)
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they are talking about the mk4 engines me thinks
*SLAP* No. ABF is 2.0 16V motor from Golf3
It comes standard 150 bhp but with a simple chip it will gain 30bhp. when looking at mk3's lots were advertised with 180bhp and when I enquired it was because it they had been chipped.
Barryboy Horse Power maybe.
The engine has potential, but you're not going to let that out with a chip. You *might* see a genuine 160bhp frigging about with the mapping, but you need to get the gases away from it to start getting some proper benefit. Danny's ABF dynoed at around 170bhp with a four-branch manifold on the back of it.
180bhp would need a cam, 4-branch manifold and a custom map.
200bhp will need head work, ITBs and ARP bolts on the bottom end to keep it together, as well as a different crank sensor as the one in the engine can disintegrate once you start lifting the rev-limiter.
Anyone quoting 180bhp from a chip is speaking sh*t.
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Ah cheers boys so if i get a standard one and chip it should be fairly quick!!
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Oh yeah sorry for the confusion. I didn't believe the the gains it's just that's how some lovely Internet folk advertise the engine at 180bhp
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Oh yeah sorry for the confusion. I didn't believe the the gains it's just that's how some lovely Internet folk advertise the engine at 180bhp
The same people that believe the internet myth that the ABF was detuned so as to not harm sales of the VR6 no doubt.
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A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.
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I'd say that was a tad optimistic especially on standard ecu map
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they are talking about the mk4 engines me thinks
*SLAP* No. ABF is 2.0 16V motor from Golf3
It comes standard 150 bhp but with a simple chip it will gain 30bhp. when looking at mk3's lots were advertised with 180bhp and when I enquired it was because it they had been chipped.
Barryboy Horse Power maybe.
The engine has potential, but you're not going to let that out with a chip. You *might* see a genuine 160bhp frigging about with the mapping, but you need to get the gases away from it to start getting some proper benefit. Danny's ABF dynoed at around 170bhp with a four-branch manifold on the back of it.
180bhp would need a cam, 4-branch manifold and a custom map.
200bhp will need head work, ITBs and ARP bolts on the bottom end to keep it together, as well as a different crank sensor as the one in the engine can disintegrate once you start lifting the rev-limiter.
Anyone quoting 180bhp from a chip is speaking sh*t.
Quite aware the where the ABF comes from.
Hi guys
So thinking about going for one but just a little confussed
I see some people saying 150bhp and some 180bhp
Can someone clesr this up for me please?
Much appreciated
The "people" he was referencing are likely getting confused with the Mk4 engines as they have by coincidence 150 and 180 bhp, very much the same kind of folk who think a chip adds 30bhp.
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apparently the engine is incredibly chippable. It comes standard 150 bhp but with a simple chip it will gain 30bhp. when looking at mk3's lots were advertised with 180bhp and when I enquired it was because it they had been chipped.
haha no way 30bhp. Maybe 6 lol
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A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.
Consistent with Danny and my experiences.
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A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.
Missing one important detail :smiley:
Where was it tested at? (brand of dyno would help too!)
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A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.
Missing one important detail :smiley:
Where was it tested at? (brand of dyno would help too!)
Conditions?
Also you can't compare engines unless they are tested on the same day, dyno and similar conditions.
And very much doubt it was a DD.
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ignore the estimated flywheel power and go off recorded wheel power, you can compare motors with more certanty on diffrent dyno's
there isn't really any excuse for much error in wheel bhp.
at work we used to send an electric car to a few rolling roads dyno printouts v's datalogs were sometimes very intresting it hads to be said